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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: robininstockport on January 20, 2023, 02:41:43 PM
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Been recalled by Stockport.
Grimsby have made a bid for Mullarkey (according to a rwitter account)
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Didn’t we recently announce that we were keeping him for another month?
I’m guessing we have done him and Stockport a favour to release him back early. Wouldn’t surprise me if we see some immediate other deals with Stockport! Good that we have a relationship with a team that are constantly looking to buy better players and we can utilise some of their fringe proven players at league level…. Next please.
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I’m sorry but the way we rely on loans will be detrimental to the club, we are now back where we were prior to Newby joining us, next CCC will be gone then we will be right up sh*t creek
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If Mullarkey goes I'm hoping we can go after Digie with the transfer fee
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Grimsby have made a bid for Mullarkey (according to a rwitter account)
Thought they were skint?
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I’m sorry but the way we rely on loans will be detrimental to the club, we are now back where we were prior to Newby joining us, next CCC will be gone then we will be right up sh*t creek
I respectfully disagree.
Utilising the loan market is probably the reason we have Josh Lundstram, Jake Cooper and Eddy Jones at the club as permanent employees.
You'll probably struggle to find someone that would rather have it that we passed on Chris Conn-Clarke at the start of the season.
Anyhow, I reckon we're probably getting someone in - at least I hope so.
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If Mullarkey goes I'm hoping we can go after Digie with the transfer fee
Shudder.
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I’m sorry but the way we rely on loans will be detrimental to the club, we are now back where we were prior to Newby joining us, next CCC will be gone then we will be right up sh*t creek
Completely disagree… we are where we are due to most of our loan signings or people who have come from loans. PP has always done a good job in this space, builds relationships with other clubs and individual players… I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t turn your nose up at 2 or 3 experienced league players on loan to take us to the next level.
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Didn’t we recently announce that we were keeping him for another month?
I’m guessing we have done him and Stockport a favour to release him back early. Wouldn’t surprise me if we see some immediate other deals with Stockport! Good that we have a relationship with a team that are constantly looking to buy better players and we can utilise some of their fringe proven players at league level…. Next please.
I’m not sure what’s good about this relationship with Stockport. They just recall Newby back on a whim and sell him to make themselves money and now the same with Jennings.
We’re basically their bitch and get 6 weeks of help and then are totally destabilised.
Not a relationship I want thanks.
I’d prefer an actual transfer strategy befitting a professional football club thanks.
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I’m sorry but the way we rely on loans will be detrimental to the club, we are now back where we were prior to Newby joining us, next CCC will be gone then we will be right up sh*t creek
Completely disagree… we are where we are due to most of our loan signings or people who have come from loans. PP has always done a good job in this space, builds relationships with other clubs and individual players… I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t turn your nose up at 2 or 3 experienced league players on loan to take us to the next level.
...or that young lad at Wrexham with something to prove.
Kicks the problem to the kerb until the summer, when we can have another real stab at it - given we should be largely fine in most other areas of the pitch (if we retain everyone).
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I’m sorry but the way we rely on loans will be detrimental to the club, we are now back where we were prior to Newby joining us, next CCC will be gone then we will be right up sh*t creek
Completely disagree… we are where we are due to most of our loan signings or people who have come from loans. PP has always done a good job in this space, builds relationships with other clubs and individual players… I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t turn your nose up at 2 or 3 experienced league players on loan to take us to the next level.
We are where we are because we retained a core squad of permanent, contracted players who were all pulling in the direction of promotion: Thompson, Densmore, Hampson, White, Hannigan, Jones, Mullarkey, Moult, Williams, Richman, Harrop, Hancock, Johnston, Hulme, Peers
This then got buy-in from the fans and togetherness was established.
Who actually are our core players now?
I must admit it's very hard work as a fan getting behind a side with vultures swooping around it and players being recalled at any point.
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There is some speculation on Twitter that Jennings is signing permanently for Halifax.
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Though our frequent forrays into the loan market have yielded some positive short term gains, it really isn't a sustainable way forward in the long term.
I look at clubs like Halifax. Similar size to us and not reliant at all on the loan market. We took 4 points from them but they will finish comfortably higher than us.
I know the transition to full time has been financially costly, but in order to continue to prosper, we do need a proper transfer strategy and a squad (allbeit a small one) of decently contracted players that are our own.
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Just another nail in the season coffin.
When we should be dreaming of wembley and a top half, finish, we're losing player after player.
Feels like a step back in previous years. Thought this board had just raised 500k
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I’m sorry but the way we rely on loans will be detrimental to the club, we are now back where we were prior to Newby joining us, next CCC will be gone then we will be right up sh*t creek
Completely disagree… we are where we are due to most of our loan signings or people who have come from loans. PP has always done a good job in this space, builds relationships with other clubs and individual players… I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t turn your nose up at 2 or 3 experienced league players on loan to take us to the next level.
