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Title: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on October 28, 2016, 12:23:40 PM
As we've signed no can i fear the worst.

Same starting 11 as Tuesday.

Good and safe journey to all travelling.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on October 28, 2016, 12:45:57 PM
They might actually perform better when they aren't in front of a set of toxic supporters. When they misplace the passes and mistime the tackles the groans won't be as loud.

Let's hope so anyway.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Cheadle Hulme Alty on October 28, 2016, 12:54:20 PM
Considering how poorly we've played at home for all of this year, I think the players get away pretty lightly and as fans we've generally been a reasonably tolerant lot.

As for Saturday, as Glyn says we've got no new players in so there certainly aren't any on the books that can improve things. Probably scrap the 5-3-2 we played the other night, as there's no way you can have two in midfield when James Lawrie is one of them. Maybe Richman back in for someone....Moult a strong contender.

Heart hopes for a 2-1 win but my head is telling me it will probably be 3 or 4-1 to them!
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on October 28, 2016, 01:05:10 PM
They might actually perform better when they aren't in front of a set of toxic supporters. When they misplace the passes and mistime the tackles the groans won't be as loud.

Let's hope so anyway.

lol
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: brinners on October 28, 2016, 01:07:44 PM
They might actually perform better when they aren't in front of a set of toxic supporters. When they misplace the passes and mistime the tackles the groans won't be as loud.

Let's hope so anyway.

I forgot how well they'd done away from home this season. I'm not sure our sh*tness has a great deal to do with 'toxic supporters'. Still, it's someone else to blame.

Will lose 4 1 and Miller will probably score.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 28, 2016, 01:36:16 PM
if there's no additions

-------------------Deasey
Moult --Cyrus--Hall--McWilliams

Patterson--Richman---Goodall 
--------------------Miller
------------Marsh-------Reeves
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Leon on October 28, 2016, 01:40:32 PM
                      Deasy
Patterson  Heathcote  Hall  McWilliams
Richman      Moult   Goodall    Miller
                 Lawrie
                         Reeves
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on October 28, 2016, 01:41:36 PM
They might actually perform better when they aren't in front of a set of toxic supporters. When they misplace the passes and mistime the tackles the groans won't be as loud.

Let's hope so anyway.

Haha I've heard it all now
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on October 28, 2016, 01:43:41 PM
                      Deasy
Patterson  Heathcote  Hall  McWilliams
Richman      Moult   Goodall    Miller
                 Lawrie
                         Reeves


This looks the best team available to me
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: alty.fc on October 28, 2016, 01:45:26 PM
They might actually perform better when they aren't in front of a set of toxic supporters. When they misplace the passes and mistime the tackles the groans won't be as loud.

Let's hope so anyway.
without doubt this is best post of the year thank you.

The fans have been a disgrace for the last 18 months . Shame on them for going home and away and singing and clapping. Shame on you all

How dare you get frustrated after 18 months

Disgusted 😂😂
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Ballers on October 28, 2016, 02:18:24 PM
They might actually perform better when they aren't in front of a set of toxic supporters. When they misplace the passes and mistime the tackles the groans won't be as loud.

Let's hope so anyway.

I agree.

The away form has been superb...
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on October 28, 2016, 02:38:31 PM
Just to be clear, I am not blaming the fans for their actions. It's just a natural reaction to some terrible performances.

It does put extra pressure on the players shoulders though and sometimes teams do perform better away than at home as a result. 

If you are going on Saturday I hope  you have as much opportunity to cheer as BPA did. I also hope you know more than one song :-)
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: bumble on October 28, 2016, 02:45:40 PM
NEW SIGNING | Welcome Wayne Thomas.
The vastly-experienced campaigner will stay with us for the next month, starting with a trip to Bromsgrove on Saturday as the Robin’s head to Worcester City.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: GB Alty on October 28, 2016, 03:53:29 PM
They might actually perform better when they aren't in front of a set of toxic supporters. When they misplace the passes and mistime the tackles the groans won't be as loud.

Let's hope so anyway.
Toxic supporters? So its our fault is it? Idiot
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Jezza on October 28, 2016, 04:02:54 PM
Toxic fans......post of the season lol ;D ;D ;D

Is the poster sggesting we try to somehow stifle our groans?

Shame on all of us....in fact lets play behind closed doors thatll sort it.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on October 28, 2016, 04:17:12 PM
I'm not suggesting you don't do it or even that you can control yourself. I groan as much as anyone else.

It's not "our" fault the team aren't doing well but its certainly become a contributary factor.

