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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: oneedham on September 17, 2011, 04:53:02 PM
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I have previously posted about Sinnott but for me he is not the sort of manager we need. I don't like his tactics and he annoys me in the way he plays players out of position. Last home game when we won 4-1 we had clee on the wing hugging the line, as stated previously this is his position and it showed that day when he ripped the full back apart and created chances, however he goes back to playing Clee more central and carries on playing fat boy lazy Twiss, does not derseve his place and thats my opinion, we need centre mid sorting. Any update on Conners??? because thats the player we need !!!! I know its early but we should be right up there as its a very very poor league in standard !!! If this continues then I would look at a new manager !!!
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JUST READ THE CONNERS POST !!!
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Imo too early and not for a gh return
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Centre mid will be sorted when Danylyk returns from suspension, as many have stated after last week's game he played well as stand in captain and the team as a whole performed to their potential and were unfortunate not to keep a clean sheet. The side's balance last Saturday at home was perfect and though Lawton was missing in defence due to injury, the defence were more robust and dealt well with the opposition, unfortuanately Sinnott was unable to play an unchanged side and keep the momentum up.
The fact that we have suffered financially due to the drop shows how we are exposed when down to bare bones but once again I say stick with the manager who has proven success at this level. Rome after all wasn't built in a day! As for Twiss, his hold up play last week and his well taken goal were real positives that should not be scorned at.
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Common sense spoken at long last, lets not panic , and keep a perspective on things. Blowing hot and cold at present, but lets not forget what happened last week, and how many midfield players are out.
Why are you calling for Sinnott's head already, the squad is thin and down to bare bones at present, we have to review after every game but Lee has shown he is not afraid to make changes if the need arises.
He was a hero last week!!
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Common sense spoken at long last, lets not panic , and keep a perspective on things. Blowing hot and cold at present, but lets not forget what happened last week, and how many midfield players are out.
Why are you calling for Sinnott's head already, the squad is thin and down to bare bones at present, we have to review after every game but Lee has shown he is not afraid to make changes if the need arises.
He was a hero last week!!
Yes
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The least said about todays match the better.. Dennis Birch did his level best again to carry out his PR Work with the fans players and officials - I hope you folks on the fans coach had a quiet trip back to Alty :D
That said, I have an amount of sympathy for Lee Sinnott - We have a squad of 16 Players of which 4/5 are youth team lads - add to that the suspensions and injuries and basically the team picks itself. There is no plan B simply because we havent the squad to adopt a plan B.
We heard at the beginning of the season that we had one of the healthiest playing budgets in the league (top 10 I believe) -
To have success you need as a bare minimum 16 players on the books who have experience of playing at this level (no disrespect to the young lads) they do there best and fair do's to them for that.
We either need to ship some players out pretty sharpish and replace them with better ones or release funds to lee to strengthen the squad (numbers wise).. I am not a greal lover of keep getting short term loans in as they dont fix the problem it is more of a make do and mend
Personally I dont think that things are going to improve much if we have to carry on as things are at present it will be good one week not so good the next.
I feel we play far too narrow both in defence and up front hence everything goes down the middle especially when Nicky Clee plays central as he did today. The bloke is superb when playing wide but he is far less effective when central. Teams suss us out pretty quickly both home and away and there wingers have acres of space in which to start there attacks.
Finally I never have been a fan of everyone being back at set pieces/corners, we never have An Out ball to play and the ball just comes straight back..
Apart from that - Things are going swimmingly ;)
See you at Colwyn Bay on Tues.......
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Playing Clee central is just stupid!
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As I said a month ago, we will pick up a lot more points at home than we will do on the road. We break down teams a lot easier at home and don't suffer from a lack of concentration, which is causing so many problems when playing away from Moss Lane.
14 wins, 6 draw, 1 loss at home is not an unrealistic target.
that said i do expect us to struggle away from homes at time due to the nature of the games.
48 points at home, and 25 points away from home would probably give us enough to finish in the playoffs.
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I know injuries and a suspension have kicked in today so the team picked its self, but to play Clee in the middle and Reeves on the wing is a bit bemusing to say the least.
Summerfate did okay and was the only non-negative on a complete shambolic display.
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Imo too early and not for a gh return
did you think graham was not given enough time out of interst? I only ask as sinott has had more time already vs last season (and has no proven track record unlike gh did)
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And not forgetting we were part time in a full time leauge last year
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Whether Sinnot is the man for the job or not remains to be seen but whatever happens Heathcote has gone and is in the past so i wish people would stop harping on about him and look forward!
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Whether Sinnot is the man for the job or not remains to be seen but whatever happens Heathcote has gone and is in the past so i wish people would stop harping on about him and look forward!
i hear you completley i am just trying to draw some parrallels here
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Also just so i am clear i am still behind Sinott it just sticks in my throat a little how short memoroes some people have in terms of how others were treated in a harder leauge
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As I said a month ago, we will pick up a lot more points at home than we will do on the road. We break down teams a lot easier at home and don't suffer from a lack of concentration, which is causing so many problems when playing away from Moss Lane.
