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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Macsporran on September 10, 2016, 03:06:17 PM
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Well, that's a strange selection to say the least..but I'll wait until the end before any direct criticism !
Looks like he's playing 4-4-2 , with Hobson and Reeves up front with Lawrie and Lynch playing outside Moult and Goodhall.
Hopefully we'll get an update from the guys who have made the trip on the shape and formation. Need a win today, good luck boys!
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Strange decision, but in all fairness, when you've not kept a clean sheet all season and your first choice centre backs are injured... Hope it works out.
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Well. No clean sheet again. I'm not sure we'll pose a threat without Miller or Cain on the flanks.
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Playing as a sweeper as he did at Halifax under JH.
Same old though. 1-0 down from a corner
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Well. No clean sheet again. I'm not sure we'll pose a threat without Miller or Cain on the flanks.
Agree
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It sounds really, really terrible. So much so that I've switched it off. I know poor Jim can turn it round given time and a bit more luck, but I wonder at what point our chairman really does begin to regret Young's appointment.
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2-0 down, safe to say that experiment has failed.
Sounds like another gutless display
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If you'd have said that we would be bottom of National League North, this time last year I'd have laughed. If someone tells me we'll be bottom of Unibond Premier League, this time next year, I won't laugh.
Heartbreaking
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Once Jim gets his two centre backs back, we will find out if this team is capable of staying up without wholesale changes again ie 50 percent to go
We have to hope the duffers are not on 12 month contracts or hope Duncan sells for five million - otherwise things could be a lot worse
If only we had acted sooner and stayed up - albeit we are where we are now on merit
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0 - 3 FFS >:( >:( >:(
Make that 0 - 4
Make that 0 - 5
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No magic wand, would take fourth from bottom finish already this season unfortunately
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Alas, it's not just the lack of centre backs. Our midfielders are too similar and lack mobility. We also have no overlapping full backs or creativity in wide positions. In short, it is a mess and I disagree strongly with anyone who thinks we should stick with this squad. At least half of them are inadequate for Conference North.
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I said it in a previous post. Not one of them is guaranteed to be at the club by xmas. Possible exception of reeves. He needs 5 in. Squad of 19. Current squad 24. So thats ten out.
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Terrible times. Seems like our only natural and decent full back is Densmore who might never return to his old best. Only one decent centre back in Hannigan, Cyrus potential. Only one decent mobile midfielder in Moult but is only a defensive/ sweeper not box to box. Richman has dropped off and Goodall too slow and similar to Moult. Lawrie is OK at this level but only behind a striker NOT out wide. We have no wingers at all. Miller is OK but a central player and only one striker. That makes about 5 or 6 outfield players that I feel are gof enough. May go up to 7 or 8 if Miller and Cyrus improve. We have the worst squad in years. Young has completely ripped us apart.
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5-0 down and Deasy is injured!
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Feel for the fans who travel away. Must be getting on for 12 months since last away win?
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Terrible times. Seems like our only natural and decent full back is Densmore who might never return to his old best. Only one decent centre back in Hannigan, Cyrus potential. Only one decent mobile midfielder in Moult but is only a defensive/ sweeper not box to box. Richman has dropped off and Goodall too slow and similar to Moult. Lawrie is OK at this level but only behind a striker NOT out wide. We have no wingers at all. Miller is OK but a central player and only one striker. That makes about 5 or 6 outfield players that I feel are gof enough. May go up to 7 or 8 if Miller and Cyrus improve. We have the worst squad in years. Young has completely ripped us apart.
And Rowley & Co let him.
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Feel for the fans who travel away. Must be getting on for 12 months since last away win?
10 months, I think - Bromley in November of last year.
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Exactly what I said after watching a couple of pre-season friendlies when I concluded that an 18th finish at best....oh how I'd take that now.
Just hope Harvey can get some of these players out but if they're all on contract and won't walk then we are in trouble.
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Desperately wanting to give harvey time to act, but feels like a crazy punt playing hattersley out of the blue. The only team selections i could make any sense of were the ones against stockport and chorley made by shaun d!
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Hattersley did play as sweeper under JH at Halifax apparently and it doesn't sound as if he's been the problem.
Can anyone think of our lower moment in our entire history? I can't.
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We are reaping the harvest of two catastrophic managerial decisions by the board. I can't remember feeling more angry and depressed in my thirty five years of supporting this club but perhaps the single thing that angers me the most is the board's failure to acknowledge in any way their role in all this. A truly shameful day.
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Dont want to get on manager's back, but keeping Deasy on for so long when injured doesn't make sense to me
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It's hard to see how this changes in the short term. We are stuck with a squad of donkeys, with little manoeuvrability in the transfer market. Jim talks about getting a few out on loan but last I knew the dog and duck didn't pay wages.