Why does any pundit talk about "silencing the crowd"  The crowd is the twelfth man but only when they are contributing positively.

Negative vibes do exactly the opposite.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Toff Apple on October 28, 2016, 04:20:03 PM
Most patient fans in non-league and again get a kicking - nice.  We used to be the Man utd of non league football, at the moment we are more likely the Bolton, soon to be the portsmouth.  Probably best if we all stop caring
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: ManagementGuru on October 28, 2016, 04:32:06 PM
So is Wilkinson still out then?  Him for one of Lawrie or Miller if not.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Ashley Alty on October 28, 2016, 04:40:52 PM
Is Wilko injured?
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: roytonmike on October 28, 2016, 04:45:04 PM
re Greg Wilkinson - he was 'iced up' after last Saturday according to the physio's piece in Tuesday's programme, & wasn't in the 16 that evening, though the impression was given then that he had been expected to be available. Make of that what you will.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Leon on October 28, 2016, 05:09:59 PM
I only didn't select Greg because I think we can only afford two out of him, Lawrie and Miller and I've just seen a bit more of the other two this season.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on October 28, 2016, 06:40:47 PM
5-4-1:

Marsh

Miller, Moult, Goodall, Richman

McWilliams, Hall, Thomas, Heathcote, Patterson

Deasy

For all JH wants us to "play to our strengths" as a good attacking side, we didn't actually create a clear cut chance against BPA on Tuesday. Our goals were long range. We are a bad football team, so I'd much rather see us set up to be defensive, frustrating and tight in the hope we can grab something.

Much improved, battle well but fall to a 1-0 loss. 22 away fans.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: roytonmike on October 28, 2016, 06:45:59 PM
I only didn't select Greg because I think we can only afford two out of him, Lawrie and Miller and I've just seen a bit more of the other two this season.
I would agree that if all three are fit we can only find space for two of them; if Wilkinson is fit he gets one of those places for me simply because he can pass a ball to another player in a similarly coloured shirt more often than the other two combined. I presume the new loanee - of whom I confess to knowing nothing - will go into central defence. Either Cyrus or Hall could make way - for me it's as broad as it's long. For my money we have to have two potential ball-winners in midfield, which implies Richman & Moult (Goodall might qualify if he weren't so slow). Maybe Lawrie could play behind Reeves (Marsh is still in my honest opinion not match fit enough to start - he was blowing by half-time on Tuesday)? I wonder whether Cain might be considered as a left wing pure & simple, with the aim of getting to the by-line & putting low crosses into the box to see what might happen (crosses above head height being counter-productive).
I hope my journey tomorrow will prove to be necessary!
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 28, 2016, 06:46:21 PM
Just to be clear, I am not blaming the fans for their actions. It's just a natural reaction to some terrible performances.

It does put extra pressure on the players shoulders though and sometimes teams do perform better away than at home as a result. 

If you are going on Saturday I hope  you have as much opportunity to cheer as BPA did. I also hope you know more than one song :-)


We could always attempt a version of this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU)

Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Brian Flynn on October 28, 2016, 07:12:09 PM
Just to be clear, I am not blaming the fans for their actions. It's just a natural reaction to some terrible performances.

It does put extra pressure on the players shoulders though and sometimes teams do perform better away than at home as a result.  

If you are going on Saturday I hope  you have as much opportunity to cheer as BPA did. I also hope you know more than one song :-)


We could always attempt a version of this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU)



I'm all for more of this sort of thing.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on October 28, 2016, 07:37:20 PM
Most patient fans in non-league and again get a kicking - nice.  We used to be the Man utd of non league football, at the moment we are more likely the Bolton, soon to be the portsmouth.  Probably best if we all stop caring

It's not a kicking. It's an observation. I just hope that tomorrow with far fewer of us there to groan, they'll run a bit faster, pass a bit better and maybe grow just a bit in confidence. It needs to start coming from somewhere.

Having a wholesale clear out is totally realistic so the guys pulling on the shirt have got to turn it around. There were signs on Tuesday but it didn't last long.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Andy@Worcester on October 28, 2016, 08:39:52 PM
Slightly off topic I know, but for anyone travelling to the game tomorrow, and who has a car and doesnt mind a moderate diversion on the way home via Derby, and likes blues/rock guitar, then I have a free ticket going for this gig at the Flower Pot in Derby  ...

