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Title: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Alty Dave on March 19, 2024, 09:21:27 AM
With Regan available, would you change a winning team? I would be tempted with

           Ross

Donowa Cooper Baines Jones

     Osbourne  Wilson

    Amaluzor CCC Newby
 
         Linney

Harsh on Kosylo. Bench would be, Kosylo, Angus, Mooney, Roscoe and Hancox

Huge 6 pointer.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 19, 2024, 10:34:20 AM
Yes. Like most of the next games coming up, this is a real biggy. That team can win it for us. Strong bench as well.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: oneedham on March 19, 2024, 07:34:22 PM

                Ross

Donowa Cooper Baines Jones

         Osborne  Wilson

   Amaluzor CCC  Kossy
 
                Linney

Big Newby fan when he is on it, just feel we need Kossy’s determination and aggression for this one ( obviously get him straight off on a yellow ).


Subs : Banks, Roscoe, Hancox, Mooney and Newby
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 19, 2024, 09:00:41 PM
Is Banks fit again and available?
(not necessarily saying I'd pick him ahead of Donawa though actually)
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: robininstockport on March 19, 2024, 09:55:26 PM
Id have Banks in at rb but aside from that i agree with op.


Alty 2-1 Rochdale (Linney x2)
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 19, 2024, 10:06:38 PM


Alty 2-1 Rochdale (Linney x2)

I'll go for 3-0 😉😂
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Alty Bri on March 20, 2024, 06:22:57 AM
I would probably start with Banks and Newby over Donowa and Kossy, but to be honest there is not a lot in it.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 20, 2024, 08:26:20 AM
Newby over Kosylo in any scenario for me.

Yes, Kossy brings fight - but Alex Newby's ball control, retention and decision making all superior.

Too many loose passes from Kossy - he often gets booked lunging in after heavy touches too.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 20, 2024, 12:41:25 PM
See Halifax are at home today to Chesterfield. Points for the Spireites would cement the title and, more importantly, mean Halifax don't overtake us. A win for us at the weekend would then really enhance our play off prospects.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: robininstockport on March 20, 2024, 02:45:42 PM
Just seen a picture of The Shay. Be a miracle if its on.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 20, 2024, 03:20:38 PM
Just seen a picture of The Shay. Be a miracle if its on.

As much as we thought our pitch would end up derailing our own promotion hopes... surely theirs is going to really hamper them? - it looks dreadful.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Altyrocket on March 20, 2024, 05:17:03 PM
Game on at the Shay according to Halifax main site
 I
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on March 20, 2024, 07:57:10 PM
Game on at the Shay according to Halifax main site
 I
The pitch just cost them the lead. like treacle.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 20, 2024, 09:14:56 PM
Well, it looks like Spireites might be waiting a bit longer...
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 20, 2024, 09:20:02 PM
And we're down to 7th.
We really need to win on Saturday don't we?
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on March 20, 2024, 10:06:03 PM
And we're down to 7th.
We really need to win on Saturday don't we?

We definitely need to beat Gateshead and Oldham after tonight’s result.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Alty Bri on March 20, 2024, 11:22:53 PM
We'll be okay if we beat Gateshead.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Mick on March 21, 2024, 10:13:40 AM
Wonder if Halifax would struggle with their issues with Calderdale on the ground ownership
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 21, 2024, 11:59:38 AM
And we're down to 7th.
We really need to win on Saturday don't we?

We definitely need to beat Gateshead and Oldham after tonight’s result.

Avoiding defeat is the first priority - I think we'll be OK as long as we do that.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on March 21, 2024, 12:33:30 PM
I think the time has finally arrived when we show our true pedigree. The team we fielded at Boreham Wood plus Linney back is solid play off material.
Six points from Gateshead and Oldham is not fanciful and that must be the teams mindset.
Any contenders at this late stage of the campaign who grasp the games by the throat will reap the benefits.
It's not just the six points we get. We give two competitors setbacks too and give a clear signal of intent to one and all.
We can do this. We're good enough.


Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Steve from Sale on March 21, 2024, 12:43:32 PM
To be honest, if we do finish in the playoff spots at the end of the season, I quite fancy us to do well.

Phil and most of the team have a fair bit of experience in the playoffs but we just have to finish in the top 7, That will be harder than dealing with the playoff matches I think.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Alty Bri on March 21, 2024, 01:08:52 PM
I agree Steve. Reaching the play offs will be more difficult than actually doing well in them.

The logic is, most of us thought the play offs were guaranteed until quite recently so there's real pressure to get there. I don't think many of us expect to win the play offs, so the pressure will be off if we are in them.

Beat Gateshead and we can begin to dream.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 21, 2024, 01:22:03 PM
Beat Gateshead and we can begin to dream.

I've been dreaming for about 59 years now! 😂😂
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 21, 2024, 01:45:11 PM
I wonder how Banks and Cooper are getting on...

You know we've turned into Big Time Charlies when we're pulling our players out of international duty!

If Banks is available and Cooper isn't, I think I'd rather Banks played at centre back than have two lefties which doesn't sit right with me (although I know that's how we finished the York game).
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 21, 2024, 02:06:06 PM
Beat Gateshead and we can begin to dream.

I've been dreaming for about 59 years now! 😂😂

Plus I've seen us at Wembley three times and I'd like to make it four! 😉
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 23, 2024, 05:07:03 PM
A good contest between two decent sides in challenging conditions, which they ultimately handled better in the end.

They weren't afraid to go Route One when they needed to go and win the game.

We don't have enough ability to win ugly and need to wise up a bit.

Linney should have been on when we had the wind - and putting your best player as far away from the action as possible is insane.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on March 23, 2024, 05:42:50 PM
I got the message today that we aren't ready to up yet. Half time well worth the lead but Gateshead won the second half by a distance. We scored two good goals.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: TheGolfRoadView on March 23, 2024, 06:06:20 PM
Thought we played some good stuff at times in the first half and the miss from Donowa obviously proved crucial near half time. To be fair to Gateshead, thought they gradually got into the game more as the 1st half went on. 2nd half great finish by Mooney, but apart from the header from CCC, didn't think we created much else. Their 2nd and 3rd goals didn't look great defencively from the Golf Road, but maybe the highlights will show differently. On a negative note disappointing to hear someone say there was the fighting outside the ground after the game. Apparently there were a group of about 30 Gateshead fans hanging around waiting for their coach, couple of Alty fans responded to their chants, I guess they should have just kept quiet, but then some Gateshead fans attacked them. Hope they are ok.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: robininstockport on March 23, 2024, 06:32:12 PM
good for 30 mins poor for 60.

whoever thinks donawa should start over banks needs a new hobby

wherever we finish will be an improvement on last season.

don't fancy a wednesday night in barnet tbh
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on March 23, 2024, 07:13:28 PM
We are far too one dimensional we have nowhere to go when things are not working. Today saw the end of our challenge to get promoted..

We are not a bad team but we do not have the depth of squad or quality of players to advance to the next level this season. Maybe next season. Gateshead Number 12 was by far the best player on the pitch…
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: AltyNotFaulty on March 23, 2024, 07:54:16 PM
CCC should of played today…
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Randy Konk on March 23, 2024, 07:57:29 PM
They were good. No mistake.
I thought their number 14 was impressive and they deserved to win.
We absolutely need to find a how to retrieve a game when we go behind.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: jhcorbett on March 23, 2024, 08:06:04 PM
Game of 2 halves, Donowa spurned a great chance to put us 2-0 up before HT, then Gateshead much improved after the break. As in some other games recently, we've started the 2nd half weakly and never been good enough to recover control of the game. Might be a midfield issue, or just that when have a bit of a patched up side, we're not quite good enough to beat other play-off contenders this season.

Shame the superb goal from Dan Mooney was ultimately in a losing cause today.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: oneedham on March 23, 2024, 08:46:48 PM
I was in agreement to play CCC as a false 9 whilst Linney was banned, but CCC needed to be number 10 today, especially when they were winning the midfield battle.