We are where we are because we retained a core squad of permanent, contracted players who were all pulling in the direction of promotion: Thompson, Densmore, Hampson, White, Hannigan, Jones, Mullarkey, Moult, Williams, Richman, Harrop, Hancock, Johnston, Hulme, Peers
This then got buy-in from the fans and togetherness was established.
Who actually are our core players now?
I must admit it's very hard work as a fan getting behind a side with vultures swooping around it and players being recalled at any point.
These did not get us to where we are this season… my point being that without the loans and decisions made… we are flying and will continue to do so! Would I like them all to be permanent signings, of course I would! But we have to be realistic, if we want the best players available, we either need to loan and support their parent club or risk losing them to the highest bidder.
Whatever makes us stronger eh!
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If Mullarkey goes I'm hoping we can go after Digie with the transfer fee
Ferguson or Billy sass Davies
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There has been a 'rumour' that, whatever the wishes of Management or individual player, should a "suitably sized" bid be received, ANY player will be sold.
Interesting if correct
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I’m sorry but the way we rely on loans will be detrimental to the club, we are now back where we were prior to Newby joining us, next CCC will be gone then we will be right up sh*t creek
Completely disagree… we are where we are due to most of our loan signings or people who have come from loans. PP has always done a good job in this space, builds relationships with other clubs and individual players… I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t turn your nose up at 2 or 3 experienced league players on loan to take us to the next level.
We are where we are because we retained a core squad of permanent, contracted players who were all pulling in the direction of promotion: Thompson, Densmore, Hampson, White, Hannigan, Jones, Mullarkey, Moult, Williams, Richman, Harrop, Hancock, Johnston, Hulme, Peers
This then got buy-in from the fans and togetherness was established.
Who actually are our core players now?
I must admit it's very hard work as a fan getting behind a side with vultures swooping around it and players being recalled at any point.
These did not get us to where we are this season… my point being that without the loans and decisions made… we are flying and will continue to do so! Would I like them all to be permanent signings, of course I would! But we have to be realistic, if we want the best players available, we either need to loan and support their parent club or risk losing them to the highest bidder.
Whatever makes us stronger eh!
I take your point and I agree that the loan market is very important for us. But we're going to be in a position where the entire front four that powered our form are all going to be gone. It simply isn't sustainable to keep doing that.
Loans should always add to a squad, not build them. Hampson is a beautiful example. Came in on loan in 17/18, bought him outright, and became part of a tightnit group giving us over 100 appearances. Fantastic business.
It's crucial that the likes of Byrne, Marriott, Lundstram, Baines, E & J Jones, and Mullarkey are here for the long haul and we keep adding to them with more permanent quality. Or we're going to be constantly rebuilding.
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There has been a 'rumour' that, whatever the wishes of Management or individual player, should a "suitably sized" bid be received, ANY player will be sold.
Interesting if correct
This is of course true as it is at every club.
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I think it's reasonable to suggest that an above-average utilisation of the loan market was to be expected with our biggest transition in history.
It will be reduced next season.
In the meantime, more loan signings please :)
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If Mullarkey goes I'm hoping we can go after Digie with the transfer fee
Ferguson or Billy sass Davies
Now that Lewis Baines is a bit more established, I reckon Jake Cooper has the potential to step into the right hand berth from next season onwards.
He needs a loan in this division though.
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If Mullarkey goes I'm hoping we can go after Digie with the transfer fee
Ferguson or Billy sass Davies
Now that Lewis Baines is a bit more established, I reckon Jake Cooper has the potential to step into the right hand berth from next season onwards.
He needs a loan in this division though.
Does anyone know what's going on with Cooper? Is he injured? He's barely featured in a matchday squad for a while now and we had a youth defender on the bench for the Wrexham Trophy game, which made me think he must either be injured or severely out of favour.
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Some Grade A moaning going on in here today! Even more than normal…..which is quite an achievement. An outsider wouldn’t believe we are in our strongest League position for years, in a good position to reach the 1/4 Final of the Trophy, transitioned successfully to a full time model, in a current unbeaten 10 game run….as well as being financially sound (particularly in the current cost of living ‘crisis’ — see Southend/Sc*nthorpe).
Ok - we’ve sold a top player and some loans have gone back to their parent Clubs….it’s football! I prefer to trust the Management Team that got us here in the first place,instead of all the doom and gloom merchants in here, to sort out the players we may need in as replacements.
Honestly guys, give your heads a wobble!
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Some Grade A moaning going on in here today! Even more than normal…..which is quite an achievement. An outsider wouldn’t believe we are in our strongest League position for years, in a good position to reach the 1/4 Final of the Trophy, transitioned successfully to a full time model, in a current unbeaten 10 game run….as well as being financially sound (particularly in the current cost of living ‘crisis’ — see Southend/Sc*nthorpe).
