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Title: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on March 15, 2016, 07:51:34 AM
Braintree v Gateshead
Dover v Lincoln
Eastleigh v Bromley
Guiseley v Grimsby
Torquay v Halifax

As well wanting a draw between Torquay and Halifax, and a defeat for Guiseley. We could do with Braintree cementing their playoff off place and Eastleigh and Dover being out of it by the time we play them.
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: Jimmy on March 15, 2016, 08:09:25 AM
Pete I'd say it's time to stop worrying,the club isn't
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: taxi Phil on March 15, 2016, 09:01:53 AM
Pete I'd say it's time to stop worrying,the club isn't
As pissed off as I am Jim, I wouldn't go that far. And the more I contemplate the joys of Curzon  Ashton, the more I realise we HAVE to cling to the hope of escape.
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: Jimmy on March 15, 2016, 09:12:16 AM
Phil I will still be going apart from the 2 games round Easter because of work
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: Alty Dave on March 15, 2016, 09:48:38 AM
The results will be what they are, we can still get out of this mess. Come on you Robins.
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: B. 4D on March 15, 2016, 09:59:48 AM
LETS GET POSSITVE 😀.
We are still in the fight.
I'm sure the club hasn't thrown in the towel.
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: ManagementGuru on March 15, 2016, 10:42:02 AM
Agreed Alty Dave and B4D.

We have had our time to complain, to moan, to bewail our fate.

But we are reslilent, we are tough, we are Alty

The fightback starts here - come on you red and white beauties!
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: VofD on March 15, 2016, 10:59:52 AM
Agreed Alty Dave and B4D.

We have had our time to complain, to moan, to bewail our fate.

But we are reslilent, we are tough, we are Alty

The fightback starts here - come on you red and white beauties!

We used to be, when we had some decent players. But not with this current lot and "manager". >:(
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: ManagementGuru on March 15, 2016, 11:57:43 AM
I meant the fans (to start with)!
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: taxi Phil on March 15, 2016, 11:58:57 AM
Aldershot don't score many, let in 8 at Chester last week, and apparently struggled to take a point from Torquay on Saturday. We simply HAVE to win this one and get that confidence boost we so badly need.
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: Ballers on March 15, 2016, 12:55:47 PM
Well with Torquay v Halifax tonight, realistically whichever of the three possible outcomes abound it means the situation is going to get worse tonight before it gets better.  :(
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on March 15, 2016, 04:10:42 PM

Braintree v Gateshead
Dover v Lincoln
Eastleigh v Bromley
Guiseley v Grimsby
Torquay v Halifax

As well wanting a draw between Torquay and Halifax, and a defeat for Guiseley. We could do with Braintree cementing their playoff off place and Eastleigh and Dover being out of it by the time we play them.



I'd actually disagree with that wish, based on the following reasoning.

On the premise that rejuvenated Halifax will proceed to ease comfortably away from the relegation zone, I'd prefer them to win in Devon this evening as I view Torquay and Boreham Wood as the two clubs that we have to target finishing above.

Therefore, we really don't want Torquay picking up any point(s).

We desperately need to see Guiseley dragged into the relegation mire ASAP.






  


Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on March 15, 2016, 04:14:42 PM

LETS GET POSSITVE 😀.
We are still in the fight.


I'm sure the club hasn't thrown in the towel.





I suspect that the club towel was thrown into Anthony Griffith's bag when he left to pursue his fitness classes at Hale Country Club.


Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: Hash on March 15, 2016, 05:28:52 PM
my god havent most of you turned in to defeatists , thats quite ......... sad yes things dont look good but there is always a chance and tbh im surprised some of you can actually watch the football match we are apparently that bad and no one knows whats going on and its a shambles and the team is clueless the management shocking and the chairman apparently become the son of Satan ...... how about  YOU ALL GET A f**kING GRIP seriously ive never seen a bigger bunch of wet arses , if you dont like the situation stop watching ,  you guys are becoming the male version of loose women  ... end of rant
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: B. 4D on March 15, 2016, 05:48:02 PM
my god havent most of you turned in to defeatists , thats quite ......... sad yes things dont look good but there is always a chance and tbh im surprised some of you can actually watch the football match we are apparently that bad and no one knows whats going on and its a shambles and the team is clueless the management shocking and the chairman apparently become the son of Satan ...... how about  YOU ALL GET A f**kING GRIP seriously ive never seen a bigger bunch of wet arses , if you dont like the situation stop watching ,  you guys are becoming the male version of loose women  ... end of rant


Spot on👍
Thank you😀
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on March 15, 2016, 05:55:36 PM

my god havent most of you turned in to defeatists , thats quite ......... sad yes things dont look good but there is always a chance and tbh im surprised some of you can actually watch the football match we are apparently that bad and no one knows whats going on and its a shambles and the team is clueless the management shocking and the chairman apparently become the son of Satan ...... how about  YOU ALL GET A f**kING GRIP seriously ive never seen a bigger bunch of wet arses , if you dont like the situation stop watching ,  you guys are becoming the male version of loose women  ... end of rant



Well, I can only presume that your forum name derives from the substance that you appear to be smoking?