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If there is a "rainy day fund" then the club need to be under no illusion that it's absolutely pissing down. We face the prospect of going to nunny with no first choice keeper and three injured CBs. We Will be five points a drift If they beat us Tuesday. I Understand budget constraints etc, but if players, as mentioned by the new manager have expressed an interest to come, get them here by Tuesday.Make no mistake this is DEFCON 1. A new low today.
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I really really hope this is just a blip, if Harvey can't turn this around I don't know what will happen to the future of this club :(
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If there was/is a 'rainy day fund' it would/should have been used in February
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I really really hope this is just a blip, if Harvey can't turn this around I don't know what will happen to the future of this club :(
just a blip?
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If there is a "rainy day fund" then the club need to be under no illusion that it's absolutely pissing down. We face the prospect of going to nunny with no first choice keeper and three injured CBs. We Will be five points a drift If they beat us Tuesday. I Understand budget constraints etc, but if players, as mentioned by the new manager have expressed an interest to come, get them here by Tuesday.Make no mistake this is DEFCON 1. A new low today.
If their isn't a disaster fund then maybe the club should consider a loan on the strength of potential funds being generated by the CSH
Something needs to happen and fkn fast before damage inflicted by NY becomes iretreviable
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If there is a "rainy day fund" then the club need to be under no illusion that it's absolutely pissing down. We face the prospect of going to nunny with no first choice keeper and three injured CBs. We Will be five points a drift If they beat us Tuesday. I Understand budget constraints etc, but if players, as mentioned by the new manager have expressed an interest to come, get them here by Tuesday.Make no mistake this is DEFCON 1. A new low today.
If their isn't a disaster fund then maybe the club should consider a loan on the strength of potential funds being generated by the CSH
Something needs to happen and fkn fast before damage inflicted by NY becomes iretreviable
he would still be here if he hadn't resigned. The board had total confidence in him as they did Neil Tolson
What does that tell you?
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Can anyone think of our lower moment in our entire history? I can't.
Playing fortunes wise, this, Bernard's last league game, just before the 2-1 FA Cup exit at Guiseley?
http://www.lusaweb.co.uk/021008vs.htm (http://www.lusaweb.co.uk/021008vs.htm)
Graham Heathcote's appointment followed and a meeting held with supporters at Moss Lane:-
http://www.lusaweb.co.uk/alt0203f.htm (http://www.lusaweb.co.uk/alt0203f.htm)
However, given that this time last year we had just beaten Cheltenham and are not currently facing £700k debts it certainly feels a whole lot worse.
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If there is a "rainy day fund" then the club need to be under no illusion that it's absolutely pissing down. We face the prospect of going to nunny with no first choice keeper and three injured CBs. We Will be five points a drift If they beat us Tuesday. I Understand budget constraints etc, but if players, as mentioned by the new manager have expressed an interest to come, get them here by Tuesday.Make no mistake this is DEFCON 1. A new low today.
If their isn't a disaster fund then maybe the club should consider a loan on the strength of potential funds being generated by the CSH
Something needs to happen and fkn fast before damage inflicted by NY becomes iretreviable
he would still be here if he hadn't resigned. The board had total confidence in him as they did Neil Tolson
What does that tell you?
It tells me that the boards judgement is somewhat of kilter with the views of most of us on here. However, We have to give Harvey a fair chance to sort it with funds if necessary. I do believe he has the ability to sort it out and whatever anyone thinks of the board, we as fans most certainly have to get behind Jim Harvey and his team both current and future players.
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We're the only nonleague club to sell a player in to the premier league and get worse inside 24 months of it happening.. Maybe now is the time for a very public local ask for help. Isn't there a load of shares from The previous chairman that could be sold to a willing investor should he wish to part with them? We've got a manager with a plan, time to try and fund it.
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The board have got us in this mess so they really need to back Jim Harvey with the funds to get us out of it! The way things are currently we have a squad full of absolute dog sh*t and we're on a one way trip to Mickleover Sports and Rushall Olympic!!
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We're the only nonleague club to sell a player in to the premier league and get worse inside 24 months of it happening.. Maybe now is the time for a very public local ask for help. Isn't there a load of shares from The previous chairman that could be sold to a willing investor should he wish to part with them? We've got a manager with a plan, time to try and fund it.
yes there is, its those shares that are propping up the current board
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Didn't the board put up a load of shares for purchase, in order to raise some funds?
Perhaps all those who want change could snap up those shares and make a real difference?
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Its about Evolution not revolution.
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Didn't the board put up a load of shares for purchase, in order to raise some funds?
Perhaps all those who want change could snap up those shares and make a real difference?
why don't they put them all up to attract external investment
You can't expect the supporters to get them out of this mess
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Yes, god forbid we become a supporter owned club.
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Its about Evolution not revolution.
what does that actually mean?
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Its about Evolution not revolution.
what does that actually mean?
