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Title: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on December 09, 2021, 09:41:21 AM
                     Thompson

Senior. Mularkey. Hannigan  Hampson

             Moult.  Pringle

     Mooney.   Kosylo. Colclough

                       Leitch-Smith

Only real decisions are who plays next to Moult and who leads the line.
Alty 2-1 Bromley (Mooney, Moult)
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: CRT Butty on December 09, 2021, 11:09:57 AM
I want a clean sheet. Come on, we can do that.

One nil Alty win.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on December 09, 2021, 01:46:52 PM
I want a clean sheet. Come on, we can do that.

One nil Alty win.
I'd be happy with a slightly  soiled sheet and 5-1.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on December 09, 2021, 09:53:29 PM
Statement now on the club site. I'd already decided not to go on Saturday, but if metal detector body searches by our friendly new stewards are to become the norm, then I'll be giving up attending games. It's not my idea of a match day experience, and I may watch my games further down the pyramid in future.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Leeds Leeds Alty on December 09, 2021, 11:00:48 PM
If we are using metal detectors  - wands - then surely this is because TBC have told us we have to - don't imagine we are doing it for fun.  What should we do - tell Trafford where to stick them and see the ground closed down? Surely boycotting the club just loses us support and revenue and hurts the club even more when we have lost a fortune the last few weeks anyway
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: AltyRobin on December 09, 2021, 11:32:34 PM
All seems very heavy handed. Reports from the Southend game suggest the stewards don’t deserve any respect if they are manhandling fans

Will all grounds in Trafford have metal detectors e.g Trafford FC for 200 fans or are TBC just singling us out

Very patronising statement too. I’m not 5 so don’t need to be told not to stand in the road
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Salfordalty on December 10, 2021, 08:20:38 AM
Statement now on the club site. I'd already decided not to go on Saturday, but if metal detector body searches by our friendly new stewards are to become the norm, then I'll be giving up attending games. It's not my idea of a match day experience, and I may watch my games further down the pyramid in future.

Don't be so daft. Body searches and bag searches are common at most grounds at this level and above these days. Way the world is. You don't stop supporting your club because of it.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on December 10, 2021, 08:27:40 AM
All seems very heavy handed. Reports from the Southend game suggest the stewards don’t deserve any respect if they are manhandling fans

Will all grounds in Trafford have metal detectors e.g Trafford FC for 200 fans or are TBC just singling us out

Very patronising statement too. I’m not 5 so don’t need to be told not to stand in the road

Judging by the fact that our supporters do often stand in the road - I don't see any issue in them having to ask us not to.

Seriously, it's hardly tyranny is it?! - it's to keep us all safe and prove we can open up again fully.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: MadFrankie on December 10, 2021, 09:18:39 AM
Very patronising statement too. I’m not 5 so don’t need to be told not to stand in the road
So let's assume you turn up at your appointed turnstile tomorrow and there's a queue of 50 people snaking out into Golf Road (that's the only place where people queue in the road). What's your solution?
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on December 10, 2021, 09:45:37 AM
When Alty are playing away I sometimes go to watch a Div 2 club and have been searched with and without a wand on several occasions. It comes with the territory. It doesn't happen every time but the possibility is there.

Regarding the standing in the road this is likely to become a headache. The entry by Dawn's cafe is not ideal. Once the search procedures are introduced it will take longer to get through the turnstiles leading to bigger queues.  The only way to avoid that is to have more turnstiles. Fans who go to away matches will recognise that most of the ex league grounds we go to do have many more turnstiles than us.

One way forward would be to put another entry in the Pop side / Chequers corner. People would then be able to queue in safety to get in to the Pop side and it would allow people to get in to the Golf Road End from both ends of that stand.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: AltyRobin on December 10, 2021, 09:46:30 AM
Very patronising statement too. I’m not 5 so don’t need to be told not to stand in the road
So let's assume you turn up at your appointed turnstile tomorrow and there's a queue of 50 people snaking out into Golf Road (that's the only place where people queue in the road). What's your solution?