And I'd feel more confident of staying up if Alty had appointed Janet Street Porter as their new manager.
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: Toff Apple on March 15, 2016, 06:00:22 PM
Lets go doom and gloom as and when its mathematically too late. 
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: Hash on March 15, 2016, 06:18:30 PM

my god havent most of you turned in to defeatists , thats quite ......... sad yes things dont look good but there is always a chance and tbh im surprised some of you can actually watch the football match we are apparently that bad and no one knows whats going on and its a shambles and the team is clueless the management shocking and the chairman apparently become the son of Satan ...... how about  YOU ALL GET A f**kING GRIP seriously ive never seen a bigger bunch of wet arses , if you dont like the situation stop watching ,  you guys are becoming the male version of loose women  ... end of rant



Well, I can only presume that your forum name derives from the substance that you appear to be smoking?

And I'd feel more confident of staying up if Alty had appointed Janet Street Porter as their new manager.





lets not look at the names now shall we  , when you are named after one of the worst forwards in alty history your reply sums everything up ive just typed get back in the kitchen

btw my surname is brown and you can blame the likes of jimmy and friends for the nick name
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: Jimmy on March 15, 2016, 07:45:39 PM
my god havent most of you turned in to defeatists , thats quite ......... sad yes things dont look good but there is always a chance and tbh im surprised some of you can actually watch the football match we are apparently that bad and no one knows whats going on and its a shambles and the team is clueless the management shocking and the chairman apparently become the son of Satan ...... how about  YOU ALL GET A f**kING GRIP seriously ive never seen a bigger bunch of wet arses , if you dont like the situation stop watching ,  you guys are becoming the male version of loose women  ... end of rant
Hash the problem for me is not the players it's what we've become as a club.
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: Trouty on March 15, 2016, 07:54:31 PM
Guiseley 1 up
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: Hash on March 15, 2016, 07:58:31 PM
my god havent most of you turned in to defeatists , thats quite ......... sad yes things dont look good but there is always a chance and tbh im surprised some of you can actually watch the football match we are apparently that bad and no one knows whats going on and its a shambles and the team is clueless the management shocking and the chairman apparently become the son of Satan ...... how about  YOU ALL GET A f**kING GRIP seriously ive never seen a bigger bunch of wet arses , if you dont like the situation stop watching ,  you guys are becoming the male version of loose women  ... end of rant
Hash the problem for me is not the players it's what we've become as a club.
Jim i completely understand and respect everyone's view but this forum is getting a little tedious when its just a constant barrage and the fact
( the thing that pisses me of) when someone has a different view people try to make it personal as the above comment seems spreading horrible disgusting accusations about my social habits the man is a cyber bully but yes it dosnt look good but why not wait till the end of the season when things can be done becuase they have there hands tied with monetary restraints , player restraints but change the club the way people may want .... btw the cyber bullying comment was a joke.
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: Altyrocket on March 15, 2016, 08:07:55 PM
Guiseley1 - 1Grimsby
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: SW on March 15, 2016, 08:20:35 PM
Never known the atmosphere on this forum to be as bad as this, perhaps we ought to get together, support the players and staff and hope we can get home and dry. Squabbling will not change where things are, we have no say so. Get together, try and get some mates along on Saturday and support the team.
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: GB Alty on March 15, 2016, 08:31:00 PM
Never known the atmosphere on this forum to be as bad as this, perhaps we ought to get together, support the players and staff and hope we can get home and dry. Squabbling will not change where things are, we have no say so. Get together, try and get some mates along on Saturday and support the team.
we have no say?

It's supposed to be our club as the chairman has told us many times - but you now saying we supporters have no say?
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: im not really here on March 15, 2016, 08:52:24 PM
It's our club when the Chairman, wants it to be, usually when money or volunteers are needed, but also he's quite happy to show contempt to the fans at will too. Don't be fooled into thinking that things will change in the Summer and we'll suddenly remember we're a football club again, if I anted to support a tinpot family club with no ambition I'd have gone to watch one of the Tameside clubs long ago.
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: Altyrocket on March 15, 2016, 08:57:09 PM
Guiseley 2 - 1 Grimsby
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: bumble on March 15, 2016, 09:00:12 PM
Guiseley 2 - 1 Grimsby


FT
 
2-2
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on March 15, 2016, 09:41:59 PM
Torq 0-0 Halifax FT
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: Nom de plume on March 15, 2016, 10:19:57 PM
This is the wrong thread to post this but the only one Hash has posted on, and I want to echo his view - though he may not agree with everything I say and will tell me so on Saturday  ;D

Firstly, let me say that I don't think Tolson is the man to lead this team to any sort of glory, or even safety, but I do think that this club owes the Rowley family and the rest of the board a huge vote of thanks and they should not be pilloried for their decision to appoint him or for other decisions made on our behalf. The community hall is a long-term project and will be a welcome revenue stream for the club. There will be support for all of the soccer teams as a consequence - difficult to quantify, I know, but no reason not to support it or its foundation.

