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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: robininstockport on April 08, 2023, 08:38:33 AM
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Never enjoyed a game against the 'heed', even when they weren't in good form as they are now. Guessing we'll revert to 4 at the back with jones missing.
Byrne
Welsh-Hayes Ferguson Baines. Jones
Marriott. Lundstram
Sinclair. Oyedele. Hulme
Hugill
Alty 1-1 Gateshead (Hulme)
Think I'll swerve this one
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Linney over Hugill for me but otherwise, yes.
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I give up if Osborne's playing. Can't pass a ball sideways 5 yards. Parky can be stubborn so he may have him on the team sheet first. We were better at Oldham with 10 when he'd been subbed.
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I think Parky wants the security of Osborne helping out Lundstram and Marriott when we play 4-4-2.
I also think he prefers Perritt at right back in a flat back four too.
We’re still a couple of players light aren’t we?
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Yes. He had a bit of a purple patch a few games ago but I found myself waiting for the next slip up (and not having to wait long). He's keen enough and seems to put the effort in but it's a no from me.
We need either Kosylo to come back firing on all cylinders and /or find a decent replacement for Oyedele when he goes back.
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We need to watch out for their in form striker.....Mighty Marcus Dinanga !
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We need to watch out for their in form striker.....Mighty Marcus Dinanga !
That's right. You just know what's going to happen don't you! 🙄
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I think Parky wants the security of Osborne helping out Lundstram and Marriott when we play 4-4-2.
I also think he prefers Perritt at right back in a flat back four too.
We’re still a couple of players light aren’t we?
Trouble is, Osborne doesn't help them. Gives the ball away, nowhere near his man, moans at others. He is so average and if we need to progress then he shouldn't be anywhere near the starting 11.
Sorvel looked fuming with him, when he misplaced about his 3rd or 4th ball against Oldham. He was subbed a minute or two later.
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Never enjoyed a game against the 'heed', even when they weren't in good form as they are now. Guessing we'll revert to 4 at the back with jones missing.
Byrne
Welsh-Hayes Ferguson Baines. Jones
Marriott. Lundstram
Sinclair. Oyedele. Hulme
Hugill
Alty 1-1 Gateshead (Hulme)
Think I'll swerve this one
This team with Linney up top. Linney is quality as the lone striker.
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Yes. That would be my pick too.
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PS. Am I correct in thinking that a win in this game will make us mathematically safe this year?
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Yes, I've worked that out already. And that is if we lose every game ongoing and Yeovil win every one, there are others possibly in the mix too.
Beat Gateshead and we are mathematically safe from relegation even if Yeovil win.
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Harry Perritt would probably make a very good RCB in a back three if Parky decided to keep it that way.
For what it's worth, I'd rather we returned to 4231 too.
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Linney over Hugill for me but otherwise, yes.
100% this.
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Harry Perritt would probably make a very good RCB in a back three if Parky decided to keep it that way.
For what it's worth, I'd rather we returned to 4231 too.
Me too as a plan a plan a, plan b b 3 central defenders and wingbacks
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Don't know why exactly, but I've got the twitches about this one.
Could one or two of you glass-half-fullish sorts offer a little reassurance?
Gateshead seem to be one of the form teams over the last few games but we could really do with winning this if we're to push on for a top half finish.
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What time is the pitch inspection
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With rain about what's the odds we lose the last third of the Popular Side to Gateshead fans?
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Got to be honest, not the replies I was hoping for.
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Some finish from the wOrST eVeR aLtRiNcHaM pLaYeR…….
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see we have only 4 subs on the bench including gould,where are the rest of the players like Bennet and the bloke from Oldham?
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Some finish from the wOrST eVeR aLtRiNcHaM pLaYeR…….
Had to be Dinanga didn’t it??!!
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Some finish from the wOrST eVeR aLtRiNcHaM pLaYeR…….
So glad I didn't have to be the only one to say this.
7 in 12 is a decent return for them...
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Garbage
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see we have only 4 subs on the bench including gould,where are the rest of the players like Bennet and the bloke from Oldham?
Only allowed 5 loanees in the squad, and 5 started the game. I thought Kaja might have been there though.
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Some finish from the wOrST eVeR aLtRiNcHaM pLaYeR…….
Had to be Dinanga didn’t it??!!