Ok - we’ve sold a top player and some loans have gone back to their parent Clubs….it’s football! I prefer to trust the Management Team that got us here in the first place,instead of all the doom and gloom merchants in here, to sort out the players we may need in as replacements.
Honestly guys, give your heads a wobble!
We've lost 3 and soon to be 4 of of front line, going back to a weaker sqaud than the one we had during 10 games without a win... I'd say thats definitely cause for concern.
In particular, when weve done so well, and so financially well off (500k seeder, more board incestment6than I've ever seen, 50k+ for Coclough)
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Some Grade A moaning going on in here today! Even more than normal…..which is quite an achievement. An outsider wouldn’t believe we are in our strongest League position for years, in a good position to reach the 1/4 Final of the Trophy, transitioned successfully to a full time model, in a current unbeaten 10 game run….as well as being financially sound (particularly in the current cost of living ‘crisis’ — see Southend/Sc*nthorpe).
Ok - we’ve sold a top player and some loans have gone back to their parent Clubs….it’s football! I prefer to trust the Management Team that got us here in the first place,instead of all the doom and gloom merchants in here, to sort out the players we may need in as replacements.
Honestly guys, give your heads a wobble!
We've lost 3 and soon to be 4 of of front line, going back to a weaker sqaud than the one we had during 10 games without a win... I'd say thats definitely cause for concern.
In particular, when weve done so well, and so financially well off (500k seeder, more board incestment6than I've ever seen, 50k+ for Coclough)
In fairness, I don't think anyone should think for one second that the club is sitting on half a million of cash and twiddling it's thumbs. It's clear that they run a tight ship budget wise and that money is probably earmarked for different things short and long term which will include players.
If we are developing players, selling them for a good profit and putting the money back in to strengthen things on and off the pitch then surely that's a good thing? Playing the loan market shrewdly too is part of parcel of the modern game as others have said.
The management can bring in Johnston, Colclough, Jones, Smith, Mullarkey etc so surely we can have faith in them to get it right again. A bit of patience and perspective is needed and it's a nice problem in some ways.
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Didn’t we recently announce that we were keeping him for another month?
I’m guessing we have done him and Stockport a favour to release him back early. Wouldn’t surprise me if we see some immediate other deals with Stockport! Good that we have a relationship with a team that are constantly looking to buy better players and we can utilise some of their fringe proven players at league level…. Next please.
I’m not sure what’s good about this relationship with Stockport. They just recall Newby back on a whim and sell him to make themselves money and now the same with Jennings.
We’re basically their bitch and get 6 weeks of help and then are totally destabilised.
Not a relationship I want thanks.
I’d prefer an actual transfer strategy befitting a professional football club thanks.
Totally agree Gareth
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Without a sugar daddy we will be a selling club.
We have sound financial backing, but it is the nature of a club like ours is that - as a f/t club at the lowest level we will be selling plauers and relying on loans to fill the gaps.
lets face it - we have had some decent loanees, which have lead to some decent buys!
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Staggered Jennings has signed for another club.
Assumed that was why County recalled him!
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He was on Stockport bench on Tuesday night.
Who has he signed for?
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Sorry , meant not signed for anyone
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Maybe they felt we'd make some sort of offer for him, but the offer never materialised. To be honest, I really feel we can do better than a probably highly paid striker at the end of his career.
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I'd be happy enough to sign Jennings, but it would be a one-year deal and reflect his status as backup to a top striker who will hopefully be on his way soon.
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I thought hed gone as we'd only offer any sort of deal until end of season, and quite rightly
So assumed some club had offered a longer deal. All of my thoughts have come from myself
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I'd be happy enough to sign Jennings, but it would be a one-year deal and reflect his status as backup to a top striker who will hopefully be on his way soon.
Marple, we'll be in dreamland if can poach a top striker that we need, very rare commodity and we don't offer the Wonga to pay for one unfortunately, so we'll need a bit of luck like when Colin approached us or Ryan came along. I'm sure Parky and Sorvs have targets but struggling to get over the line. Many players would rather warm a bench than play most games but earn less money....
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Rocks up at Hartlepool:
https://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/news/2023/january/pools-sign-connor-jennings/ (https://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/news/2023/january/pools-sign-connor-jennings/)
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Rocks up at Hartlepool:
https://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/news/2023/january/pools-sign-connor-jennings/ (https://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/news/2023/january/pools-sign-connor-jennings/)
Might be back in the National League next season - which is definitely his level. Good luck to him.
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He’s done well to blag that.
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One of Jennings or Mullarkey or quite possibly both will definitely be back at ours for a League game next season.