14 wins, 6 draw, 1 loss at home is not an unrealistic target.
that said i do expect us to struggle away from homes at time due to the nature of the games.
48 points at home, and 25 points away from home would probably give us enough to finish in the playoffs.
25 points away is a total dream on our present showing. Up to now we have just 2 points from 5 away fixtures (practically a quarter of a season!) and if we improve considerably, we'll be lucky to total 15.
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How many times must we do the Heathcote thing?
Whether Sinnott turns out to be the right man or not, that fact was we were bottom with one point from eight games and with seven defeats out of eight having scored four goals.
I went to Gateshead for the final game of the eight and there was absolutely no way back from that. And every Alty fan on that coach knew it.
However his fate was sealed with the "come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" meeting where there was four chairs at the top table for the chairman. manager and others and he walked in removed them all and just left one for him. When a manager can tell the chairman he is not sitting at the top table and it was "his meeting" then you have to worry about who holds the power.
A cringingly bad hour followed by my question of "can you give the younger fans any sort of reason to attend the KIdderminster game on Saturday" and the answer of "what do you want me to do, tell you a load of lies".
No talk of "we'll get it right", no optimism and he looked a beaten man.
We may be struggling but we are a world away from that situation.
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Hero to zero that's part of this fickle game we call football management! I know about the budget, the small squad, the injuries, the settling in period-but for me sadly I'm not a sinnott fan. :(
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I know Sinnott has only had ten games but what do people think? Did he get lucky at Farsley or unlucky at Port Vale and BPA? At the moment its looking like the former but can he turn it round?
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I know Sinnott has only had ten games but what do people think? Did he get lucky at Farsley or unlucky at Port Vale and BPA? At the moment its looking like the former but can he turn it round?
I know people are getting very impatient and all. But there are very few managers who are as experienced, proven and as successful as Lee at this level. Surely three promotiions in the same amount of seasons wasn't a fluke was it? I'm sure it'll all come good in the end, in April we'll be looking back at all this commotion from the previous months and laughing while we sit in a comfortable 8th spot.
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losing 2-0 to bottom of the table is disappointing and embarassing....from what i've seen the standard of this league is poor but everyone is much of a muchness and we are as likely to lose to bottom of the league as we are to win against top of the league.
hearing that clee being played down the middle is just baffling and worrying but we are not going to get consistency with injuries and suspensions to key players.....have we ever had a manager who didn't try and put a square peg in a round hole occasionally?...I am reminded of a time we played bottom of the table vauxhall motors away and the 'cote decided to play colin potts as lone striker and kept Marcus hallows on the bench...bringing gary talbot forward as striker to try and salvage a draw in the 2nd half....
I'm still behind Lee and can't understand why people can't see the difference between him having the bit between his teeth and the 'cote's sad decline of interest and ambition....as outlined expertly by Ecky
We are still waiting for our season to take off and hope Lee doesn't lose heart...one thing he must instill is discipline to avoid stupid suspensions..
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I wanted the play offs at the start of the season now ill be happy with safety onwards and upwards
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When a manager is forced to put youth team players on the pitch in bloody september due to only having about 14 players,what do people expect?. Yesterday was the worst league result in the clubs history, but a couple of injuries and it was always going to happen.We need a proper sized squad before bemoaning the manager.
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I have previously posted about Sinnott but for me he is not the sort of manager we need. I don't like his tactics and he annoys me in the way he plays players out of position. Last home game when we won 4-1 we had clee on the wing hugging the line, as stated previously this is his position and it showed that day when he ripped the full back apart and created chances, however he goes back to playing Clee more central and carries on playing fat boy lazy Twiss, does not derseve his place and thats my opinion, we need centre mid sorting. Any update on Conners??? because thats the player we need !!!! I know its early but we should be right up there as its a very very poor league in standard !!! If this continues then I would look at a new manager !!!
"Fatboy lazy twiss" scored and played well last week! Why would you drop him for the next away fixture?
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I have previously posted about Sinnott but for me he is not the sort of manager we need. I don't like his tactics and he annoys me in the way he plays players out of position. Last home game when we won 4-1 we had clee on the wing hugging the line, as stated previously this is his position and it showed that day when he ripped the full back apart and created chances, however he goes back to playing Clee more central and carries on playing fat boy lazy Twiss, does not derseve his place and thats my opinion, we need centre mid sorting. Any update on Conners??? because thats the player we need !!!! I know its early but we should be right up there as its a very very poor league in standard !!! If this continues then I would look at a new manager !!!
"Fatboy lazy twiss" scored and played well last week! Why would you drop him for the next away fixture?
totally agree cant make twiss scapegoat this time,hes been one of are best performers this season.
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100% for Lee. 100%. we changed manager in mid season last yer and look what happened.
Lee is trying to do the right things, there is a confidence issue in the players & we need to learn to keep the ball when we have it.
Unshaken confidence in Lee.
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100% for Lee. 100%. we changed manager in mid season last yer and look what happened.
