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 31 
 on: Yesterday at 12:15:53 PM 
Started by Alty Dave - Last post by robininstockport
Been brilliant.


 32 
 on: Yesterday at 10:55:00 AM 
Started by Alty Dave - Last post by Amsterdam Alty
Bloody huge boots to fill.

Name another DoF at our level or above that is so qualified via their success and career.

Overseen everything good that has happened. From Getting back to NL, going full time, the immense quality of player signings, play off football.

This summer we're fine, the wheels will be well in motion already. Jan onwards though I'm concerned a little more than I was yesterday.

 33 
 on: Yesterday at 10:45:01 AM 
Started by Alty Dave - Last post by Alty Dave
From main site, Rob is stepping down..

https://altrinchamfc.com/blogs/news/rob-esteva-to-step-down-this-summer

Best of luck Rob for the future, you've done a great job at Alty and a really nice bloke as well. Big boots to fill.

 34 
 on: May 13, 2024, 06:29:01 PM 
Started by Saughall Robin - Last post by rorysgrandad
Shouldn't we all be exhaling to?

 35 
 on: May 13, 2024, 06:28:25 PM 
Started by Saughall Robin - Last post by MarpleAlty
500K would be unbelievable. I think (should CCC leave) it'll be nearer the Stokes fee tbh but I hope you are right. Do I think Fleetwood would have been stupid? Yes 🤣

Whatever happens, I just hope it's done quickly (and undisclosed) so the club know where they stand.
Fleetwood are getting money because of his age. They will have done % deal though it's almost a standard feature of lower league transfers. See us getting some money for signing and never playing Berry. We'll do the same with Chris when we sell him I'm certain. We know from Watmore though that doesn't always work out so well.

Stokes went for over 300 all in I think and he came with a wage free loan back. so that's 500k in value surely. We've gotta hope it gets bidding war silly to push to the higher end. Which as has been mentioned might come with the social media frenzy.

Again, correct me if I'm wrong (and I very well could be!) but I'm not sure age comes into it - Fleetwood agreed a transfer with us, of their own free will, for a player that was under contract with them. How well they negotiated in terms of sell-on % is up to them.
Age does I believe for players under 23 that have been trained by an academy there is a fixed solidarity percentage around 5%. This will mean Burnley and Fleetwood profit. We got the same when Dan Mooney left for his sojourn to the world of big crowds and small squads.

The owner of the club does not do the contract administration either. It would be negligent of an employee to just not bother with an industry standard clause.

We'll owe around 20-25% is my guess to Fleetwood (& Burnley to a lesser extent). With similar percentages negotiated in with the sale price when we are negotiating. Remember this clause is free money to all selling parties involved. It's an easy sweetener on a player you rate.

Dan Mooney was out of contract though - I thought it was to protect clubs who had developed a young player only to lose them for absolutely nothing?

I agree that I'd be amazed if the industry standard clause isn't in there - out of a £250k fee for argument's sake, I suspect at least £50k would go to Fleetwood.

Burnley chose to release him, I don't think they'd get a penny otherwise it would be carnage up and down the pyramid. I'm sure the acid test is demonstrating that you put your own contract on the table.
There are two rules. The one we were able to take advantage of as a out of contract player with Mooney, then the training solidarity fee which is where we'd need to share some cash in a sale situation to all parties involved in their development.

I know of this due to FM but it is real :) they might not know the actual wages/real player ratings etc. but they do have the rules to hand.

Wasn't familiar with this at all! Thanks for the info.

 36 
 on: May 13, 2024, 02:12:53 PM 
Started by Saughall Robin - Last post by Saughall Robin
Off season IS preseason to me! 😊 😊

 37 
 on: May 13, 2024, 02:02:45 PM 
Started by Saughall Robin - Last post by CRT Butty
For what?

Exactly! 😉

That's the tension and excitement of preseason.

Is it preseason already? Is this the off season?

 38 
 on: May 13, 2024, 12:26:39 PM 
Started by Saughall Robin - Last post by Amsterdam Alty
500K would be unbelievable. I think (should CCC leave) it'll be nearer the Stokes fee tbh but I hope you are right. Do I think Fleetwood would have been stupid? Yes 🤣

Whatever happens, I just hope it's done quickly (and undisclosed) so the club know where they stand.
Fleetwood are getting money because of his age. They will have done % deal though it's almost a standard feature of lower league transfers. See us getting some money for signing and never playing Berry. We'll do the same with Chris when we sell him I'm certain. We know from Watmore though that doesn't always work out so well.

Stokes went for over 300 all in I think and he came with a wage free loan back. so that's 500k in value surely. We've gotta hope it gets bidding war silly to push to the higher end. Which as has been mentioned might come with the social media frenzy.

Again, correct me if I'm wrong (and I very well could be!) but I'm not sure age comes into it - Fleetwood agreed a transfer with us, of their own free will, for a player that was under contract with them. How well they negotiated in terms of sell-on % is up to them.
Age does I believe for players under 23 that have been trained by an academy there is a fixed solidarity percentage around 5%. This will mean Burnley and Fleetwood profit. We got the same when Dan Mooney left for his sojourn to the world of big crowds and small squads.