I believe he's been practicing hitting a cow's arse with a 🪕
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We need to watch out for their in form striker.....Mighty Marcus Dinanga !
That's right. You just know what's going to happen don't you! 🙄
Sorry I was correct! 😉
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Some finish from the wOrST eVeR aLtRiNcHaM pLaYeR…….
So glad I didn't have to be the only one to say this.
7 in 12 is a decent return for them...
👍 Look, we were right to let him go as he simply wasn’t converting for us. But he was always on the end of chances and had the second highest xG (if you read into it) in the League after Langstaff. Clearly a confidence player that never clicked at Alty.
Never a bad player and some of the stick he got on here and in person absolutely reeked. Should be ashamed.
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Another home game of squandered opportunities.
There's only one word for Hugill's astonishing miss during the first half: McGoonaesque.
Mind you, Linney's header in the second half wasn't much better.
That afternoon was a classic case of déjà vu for those of us who spent most of the early 1990s watching Alty lose against Gateshead with depressing regularity.
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Looking on the bright side, that could have been at Wembley!
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Some finish from the wOrST eVeR aLtRiNcHaM pLaYeR…….
So glad I didn't have to be the only one to say this.
7 in 12 is a decent return for them...
👍 Look, we were right to let him go as he simply wasn’t converting for us. But he was always on the end of chances and had the second highest xG (if you rea
d into it) in the League after Langstaff. Clearly a confidence player that never clicked at Alty.
Never a bad player and some of the stick he got on here and in person absolutely reeked. Should be ashamed.
"Never a bad player". I presume you're joking there.
I always said he was probably a very nice person, just a terrible player for Alty.
I'm glad he seems to have found a team he can play better for.
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Exactly. If that chance had come to him whilst playing for us, he'd have put it over the bar.
Good luck to him if he's now in a happy place.
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Having watched the highlights, we had plenty of chances to score. Hugill and Linney had the best opportunities. But lacked the quality of finishing.
Shame we were missing our regular CH's, Perritt did well overall. Dinanga goal was a decent shot, but at that angle we should have done better.
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Some finish from the wOrST eVeR aLtRiNcHaM pLaYeR…….
So glad I didn't have to be the only one to say this.
7 in 12 is a decent return for them...
👍 Look, we were right to let him go as he simply wasn’t converting for us. But he was always on the end of chances and had the second highest xG (if you rea
d into it) in the League after Langstaff. Clearly a confidence player that never clicked at Alty.
Never a bad player and some of the stick he got on here and in person absolutely reeked. Should be ashamed.
"Never a bad player". I presume you're joking there.
I always said he was probably a very nice person, just a terrible player for Alty.
I'm glad he seems to have found a team he can play better for.
This
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I'd argue the goal Dinanga scored was exactly the type he'd score for us - given acres of space from Kyle Ferguson to comfortably get a shot away.
He'd probably have missed the ones Hugill / Linney did.
The extreme poles of opinion on here were quite something - worst to ever wear the shirt... really? - but at the same time we were right to take the fee when the opportunity arose. I think most of us will be pleased to see him doing well there, but Regan Linney is loads better.
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I need to watch the highlights as I was at the game and Parky said we were brilliant superb outstanding....Hope he's right..It didnt thrill me yesterday..I know the defence was down to bare bones but...
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Personally I thought PP was a bit exaggerating how well we played yesterday and how well their keeper did. He certainly made a few decent saves, but overall I thought Byrne was the busier keeper especially in the 1st half. We missed some decent chances especially the Hugill chance in the 1st half but we could have very easily been 2 0 down, at that point, when they should have scored with the header which hit the bar. Overall I think a draw was the most we deserved.
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We seem to be the club where he has been least successful.
We are also, I believe, the only club to have t
ried to play him up front on his own.
Coincidence?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6czi9iu_kWA
Some superb Pitch level highlights from Gateshead of yesterday's game here. (Would love to see more of this kind of thing for our games, adding to the already excellent Alty TV highlights of course)
Lots of chances for both sides yesterday, unfortunately Gateshead took one of theirs and we couldn't with both sides playing some really attractive football.
Overall, we're still a work in progress but despite that have still had one of our best National League seasons this century. Would love us to finish 13th or above this year and hit the 60 point mark, that would represent excellent progress on last season.