Lee is trying to do the right things, there is a confidence issue in the players & we need to learn to keep the ball when we have it.
Unshaken confidence in Lee.
we didnt change the manager mid season last year however i am too behind Lee up the reds
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If we didn't change manager in mid-season last year, what the hell happened on the 14th September 2010?
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Just put yourself in Sinnotts place.
Things going tits up on the pitch.
You turn round and look at the players available on the bench
You have 3 Youth team lads a goalie and a defender who isnt 100% fit after being out for a month with an injury, and a 37 year striker for use in a dire emergency.
You have to admit that "Options are limited" to say the least.
I doubt the Jock at Old Trafford would be able to change things around given the same circumstances.
I admit that playing people out of there normal position doesnt help, but what would you do.
Answers on a postcard to Mr L Sinnott c/o Altrincham Football club
I've said it once already this weekend - We need a min of 16 fit players with experience at this level week in week out
I am also a tad surprised that our budget cant run to that, yes I admit we dont get the visiting fans etc but as others have said already, we do charge the same prices as a BSP side, you have to have the bare minimum of a decent squad to compete in any league.
Rant Over
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I think that was the issue on Saturday to be honest.
It wasn't working up front so he did the only thing that he could do whioch was swop people around.
Nothing wrong with that but he should have swopped it back when it was clear that Clee had disappeared from the game.
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I have previously posted about Sinnott but for me he is not the sort of manager we need. I don't like his tactics and he annoys me in the way he plays players out of position. Last home game when we won 4-1 we had clee on the wing hugging the line, as stated previously this is his position and it showed that day when he ripped the full back apart and created chances, however he goes back to playing Clee more central and carries on playing fat boy lazy Twiss, does not derseve his place and thats my opinion, we need centre mid sorting. Any update on Conners??? because thats the player we need !!!! I know its early but we should be right up there as its a very very poor league in standard !!! If this continues then I would look at a new manager !!!
"Fatboy lazy twiss" scored and played well last week! Why would you drop him for the next away fixture?
totally agree cant make twiss scapegoat this time,hes been one of are best performers this season.
it is not twiss alone thats the problem but what game are you both watching? one of the main reasons why we are sliding down the pyramid is his lack of goals both last season and this. his stats are appaling.
you cannot argue with that
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I wanted the play offs at the start of the season now ill be happy with safety onwards and upwards
I agree! Play offs would be great, but staying away from the relegation zone would be even better.
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I agree! Play offs would be great, but staying away from the relegation zone would be even better.
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I have previously posted about Sinnott but for me he is not the sort of manager we need. I don't like his tactics and he annoys me in the way he plays players out of position. Last home game when we won 4-1 we had clee on the wing hugging the line, as stated previously this is his position and it showed that day when he ripped the full back apart and created chances, however he goes back to playing Clee more central and carries on playing fat boy lazy Twiss, does not derseve his place and thats my opinion, we need centre mid sorting. Any update on Conners??? because thats the player we need !!!! I know its early but we should be right up there as its a very very poor league in standard !!! If this continues then I would look at a new manager !!!
"Fatboy lazy twiss" scored and played well last week! Why would you drop him for the next away fixture?
totally agree cant make twiss scapegoat this time,hes been one of are best performers this season.
it is not twiss alone thats the problem but what game are you both watching? one of the main reasons why we are sliding down the pyramid is his lack of goals both last season and this. his stats are appaling.
you cannot argue with that
This year: 9 apps, 3 goals. Now there's no way i can defend his record last season, but that definitely isn't an appalling record this year (it's by no means spectacularly good either mind you...), especially considering the improvement in his all-round contribution to play which has accompanied it...
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Simply we are not good enough.
That is not to say that we dont have good players though.
A combination of factors make us not good enough, what they are we will never truely know:-
Manager? Budget? Players? Subs Bench? Training Regieme? Injuries? Discipline?
None of us know what needs to be done apart from the officials at the club, whether what needs to be done can be done is another thing.
We all speculate too much on here, we dont know what the management is thinking. Clee might have been played down the middle as the central defenders were seen as week and running at them might have caused problems, we just dont know whether it was right or wrong. Althought it would appear it didnt work.
As for Twiss why dont you all get off his back, he cant much more to turn fans around than he is.As for GH I was a big fan of his, but after so long he got worn down, like almost anyone would. Whilst I dont think he should come back we need to give the guy a break and put yourself in his shoes. What he had to/voluntarily did for the club was beyond the call of duty, it would wear anyone down.
Still it is all a good read on here, makes my lunch time pass quickly though.
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Twiss's 3 goals in 9 games equates to 14 over a full seson, and isn't too bad for effectively our second striker.
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This has been a weekend of detailed analysis from people who didn't go and didn't even have commentary.
Everyone around me (and me) on Saturday was disappointed that Twiss was taken off, he was the only one holding the ball up front and trying to make things happen. Wasn't world beating but was far from lazy.
Some other players must be delighted he soaks up most of the vitriol on here to deflect from their shortcomings.