This does not mean that we are no longer a football club. It means that we are a caring club trying to establish roots in the community. Why is that so wrong? And if our caring board wants to do what it considers 'right' by Neil Tolson, why shouldn't it? It's all part of putting goodness ahead of the cutthroat business that football has become, to the detriment of decency and goodwill.

Clearly Grahame Rowley is a 'nice' bloke and and his actions make us a club to envy - remember the Colwyn Bay incident when the ref got injured, remember the very recent incident in the Guiseley/Braintree game. Would you want to be associated with those clubs? Grahame Rowley said at the AGM (I was there) that it is imperative that this club stays in the National League so there is no lack of ambition from him.

And if the board wants to give away fans part of the Popular Side, let them. It's called decency. You dozen or so singers can go elsewhere. I think you may have an elevated sense of your own importance and influence.
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: im not really here on March 15, 2016, 10:48:16 PM
I am fully behind the football club's community work, I proposed it to the previous board and work in community investment in my day job, doing voluntary work and fundraising. I have nothing against the sports hall, but would question what kind of revenue stream that will bring to the club. The hall is a charity in its own right and will surely invest its income within. Our caring 'board' doing right by Neil Tolson makes us look tinpot, we should want the best manager we can afford, which is what any organisation should want not just a football club. You say you don't agree with his appointment but thank the Rowley family for making it anyway. I don't know him personally but whether Grahame Rowley is a nice bloke or not has nothing to do with it, when was the last time we had a new board member from 'outside' the club? Why are we scared of attracting new investment?

The popular side issue has got ridiculous, I'm not precious about it but no other club would have that situation.
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: taxi Phil on March 15, 2016, 10:54:34 PM
What makes you think we're scared of attracting new investment ? I'm sure we'd welcome it with open arms. But it isn't out there. We're situated in a "rich" area....it's full of people who only care about the Premier League. Their money, their privilege, our misfortune.
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: im not really here on March 15, 2016, 10:57:06 PM
Have we asked anyone? People aren't just going to turn up at the ground and say "here's some money".
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: Jimmy on March 15, 2016, 11:10:55 PM
This is the wrong thread to post this but the only one Hash has posted on, and I want to echo his view - though he may not agree with everything I say and will tell me so on Saturday  ;D

Firstly, let me say that I don't think Tolson is the man to lead this team to any sort of glory, or even safety, but I do think that this club owes the Rowley family and the rest of the board a huge vote of thanks and they should not be pilloried for their decision to appoint him or for other decisions made on our behalf. The community hall is a long-term project and will be a welcome revenue stream for the club. There will be support for all of the soccer teams as a consequence - difficult to quantify, I know, but no reason not to support it or its foundation.

This does not mean that we are no longer a football club. It means that we are a caring club trying to establish roots in the community. Why is that so wrong? And if our caring board wants to do what it considers 'right' by Neil Tolson, why shouldn't it? It's all part of putting goodness ahead of the cutthroat business that football has become, to the detriment of decency and goodwill.

Clearly Grahame Rowley is a 'nice' bloke and and his actions make us a club to envy - remember the Colwyn Bay incident when the ref got injured, remember the very recent incident in the Guiseley/Braintree game. Would you want to be associated with those clubs? Grahame Rowley said at the AGM (I was there) that it is imperative that this club stays in the National League so there is no lack of ambition from him.

And if the board wants to give away fans part of the Popular Side, let them. It's called decency. You dozen or so singers can go elsewhere. I think you may have an elevated sense of your own importance and influence.
on the associated with that type of club,we all got by when we got the ludicrous goal against Alferton
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on March 15, 2016, 11:13:44 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qD5GtohtRYU
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: GB Alty on March 15, 2016, 11:20:42 PM
What makes you think we're scared of attracting new investment ? I'm sure we'd welcome it with open arms. But it isn't out there. We're situated in a "rich" area....it's full of people who only care about the Premier League. Their money, their privilege, our misfortune.
I don't believe that at all, the club does nothing to attract outside investment, the club now has a culture that any investment would be bad news, that any new investor could not be trusted. You only have to read some posts on this forum to see that.