No solution needed. I’m in the main stand
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on December 10, 2021, 11:27:16 AM
Statement now on the club site. I'd already decided not to go on Saturday, but if metal detector body searches by our friendly new stewards are to become the norm, then I'll be giving up attending games. It's not my idea of a match day experience, and I may watch my games further down the pyramid in future.

Don't be so daft. Body searches and bag searches are common at most grounds at this level and above these days. Way the world is. You don't stop supporting your club because of it.

Daft ? I can support my team in many ways that don't necessarily involve attending matches. I was perfectly happy with live streaming last season (I'd be prepared to pay a premium if it were available again) and can follow matches on Radio Robins. Goal highlights are generally available on YouTube. I can wait for them. I'm 74 with a dodgy back, but don't generally like sitting down at games. I'd like to just get in without any hassle and stand in my usual spot on the Popular Side - if I can't, then some enjoyment has been taken away.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on December 10, 2021, 11:35:00 AM
Isn't that mitigated by the fact that we're progressing to a level where this is required and we're seeing the best Alty side in almost a generation?
I know that clinches it for us anyway.

PS. I'm only three years behind you and with a bad back, diabetes and two dodgy hips! 😉 😂😂
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on December 10, 2021, 12:25:31 PM
Draconian it might be but it is what it is. Lots of stuff going on that's a pain in the arse just got to suck it up.

Attendance capped at 2500
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on December 10, 2021, 01:18:35 PM
2500 is plenty for the Bromley game.
If we jump through the hoops and there are no problems then we can expect 4000+ for the christmas and new year matches and the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Is this it? on December 10, 2021, 01:25:21 PM
Statement now on the club site. I'd already decided not to go on Saturday, but if metal detector body searches by our friendly new stewards are to become the norm, then I'll be giving up attending games. It's not my idea of a match day experience, and I may watch my games further down the pyramid in future.

I'm not sure that I'd go elsewhere to watch my football, but the stewarding at the last game was very poorly handled and ruined the game for me and, I think, for others that were standing near to me.  It's the third time this season that I've come away feeling like I'd have been better not attending.  If that experience becomes routine then I probably won't renew my ST next year.

Re. wands/metals detectors, I don't agree that they are necessary; if this isn't a TBC directive then where is the evidence to support their introduction?  Measures such as this are rarely reversed.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on December 10, 2021, 01:27:42 PM
Some of the best problems I've ever seen complained about.

If we want a league standard team we need a league standard club.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on December 10, 2021, 01:45:10 PM
Some of the best problems I've ever seen complained about.

If we want a league standard team we need a league standard club.

^^^^ Exactly!
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Is this it? on December 10, 2021, 01:45:25 PM
Some of the best problems I've ever seen complained about.

If we want a league standard team we need a league standard club.

Surely you're not suggesting having metal detectors is the benchmark for being a 'league standard club'.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on December 10, 2021, 02:31:27 PM
I took him to mean that the higher you go in the pyramid, the more stuff like this you have to accept. (could be wrong though I suppose?)
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Is this it? on December 10, 2021, 02:47:44 PM
I took him to mean that the higher you go in the pyramid, the more stuff like this you have to accept. (could be wrong though I suppose?)

I accept there will be more hoops to jump through should we progress up the league....so be it.  However, I don't think that wands are necessary currently.  On their own, they may not a big deal, in the case of the Bromley game, however, their use was the first of a number of actions that marred the visit to ML.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Altyrocket on December 10, 2021, 03:26:39 PM
From the club statement......(My Bold)

On entry to The J. Davidson Stadium, please expect to be searched by a member of the stewarding team, who will use a handheld metal detector. With the heightened terror threat, this is now standard procedure.  We suggest you avoid bringing any bags into the stadium, but if you choose to do so, expect to have it searched.

Poses the question who's standard procedure ? Club initiated or outside requirement.

Personally this does have an impact on me attending the ground.   
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Silent but Ledley on December 10, 2021, 04:24:54 PM
Me thinks I will give tomorrow a miss! SBL
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on December 10, 2021, 05:47:40 PM
I'd be more worried about it being cold and absolutely pissing it down all game, rather than having a wand generally waved in my direction.