Its basically Rory Gallagher's original band members, Gerry McAvoy and Ted McKenna with a Dutch guy who plays like the late Rory (as if anyone could) ...

http://www.seetickets.com/event/band-of-friends/the-flowerpot/981846 (http://www.seetickets.com/event/band-of-friends/the-flowerpot/981846)

If anybody would like the ticket, please post on here, and I shall bring it to the game and leave it for collection in the front office (usually manned by Graham 'Benny' Hill) at the Victoria Ground. Dont make the mistake I did, though ... the event is for over 18s only, due to it being licensed premises ...  If more of you want to go than one, I guess other tickets may still be available for purchase online...
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: ManagementGuru on October 28, 2016, 09:15:50 PM
I stay in a hotel opposite the Flower Pot all week as I work in Derby.  It is one of a surprisingly high number of excellent pubs in the city.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: taxi Phil on October 28, 2016, 10:35:09 PM
I stay in a hotel opposite the Flower Pot all week as I work in Derby.  It is one of a surprisingly high number of excellent pubs in the city.

Derby is one of the best cities in England for a real ale pub crawl.

Not going tomorrow as I've had a week off and I'm skint. Which is a pity, as that gig would be right up my street.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Bath Alty on October 28, 2016, 11:57:47 PM
Sorry we won't see you tomorrow Phil,  Dad's got his driving license back from the medical people so it's first game of the season tomorrow
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Brian Flynn on October 29, 2016, 08:01:43 AM
Slightly off topic I know, but for anyone travelling to the game tomorrow, and who has a car and doesnt mind a moderate diversion on the way home via Derby, and likes blues/rock guitar, then I have a free ticket going for this gig at the Flower Pot in Derby  ...

Its basically Rory Gallagher's original band members, Gerry McAvoy and Ted McKenna with a Dutch guy who plays like the late Rory (as if anyone could) ...

http://www.seetickets.com/event/band-of-friends/the-flowerpot/981846 (http://www.seetickets.com/event/band-of-friends/the-flowerpot/981846)

If anybody would like the ticket, please post on here, and I shall bring it to the game and leave it for collection in the front office (usually manned by Graham 'Benny' Hill) at the Victoria Ground. Dont make the mistake I did, though ... the event is for over 18s only, due to it being licensed premises ...  If more of you want to go than one, I guess other tickets may still be available for purchase online...

Good venue, the Flower Pot. I saw Aztec Camera there about 15 years ago.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Frosty on October 29, 2016, 08:44:39 AM
Hats off to anyone bothering going
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Ballers on October 29, 2016, 09:18:12 AM
Slightly off topic I know, but for anyone travelling to the game tomorrow, and who has a car and doesnt mind a moderate diversion on the way home via Derby, and likes blues/rock guitar, then I have a free ticket going for this gig at the Flower Pot in Derby  ...

Its basically Rory Gallagher's original band members, Gerry McAvoy and Ted McKenna with a Dutch guy who plays like the late Rory (as if anyone could) ...

http://www.seetickets.com/event/band-of-friends/the-flowerpot/981846 (http://www.seetickets.com/event/band-of-friends/the-flowerpot/981846)

If anybody would like the ticket, please post on here, and I shall bring it to the game and leave it for collection in the front office (usually manned by Graham 'Benny' Hill) at the Victoria Ground. Dont make the mistake I did, though ... the event is for over 18s only, due to it being licensed premises ...  If more of you want to go than one, I guess other tickets may still be available for purchase online...

Good venue, the Flower Pot. I saw Aztec Camera there about 15 years ago.

Good Morning Britain Brian
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Ballers on October 29, 2016, 09:20:09 AM
Hats off to anyone bothering going

I'm Oblivious to it.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: alty.fc on October 29, 2016, 09:31:26 AM
Hats off to anyone bothering going
Anyone who does go today should be knighted and placed onto the board with immediate effect
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: ianpickles on October 29, 2016, 09:40:09 AM
That's it then. Sir Ian. I'm going to see Alty win.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on October 29, 2016, 09:40:16 AM
Hats off to anyone bothering going

Tin hat if you're on the board
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: alty.fc on October 29, 2016, 09:44:13 AM
That's it then. Sir Ian. I'm going to see Alty win.
arise sir Ian.  Good luck
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: ianpickles on October 29, 2016, 09:50:22 AM
Ta. I think we will need quite a lot of good fortune.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: taxi Phil on October 29, 2016, 09:52:46 AM
Sorry we won't see you tomorrow Phil,  Dad's got his driving license back from the medical people so it's first game of the season tomorrow

Good news....let's hope it's a better experience at Bromsgrove than most of our recent efforts.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Brian Flynn on October 29, 2016, 10:37:05 AM
Slightly off topic I know, but for anyone travelling to the game tomorrow, and who has a car and doesnt mind a moderate diversion on the way home via Derby, and likes blues/rock guitar, then I have a free ticket going for this gig at the Flower Pot in Derby  ...