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I think a lack of options off the bench didn't help due the maximum allowed loan players. This needs addressing for next season. I couldn't though understand bringing on Osborne?
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I think a lack of options off the bench didn't help due the maximum allowed loan players. This needs addressing for next season. I couldn't though understand bringing on Osborne?
I never understand us bringing on Osborne.
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Some finish from the wOrST eVeR aLtRiNcHaM pLaYeR…….
So glad I didn't have to be the only one to say this.
7 in 12 is a decent return for them...
👍 Look, we were right to let him go as he simply wasn’t converting for us. But he was always on the end of chances and had the second highest xG (if you rea
d into it) in the League after Langstaff. Clearly a confidence player that never clicked at Alty.
Never a bad player and some of the stick he got on here and in person absolutely reeked. Should be ashamed.
"Never a bad player". I presume you're joking there.
I always said he was probably a very nice person, just a terrible player for Alty.
I'm glad he seems to have found a team he can play better for.
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Did'nt rate him much personally but to label him our ' worst ever ' is well o.t.t. in my opinion . The likes of George Hudson , Ted Dickin , Dick Young , Dave Furnival , Wayne Entwistle , John McAliskey and maybe George Bowerman and Joe Piggott (second spell ) all spring to mind. I'm sure there were others too.
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We seem to be the club where he has been least successful.
We are also, I believe, the only club to have t
ried to play him up front on his own.
Coincidence?
I did think this myself.
Both him & Jordan up front taking the workload off each other might have been more useful in hindsight, but I suspect we still would have arrived in the same place with him and we have Regan Linney now.
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Some finish from the wOrST eVeR aLtRiNcHaM pLaYeR…….
So glad I didn't have to be the only one to say this.
7 in 12 is a decent return for them...
👍 Look, we were right to let him go as he simply wasn’t converting for us. But he was always on the end of chances and had the second highest xG (if you rea
d into it) in the League after Langstaff. Clearly a confidence player that never clicked at Alty.
Never a bad player and some of the stick he got on here and in person absolutely reeked. Should be ashamed.
"Never a bad player". I presume you're joking there.
I always said he was probably a very nice person, just a terrible player for Alty.
I'm glad he seems to have found a team he can play better for.
This
Did'nt rate him much personally but to label him our ' worst ever ' is well o.t.t. in my opinion . The likes of George Hudson , Ted Dickin , Dick Young , Dave Furnival , Wayne Entwistle , John McAliskey and maybe George Bowerman and Joe Piggott (second spell ) all spring to mind. I'm sure there were others too.
Of course most of the above examples were part-time players whereas Marcus was on a two year contract. On that basis he deserved every ounce of the criticism levelled at him. I could name you another dozen strikers to have graced our turf who were far worse than him (Darren Royle particularly !) but to find a comparably poor striker on a lucrative contract the only comparison was Michael ("I ate all the pies and asked for more") Twiss.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6czi9iu_kWA
Some superb Pitch level highlights from Gateshead of yesterday's game here. (Would love to see more of this kind of thing for our games, adding to the already excellent Alty TV highlights of course)
Lots of chances for both sides yesterday, unfortunately Gateshead took one of theirs and we couldn't with both sides playing some really attractive football.
Overall, we're still a work in progress but despite that have still had one of our best National League seasons this century. Would love us to finish 13th or above this year and hit the 60 point mark, that would represent excellent progress on last season.
So, the secret to winning appears to be having Cher in your changing room...
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Some finish from the wOrST eVeR aLtRiNcHaM pLaYeR…….
So glad I didn't have to be the only one to say this.
7 in 12 is a decent return for them...
👍 Look, we were right to let him go as he simply wasn’t converting for us. But he was always on the end of chances and had the second highest xG (if you rea
d into it) in the League after Langstaff. Clearly a confidence player that never clicked at Alty.
Never a bad player and some of the stick he got on here and in person absolutely reeked. Should be ashamed.
"Never a bad player". I presume you're joking there.
I always said he was probably a very nice person, just a terrible player for Alty.
I'm glad he seems to have found a team he can play better for.