Tomorrow will be one hell of a test for the pitch after the week of weather we've had / likely ongoing conditions through the game.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Bath Alty on December 10, 2021, 05:57:39 PM
This season I have been to Yeovil, Eastleigh, Woking and Wealdstone. No searches on entry at any of those. Whatever else it may or may not be it is not standard practice at this level
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on December 10, 2021, 07:14:01 PM
A couple of things are brought to mind by comments on this thread.
In no particular order
When I am trying to drive out of Golf Road post match I am horrified, petrified and disgusted even by people not only just setting sail across the road with no consideration of the vehicular traffic but make Abusive signs and comments toward drivers who have the temerity to not stop immediately.
Point 2 is that, given the revised regulations relating to the perimeter fence, there are going to be some disenchanted youngsters at the game. If you are the parent or guardian of one of these children please (and I know it's not going to be easy or pleasant) try to remain as compliant with the requests of the Stewards as possible.  Any significant issues tomorrow may adversely affect chances of a reasonable capacity over Christmas/New Year

Point 3
When I have been to both Old Trafford grounds, The Etihad and the Academy Stadium I have been searched, including being 'wanded' It took seconds and caused me no issues. I was similarly checked at the Southend game by a very polite steward who fully explained the process to me and those around me
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on December 10, 2021, 07:27:23 PM
What happens when Steve from Sale sets the metal detectors off?
Does he whip his pants down and show them his scar?
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on December 10, 2021, 08:06:56 PM
The guy next to me going into the Southend game had a femoral nail.
Medical metalwork like that and Steve from Sale's hip prosthesis don't register fortunately
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on December 10, 2021, 09:04:35 PM
What happens when Steve from Sale sets the metal detectors off?
Does he whip his pants down and show them his scar?
That’s more likely to put me off attending.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: JD on December 10, 2021, 10:20:45 PM
If I were able to get to home games I would be quite pi$$ed off with these new protocols, BUT, especially considering the actions of TMBC, I would think of the club and the need to get ourselves able to take in the biggest crowds possible.
With AFC being such a friendly and welcoming club, it goes totally against the grain.

Now, these wands; I wonder if they are like the one my ex used to have!
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Steve from Sale on December 10, 2021, 10:35:06 PM
There must be a few jokes there but I'm too knackered to think of any. See you at the game tomorrow.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on December 10, 2021, 10:36:38 PM
A couple of things are brought to mind by comments on this thread.
In no particular order
When I am trying to drive out of Golf Road post match I am horrified, petrified and disgusted even by people not only just setting sail across the road with no consideration of the vehicular traffic but make Abusive signs and comments toward drivers who have the temerity to not stop immediately.
Point 2 is that, given the revised regulations relating to the perimeter fence, there are going to be some disenchanted youngsters at the game. If you are the parent or guardian of one of these children please (and I know it's not going to be easy or pleasant) try to remain as compliant with the requests of the Stewards as possible.  Any significant issues tomorrow may adversely affect chances of a reasonable capacity over Christmas/New Year

Point 3
When I have been to both Old Trafford grounds, The Etihad and the Academy Stadium I have been searched, including being 'wanded' It took seconds and caused me no issues. I was similarly checked at the Southend game by a very polite steward who fully explained the process to me and those around me

Better turnstile security means hopefully nothing criminal happens, and that's a good thing ATS
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on December 10, 2021, 10:38:14 PM
If I were able to get to home games I would be quite pi$$ed off with these new protocols, BUT, especially considering the actions of TMBC, I would think of the club and the need to get ourselves able to take in the biggest crowds possible.
With AFC being such a friendly and welcoming club, it goes totally against the grain.

Now, these wands; I wonder if they are like the one my ex used to have!

That's why I suggested to Nigel, and the club, we have club ambassador as the first touch point - our stewards that are actually fans.

You usually have a friendly check-in at an airport before the hard fave security.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: JD on December 10, 2021, 10:41:15 PM
If I were able to get to home games I would be quite pi$$ed off with these new protocols, BUT, especially considering the actions of TMBC, I would think of the club and the need to get ourselves able to take in the biggest crowds possible.
With AFC being such a friendly and welcoming club, it goes totally against the grain.

Now, these wands; I wonder if they are like the one my ex used to have!