We need Linney and CCC to be starting in all the remaining games. Game management wasn’t great again. Had the opportunity to bring Linney on at HT today, could have then put CCC into 10 and Kossy out wide. Albeit, Mooney did well.

Yet again the impact sub was far too late, giving Linney 20 mins in a stop / start game was poor. Takes players 10 mins to get warm and up to speed. Hardly touched the ball.

They got to grips with Newby for the second half, after he was causing them issues in the first.

I am hoping Amulazor’s injury is not his groin again, we really need him.

The first game when we really missed Marriott. Osborne has dropped off recently, he isn’t controlling games, as he was doing. They have far more desire in the 2nd.Anyone have an update on Marriott’s
injury?

We showed a lack of fight and character second half. How bad are we at set pieces? we need players who want to win the ball in the opposition box. Would be a good start if we got more players in there, far too soft and cautious on all set pieces.

Disappointing.

Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: oneedham on March 23, 2024, 08:49:23 PM
good for 30 mins poor for 60.

whoever thinks donawa should start over banks needs a new hobby

wherever we finish will be an improvement on last season.

don't fancy a wednesday night in barnet tbh

Thought Banks had a stinker second half mate. Was beat time after time, but he was on his weaker side. Hancox can play left back, might have been a better option today.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: AltyRobin on March 23, 2024, 09:26:34 PM
Eddie Jones was a HUGE miss today. Don’t understand why we didn’t play with a striker either. Gateshead looked hungry and we looked like we couldn’t be arsed.

We are steadily improving but we need to keep hold of our top players CCC, Ross, Baines, Cooper, Linney and Eddie Jones in the summer
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Mick on March 24, 2024, 01:01:17 AM
Is it me....or do we need to stop these 'showcase' games...being cynical now but every time we get the town down to watch us....we screw it up.

Apart from the wonder goal from Mooney, their keeper could have sat in a deckchair second half
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: b23 on March 24, 2024, 01:18:36 AM
We really do have problem with winning "big"games. It really needs addressing . Something us seriously wrong    Is it the management? If not, who??It is becoming embarrassing  when we  push forward then get big crowds and never  deliver. Answrrs please???
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 24, 2024, 07:49:46 AM
good for 30 mins poor for 60.

whoever thinks donawa should start over banks needs a new hobby

wherever we finish will be an improvement on last season.

don't fancy a wednesday night in barnet tbh

Thought Banks had a stinker second half mate. Was beat time after time, but he was on his weaker side. Hancox can play left back, might have been a better option today.

You've just made an excellent point that completely passed me by... why wasn't Hancox started at left back?

I do scratch my head sometimes at how we seemingly decide not to take simple selection decisions, like starting our only centre forward.

Even without Regan Linney, Justin Amaluzor would have caused much more havoc in a swirling wind than CCC (before he was withdrawn), this stuff is simple.

Do we need more Kevin Hulme / Eddie Hussin / Val Owen types? - too many of our players weigh about 6 stone wet through and just lack a bit of calming presence.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on March 24, 2024, 04:07:34 PM
We really do have problem with winning "big"games. It really needs addressing . Something us seriously wrong    Is it the management? If not, who??It is becoming embarrassing  when we  push forward then get big crowds and never  deliver. Answrrs please???
We aren't a premier league club and work within budget restrictions. We aren't going to go into the red throwing money at any problems we have and then cry we're going bust. I understand the frustration to make progress faster but we aren't playing football manager we're in the real world.I don't know if there will be a day when the present management can't take us any further. I don't believe we're anywhere near to that scenario anytime soon. Keep the faith.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Alty Bri on March 24, 2024, 04:10:59 PM
I've said it before but we have a really good first 11. Any injuries e.g. to Isaac and Eddie leaves us very short. We're a good side and we are progressing. Next year will be better.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 24, 2024, 04:58:29 PM
I've said it before but we have a really good first 11. Any injuries e.g. to Isaac and Eddie leaves us very short. We're a good side and we are progressing. Next year will be better.