Rowley talks in the paper that 'we are a different kind of club' - he is right, we don't want outsiders involved with their money to ruin the clique - were a closed shop!
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: Mick on March 16, 2016, 12:24:35 AM

And if the board wants to give away fans part of the Popular Side, let them. It's called decency. You dozen or so singers can go elsewhere. I think you may have an elevated sense of your own importance and influence.

Bury........you need to re-think this one

I am not one of the 'dozen' singers, nor am I important or influential in terms of my individual contribution to the club or the team - no elevated sense of importance here!

I am though a season ticket holder who stands in the same place on the Popside at every home game and I have to say that I don't particularly like being moved to a position where my view is restricted by scaffolding and columns, to allow away supporters (who come once a year) to stay in shelter and then end up with a view that is so much better than my own.

If the police insist, then I respect that - Otherwise I would argue, let's keep it 'decent' for the paying regulars of AFC before worrying about how 'decent' we behave towards other clubs' supporters
Many of these clubs insist that as away supporters we are seated and then they charge us more for seating than they do their own supporters. It's maybe only a quid, but there is a principle at stake here and it is not right. There are also clubs who charge our fans extra to move to dry areas of the ground once the torrential rain arrives.
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: Bob on March 16, 2016, 04:30:00 AM
This is the wrong thread to post this but the only one Hash has posted on, and I want to echo his view - though he may not agree with everything I say and will tell me so on Saturday  ;D

Firstly, let me say that I don't think Tolson is the man to lead this team to any sort of glory, or even safety, but I do think that this club owes the Rowley family and the rest of the board a huge vote of thanks and they should not be pilloried for their decision to appoint him or for other decisions made on our behalf. The community hall is a long-term project and will be a welcome revenue stream for the club. There will be support for all of the soccer teams as a consequence - difficult to quantify, I know, but no reason not to support it or its foundation.

This does not mean that we are no longer a football club. It means that we are a caring club trying to establish roots in the community. Why is that so wrong? And if our caring board wants to do what it considers 'right' by Neil Tolson, why shouldn't it? It's all part of putting goodness ahead of the cutthroat business that football has become, to the detriment of decency and goodwill.

Clearly Grahame Rowley is a 'nice' bloke and and his actions make us a club to envy - remember the Colwyn Bay incident when the ref got injured, remember the very recent incident in the Guiseley/Braintree game. Would you want to be associated with those clubs? Grahame Rowley said at the AGM (I was there) that it is imperative that this club stays in the National League so there is no lack of ambition from him.

And if the board wants to give away fans part of the Popular Side, let them. It's called decency. You dozen or so singers can go elsewhere. I think you may have an elevated sense of your own importance and influence.

I agree with you about the CSH. It is a vital part of our future and long may it continue. I also believe the Chairman and board want us to stay up and i do not question the very hard work they put in.  I am usually positive and optimistic about this club but many things about the last week have left me deflated.

Sinnott left but we couldnt even say officially straight off how he left. Sacked? Quit? Nothing. That just caused unnecessary confusion and speculation.

We then hear about Tolsons appointment second hand via the BBC and NLP. The reasons given  in the NLP for him getting the job were unbelievable. It came across, in my opinion, as a weak, cosy decision based partly on non footballing reasons. We need inspiration right now and have been given none.

I'm afraid football always has been a cutthroat business on the pitch, and it should be. You appoint managers and coaches on their ability to do the job and get results, not to be nice to them. What next, not drop or get rid of players? Making hard, vital football decisions out of goodness and being caring is lunacy in my view.

There is nothing wrong with treating away fans well. But the scaffolding and fencing on the pop side is such that if you give away fans the far end then the home fans are pushed back and have a badly restricted view. The away fans are treated better than home fans in effect. Not intentional but it alienates a lot of regulars, not just singers.
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on March 16, 2016, 08:24:16 AM
If we do go down I fear we won't even become a yo yoclub and it could take five years plus to reach this level without financial investment.
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: CB on March 16, 2016, 09:48:57 AM
With regards to the CSH, there is still a huge shortfall in paying for it. We're not going to see any benefit from that to the club in the short term.
Title: Re: Tuesday matches thread
Post by: beaker141 on March 16, 2016, 10:34:20 AM
With regards to the CSH, there is still a huge shortfall in paying for it. We're not going to see any benefit from that to the club in the short term.

I disagree on both those points. 

It was stated recently on here, http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=21110.msg245502#msg245502  "Just to clarify the CSH element of this discussion, the £110k that has been mentioned is the figure outstanding at the end of the last financial year (May 2015). This has now reduced to £36k, as a result of final grant payments, sponsorship, further fund raisers, etc. These repayments have not impacted the AFC playing budget, nor will they, and the completion of repayments is on schedule for early next year. "


The bar and catering on a matchday as I understand it go direct to the club - there is no way the Noel White Suite could have been taking the same amount of business thats now going through the CSH.

We've had the televised Alty matches on in there, with breakfast and a great club atmosphere.