That's why I suggested to Nigel, and the club, we have club ambassador as the first touch point - our stewards that are actually fans.

You usually have a friendly check-in at an airport before the hard fave security.

Good idea well made!
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Is this it? on December 11, 2021, 12:11:21 AM
A couple of things are brought to mind by comments on this thread.
In no particular order
When I am trying to drive out of Golf Road post match I am horrified, petrified and disgusted even by people not only just setting sail across the road with no consideration of the vehicular traffic but make Abusive signs and comments toward drivers who have the temerity to not stop immediately.
Point 2 is that, given the revised regulations relating to the perimeter fence, there are going to be some disenchanted youngsters at the game. If you are the parent or guardian of one of these children please (and I know it's not going to be easy or pleasant) try to remain as compliant with the requests of the Stewards as possible.  Any significant issues tomorrow may adversely affect chances of a reasonable capacity over Christmas/New Year

Point 3
When I have been to both Old Trafford grounds, The Etihad and the Academy Stadium I have been searched, including being 'wanded' It took seconds and caused me no issues. I was similarly checked at the Southend game by a very polite steward who fully explained the process to me and those around me

Better turnstile security means hopefully nothing criminal happens, and that's a good thing ATS

It's Moss Lane FFS, not OT or the Etihad.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Is this it? on December 11, 2021, 12:30:12 AM
Let's hope the discussion on here after 3:00pm tomorrow is focussed on the football, rather than on complaints from fans not used to being micro-managed by over zealous stewards.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on December 11, 2021, 07:37:00 AM
You can walk in somewhere and be wanded without even noticing. Considering lower league football
Grounds could easily be a soft target it’s nether here nor there if it helps
Public safety. . You aren’t stopped and frisked they run their arm Up and down in about three seconds. It’s not Darth Vader attacking you with a light sabre. We just need to play ball with these idiots from Trafford until it settles down which it will, or until people vote a council in thats more business focused and not a bunch of busy f**kers. Like we had in the good old days
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 11, 2021, 08:39:09 AM
Its no hardship being search or scanned,so why all the fuss?,if it makes it that we comply with the councils rules then so be it.I was search at both Torquay and Weymouth this season and  i remember being searched at Bristol Rovers,so its not new.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on December 11, 2021, 09:22:20 AM
We were searched at Weymouth fc Chesterfield fc  Winanton races, Ludlow races, Wentworth golf club. It’s just security checks, it’s just the way things are nowadays, if you want to blame anybody how about the crazy bastards that sadly want to cause harm and misery.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Darren on December 11, 2021, 04:42:51 PM
If you don't want to be searched what do you have to hide ? Tins of Alcohol etc
Most places now have search procedures in place especially Manchester. Is everyone forgetting there
was a bomb attack 4 years ago.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on December 11, 2021, 05:49:44 PM
Again very polite and unobtrusive "wanding' today other than inadvertently poking me in the crown jewels with it.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on December 11, 2021, 05:58:13 PM
We missed enough chances to win three games today which is something we need to address urgently.

We also witnessed one of the worst refereeing performance for many a moon if only in terms of consistency or rather lack of it. How we collected, I believe 5 cautions and them none escapes me
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on December 11, 2021, 06:03:04 PM
The referee was the worst I've seen in years and years - easily the worst and really should not be allowed to officiate at any level of the game ever again.
However, we didn't lose the game today because of him. We lost because we don't have a single decent number 9 in the squad. It's getting bloody tedious now.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on December 11, 2021, 06:37:29 PM
While the ref was shocking he's not the reason why we lost.

First half we just didn't turn up again fully deserved to be behind. This needs sorting out because chasing games is sh*t.

Second half was much improved (again) how we've scored 3 or 4 is down to not having a goal scoring striker. The Hampson miss will never be explained.

Porters' best game I've seen

Pitch was excellent
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Is this it? on December 11, 2021, 07:01:03 PM
Weird game.  They started far, far stronger than us and after 10 minutes it looked as though the afternoon was going to be a torrid affair.  By contrast, we dominated the second half and on another day, and with a proven goalscorer, we could have scored 5 or more. The atmosphere in the first half was awful......really awful.

