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Re: The elephant in the room
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2021, 01:00:35 AM »

The side that had Rankine and Reeves in it had too many players that had completely lost their confidence. We are nowhere near that..

90% of players in this sqaud are confidence based...

I think that is true of the vast majority of players in all sports. We aren't there though. We're going through a difficult set of fixtures. If we don't get anything from the Kings Lynn game I'll change my mind.

15 games is a quater of the season. In that we've played 3 sides in the league below, 3 sides in the bottom 4, and 4 in the bottom half (when we played them).

1 win.

How can you possibly win points against a team in a higher or lower league?

Bit much counting the county cup in that 15 games too isn’t it?
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Re: The elephant in the room
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2021, 01:58:05 AM »

Solihull Moors too (when our injury situation was bad enough even before adding the effects of the testdemic).

A few weeks back, people were getting carried away saying we might finish top half, and now we could go down?

Trust me, we'll be here next season barring a disaster, and my original prediction of 14th to 16th likely won't be far off. Parky said we would have a bad run at some point and guess what - we have.

Incidentally, did they decide if we would get the game called off a similar situation happened again? Nuts if we have to make loan signings on the day of the game to get it played.
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Re: The elephant in the room
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2021, 09:50:13 AM »

The side that had Rankine and Reeves in it had too many players that had completely lost their confidence. We are nowhere near that..

90% of players in this sqaud are confidence based...

I think that is true of the vast majority of players in all sports. We aren't there though. We're going through a difficult set of fixtures. If we don't get anything from the Kings Lynn game I'll change my mind.

15 games is a quater of the season. In that we've played 3 sides in the league below, 3 sides in the bottom 4, and 4 in the bottom half (when we played them).

1 win.

How can you possibly win points against a team in a higher or lower league?

Bit much counting the county cup in that 15 games too isn’t it?

We played a first X1 against a side that probably will get relegated from the Evo Stik, to try and get a confidence win and lost.

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Re: The elephant in the room
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2021, 10:18:58 AM »

The side that had Rankine and Reeves in it had too many players that had completely lost their confidence. We are nowhere near that..

90% of players in this sqaud are confidence based...

I think that is true of the vast majority of players in all sports. We aren't there though. We're going through a difficult set of fixtures. If we don't get anything from the Kings Lynn game I'll change my mind.

15 games is a quater of the season. In that we've played 3 sides in the league below, 3 sides in the bottom 4, and 4 in the bottom half (when we played them).

1 win.

How can you possibly win points against a team in a higher or lower league?

Bit much counting the county cup in that 15 games too isn’t it?

We played a first X1 against a side that probably will get relegated from the Evo Stik, to try and get a confidence win and lost.

And it's that sort of thing that moved me to think the "unthinkable" and open this thread. 7 points from 11 matches equates to us finishing on around 40 points if we don't get our act together - and that's a dangerous prospect.
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Re: The elephant in the room
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2021, 10:20:59 AM »

As it stands, we will go down.

The side that had rankine and Reeves was "too good to go down"

What irked me about both of our last National League relegations was not knowing our best teams.

The first time round I distinctly remember we didn't play Reeves often enough because we didn't know how good he was.

The second time round our best system (that brought our best form) was a flat 4-5-1 with Rankine up top, and utilising O'Keeffe more often alongside Moult and Richman - but we couldn't bear to drop Reeves for the sake of the system, and were obsessed with playing Lawrie in his supposed 'best position' through the middle rather than being sacrificed to the wing/bench - which meant we ended up with a 4-4-1-1 that got absolutely steamrolled every week.
 
I fear we're making the same mistake now - is Hancock the new Lawrie in this sense? Until we have a change in personnel the best front four are clearly Colclough and Mooney on the wings, Kosylo in No10 and Hancock up front. That front four will get us more than enough points to stay well clear of trouble.
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Re: The elephant in the room
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2021, 10:43:49 AM »

I always think our last relegation from the National was not helped by some poor decisions from the Boardroom. It was fairly obvious for a few weeks that Sinnott for whatever reason had lost his mojo and should have been eased out. To delay and then replace him with the woefully under qualified Neil Tolson (who I don’t think has managed a team anywhere near this level since) cost us just as much, if not more, than anything the players did. However bad this current run is I think we have a better squad, management team & board then we did back then so i am more than confident we’ll be fine in the long run.
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Re: The elephant in the room
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2021, 10:45:11 AM »

The side that had Rankine and Reeves in it had too many players that had completely lost their confidence. We are nowhere near that..

90% of players in this sqaud are confidence based...

I think that is true of the vast majority of players in all sports. We aren't there though. We're going through a difficult set of fixtures. If we don't get anything from the Kings Lynn game I'll change my mind.

15 games is a quater of the season. In that we've played 3 sides in the league below, 3 sides in the bottom 4, and 4 in the bottom half (when we played them).

1 win.

How can you possibly win points against a team in a higher or lower league?

Bit much counting the county cup in that 15 games too isn’t it?

We played a first X1 against a side that probably will get relegated from the Evo Stik, to try and get a confidence win and lost.

No we didn't.
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Re: The elephant in the room
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2021, 11:02:46 AM »

Need to get county out the way and just take whatever we get. Barnet, Kings Lynn and Torquay after that. We need to be picking up 7 points from those 3 to get us back on track.
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Re: The elephant in the room
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2021, 12:05:48 PM »

If we get 7 points from those three games I'll be surprised.
Utterly delighted but surprised.
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Re: The elephant in the room
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2021, 12:34:59 PM »

It's a shame we got the pitch fixed.

We could have moaned about the fixture pile up along with everything else.
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Re: The elephant in the room
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2021, 01:22:04 PM »

It's a shame we got the pitch fixed.

We could have moaned about the fixture pile up along with everything else.

It genuinely might have saved our season so far
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Re: The elephant in the room
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2021, 02:27:39 PM »

If we get 7 points from those three games I'll be surprised.
Utterly delighted but surprised.

We have already seen what Torquay are about, Barnet are clearly nothing special. If we get the ball down we can beat Torquay and get a point at Barnet. We should be beating Kings Lynn. No reason why we shouldn't be getting 7 points.
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Re: The elephant in the room
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2021, 02:36:50 PM »

If we get 7 points from those three games I'll be surprised.
Utterly delighted but surprised.

We have already seen what Torquay are about, Barnet are clearly nothing special. If we get the ball down we can beat Torquay and get a point at Barnet. We should be beating Kings Lynn. No reason why we shouldn't be getting 7 points.
Both Barnet and Torquay have climbed the league a bit since the early stages of the season. It won't be as easy as it might have been a few weeks ago. Also, Kings Lynn seem to have been competitive but losing (like us apart from Stockport) so that will be awkward too.
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Re: The elephant in the room
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2021, 05:15:17 PM »

Don't underestimate Barnet. They'd won 5 out of 6 before losing 1-0 at Yeovil, and were holding Boreham Wood until having a man sent off. On our current form we'll be lucky to draw there. On the upside, both Torquay and Kings Lynn are beatable - on paper. But we play on grass
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Re: The elephant in the room
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2021, 09:51:29 AM »

If its Hulme as rumours circling suggested, it's very akin to bringing a fat Clee back to try and keep us up. that year


The dressing room needs a lift despite what Parky says, if Hulme is it, we'll have to go with it.

But given the money spent on strikers, this shows a real poor showing on a footballing front. 6 strikers, number 7 has to work.
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