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Title: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on February 21, 2018, 07:12:12 PM
Looks like a fully fit squad to choose from. Only change I can see is Johnson for Peers.

Tough game on what I hear is a midden.

Ashton 1-2 Alty. Hancock Hulme.

Attn 300 (150 Alty)
Title: Re: Aston Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on February 21, 2018, 08:58:52 PM
I'm Ashtonished you've  got the thread title wrong......
Title: Re: Aston Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on February 21, 2018, 08:59:56 PM
Reproductive text did fir me
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on February 21, 2018, 09:37:47 PM
We’ll have 150 there as a minimum I’d have thought.

2-2
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: JTH on February 21, 2018, 09:44:22 PM
150 Alty fans at Ashton will be appalling bordering on the farcical.
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on February 21, 2018, 10:01:40 PM
Ashton 2/1
Draw 11/4
Alty 11/10

You can double that 150 Away following it’s so near, and a rare Saturday fixture
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on February 21, 2018, 10:05:50 PM
They rarely lose at home & pitch will be a pudding I imagine, wouldn’t be surprised if this was a low scoring draw.

Attendance of 450 with us taking 250 of that number.
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on February 22, 2018, 08:20:56 AM
Their pitch didn't actually look that bad when they played Stourbridge a few weeks ago in the midst of all the bad weather we were having. Not that either team played it on the deck as much as us.
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on February 22, 2018, 09:39:53 AM
We were streets ahead of Ashton the other week, regardless of the final scoreline. We need to keep winning games whilst we have this gap. The sooner we get it boxed off the better, no let up and no complacency until it’s done. Grantham and Warrington face off next Tuesday night, and Warrington go to hednesford on Saturday. Winning these next two games it could put us well clear
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on February 22, 2018, 10:30:48 AM
Can see us taking 300+, looking forward to it.

Will frost be an issue?
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on February 22, 2018, 10:54:52 AM
Can see us taking 300+, looking forward to it.

Will frost be an issue?

Nope, he plays for droylsden now
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on February 22, 2018, 12:34:44 PM
Can see us taking 300+, looking forward to it.

Will frost be an issue?

Nope, he plays for droylsden now
I'm more concerned with Lees on the line......
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: Cider Alty on February 22, 2018, 04:31:04 PM
Nice little ground. Like a mini-version of Moss Lane.
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: anglo alty on February 23, 2018, 12:59:43 PM
 hopefully the pitch won't be to bad a few days dry weather this week could help
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on February 23, 2018, 04:47:20 PM
Ashton will be fine but the Stourbridge game on Tuesday night is definitely more touch and go. Due to be below freezing by KO.
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on February 23, 2018, 08:48:33 PM
Of note for punting fans is we’ve come in even further on the outright betting for the league title, Alty now at 2/7 on and the AQUAFORCE out to 5/1 now. Tomorrow will be another big step.
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on February 23, 2018, 08:58:56 PM
You can still get 4/9 on Skybet
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: Alty5678 on February 23, 2018, 09:32:28 PM
You can still get 4/9 on Skybet

Looks like Skybet haven't realised Shaw Lane have had the points deduction, they're still 9/4
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on February 24, 2018, 06:47:44 PM
6:40pm and no comments on todays game!

The pitch played much worse than it looked and probably had a lot to do with Chalmers injury. I wish him a speedy recovery.

All things considered we were not good enough today. Aside from the Johnson superb team goal we were  slow, sloppy and full of wrong decisions. Their freekick was the killer, probably not a foul but neither was our pen.

Not overly impressed with White or Hancock.

Draw was a fair result. How there was so little time added in both halves sums up the officials
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: Stan Hibbert on February 24, 2018, 06:51:36 PM
6:40pm and no comments on todays game!

The pitch played much worse than it looked and probably had a lot to do with Chalmers injury. I wish him a speedy recovery.

All things considered we were not good enough today. Aside from the Johnson superb team goal we were  slow, sloppy and full of wrong decisions. Their freekick was the killer, probably not a foul but neither was our pen.

Not overly impressed with White or Hancock.

Draw was a fair result. How there was so little time added in both halves sums up the officials

Pretty much sums it up.

I’d like to add that PP chopping and changing things, like he did when we nearly blew it against Ashton earlier in the month, cost us 3 points too in my opinion.

A draw was a fair result though.
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on February 24, 2018, 07:00:27 PM
Must admit don't know why he brought Harrop off.