This
Did'nt rate him much personally but to label him our ' worst ever ' is well o.t.t. in my opinion . The likes of George Hudson , Ted Dickin , Dick Young , Dave Furnival , Wayne Entwistle , John McAliskey and maybe George Bowerman and Joe Piggott (second spell ) all spring to mind. I'm sure there were others too.
Of course most of the above examples were part-time players whereas Marcus was on a two year contract. On that basis he deserved every ounce of the criticism levelled at him. I could name you another dozen strikers to have graced our turf who were far worse than him (Darren Royle particularly !) but to find a comparably poor striker on a lucrative contract the only comparison was Michael ("I ate all the pies and asked for more") Twiss.
Ah yes , they were garbage . Another 'dirty dozen' though . Your memory is far better than mine tbh.
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Dinanga had his critics and quite rightly so . He had pretty much zero composure in front of goal for us . He even managed to blaze over the bar in his last game in the Cheshire Senior Cup with the goal at his mercy.
That said he was also massively encouraged largely on the terraces and must have been the most sung about player in many many games.
He just could not cut it for us
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6czi9iu_kWA
Some superb Pitch level highlights from Gateshead of yesterday's game here. (Would love to see more of this kind of thing for our games, adding to the already excellent Alty TV highlights of course)
Lots of chances for both sides yesterday, unfortunately Gateshead took one of theirs and we couldn't with both sides playing some really attractive football.
Overall, we're still a work in progress but despite that have still had one of our best National League seasons this century. Would love us to finish 13th or above this year and hit the 60 point mark, that would represent excellent progress on last season.
So, the secret to winning appears to be having Cher in your changing room...
Maybe live and only after the game as a win bonus 🤣
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Maybe something to note is also Dinanga's cocky "I will score goals" interview when he first signed. I'm deffo not of the opinion that he's the worst Alty player I've seen though...
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Maybe something to note is also Dinanga's cocky "I will score goals" interview when he first signed. I'm deffo not of the opinion that he's the worst Alty player I've seen though...
I quite liked him when he was at Alty, but he was so damn frustrating. Wouldn't have him back though, we can do better.
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Let's not pretend the criticism thing is suddenly new to us - or any other club, for that matter.
Those of us of a 'middling' kind of vintage will remember a certain Leroy Chambers, who enjoyed a decent goal return on the whole for us but you wouldn't go a week on the terraces without someone calling him a donkey.
He came back to haunt us too, albeit that was for Frickley - so at least we're seeing karma bite us on the arse at a slightly different level these days...
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after following football for about fifty years i never pretend that i understand it. how are gatehead getting it so right at the moment?
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after following football for about fifty years i never pretend that i understand it. how are gatehead getting it so right at the moment?
They're on an absolute mad one, so hopefully tonight's 5-2 win for them at Eastleigh puts the Saturday result into context a little more.
I suppose little tweaks to the balance of a lineup can have really amplifying effects - whatever it is, they've definitely found the formula of late.
Or sometimes the Gods just really shine on you - there really wasn't anything in Saturday's game judging by the highlights, sometimes it just goes for you.
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after following football for about fifty years i never pretend that i understand it. how are gatehead getting it so right at the moment?
Super Marcus! 😉
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after following football for about fifty years i never pretend that i understand it. how are gatehead getting it so right at the moment?
They're on an absolute mad one, so hopefully tonight's 5-2 win for them at Eastleigh puts the Saturday result into context a little more.
I suppose little tweaks to the balance of a lineup can have really amplifying effects - whatever it is, they've definitely found the formula of late.
Or sometimes the Gods just really shine on you - there really wasn't anything in Saturday's game judging by the highlights, sometimes it just goes for you.
I know where you are coming from with the 'game in context' comment and with Halifax beating Wrexham also.......but for me both games against Gateshead and Halifax should have been won with better finishing. At worst we should be at Wembley and have taken a point Monday
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after following football for about fifty years i never pretend that i understand it. how are gatehead getting it so right at the moment?
They're on an absolute mad one, so hopefully tonight's 5-2 win for them at Eastleigh puts the Saturday result into context a little more.
I suppose little tweaks to the balance of a lineup can have really amplifying effects - whatever it is, they've definitely found the formula of late.
Or sometimes the Gods just really shine on you - there really wasn't anything in Saturday's game judging by the highlights, sometimes it just goes for you.