Its basically Rory Gallagher's original band members, Gerry McAvoy and Ted McKenna with a Dutch guy who plays like the late Rory (as if anyone could) ...

http://www.seetickets.com/event/band-of-friends/the-flowerpot/981846 (http://www.seetickets.com/event/band-of-friends/the-flowerpot/981846)

If anybody would like the ticket, please post on here, and I shall bring it to the game and leave it for collection in the front office (usually manned by Graham 'Benny' Hill) at the Victoria Ground. Dont make the mistake I did, though ... the event is for over 18s only, due to it being licensed premises ...  If more of you want to go than one, I guess other tickets may still be available for purchase online...

Good venue, the Flower Pot. I saw Aztec Camera there about 15 years ago.

Good Morning Britain Brian

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Brian Flynn on October 29, 2016, 10:39:25 AM
Hats off to anyone bothering going

I'm Oblivious to it.

Somewhere in my heart there is a star that shines for you Ballers!
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: taxi Phil on October 29, 2016, 11:45:08 AM
Hats off to anyone bothering going

I'm Oblivious to it.

Somewhere in my heart there is a star that shines for you Ballers!

We should dedicate "All I Need is Everything" to Jim Harvey  >:(
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on October 29, 2016, 12:34:26 PM
Hats off to anyone bothering going

I'm Oblivious to it.

Somewhere in my heart there is a star that shines for you Ballers!

We should dedicate "All I Need is Everything" to Jim Harvey  >:(

lets hope it doesn't turn into the Theme from "Mission Impossible"
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Ballers on October 29, 2016, 12:58:17 PM
It'll be A Long Walk Into Winter if it dies
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 29, 2016, 02:47:01 PM

Altrincham Starting Line Up | Deasy, Patterson, Mcwilliams, Thomas, Hall, Goodall, Lawrie, Moult, Richman, Marsh, Miller

SUBS | Wilkinson, Dawber, Reeves, Heathcote, Cain
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: brinners on October 29, 2016, 03:04:50 PM
Weirdly, that line up is probably about right for this game. Good luck to all and sundry.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: GolfRoader on October 29, 2016, 03:11:11 PM
1-0 down and a red

Great start
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: brinners on October 29, 2016, 03:13:23 PM
Lol. The feeling of optimism was short - lived!
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: wayno on October 29, 2016, 03:14:35 PM
The twitter feed is cracking me up

Deadlock broken after 8 minutes

After a bright start  ( we lasted 7 minutes)

Lol
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Mick on October 29, 2016, 03:17:51 PM
Oh dear..........game over inside 10 minutes

Those who have made the journey should most certainly feature in the NY Honours list - services to optimism
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: York Alty is back on October 29, 2016, 03:42:12 PM
Oh dear..........game over inside 10 minutes

Those who have made the journey should most certainly feature in the NY Honours list - services to optimism

Neil Young honours? NOooooooooooooooo.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Leon on October 29, 2016, 05:36:09 PM
Wretched. We're not even competing with lower mid-table sides. The worst thing is that the only people who seem angry about what's happening are the fans. The players look lost, the management dumbstruck and clueless and certain members of the board spent the day smirking and clowning around. I've got train tickets for Lincoln but after that, I've had it with this lot
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Stan Hibbert on October 29, 2016, 05:44:15 PM
Wretched. We're not even competing with lower mid-table sides. The worst thing is that the only people who seem angry about what's happening are the fans. The players look lost, the management dumbstruck and clueless and certain members of the board spent the day smirking and clowning around. I've got train tickets for Lincoln but after that, I've had it with this lot
I think there may be a lot of people who ordinarily would go to Lincoln in a blink of an eye who now won't bother. I, for one, don't fancy wasting another Saturday watching players who don't appear to give a flying f@ck about my club. The thing is, I will be there because I do give a f@ck about my club. I'm the mug as they're the ones taking my hard earned!
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: im not really here on October 29, 2016, 06:05:12 PM
Which board members were clowning around?
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 29, 2016, 07:08:00 PM

Wretched. We're not even competing with lower mid-table sides. The worst thing is that the only people who seem angry about what's happening are the fans. The players look lost, the management dumbstruck and clueless and certain members of the board spent the day smirking and clowning around. I've got train tickets for Lincoln but after that, I've had it with this lot




"Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right,
Here I am, stuck in the Evo-Stik League with you."