Any idea why their goalkeeper coach was clapping and laughing at us at the end?
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on February 24, 2018, 07:04:57 PM
crowd of 546 how many Alty roughyl ?
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: louise1925 on February 24, 2018, 07:06:22 PM
The experience and quality offered by Dens and Hannigan is a big miss for us. Hopefully both back in the team ASAP.
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: Stan Hibbert on February 24, 2018, 07:20:31 PM
crowd of 546 how many Alty roughyl ?
Difficult to say when we were all spread out but we were certainly the majority
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on February 24, 2018, 07:22:32 PM
The experience and quality offered by Dens and Hannigan is a big miss for us. Hopefully both back in the team ASAP.

Can't see Hannigan playing left wing
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: roytonmike on February 24, 2018, 07:32:43 PM
When we played them at our place questionable substitutions were made & we conceded two goals. Today the same thing happened. Granted, Hancock had been pretty anonymous - but the management clearly see something in Mason Walsh that I for one don't. To my mind he isn't able to retain the ball & doesn't cover back enough. Bringing Richman on to add competitiveness in midfield made sense to me, though whether at the expense of Harrop might be debated, but I find it hard to defend the introduction of Walsh. Peers, for all his shortcomings, would have done a better job. That said, Ashton deserved to get something out of the game in my opinion and a draw away against a side in the top five who've taken 20 points from their last 8 home league games is hardly a disaster. I note in passing that today was their best home gate of the season, more than double their previous best, & I'll be interested to see how many they get for the Tameside derby on Tuesday (weather permitting of course).
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: Birkonian on February 24, 2018, 07:34:15 PM
The experience and quality offered by Dens and Hannigan is a big miss for us. Hopefully both back in the team ASAP.

Can't see Hannigan playing left wing

He played in every outfield position for Vauxhall Motors in the Conference North.
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on February 24, 2018, 08:11:56 PM
The experience and quality offered by Dens and Hannigan is a big miss for us. Hopefully both back in the team ASAP.

Can't see Hannigan playing left wing

He played in every outfield position for Vauxhall Motors in the Conference North.

Staying fit would be a bonus before we think about playing him out of position!
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: Nasha on February 24, 2018, 08:12:53 PM
Draw fair result. 1st half we seemed to be controlling the game without really creating much, and never really got going 2nd half.

After the best ref we had all season last week, this one was up there as one of the worst I've seen, and I'm never one to usually have a go at refs. Our penalty was never one, the free kick for their 2nd was never one, and I don't think I've ever seen the full time whistle blown when the ball has gone out for a corner. You always see if they have gone past the allocated time that they allow the final passage of attacking play to be completed.

4 points against a top 5 side is good for me. Same return from the 2 games against Shaw Lane should see us further strengthen our position, and dare I say it one hand on the trophy.
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on February 24, 2018, 09:27:01 PM
Have to agree with most of the above. But Walsh wasn't any more useless than Hancock, who seems to have lost a bit of edge since Christmas.

However, I just don't see White as an asset - a fit Densmore at RB and I believe we might well have taken the points. White is admittedly left-sided and therefore playing out of position, but his distribution is poor, and he's not quick to recover when he loses position.

From the start of the second half, we were as poor as I've seen us this season. Then we scored twice very quickly.  If we are to win this league, we absolutely MUST hold on to situations like that.

I was really frustrated by their second goal, as it was pretty well the same free kick the guy buried at Moss Lane, yet we were still unable to set up correctly to deal with it.

I said before kick off that I thought a high scoring draw was on the cards, and that it wouldn't be a bad point, but from 3-1 up I should have been proved wrong.
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: bighairedmike on February 24, 2018, 11:03:46 PM
Have to agree with most of the above. But Walsh wasn't any more useless than Hancock, who seems to have lost a bit of edge since Christmas.

However, I just don't see White as an asset - a fit Densmore at RB and I believe we might well have taken the points. White is admittedly left-sided and therefore playing out of position, but his distribution is poor, and he's not quick to recover when he loses position.

From the start of the second half, we were as poor as I've seen us this season. Then we scored twice very quickly.  If we are to win this league, we absolutely MUST hold on to situations like that.

I was really frustrated by their second goal, as it was pretty well the same free kick the guy buried at Moss Lane, yet we were still unable to set up correctly to deal with it.

I said before kick off that I thought a high scoring draw was on the cards, and that it wouldn't be a bad point, but from 3-1 up I should have been proved wrong.

I think we’ve played three games against them and our aggregate score is 9-7 . This was never going to be a walkover, never mind how good we are/should be.


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Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: MadFrankie on February 24, 2018, 11:52:49 PM
crowd of 546 how many Alty roughyl ?
When they scored there seemed to be about 50 people who were remotely bothered. Rather weirdly, the 100 or so people on their pop side didn't appear to react to any of the goals. Maybe they get a lot of neutrals at Ashton.
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: blackpoolalty on February 25, 2018, 07:52:56 AM
Must admit don't know why he brought Harrop off.