I truly believe that. That'll do for me as we're on the right track and improving steadily.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Steve from Sale on March 24, 2024, 05:50:17 PM
Regarding the earlier posting of trouble outside the ground, my foster daughter who is 11 showed me a video she had found of an Altrincham fan being beaten up and kicked by about 10 Gateshead fans, he was curled up on the floor. She deleted it in disgust but was upset as it was one of our supporters being beaten. I have asked her today if she still had it as I wanted to send it to the club, and get them to tackle Gateshead about it and identify some of their fans. However, she did say she had deleted it and it only appeared momentarily, but she did show it to me. It was actually outside the main front door of the main stand.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Alty Bri on March 24, 2024, 06:23:18 PM
I've said it before but we have a really good first 11. Any injuries e.g. to Isaac and Eddie leaves us very short. We're a good side and we are progressing. Next year will be better.

I truly believe that. That'll do for me as we're on the right track and improving steadily.

Last year, we needed to avoid dependency on loanees. We have managed that. Now we need 16 players who could fit seemlessly into the first 11 in the event of injuries and suspensions. Not easily done.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on March 24, 2024, 07:28:21 PM


Aside from the opening 30 minutes or so, I thought that Gateshead were the better team and ultimately deserved their victory.

We really struggled to get going in that second half and our defending was well below its customary standard this season. Two uncharacteristically poor headers by Jake Cooper which teed up their second and third goals.

Superb strike from Dan Mooney, but their debutant in goal largely had very little to do. The introduction of Linney for Kosylo came far too late, to my mind.

What troubles me is that Gateshead exhibited far more facets to their game overall. Yes, we are fully aware that they can play it out from the back and always have good technical players in midfield who can pass the ball around nicely, but they were also not afraid to be more direct (as demonstrated by their first goal).

We rarely take the opportunity to put a speculative cross into the opposition penalty area, after which we might profit from a defensive error. I can't help but feel that on too many occasions we overelaborate and appear to be on a mystical quest to score the 'perfect' goal.

Ironically, Alex Newby's goal did result from an enforced 'route one' punt from Ethan Ross, which their defender duly made a complete hash of.

I thought that the booing of Dinanga when he was being substituted was rather uncalled for. If he scores the winning goal for Gateshead in their forthcoming FA Trophy Semi-Final against Macc, I will consider crowdfunding for a statue of him to be erected on George Street.

Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Alty Dave on March 25, 2024, 09:34:20 AM


Aside from the opening 30 minutes or so, I thought that Gateshead were the better team and ultimately deserved their victory.

We really struggled to get going in that second half and our defending was well below its customary standard this season. Two uncharacteristically poor headers by Jake Cooper which teed up their second and third goals.

Superb strike from Dan Mooney, but their debutant in goal largely had very little to do. The introduction of Linney for Kosylo came far too late, to my mind.

What troubles me is that Gateshead exhibited far more facets to their game overall. Yes, we are fully aware that they can play it out from the back and always have good technical players in midfield who can pass the ball around nicely, but they were also not afraid to be more direct (as demonstrated by their first goal).

We rarely take the opportunity to put a speculative cross into the opposition penalty area, after which we might profit from a defensive error. I can't help but feel that on too many occasions we overelaborate and appear to be on a mystical quest to score the 'perfect' goal.

Ironically, Alex Newby's goal did result from an enforced 'route one' punt from Ethan Ross, which their defender duly made a complete hash of.

I thought that the booing of Dinanga when he was being substituted was rather uncalled for. If he scores the winning goal for Gateshead in their forthcoming FA Trophy Semi-Final against Macc, I will consider crowdfunding for a statue of him to be erected on George Street.

Good points, you miss the effect of the wind, that alone was worth a goal or more per half, they used it better than us, Baines for there first was done by the wind for the cross, then Cooper twice could not clear the ball as he headed upwards the ball stalled and 2 goals on a plate. We really need to learn from this, header need to go to the side or for a corner. For there third we never marked the goal scorer who just came on.

Massive game v Weaalstonr now. A must win.. Hopfully Eddie will be back. We miss marriott, Eliiott was overloaded on saturday and pressure showed. Linney up top as well.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 25, 2024, 11:39:38 AM
I think a number of us have summed it up well.