A couple of things re. stewarding.  In contrast to what ATS said, the guy who 'wanded' me on entry to GR was not polite, either to me, or to the chap who went in front of me.  I don't expect to be spoken to so abruptly in my professional life, and so I certainly won't accept it when I have paid to enjoy a social event.

The micro-managing going on outside and in the ground currently is not necessary.  I was in the town centre in the hour or so before the match and it was packed, yet there was open access to the shops, market, tram etc. and not a security guard insight.  Yet some on here seem to think that we are a prime target - seriously?  Last word on this, if the Club has paid steward no. 846 to check wristbands in the GR, then we're giving money away - the only 'work' he did was to pick on the 5 or 6 young chaps standing in front of me and my pal, and having checked one of their wristbands, make them move to another part of the ground.  Whether the wristband was the correct one for the GR or not, it was pathetic watching this being played out.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Is this it? on December 11, 2021, 07:05:20 PM
Again very polite and unobtrusive "wanding' today other than inadvertently poking me in the crown jewels with it.

He touching your 'old fella' with his wand?  Am I reading this correctly?
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on December 11, 2021, 07:14:19 PM
I touched the pitch-side fence at full time as I was applauding the efforts of the players.

That's apparently not allowed.

Utterly pointless.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on December 11, 2021, 07:14:58 PM
I've critisised Porter in the past. He had a decent game today. No complaints.

My experience of the Stewards was good. Their wand found money I didn'y know I had.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Nom de plume on December 11, 2021, 07:39:54 PM
Can we please stop using the practice nets at the side of the real nets before the match starts?

Marcus Dinanga thinks they’re the real ones and is still aiming for them once the match starts.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: CRT Butty on December 11, 2021, 07:46:30 PM
1. Off the pitch was weird. Silly security but meh it was quick, not particularly polite individuals but I don't want to make friends with them.

2. On the pitch. Fuming about how poor we were first half, error strewn defending, gave away free kicks, distribution was poor. We were dross. Second half we should have scored three at least. I can accept defeat and applaud a better team, but the difference in our performance first and second half leaves me cross and frustrated. We have what it takes to go toe to toe with full time clubs but when we only play 45 minutes we are going to lose at this level.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: CRT Butty on December 11, 2021, 07:49:20 PM
I thought 1405 was a bloody good turnout in pish weather two weeks before crimbo  and ticket availability not been known till fairly late on.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Sale Holmfield on December 11, 2021, 08:35:00 PM
Good posts by CRT Butty which summed up the game well.

The stewarding seemed perfectly polite and okay (not sure what to say about ATS's exoerience!), although the refereeing was poor.

Bromley managed the game very well once they took the lead, and I expect them to be up near the top of the table come the end of the season. We didn't play badly at all in the second half (quite the contrary) but still don't have  a target man who can be guaranteed to score goals, even though they show promise. I am sure everyone knows that.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on December 11, 2021, 08:37:26 PM
I think there was only 900 in the ground. No one in Chequers. Very thin on the popside and in front of the community centre
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on December 11, 2021, 08:44:42 PM
Are ST holders counted as attending whether they are or not?
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on December 11, 2021, 08:46:43 PM
I think they will be
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on December 11, 2021, 08:48:27 PM
Well 3 points dropped in a game we could and should have won pretty cosily in the 2nd half.. a Big No show in the first half and we kept their defence busy in the second half..

If we had a forward (and yes I’m going to mention him) of the style of Jordon Hulme  then the likes of Hancock, Kosylo and Colclough would have scored lots more goals..

Time has now come to try to get someone to play that Hulme like role,

Would I like to see Jordon back at ML???

At the present time… Yes I would. Dinanga  &  AJ Leitch-Smith don’t cut it for me.

Onwards & Upwards.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on December 11, 2021, 08:49:59 PM
Our play is annoying. It's almost a case of "Go out there and knock it about fo r 45 minutes while I work out how we should play.

Then second half its all out attack just like it was when we were in the Evostick. Only JJ is missing!
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: JD on December 11, 2021, 10:59:23 PM
YET....only 4 teams have scored more than we have.