Any idea why their goalkeeper coach was clapping and laughing at us at the end?

If it was Paul Phillips it wouldn’t surprise me, guys a complete kn*b jockey
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on February 25, 2018, 08:38:07 AM
crowd of 546 how many Alty roughyl ?
When they scored there seemed to be about 50 people who were remotely bothered. Rather weirdly, the 100 or so people on their pop side didn't appear to react to any of the goals. Maybe they get a lot of neutrals at Ashton.
There were a few who'd turned up because Oldham's match was off.
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: Toff Apple on February 25, 2018, 09:39:37 AM
I hate looking at this forum when we dont win by miles, goes to show how far we have come but a draw away at a team who dont lose at home and are in the top 5 is decent.  Some quality defenders in the ashton team so not concerned,  walsh and hancock were about the same and i think richman came on for harrop to shore up the middle.
Ok so shaw lane and warrington won, neither of those will be getting many points away at ashton.
Keep calm still on course
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on February 25, 2018, 10:06:50 AM
I hate looking at this forum when we dont win by miles, goes to show how far we have come but a draw away at a team who dont lose at home and are in the top 5 is decent.  Some quality defenders in the ashton team so not concerned,  walsh and hancock were about the same and i think richman came on for harrop to shore up the middle.
Ok so shaw lane and warrington won, neither of those will be getting many points away at ashton.
Keep calm still on course


Shaw Lane drew 3-3 and Warrington lost 2-0 at Ashton.
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on February 25, 2018, 10:20:18 AM
Good to see some old faces watching the Robins yesterday

Very disappointing to concede that late and drop 2 points.

Need to step it up if we are to beat Shaw Lane
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: Matt Taylor on February 25, 2018, 12:49:38 PM
I hate looking at this forum when we dont win by miles, goes to show how far we have come but a draw away at a team who dont lose at home and are in the top 5 is decent.  Some quality defenders in the ashton team so not concerned,  walsh and hancock were about the same and i think richman came on for harrop to shore up the middle.
Ok so shaw lane and warrington won, neither of those will be getting many points away at ashton.
Keep calm still on course


Isn’t that a little over the top? No one has said anything that dramatic have they? I think supporters should probably be allowed to discuss and question why we’ve been leading 3-1 with 20 mins to go, in any game (at any level), that we haven’t gone on to win.

Yesterday never felt like we were on course to win 4-0, but I didn’t think for a minute that we weren’t going to win the game during the first 70 mins. But these things happen.

A draw at Ashton isn’t the end of the world. And we’ll still win the league by a distance.

Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: JTH on February 25, 2018, 01:44:06 PM
I just didn't think we passed the ball very well at all second half, the obvious exception being JJ's goal which was magnificently out of place. As has been said above it can't be a co-incidence our defensive record is far superior with Hannigan in the team. It's not an out and out criticism of Jones I just think he forms a more solid partnership with Harrison and Dens is simply a better player than White on performances thus far anyway. So the sooner those two return the better for me. Sure losing a two goal lead is a niggle but one defeat in 23 games is championship form and if picking up a point at a side which has lost once in 16 (against us) is seen as a blip - I'll take it.
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: GB Alty on February 25, 2018, 05:40:31 PM
We seem to be conceding a lot of late goals recently, wondering if the lads are fit enough?
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on February 25, 2018, 05:45:46 PM
Like virtually every team at this level (some might argue at any level), we are dependent on our first choice players being fit and available. Without them, we are vulnerable. Luck will play a big part in the run in.
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: Toff Apple on February 25, 2018, 06:05:47 PM
I hate looking at this forum when we dont win by miles, goes to show how far we have come but a draw away at a team who dont lose at home and are in the top 5 is decent.  Some quality defenders in the ashton team so not concerned,  walsh and hancock were about the same and i think richman came on for harrop to shore up the middle.
Ok so shaw lane and warrington won, neither of those will be getting many points away at ashton.
Keep calm still on course


Isn’t that a little over the top? No one has said anything that dramatic have they? I think supporters should probably be allowed to discuss and question why we’ve been leading 3-1 with 20 mins to go, in any game (at any level), that we haven’t gone on to win.

Yesterday never felt like we were on course to win 4-0, but I didn’t think for a minute that we weren’t going to win the game during the first 70 mins. But these things happen.

A draw at Ashton isn’t the end of the world. And we’ll still win the league by a distance.


Yep fair enough, i think the criticism of pp subs above is over the top but agree with you, just wanted to reassert my belief that ashton are a pretty good team
Title: Re: Ashton Match Thread
Post by: Happy clapper on February 25, 2018, 09:41:06 PM
We seem to be conceding a lot of late goals recently, wondering if the lads are fit enough?


I think its more to do with hannigan being out.