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Re: Worcester Match Thread
« Reply #60 on: October 29, 2016, 08:14:12 PM »

Every time I think things can only get better they get even worse....

I'll be at Lincoln next week but spending money and effort following this side is becoming much less attractive with each minute at the moment,

This current side is making me lose the desire to keep caring so much and it's making me something I never thought possible regarding Alty....Apathetic

I feel no attachment to hardly any of the players or the coaching staff. It's a very sad situation.
The last paragraph is really interesting and Is how I feel. No songs .. nothing . I miss the days of King Heathcote and taylor.  Real men
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« Reply #61 on: October 29, 2016, 08:17:06 PM »

The lack of leadership and authority on the pitch at the moment is frightening. We need someone to start taking games by the scruff of the neck from the outset. Granted this won't be helped by a complete lack of confidence but our senior players need to stand up and be counted. The sooner densmore is back the better because our record without him is truly awful. And we should be doing everything in our power to get Clee back. That should be a priority.
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« Reply #62 on: October 29, 2016, 08:40:20 PM »

Totally agree with the last couple of posts. I thought at the time when Sinnott left that we needed somebody that had some alty in them to get the players, fans and management together as it was beginning to become fractured. Its a shame for Jim Harvey to come in at this horrible time, but I again get that feeling we need an alty man to get us going and properly fighting for the shirt. I feel Harvey may have been good for alty but maybe not at this moment in time.
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Re: Worcester Match Thread
« Reply #63 on: October 29, 2016, 09:21:54 PM »

Oi Polloi hit the nail on the head the other day,we need a couple of mouthy scousers that can organize and aren't scared to put their foot in where it hurts!
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« Reply #64 on: October 29, 2016, 11:29:22 PM »

That's my point really. Granted densmore isn't or wasn't our most inspirational captain compared to Lawton et al but at least he rolled his sleeves up and always gave it a good go and our record without him is dreadful. We can't have won more than 10 - 15 games in the last 12 months since he's been injured. Hopefully Jim and Buzz have players lined up ready to come in and fight.
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« Reply #65 on: October 30, 2016, 12:21:25 AM »

The lack of leadership and authority on the pitch at the moment is frightening. We need someone to start taking games by the scruff of the neck from the outset. Granted this won't be helped by a complete lack of confidence but our senior players need to stand up and be counted. The sooner densmore is back the better because our record without him is truly awful. And we should be doing everything in our power to get Clee back. That should be a priority.

I walked past Graham Heathcote on the way out and he was saying to Andrew Shaw that (not an exact quote) "All the players are too nice, there is no nastiness in them".

We're in absolute sh*t at the moment. The players need to find some bollocks (I don't believe this will happen) or we need to find some players that have them.

At the moment there's nothing that makes me believe we can stay up.

Also, does anyone think Densmore will actually come back? At the moment I presume he's taking up the wages of someone that might actually play for us at some point.
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Re: Worcester Match Thread
« Reply #66 on: October 30, 2016, 09:19:20 AM »

Richie Wellens? Released by Salford City. 36 but was still playing league football last season.

Could be another Goodall but he should be shipped out if he isn't contracted after yesterday
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« Reply #67 on: October 31, 2016, 07:25:09 AM »

They might actually perform better when they aren't in front of a set of toxic supporters. When they misplace the passes and mistime the tackles the groans won't be as loud.

Let's hope so anyway.
good to see those horrible home fans didn't put them off
We have won twice in nearly a year now away from home in the leauge
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Re: Worcester Match Thread
« Reply #68 on: October 31, 2016, 08:03:04 AM »

Got to be the football clubs worst calendar year on record, certainly on living memory

P 37
W 4
D 13
L 20
F 42
A 76
Pts 25
Gd -34

And there's two months to go yet
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Re: Worcester Match Thread
« Reply #69 on: October 31, 2016, 08:44:13 AM »

Watching Tuesdays highlights is embarrassing

We look like children In the local park

Watching the ball and losing the man

Players walking around the pitch

Embarrasing
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Re: Worcester Match Thread
« Reply #70 on: October 31, 2016, 09:42:57 AM »

I've just watched the full highlights from Tuesday, we were lucky Sinclair can't finish or we would have had a proper hiding
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« Reply #71 on: October 31, 2016, 11:43:04 AM »

Here is how our local paper rated your players on Saturday (marks out of 10)
Altrincham (5-2-3): Deasy 6; Patterson 6, Thomas 7, Hall 6, Goodall, McWilliams 6; Moult 5, Richman 6; Lawrie 5 (Cain 73), Marsh 5 (Heathcote 6, 56), Miller 6 (Reeves 6, 70). Not used: Wilkinson, Dawber

It is clear that Jim Harvey has a particular problem ... namely that it is not easy to identify what your main problem is ... . You were in the game on Saturday - second half, you played more football - but you made mistakes defensively, ball retention in midfield is poor, and you offer some threat upfront but with little potency. My friend said you looked bereft of confidence ... I quipped that you looked bereft of footballers. But that is not right, is it, 'cos you've got some big names in your squad ... but they put in among the poorest performances on Saturday.