It is a conundrum!
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on December 12, 2021, 12:07:44 AM
YET....only 4 teams have scored more than we have.

It is a conundrum!

It could have a lot to do with our high scoring rate being linked to a meagre goal difference of +4
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on December 12, 2021, 12:21:48 AM
Well 3 points dropped in a game we could and should have won pretty cosily in the 2nd half.. a Big No show in the first half and we kept their defence busy in the second half..

If we had a forward (and yes I’m going to mention him) of the style of Jordon Hulme  then the likes of Hancock, Kosylo and Colclough would have scored lots more goals..

Time has now come to try to get someone to play that Hulme like role,

Would I like to see Jordon back at ML???

At the present time… Yes I would. Dinanga  &  AJ Leitch-Smith don’t cut it for me.

Onwards & Upwards.


Agreed re Jordan who isnt starting for Fylde, nothing to lose getting him in on loan
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: finnquark1 on December 12, 2021, 12:45:57 AM
Bromley nearly scored two or three times before their goal because we seemingly couldn't comprehend the idea that Cheek likes to pull off the shoulder of the centre half and onto the left back. The organisation for the set piece they scored from wasn't great either, I think Moult was paired with their no. 6, which was later resolved by one of the centre halves picking him up. I'd be more concerned about the persistent leaking of daft goals - we're bound to have the odd afternoon where we don't score, and the least we deserved today was a point.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Randy Konk on December 12, 2021, 10:06:57 AM
I thought there was a push from the Bromley striker before the goal. Didn’t see any Alty player appealing however so probably me clutching at straws.

Don’t think Jordan Hulme would help our cause at the moment to be honest.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: wayno on December 12, 2021, 10:30:18 AM
It's a long shot ..but if we could track down Chris senior ??
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Ukrainian Alty on December 12, 2021, 03:00:58 PM
If we need a forward (and yes I’m going to mention him) of the style of Jordon Hulme  then the likes of Hancock, Kosylo and Colclough would have scored lots more goals..

I agree wholeheartedly with this and felt disappointed with Parky's assertion during the post-match interview on Alty TV that we are scoring goals.  The fact is that we are only scoring consolation goals in many cases and we are giving most of the teams we play against a one or two goal head start before we begin to show any interest in the game.  Also, we do not break on the counter attack as quickly as we used to do and we are giving our opponents too much time to form an effective defense.  A big number 9 is required to act as a target man who can receive the ball, hold it up and and lay it off to a colleagues moving into potential goal scoring positions.  This has worked well for us in the past and I see no reason to abandon these tactics.

We now have only one win in 10 games (and yes, we have had some decent draws against big clubs) and I am getting worried.

I have to go out now but I probably will have more to say on this thread. 
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on December 12, 2021, 03:22:02 PM
I think most people on here agree with you and are saying the same thing in slightly different ways across several threads.
Despite what PP said in the interview, I believe he feels the same way too.
As I've said, I think the problem will only be resolved when we go full time.
Hopefully next season.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on December 12, 2021, 03:51:58 PM


Neil Sorvel in today's issue of the Non League Paper:

"Our attacking play was fantastic but we haven't scored enough from that number nine spot this season."

The problem is glaringly obvious, however since Hulme's abrupt departure the likes of Adarabioyo, Blyth, Harrison, Gibson, Bell and Piggott have all been recruited, tried and duly found to be substandard.

And now Dinanga, for whom I believe we paid a transfer fee, is looking increasingly forlorn.

The frustrating conundrum persists.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: JD on December 12, 2021, 10:09:36 PM
YET....only 4 teams have scored more than we have.

It is a conundrum!

It could have a lot to do with our high scoring rate being linked to a meagre goal difference of +4

Adds to the conundrum in that we usually have a very accomplished back 4 (left back has, I think, been our weakness), yet, with all those goals, just have a +4 GD!
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Hugh on December 13, 2021, 01:12:45 AM
YET....only 4 teams have scored more than we have.

It is a conundrum!