(With apologies to Gerry Rafferty and Joe Egan of Stealers Wheel).
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: AFC56 on October 29, 2016, 07:12:27 PM

Wretched. We're not even competing with lower mid-table sides. The worst thing is that the only people who seem angry about what's happening are the fans. The players look lost, the management dumbstruck and clueless and certain members of the board spent the day smirking and clowning around. I've got train tickets for Lincoln but after that, I've had it with this lot




"Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right,
Here I am, stuck in the Evo-Stik League with you."


(With apologies to Gerry Rafferty and Joe Egan of Stealers Wheel).


Brilliant.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on October 29, 2016, 07:46:16 PM
Which board members were clowning around?

Could have been any of them really,they're all clueless!!
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: wellingboroughALTY on October 29, 2016, 07:59:04 PM
Every time I think things can only get better they get even worse....

I'll be at Lincoln next week but spending money and effort following this side is becoming much less attractive with each minute at the moment,

This current side is making me lose the desire to keep caring so much and it's making me something I never thought possible regarding Alty....Apathetic

I feel no attachment to hardly any of the players or the coaching staff. It's a very sad situation.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: brinners on October 29, 2016, 08:09:57 PM
Lincoln scored 5 at Chester today. Next week's game makes me feel sick. I've followed Alty for more than quarter of a century, but no way on God's Earth I'll be there.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: wayno on October 29, 2016, 08:14:12 PM
Every time I think things can only get better they get even worse....

I'll be at Lincoln next week but spending money and effort following this side is becoming much less attractive with each minute at the moment,

This current side is making me lose the desire to keep caring so much and it's making me something I never thought possible regarding Alty....Apathetic

I feel no attachment to hardly any of the players or the coaching staff. It's a very sad situation.
The last paragraph is really interesting and Is how I feel. No songs .. nothing . I miss the days of King Heathcote and taylor.  Real men
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Chrissy A on October 29, 2016, 08:17:06 PM
The lack of leadership and authority on the pitch at the moment is frightening. We need someone to start taking games by the scruff of the neck from the outset. Granted this won't be helped by a complete lack of confidence but our senior players need to stand up and be counted. The sooner densmore is back the better because our record without him is truly awful. And we should be doing everything in our power to get Clee back. That should be a priority.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: AFC56 on October 29, 2016, 08:40:20 PM
Totally agree with the last couple of posts. I thought at the time when Sinnott left that we needed somebody that had some alty in them to get the players, fans and management together as it was beginning to become fractured. Its a shame for Jim Harvey to come in at this horrible time, but I again get that feeling we need an alty man to get us going and properly fighting for the shirt. I feel Harvey may have been good for alty but maybe not at this moment in time.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on October 29, 2016, 09:21:54 PM
Oi Polloi hit the nail on the head the other day,we need a couple of mouthy scousers that can organize and aren't scared to put their foot in where it hurts!
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Chrissy A on October 29, 2016, 11:29:22 PM
That's my point really. Granted densmore isn't or wasn't our most inspirational captain compared to Lawton et al but at least he rolled his sleeves up and always gave it a good go and our record without him is dreadful. We can't have won more than 10 - 15 games in the last 12 months since he's been injured. Hopefully Jim and Buzz have players lined up ready to come in and fight.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Jimmy Hill on October 30, 2016, 12:21:25 AM
The lack of leadership and authority on the pitch at the moment is frightening. We need someone to start taking games by the scruff of the neck from the outset. Granted this won't be helped by a complete lack of confidence but our senior players need to stand up and be counted. The sooner densmore is back the better because our record without him is truly awful. And we should be doing everything in our power to get Clee back. That should be a priority.

I walked past Graham Heathcote on the way out and he was saying to Andrew Shaw that (not an exact quote) "All the players are too nice, there is no nastiness in them".

We're in absolute sh*t at the moment. The players need to find some bollocks (I don't believe this will happen) or we need to find some players that have them.

At the moment there's nothing that makes me believe we can stay up.

Also, does anyone think Densmore will actually come back? At the moment I presume he's taking up the wages of someone that might actually play for us at some point.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Teasierbeaver on October 30, 2016, 09:19:20 AM
Richie Wellens? Released by Salford City. 36 but was still playing league football last season.