I'm going to be negative, then positive ...

You are in real trouble, position-wise. You have been in a relegation battle over the last six games, and you've flunked it, big time. Just look at this ...

http://www.statto.com/football/teams/altrincham

... the league positions of the last six teams you've played ... and you've picked up 3 points. Some could say you've just lost your relegation battle. In a quirk of fixtures, you play those six games again from 25th February until 25th March

http://www.statto.com/football/teams/altrincham/2016-2017/results

Wow, your fixtures till then look tough ... You've got to get stronger, while playing most of the strongest teams in the league.

You've got to try to hang onto the coat tails of that pack above you ... over the next 14 games ... tbh, we would probably consider a 14 point return from that sequence to be a good harvest.    

Then, you just have to win almost every one of those return fixtures, or you're in the glue factory.


Your best hope is Curzon ... I cant realistically see anyone else joining you three in a relegation battle.


Being positive? You have a new manager in place ... he sounded brutally honest in his latest interview. Your old manager went after just six games and three very good draws , so there are performances within your squad.  There is still time left ... 26 games to play ...

Does Jim know this league enough? You've been away two years ... this league has got 30% harder in those two years. There are no whipping boys. It is the weakest among strong clubs who are going to fill the relegation slots.  

Someone on here said Worcester were very poor on Saturday ... we've beaten you 3-0, BPA 3-0 and Staly 4-0. We're not safe yet, but while you've taken 3 points, we've been making huge strides in our own relegation battle by taking over 14 points. We knew we were playing top sides in our opening fixtures, and didnt panic when we picked up only a smattering of points - fewer then you. Among our rivals in the lower half, you competed with us, Staly competed with us for an hour ... but none of you have shown that edge against us. None of you have scored, while all making errors that have cost you the game.

http://www.statto.com/football/teams/worcester-city


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« Reply #72 on: October 31, 2016, 06:17:19 PM »

Thank you Andy for an interesting Worcester perspective on our problems. I will admit I took comfort from starting against some good teams, but in fact playing the bad ones has just made it worse! If Emile Sinclair could finish Bradford could easily have beaten us 6-2 last Tuesday. I would love to think that we played better against good teams, but while they might give us more chance to play football, at the moment they would rip us to shreds defensively.

You are right about the improvement in quality over the past 2 years - even Curzon Ashton & Bradford look quite good (at least against us!) The only side I have seen who are definitely inferior to us is Stalybridge, but that's not what the league table says now. I also think the above are the 3 sides we have to finish ahead of - I can't see the likes of Nuneaton or FC United being drawn into a relegation battle. We only have 5 more league games pre-Christmas, and they all look pretty tough - Salford & Tamworth at home and Brackley, Alfreton and Stockport away. My fear is that by the time of the F.C. United Christmas / New Year double header we could be a hell of a long way behind 19th place. Andy rightly identifies the February / March fxtures as the vital ones, but we cannot afford to be too far behind by the time they come around. Chorley, Fylde, Halifax, Darlington & Harrogate doesn't look much fun as a run of fixtures in the spell leading up to those games!

I suppose the relative absence of league fixtures for the next 2 months does give Jim Harvey some much-needed time to strengthen the squad. Interesting that his latest (loan) signing was your local paper's man of the match for us on Saturday - a few more signings of that quality, preferably permanent, seem to be required to improve things.

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Re: Worcester Match Thread
« Reply #73 on: October 31, 2016, 07:52:31 PM »

Within the past three years, both Barrow and Telford (like Alty, Clubs relegated into this league) found themselves in the relegation zone around Xmas, and on awful runs of form. But both escaped ... Telford by signing Hednesford management team and about four players, meaning Hednesford went down. Barrow by signing Workington's management team and about four players. So, they both got stronger, but as they did, so in the process they severely undermined another nearby Club, who went backwards and got relegated in their place. That's how dog eat dog this level is.  Could Alty attract 3 or 4 players from the Nash?  ...

Good luck on Saturday ... , ... I may go and watch Curzon at Westfields ... See you in Feb ...

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Re: Worcester Match Thread
« Reply #74 on: October 31, 2016, 07:57:29 PM »

Within the past three years, both Barrow and Telford (like Alty, Clubs relegated into this league) found themselves in the relegation zone around Xmas, and on awful runs of form. But both escaped ... Telford by signing Hednesford management team and about four players, meaning Hednesford went down. Barrow by signing Workington's management team and about four players. So, they both got stronger, but as they did, so in the process they severely undermined another nearby Club, who went backwards and got relegated in their place. That's how dog eat dog this level is.  Could Alty attract 3 or 4 players from the Nash?  ...

Good luck on Saturday ... , ... I may go and watch Curzon at Westfields ... See you in Feb ...



Worcester were tipped by the bookies to go go down but are now well on the way to safety , alty were around fourth favourites !
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