It could have a lot to do with our high scoring rate being linked to a meagre goal difference of +4

+4 in the NL is fantastic! I don't think there's been many times post Maunders that we've finished better than that at Conference level. I predicted a 14th to 16th place finish at the start of the season and I would be happy with that (apart from the NL not being much fun these days). It's a 5 year plan to get in the league and I think a serious challenge will have to wait for full time football and when we've sorted ground improvements - we just don't seem able to bid for the likes of Ashley Hemmings at the minute and have to hope we'll get lucky on a Piggott.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Hugh on December 13, 2021, 01:27:49 AM
Some of the best problems I've ever seen complained about.

If we want a league standard team we need a league standard club.

You don't seem to take other people's problems very seriously do you? Of course it's a problem, I have been thinking along the same lines as One Foot in the Grave (Warrington? Wythenshawe Town?). I'll see how bad it gets - and hopefully some things will be better soon - but this nonsense is an issue for some of us, and the club could end up losing some long standing supporters.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Hugh on December 13, 2021, 01:38:41 AM
A couple of things are brought to mind by comments on this thread.
In no particular order
When I am trying to drive out of Golf Road post match I am horrified, petrified and disgusted even by people not only just setting sail across the road with no consideration of the vehicular traffic but make Abusive signs and comments toward drivers who have the temerity to not stop immediately.
Point 2 is that, given the revised regulations relating to the perimeter fence, there are going to be some disenchanted youngsters at the game. If you are the parent or guardian of one of these children please (and I know it's not going to be easy or pleasant) try to remain as compliant with the requests of the Stewards as possible.  Any significant issues tomorrow may adversely affect chances of a reasonable capacity over Christmas/New Year

Point 3
When I have been to both Old Trafford grounds, The Etihad and the Academy Stadium I have been searched, including being 'wanded' It took seconds and caused me no issues. I was similarly checked at the Southend game by a very polite steward who fully explained the process to me and those around me

Phil, people have a right to walk in the road, and rather more right than all those cyclists we get on the pavement along Manchester Road. It is up to motorists to be ready and avoid pedestrians in the road, they are not breaking any law. I have never had any issues. Or maybe you're the type of person who would call the police about children playing football in the street?
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: CRT Butty on December 13, 2021, 06:46:08 AM
A couple of things are brought to mind by comments on this thread.
In no particular order
When I am trying to drive out of Golf Road post match I am horrified, petrified and disgusted even by people not only just setting sail across the road with no consideration of the vehicular traffic but make Abusive signs and comments toward drivers who have the temerity to not stop immediately.
Point 2 is that, given the revised regulations relating to the perimeter fence, there are going to be some disenchanted youngsters at the game. If you are the parent or guardian of one of these children please (and I know it's not going to be easy or pleasant) try to remain as compliant with the requests of the Stewards as possible.  Any significant issues tomorrow may adversely affect chances of a reasonable capacity over Christmas/New Year

Point 3
When I have been to both Old Trafford grounds, The Etihad and the Academy Stadium I have been searched, including being 'wanded' It took seconds and caused me no issues. I was similarly checked at the Southend game by a very polite steward who fully explained the process to me and those around me

Phil, people have a right to walk in the road, and rather more right than all those cyclists we get on the pavement along Manchester Road. It is up to motorists to be ready and avoid pedestrians in the road, they are not breaking any law. I have never had any issues. Or maybe you're the type of person who would call the police about children playing football in the street?

If you walk in the road, please pay attention and not simply be staring at the mobile.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on December 13, 2021, 01:46:43 PM
Extended highlights on Youtube. Unbelievable that we didn't score
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on December 13, 2021, 03:26:16 PM
Some of the best problems I've ever seen complained about.

If we want a league standard team we need a league standard club.

You don't seem to take other people's problems very seriously do you? Of course it's a problem, I have been thinking along the same lines as One Foot in the Grave (Warrington? Wythenshawe Town?). I'll see how bad it gets - and hopefully some things will be better soon - but this nonsense is an issue for some of us, and the club could end up losing some long standing supporters.