Could be another Goodall but he should be shipped out if he isn't contracted after yesterday
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: wayno on October 31, 2016, 07:25:09 AM
They might actually perform better when they aren't in front of a set of toxic supporters. When they misplace the passes and mistime the tackles the groans won't be as loud.

Let's hope so anyway.
good to see those horrible home fans didn't put them off
We have won twice in nearly a year now away from home in the leauge
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 31, 2016, 08:03:04 AM
Got to be the football clubs worst calendar year on record, certainly on living memory

P 37
W 4
D 13
L 20
F 42
A 76
Pts 25
Gd -34

And there's two months to go yet
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: wayno on October 31, 2016, 08:44:13 AM
Watching Tuesdays highlights is embarrassing

We look like children In the local park

Watching the ball and losing the man

Players walking around the pitch

Embarrasing
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 31, 2016, 09:42:57 AM
I've just watched the full highlights from Tuesday, we were lucky Sinclair can't finish or we would have had a proper hiding
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Andy@Worcester on October 31, 2016, 11:43:04 AM
Here is how our local paper rated your players on Saturday (marks out of 10)
Altrincham (5-2-3): Deasy 6; Patterson 6, Thomas 7, Hall 6, Goodall, McWilliams 6; Moult 5, Richman 6; Lawrie 5 (Cain 73), Marsh 5 (Heathcote 6, 56), Miller 6 (Reeves 6, 70). Not used: Wilkinson, Dawber

It is clear that Jim Harvey has a particular problem ... namely that it is not easy to identify what your main problem is ... . You were in the game on Saturday - second half, you played more football - but you made mistakes defensively, ball retention in midfield is poor, and you offer some threat upfront but with little potency. My friend said you looked bereft of confidence ... I quipped that you looked bereft of footballers. But that is not right, is it, 'cos you've got some big names in your squad ... but they put in among the poorest performances on Saturday.

I'm going to be negative, then positive ...

You are in real trouble, position-wise. You have been in a relegation battle over the last six games, and you've flunked it, big time. Just look at this ...

http://www.statto.com/football/teams/altrincham (http://www.statto.com/football/teams/altrincham)

... the league positions of the last six teams you've played ... and you've picked up 3 points. Some could say you've just lost your relegation battle. In a quirk of fixtures, you play those six games again from 25th February until 25th March

http://www.statto.com/football/teams/altrincham/2016-2017/results (http://www.statto.com/football/teams/altrincham/2016-2017/results)

Wow, your fixtures till then look tough ... You've got to get stronger, while playing most of the strongest teams in the league.

You've got to try to hang onto the coat tails of that pack above you ... over the next 14 games ... tbh, we would probably consider a 14 point return from that sequence to be a good harvest.    

Then, you just have to win almost every one of those return fixtures, or you're in the glue factory.


Your best hope is Curzon ... I cant realistically see anyone else joining you three in a relegation battle.


Being positive? You have a new manager in place ... he sounded brutally honest in his latest interview. Your old manager went after just six games and three very good draws , so there are performances within your squad.  There is still time left ... 26 games to play ...

Does Jim know this league enough? You've been away two years ... this league has got 30% harder in those two years. There are no whipping boys. It is the weakest among strong clubs who are going to fill the relegation slots.  

Someone on here said Worcester were very poor on Saturday ... we've beaten you 3-0, BPA 3-0 and Staly 4-0. We're not safe yet, but while you've taken 3 points, we've been making huge strides in our own relegation battle by taking over 14 points. We knew we were playing top sides in our opening fixtures, and didnt panic when we picked up only a smattering of points - fewer then you. Among our rivals in the lower half, you competed with us, Staly competed with us for an hour ... but none of you have shown that edge against us. None of you have scored, while all making errors that have cost you the game.

http://www.statto.com/football/teams/worcester-city (http://www.statto.com/football/teams/worcester-city)


Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: RMS Hale on October 31, 2016, 06:17:19 PM
Thank you Andy for an interesting Worcester perspective on our problems. I will admit I took comfort from starting against some good teams, but in fact playing the bad ones has just made it worse! If Emile Sinclair could finish Bradford could easily have beaten us 6-2 last Tuesday. I would love to think that we played better against good teams, but while they might give us more chance to play football, at the moment they would rip us to shreds defensively.