I know where you are coming from with the 'game in context' comment and with Halifax beating Wrexham also.......but for me both games against Gateshead and Halifax should have been won with better finishing. At worst we should be at Wembley and have taken a point Monday
Exactly that , poor finishing in both games cost us , more so of course in the Trophy where Halifax 'stole' a trip to Wembley . Hope Gateshead win their first Trophy final , on a brilliant run and with crowds of 1,200 most likely in our ball park re finance i would think.
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after following football for about fifty years i never pretend that i understand it. how are gatehead getting it so right at the moment?
They're on an absolute mad one, so hopefully tonight's 5-2 win for them at Eastleigh puts the Saturday result into context a little more.
I suppose little tweaks to the balance of a lineup can have really amplifying effects - whatever it is, they've definitely found the formula of late.
Or sometimes the Gods just really shine on you - there really wasn't anything in Saturday's game judging by the highlights, sometimes it just goes for you.
I know where you are coming from with the 'game in context' comment and with Halifax beating Wrexham also.......but for me both games against Gateshead and Halifax should have been won with better finishing. At worst we should be at Wembley and have taken a point Monday
Agree Mick, Parky has said all season, not being clinical has cost us at key moments, two you mention.
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Start Jordan with Linney and bring Hugill on about 65 minutes this should solve our scoring problems
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With the best will in the world Hugill is never going to be a permanent fixture at Moss lane, I would keep Linney in the team, he is our no1 striker and he needs regular games so that he can get stronger and used to playing against the standard of defenders in our league. I’m all for the connection with MUFC regards loans etc but people like Linney who are our future, need to play. By all means play Joe Hugill but not at the expense of Regan.
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^^^^ This, definitely!
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With the best will in the world Hugill is never going to be a permanent fixture at Moss lane, I would keep Linney in the team, he is our no1 striker and he needs regular games so that he can get stronger and used to playing against the standard of defenders in our league. I’m all for the connection with MUFC regards loans etc but people like Linney who are our future, need to play. By all means play Joe Hugill but not at the expense of Regan.
With the best will in the world, Hugill is never going to be a permanent fixture at United either.
To stand any chance of making it at that sort of level, he should be shining for us like Maxi is.
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If we're going to persist with Hugill, I would be tempted to play him almost as a winger - his speed is the main thing he brings to the table, and it isn't being utilised. After seeing that atrocious miss on Monday (I hate to say it, but Marcus would have put it away) I've reluctantly concluded that he's not the top class striker we thought we were getting.
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All I want from the team at the moment is to get that final win and 3 points to make us safe this season.
I have found it a little frustrating that for whatever reason of those already mentioned, we have been unable to go further than our current 13th league position. I hope we get those 3 points soon, hopefully at Dorking.
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We're certainly not going down but I'm becoming increasingly concerned that we don't seem to be committed to bettering last seasons tally and position.
The margins are very narrow in this league and I can possibly see us losing the next four matches as we will be playing teams who each have something to play for. We, at the moment, don't seem to share that imperative.
PS. Success in the Senior Cup, for me, would be scant consolation.
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We're certainly not going down but I'm becoming increasingly concerned that we don't seem to be committed to bettering last seasons tally and position.
The margins are very narrow in this league and I can possibly see us losing the next four matches as we will be playing teams who each have something to play for. We, at the moment, don't seem to share that imperative.
PS. Success in the Senior Cup, for me, would be scant consolation.
For scant read zero.
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We're certainly not going down but I'm becoming increasingly concerned that we don't seem to be committed to bettering last seasons tally and position.
The margins are very narrow in this league and I can possibly see us losing the next four matches as we will be playing teams who each have something to play for. We, at the moment, don't seem to share that imperative.
PS. Success in the Senior Cup, for me, would be scant consolation.
I think we've been trying. Poor finishing against Fax and Gateshead let us down. Oldham we were poor until last 10 minutes. Hopefully a good performance coming up. They should be playing for next years contracts.
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If we're going to persist with Hugill, I would be tempted to play him almost as a winger - his speed is the main thing he brings to the table, and it isn't being utilised. After seeing that atrocious miss on Monday (I hate to say it, but Marcus would have put it away) I've reluctantly concluded that he's not the top class striker we thought we were getting.
Gateshead Marcus, yes. Altrincham Marcus, no.