I understood it to mean that the club should evolve into a more progressive improved club with investment, rather than removing the current officialdom in a revolutionary get rid of the board manner.
That is how I interpreted it ( I may be wrong)... Pete is the best person to reply to your question.
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Yes, god forbid we become a supporter owned club.
I'm not being funny but watch the highlights and look at the last three goals we conceded. Is that really the Alty first team?
Anyone who went today I really feel like I should buy you a drink. Watching tHat must have broken your hearts. I've never seen us defend so pathetically.
You can berate Jamie all you like but find me another club in the world at this level that has allowed itself (and that is a very important point) to erode itself from good to bad in such quick time and I'll moderate their f**king forum.
What an absurd disgrace of a performance that was. I'd rather go to away games to ensure I'm not lining the pockets of a board who thinks that is ok for Altrincham FC. I may have only watched that on YouTube but I assure you if I see more of the same at Nunny I'll walk you out myself, patronising us fans to believe we were a bit harsh on the last manager?????
Some job Jim Harvey has now. After watching those highlights I'm genuinely worried about where we will play next season
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Can anyone think of our lower moment in our entire history? I can't.
Playing fortunes wise, this, Bernard's last league game, just before the 2-1 FA Cup exit at Guiseley?
http://www.lusaweb.co.uk/021008vs.htm (http://www.lusaweb.co.uk/021008vs.htm)
Graham Heathcote's appointment followed and a meeting held with supporters at Moss Lane:-
http://www.lusaweb.co.uk/alt0203f.htm (http://www.lusaweb.co.uk/alt0203f.htm)
However, given that this time last year we had just beaten Cheltenham and are not currently facing £700k debts it certainly feels a whole lot worse.
Well, I confess that I actually feel more depressed about our current situation on the pitch than I did during those admittedly dark days of 2002, as back then at least we simply had to accept that the club had been saddled with significant historic debts.
By contrast, in recent times we have sold a player to a Premier League club and keep being assured that the CSH is/will be a cash cow for the club.
It appears to me that the long-suffering supporters are presently being insulted by the team's continuing abject performances on the pitch and also off the pitch courtesy of the chairman's recent ill-judged statements.
As for that meeting back in 2002, it remains my favourite Alty fans forum of all time.
That well-informed "mystery businessman" tied Berman up in knots and induced a priceless flounce from our former chairman.
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Didn't the board put up a load of shares for purchase, in order to raise some funds?
Perhaps all those who want change could snap up those shares and make a real difference?
Unless there was another occasion recently and I am confusing the two (quite likely pal and apologies if I am) I thought the shares that were put up for sale by the board were to raise funds for the Community Project? A couple of thousand shares, put out at five times their actual value. While I am not suggesting there is anything wrong with the initiative (I bought some myself), it would be wrong to insinuate that it was a missed opportunity to drive significant investment into the football club itself, or that it offered the opportunity for actual change.
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Didn't the board put up a load of shares for purchase, in order to raise some funds?
Perhaps all those who want change could snap up those shares and make a real difference?
Unless there was another occasion recently and I am confusing the two (quite likely pal and apologies if I am) I thought the shares that were put up for sale by the board were to raise funds for the Community Project? A couple of thousand shares, put out at five times their actual value. While I am not suggesting there is anything wrong with the initiative (I bought some myself), it would be wrong to insinuate that it was a missed opportunity to drive significant investment into the football club itself, or that it offered the opportunity for actual change.
Matt does that mean your a shareholder of the community club or the football club?
Might explain why your not listed with companies house as a shareholder of the football club?
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That well-informed "mystery businessman" tied Berman up in knots and induced a priceless flounce from our former chairman.
Yes, he was something to do with a magazine/publishing company and was superb.
He was magnificent and it's one of my favourite forums too.
Berman must've shat it, if he knew all that, what else did he potentially know?
Marvellous.
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Didn't the board put up a load of shares for purchase, in order to raise some funds?
Perhaps all those who want change could snap up those shares and make a real difference?
Unless there was another occasion recently and I am confusing the two (quite likely pal and apologies if I am) I thought the shares that were put up for sale by the board were to raise funds for the Community Project? A couple of thousand shares, put out at five times their actual value. While I am not suggesting there is anything wrong with the initiative (I bought some myself), it would be wrong to insinuate that it was a missed opportunity to drive significant investment into the football club itself, or that it offered the opportunity for actual change.
Matt does that mean your a shareholder of the community club or the football club?
Might explain why your not listed with companies house as a shareholder of the football club?
Hi Barbara. The community club doesn't have shareholders.
It was a couple of years ago, but still I would imagine there is more to do on a day to day basis than updating miniscule shareholdings with companies house.
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It's not uncommon for companies house to need updating.
The clubs bank should ask it as part of a review but that may not necessarily be every year.