You are right about the improvement in quality over the past 2 years - even Curzon Ashton & Bradford look quite good (at least against us!) The only side I have seen who are definitely inferior to us is Stalybridge, but that's not what the league table says now. I also think the above are the 3 sides we have to finish ahead of - I can't see the likes of Nuneaton or FC United being drawn into a relegation battle. We only have 5 more league games pre-Christmas, and they all look pretty tough - Salford & Tamworth at home and Brackley, Alfreton and Stockport away. My fear is that by the time of the F.C. United Christmas / New Year double header we could be a hell of a long way behind 19th place. Andy rightly identifies the February / March fxtures as the vital ones, but we cannot afford to be too far behind by the time they come around. Chorley, Fylde, Halifax, Darlington & Harrogate doesn't look much fun as a run of fixtures in the spell leading up to those games!

I suppose the relative absence of league fixtures for the next 2 months does give Jim Harvey some much-needed time to strengthen the squad. Interesting that his latest (loan) signing was your local paper's man of the match for us on Saturday - a few more signings of that quality, preferably permanent, seem to be required to improve things.

Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Andy@Worcester on October 31, 2016, 07:52:31 PM
Within the past three years, both Barrow and Telford (like Alty, Clubs relegated into this league) found themselves in the relegation zone around Xmas, and on awful runs of form. But both escaped ... Telford by signing Hednesford management team and about four players, meaning Hednesford went down. Barrow by signing Workington's management team and about four players. So, they both got stronger, but as they did, so in the process they severely undermined another nearby Club, who went backwards and got relegated in their place. That's how dog eat dog this level is.  Could Alty attract 3 or 4 players from the Nash?  ...

Good luck on Saturday ... , ... I may go and watch Curzon at Westfields ... See you in Feb ...

Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on October 31, 2016, 07:57:29 PM
Within the past three years, both Barrow and Telford (like Alty, Clubs relegated into this league) found themselves in the relegation zone around Xmas, and on awful runs of form. But both escaped ... Telford by signing Hednesford management team and about four players, meaning Hednesford went down. Barrow by signing Workington's management team and about four players. So, they both got stronger, but as they did, so in the process they severely undermined another nearby Club, who went backwards and got relegated in their place. That's how dog eat dog this level is.  Could Alty attract 3 or 4 players from the Nash?  ...

Good luck on Saturday ... , ... I may go and watch Curzon at Westfields ... See you in Feb ...



Worcester were tipped by the bookies to go go down but are now well on the way to safety , alty were around fourth favourites !
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Bath Alty on October 31, 2016, 09:56:40 PM
The local paper is being generous there - especially to the new bloke (perhaps biased from seeing him play for Worcester previously?) who made a few good interceptions but only because he was not marking their forwards and Worcester were terrible and unable to find their men any more than we were.  Any half decent side would have passed it round him all day.  Hughes in particular regularly had 10+ yards of empty pitch around him in the final third.

I think our defence is so short of confidence that they are not marking their man properly because they have one eye on covering for their team mates when they inevitably let their man go.  This then becomes a self fulfilling prophesy as they are all doing the same thing and not marking anyone properly.  Tell them to focus on their own j0b and not worry about everyone else!
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Andy@Worcester on November 01, 2016, 10:42:53 AM
Passing around your players? I guess we'll stick to passing underneath them, as its goals wot counts ... like this one

http://d2dzjyo4yc2sta.cloudfront.net/?url=images.pitchero.com%2Fui%2F676780%2F1477845634_5364.jpg&w=400&h=400&t=fit&q=85 (http://d2dzjyo4yc2sta.cloudfront.net/?url=images.pitchero.com%2Fui%2F676780%2F1477845634_5364.jpg&w=400&h=400&t=fit&q=85)


There isnt really much of a need to attack Alty through the centre of defence, as you are so weak down the flanks. Chekaine Steele (who is only 19) roasted McWilliams at BPA about 3 weeks ago and did so again on Saturday ... but it is your right flank where the biggest mismatch was ... Keane and Weir tore Patterson apart down your right flank, as he was exposed time and time again ... and that is where both our first two goals came from. We play with wing-backs who can defend, but yours seem to play far forward, and seem to be unable to defend. They leaving huge gaps, and clearly Telford and BPA exploited you in those areas before we did again. Goodall screwed up against Telford through the middle, and again on Saturday.   Deasy made a big error for the second ..., as shown ...  No wonder Wayne Thomas was marked higher than those around him ...
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Jimmy Hill on November 01, 2016, 12:21:35 PM
Passing around your players? I guess we'll stick to passing underneath them, as its goals wot counts ... like this one

http://d2dzjyo4yc2sta.cloudfront.net/?url=images.pitchero.com%2Fui%2F676780%2F1477845634_5364.jpg&w=400&h=400&t=fit&q=85 (http://d2dzjyo4yc2sta.cloudfront.net/?url=images.pitchero.com%2Fui%2F676780%2F1477845634_5364.jpg&w=400&h=400&t=fit&q=85)