Maybe if you go to watch one of those teams I can stop living rent free in your head. It's dusty as f**k in here anyway, and I keep falling over badly placed ideas.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: jhcorbett on December 13, 2021, 03:28:23 PM
Extended highlights on Youtube. Unbelievable that we didn't score

At the end of the game I thought we could have scored 3 in the second half, watching that back it is more like 5,6 or 7.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on December 13, 2021, 04:37:42 PM
Actually Hugh walking in the road when there is an accessible footpath is not legal
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Sale Holmfield on December 13, 2021, 04:51:47 PM
Actually Hugh walking in the road when there is an accessible footpath is not legal
Under what law, please? The relevant section  I can see of the Highway Code states " Pavements (including any path along the side of a road) should be used if provided. Where possible, avoid being next to the kerb with your back to the traffic. If you have to step into the road, look both ways first. Always show due care and consideration for others." 

There appear to be a lot of qualifications there, and it's sensible advice rather than the prohibition imposed to prevent walking on a motorway.  What's more, sometimes bad parking along Moss Lane can force pedestrians into walking along the road when the pavement is blocked.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on December 13, 2021, 04:58:21 PM
Actually Hugh walking in the road when there is an accessible footpath is not legal

Neither is theft tbf. Doesn't stop people.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: altering um on December 13, 2021, 10:12:05 PM
 "If football ground is adjacent to a cul-de-sac then on matchdays close the road, not the football ground."

 Lora Logic.
 
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Bear Town Robin on December 13, 2021, 11:05:31 PM
Meanwhile, elsewhere in Trafford
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Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on December 14, 2021, 10:07:35 AM
Trafford Council allow MUFC to exercise total anarchy. Don't try to drive into Town along Chester Road any time between five minutes before a match ends, and twenty minutes after it finishes - the police operate a total traffic lockdown.

Perhaps the Council would let us shut Moss Lane at 4.45 on Saturdays for half an hour on Public Safety grounds....or not.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on December 14, 2021, 11:18:31 AM
If we need a forward (and yes I’m going to mention him) of the style of Jordon Hulme  then the likes of Hancock, Kosylo and Colclough would have scored lots more goals..

I agree wholeheartedly with this and felt disappointed with Parky's assertion during the post-match interview on Alty TV that we are scoring goals.  The fact is that we are only scoring consolation goals in many cases and we are giving most of the teams we play against a one or two goal head start before we begin to show any interest in the game.  Also, we do not break on the counter attack as quickly as we used to do and we are giving our opponents too much time to form an effective defense.  A big number 9 is required to act as a target man who can receive the ball, hold it up and and lay it off to a colleagues moving into potential goal scoring positions.  This has worked well for us in the past and I see no reason to abandon these tactics.

We now have only one win in 10 games (and yes, we have had some decent draws against big clubs) and I am getting worried.

I have to go out now but I probably will have more to say on this thread.

I'm not worried about our form to be honest - we've had a tough run of games.

As much as people have been frustrated by our recent slow starts, it hasn't been a season-long problem (in fact, at one point we were bemoaning not coming out after half time and holding on to our leads - Woking, Eastleigh, Solihull etc).

Ultimately we've picked up points at places we wouldn't have done last season (like Aldershot and Chesterfield) and comfortably dispatched the one team we're clearly stronger than (Weymouth).

We're not going to threaten either end of the table - fingers crossed for an exciting Trophy run if Notts can't be arsed.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on December 14, 2021, 12:27:08 PM
My issue is with the people who just walk into, across and along the various carriageways with zero consideration for other users.
That they then choose to abuse drivers for having the temerity to drive on the roads puts the tin hat on it.

Anything which may potentially compromise safety in or around the environs of the Stadium should be avoided. Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't there been mention of the roads (particularly Golf Rd) in recent posts and club requests?
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: CRT Butty on December 14, 2021, 01:35:48 PM
My issue is with the people who just walk into, across and along the various carriageways with zero consideration for other users.
That they then choose to abuse drivers for having the temerity to drive on the roads puts the tin hat on it.

Anything which may potentially compromise safety in or around the environs of the Stadium should be avoided. Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't there been mention of the roads (particularly Golf Rd) in recent posts and club requests?

I am a driver, cyclist, pedestrian and very occasional horse rider on the road. The same principles apply to all.
1) be patient 2) be aware 3) be courteous 4) say please and thank you.

That really should cover it.

Back to reality.