Given the swirling conditions, our game needed to be more direct - we needed to force errors on their side, which they did with us.

Even in stoppage time we refused to lump bodies into the box and get it in there - we know it causes havoc for us the other way round.

I'm sure the management can point to the amount of goals we've scored playing the way we play, but different conditions call for different measures.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Mick on March 25, 2024, 10:38:24 PM


Aside from the opening 30 minutes or so, I thought that Gateshead were the better team and ultimately deserved their victory.

We really struggled to get going in that second half and our defending was well below its customary standard this season. Two uncharacteristically poor headers by Jake Cooper which teed up their second and third goals.

Superb strike from Dan Mooney, but their debutant in goal largely had very little to do. The introduction of Linney for Kosylo came far too late, to my mind.

What troubles me is that Gateshead exhibited far more facets to their game overall. Yes, we are fully aware that they can play it out from the back and always have good technical players in midfield who can pass the ball around nicely, but they were also not afraid to be more direct (as demonstrated by their first goal).

We rarely take the opportunity to put a speculative cross into the opposition penalty area, after which we might profit from a defensive error. I can't help but feel that on too many occasions we overelaborate and appear to be on a mystical quest to score the 'perfect' goal.

Ironically, Alex Newby's goal did result from an enforced 'route one' punt from Ethan Ross, which their defender duly made a complete hash of.

I thought that the booing of Dinanga when he was being substituted was rather uncalled for. If he scores the winning goal for Gateshead in their forthcoming FA Trophy Semi-Final against Macc, I will consider crowdfunding for a statue of him to be erected on George Street.
The booing was embarrassing......do not recall him slagging us off after he left the club (unless someone can remind me)...... do not remember him being lazy or half arsed either.....think his crime might be that he is much improved at another club and may well be playing in a Trophy Final soon
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 26, 2024, 08:30:53 AM


Aside from the opening 30 minutes or so, I thought that Gateshead were the better team and ultimately deserved their victory.

We really struggled to get going in that second half and our defending was well below its customary standard this season. Two uncharacteristically poor headers by Jake Cooper which teed up their second and third goals.

Superb strike from Dan Mooney, but their debutant in goal largely had very little to do. The introduction of Linney for Kosylo came far too late, to my mind.

What troubles me is that Gateshead exhibited far more facets to their game overall. Yes, we are fully aware that they can play it out from the back and always have good technical players in midfield who can pass the ball around nicely, but they were also not afraid to be more direct (as demonstrated by their first goal).

We rarely take the opportunity to put a speculative cross into the opposition penalty area, after which we might profit from a defensive error. I can't help but feel that on too many occasions we overelaborate and appear to be on a mystical quest to score the 'perfect' goal.

Ironically, Alex Newby's goal did result from an enforced 'route one' punt from Ethan Ross, which their defender duly made a complete hash of.

I thought that the booing of Dinanga when he was being substituted was rather uncalled for. If he scores the winning goal for Gateshead in their forthcoming FA Trophy Semi-Final against Macc, I will consider crowdfunding for a statue of him to be erected on George Street.
The booing was embarrassing......do not recall him slagging us off after he left the club (unless someone can remind me)...... do not remember him being lazy or half arsed either.....think his crime might be that he is much improved at another club and may well be playing in a Trophy Final soon

I don't condone the booing at all - some might argue it's part of the pantomime, but given he got a fair bit of stick when he was here it doesn't sit well with me at all.

He didn't exactly force the move - most of us were pleased to get a fee for him - and I still maintain the move was best for all parties, it just wasn't going to work properly here for him.

Personally, on a human level, I'm pleased he's done well.
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Seth on March 26, 2024, 09:10:17 AM
He did tauntingly incline his ear to the home fans after his goal but I only noticed that on the highlights
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on March 26, 2024, 11:52:59 AM
Are we ever going to call it what it is...
Title: Re: Gateshead Match thread
Post by: robininstockport on March 26, 2024, 12:13:20 PM
Are we ever going to call it what it is...

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