There isnt really much of a need to attack Alty through the centre of defence, as you are so weak down the flanks. Chekaine Steele (who is only 19) roasted McWilliams at BPA about 3 weeks ago and did so again on Saturday ... but it is your right flank where the biggest mismatch was ... Keane and Weir tore Patterson apart down your right flank, as he was exposed time and time again ... and that is where both our first two goals came from. We play with wing-backs who can defend, but yours seem to play far forward, and seem to be unable to defend. They leaving huge gaps, and clearly Telford and BPA exploited you in those areas before we did again. Goodall screwed up against Telford through the middle, and again on Saturday.   Deasy made a big error for the second ..., as shown ...  No wonder Wayne Thomas was marked higher than those around him ...

What do you want us to say? That you are the second coming of Brazil 1970?

A fair assessment is that we were hopeless, putting in a performance any team in this league would be ashamed of. And you only managed to beat us 3-0 with 10 men.

That probably puts your performance at about 'meh'.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Leon on November 01, 2016, 12:31:03 PM
Passing around your players? I guess we'll stick to passing underneath them, as its goals wot counts ... like this one

http://d2dzjyo4yc2sta.cloudfront.net/?url=images.pitchero.com%2Fui%2F676780%2F1477845634_5364.jpg&w=400&h=400&t=fit&q=85 (http://d2dzjyo4yc2sta.cloudfront.net/?url=images.pitchero.com%2Fui%2F676780%2F1477845634_5364.jpg&w=400&h=400&t=fit&q=85)


There isnt really much of a need to attack Alty through the centre of defence, as you are so weak down the flanks. Chekaine Steele (who is only 19) roasted McWilliams at BPA about 3 weeks ago and did so again on Saturday ... but it is your right flank where the biggest mismatch was ... Keane and Weir tore Patterson apart down your right flank, as he was exposed time and time again ... and that is where both our first two goals came from. We play with wing-backs who can defend, but yours seem to play far forward, and seem to be unable to defend. They leaving huge gaps, and clearly Telford and BPA exploited you in those areas before we did again. Goodall screwed up against Telford through the middle, and again on Saturday.   Deasy made a big error for the second ..., as shown ...  No wonder Wayne Thomas was marked higher than those around him ...

Do you think we don't know all of this? You speak as if you think you've noticed things about Alty on the basis of one game that those of us who've watched them all season haven't noticed. Look, we're f**king sh*t and it doesn't require Worcester's answer to Einstein to point it out at such tedious length.

Good luck to you for the rest of the season. I expect you mean well. But we're having an awful time here and you're not helping. The game was three days ago now so if you did feel like slinging your hook, I doubt any of us would object.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: JTH on November 01, 2016, 01:12:37 PM
> Oi Polloi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p8oeiVDcx4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p8oeiVDcx4)
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: Graham Bennetts Perm on November 01, 2016, 03:13:58 PM
Passing around your players? I guess we'll stick to passing underneath them, as its goals wot counts ... like this one

http://d2dzjyo4yc2sta.cloudfront.net/?url=images.pitchero.com%2Fui%2F676780%2F1477845634_5364.jpg&w=400&h=400&t=fit&q=85 (http://d2dzjyo4yc2sta.cloudfront.net/?url=images.pitchero.com%2Fui%2F676780%2F1477845634_5364.jpg&w=400&h=400&t=fit&q=85)


There isnt really much of a need to attack Alty through the centre of defence, as you are so weak down the flanks. Chekaine Steele (who is only 19) roasted McWilliams at BPA about 3 weeks ago and did so again on Saturday ... but it is your right flank where the biggest mismatch was ... Keane and Weir tore Patterson apart down your right flank, as he was exposed time and time again ... and that is where both our first two goals came from. We play with wing-backs who can defend, but yours seem to play far forward, and seem to be unable to defend. They leaving huge gaps, and clearly Telford and BPA exploited you in those areas before we did again. Goodall screwed up against Telford through the middle, and again on Saturday.   Deasy made a big error for the second ..., as shown ...  No wonder Wayne Thomas was marked higher than those around him ...


Can we have this guy as a summariser on Radio Robins please?
 I like the matter of fact approach and the brutal honesty.
Title: Re: Worcester Match Thread
Post by: York Alty is back on November 01, 2016, 03:18:25 PM
We're sh*t and we know we are. We're sh*t and we know we are.

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