The owner of the club does not do the contract administration either. It would be negligent of an employee to just not bother with an industry standard clause.

We'll owe around 20-25% is my guess to Fleetwood (& Burnley to a lesser extent). With similar percentages negotiated in with the sale price when we are negotiating. Remember this clause is free money to all selling parties involved. It's an easy sweetener on a player you rate.

Dan Mooney was out of contract though - I thought it was to protect clubs who had developed a young player only to lose them for absolutely nothing?

I agree that I'd be amazed if the industry standard clause isn't in there - out of a £250k fee for argument's sake, I suspect at least £50k would go to Fleetwood.

Burnley chose to release him, I don't think they'd get a penny otherwise it would be carnage up and down the pyramid. I'm sure the acid test is demonstrating that you put your own contract on the table.
There are two rules. The one we were able to take advantage of as a out of contract player with Mooney, then the training solidarity fee which is where we'd need to share some cash in a sale situation to all parties involved in their development.

I know of this due to FM but it is real :) they might not know the actual wages/real player ratings etc. but they do have the rules to hand.

 39 
 on: May 13, 2024, 11:45:23 AM 
Started by Saughall Robin - Last post by MarpleAlty
500K would be unbelievable. I think (should CCC leave) it'll be nearer the Stokes fee tbh but I hope you are right. Do I think Fleetwood would have been stupid? Yes 🤣

Whatever happens, I just hope it's done quickly (and undisclosed) so the club know where they stand.
Fleetwood are getting money because of his age. They will have done % deal though it's almost a standard feature of lower league transfers. See us getting some money for signing and never playing Berry. We'll do the same with Chris when we sell him I'm certain. We know from Watmore though that doesn't always work out so well.

Stokes went for over 300 all in I think and he came with a wage free loan back. so that's 500k in value surely. We've gotta hope it gets bidding war silly to push to the higher end. Which as has been mentioned might come with the social media frenzy.

Again, correct me if I'm wrong (and I very well could be!) but I'm not sure age comes into it - Fleetwood agreed a transfer with us, of their own free will, for a player that was under contract with them. How well they negotiated in terms of sell-on % is up to them.
Age does I believe for players under 23 that have been trained by an academy there is a fixed solidarity percentage around 5%. This will mean Burnley and Fleetwood profit. We got the same when Dan Mooney left for his sojourn to the world of big crowds and small squads.

The owner of the club does not do the contract administration either. It would be negligent of an employee to just not bother with an industry standard clause.

We'll owe around 20-25% is my guess to Fleetwood (& Burnley to a lesser extent). With similar percentages negotiated in with the sale price when we are negotiating. Remember this clause is free money to all selling parties involved. It's an easy sweetener on a player you rate.

Dan Mooney was out of contract though - I thought it was to protect clubs who had developed a young player only to lose them for absolutely nothing?

I agree that I'd be amazed if the industry standard clause isn't in there - out of a £250k fee for argument's sake, I suspect at least £50k would go to Fleetwood.

Burnley chose to release him, I don't think they'd get a penny otherwise it would be carnage up and down the pyramid. I'm sure the acid test is demonstrating that you put your own contract on the table.

 40 
 on: May 13, 2024, 10:56:31 AM 
Started by Saughall Robin - Last post by Amsterdam Alty
500K would be unbelievable. I think (should CCC leave) it'll be nearer the Stokes fee tbh but I hope you are right. Do I think Fleetwood would have been stupid? Yes 🤣

Whatever happens, I just hope it's done quickly (and undisclosed) so the club know where they stand.
Fleetwood are getting money because of his age. They will have done % deal though it's almost a standard feature of lower league transfers. See us getting some money for signing and never playing Berry. We'll do the same with Chris when we sell him I'm certain. We know from Watmore though that doesn't always work out so well.

Stokes went for over 300 all in I think and he came with a wage free loan back. so that's 500k in value surely. We've gotta hope it gets bidding war silly to push to the higher end. Which as has been mentioned might come with the social media frenzy.

Again, correct me if I'm wrong (and I very well could be!) but I'm not sure age comes into it - Fleetwood agreed a transfer with us, of their own free will, for a player that was under contract with them. How well they negotiated in terms of sell-on % is up to them.
Age does I believe for players under 23 that have been trained by an academy there is a fixed solidarity percentage around 5%. This will mean Burnley and Fleetwood profit. We got the same when Dan Mooney left for his sojourn to the world of big crowds and small squads.

The owner of the club does not do the contract administration either. It would be negligent of an employee to just not bother with an industry standard clause.

We'll owe around 20-25% is my guess to Fleetwood (& Burnley to a lesser extent). With similar percentages negotiated in with the sale price when we are negotiating. Remember this clause is free money to all selling parties involved. It's an easy sweetener on a player you rate.

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