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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Mr Woolf on March 14, 2015, 05:09:01 PM
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......as a club we can't keep away fans out of the home end is beyond me
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Seems to me they pay to get in the stand, go for a half time drink and then can't get back in their seat. Games are either segregated or they are not. I like standing on the Chequers End terrace. Maybe next game i'll just pay to go in the away end.
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There were a load of them in the bar at half time as well luckily no trouble but they have history
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Arsed
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Pay to get into the stands they are not segregated
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The answer is to make all away fans enter through the away turnstiles, the charge them a lot extra if they want to sit. This happens at many away games we go to.
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It is obvious how they get in.......as long as they didn't wave their Wrexham scarves in the turnstile operators face and say "there's lovely".....or similar for whoever we are playing...
The problem has been (in my experience) getting them shifted once they congregate in a group.....and are clearly up for mischief.
normally of course it's not a problem and indeed many games become unsegregated which is generally applauded by most.
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The answer long term is seats behind the goal with terracing above it like at macclesfield, anyone then found to be in any other section of the ground should be either escorted to the away end of ejected. There seems to be reoccurring them amongst ex fl clubs supporters that they can just go where they want. Until a roof and seats is made available specifically for travelling supporters you'll always have this problem
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The answer long term is seats behind the goal with terracing above it like at macclesfield, anyone then found to be in any other section of the ground should be either escorted to the away end of ejected. There seems to be reoccurring them amongst ex fl clubs supporters that they can just go where they want. Until a roof and seats is made available specifically for travelling supporters you'll always have this problem
I am absolutely against putting a roof on the Chequers End. The suggestions of putting some seating in the away section has some merit to it but isn't top of the list of ground improvements.
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The answer long term is seats behind the goal with terracing above it like at macclesfield, anyone then found to be in any other section of the ground should be either escorted to the away end of ejected. There seems to be reoccurring them amongst ex fl clubs supporters that they can just go where they want. Until a roof and seats is made available specifically for travelling supporters you'll always have this problem
I am absolutely against putting a roof on the Chequers End. The suggestions of putting some seating in the away section has some merit to it but isn't top of the list of ground improvements.
If we put a roof on the away end we'd get rid of the daft situation where home supporters are shuffled all the way down the Popular Side so that away supporters don't get wet.
Anyway, I suspect getting a roof on the Chequers End might not be the easiest thing to do in terms of planning.
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The answer long term is seats behind the goal with terracing above it like at macclesfield, anyone then found to be in any other section of the ground should be either escorted to the away end of ejected. There seems to be reoccurring them amongst ex fl clubs supporters that they can just go where they want. Until a roof and seats is made available specifically for travelling supporters you'll always have this problem
I am absolutely against putting a roof on the Chequers End. The suggestions of putting some seating in the away section has some merit to it but isn't top of the list of ground improvements.
If we put a roof on the away end we'd get rid of the daft situation where home supporters are shuffled all the way down the Popular Side so that away supporters don't get wet.
Anyway, I suspect getting a roof on the Chequers End might not be the easiest thing to do in terms of planning.
I strongly suspect that a roof any higher than the existing terrace would struggle to get planning consent as the people in the housing behind would have good grounds for complaint.
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Somehow there should be segregation in the seating area, We ended up with Wrexham fans around us on Saturday, smug they were with there snide comments. One day there will be trouble. It spoilt it for me on Saturday along with the performance.
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Arsed
In the past few years, home fans have been assaulted by away fans that have infiltrated our section of the ground. You should be arsed.
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There is room to put a very small covered stand on the front of the flat section between the away end and the family stand with space for disabled supporters and carers on the front row and a row or two of seats behind which could be limited for supporters who have difficulty in standing for long periods.
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Arsed
What is it with all these arse comments? Went in the wrong pub in town? Run out of pile cream?
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On the subject of ground improvements, surely it is about time they clear that section in the Golf Rd end full of crap/ building materials etc. It's been like that for months now, and the CSH is long finished. Looks an unsightly mess and prob a hazard too. Also the areas on the popular side with wire mesh up everywhere. We could have a really tidy ground if we just cleaned up the unnecessary scruffy areas with a little effort.
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On the subject of ground improvements, surely it is about time they clear that section in the Golf Rd end full of crap/ building materials etc. It's been like that for months now, and the CSH is long finished. Looks an unsightly mess and prob a hazard too. Also the areas on the popular side with wire mesh up everywhere. We could have a really tidy ground if we just cleaned up the unnecessary scruffy areas with a little effort.
fair point
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Make the family stand an away stand if possible to segregate somehow ?
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Make the family stand an away stand if possible to segregate somehow ?
I've often thought this, put the families on the first rows of the main stand nearest the away dugouts, problem solved, there's minimal bad language in the main stand.that way the away sides have 100+ seats
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Make the family stand an away stand if possible to segregate somehow ?
I've often thought this, put the families on the first rows of the main stand nearest the away dugouts, problem solved, there's minimal bad language in the main stand.that way the away sides have 100+ seats
If it happened not sure which turnstile would be used ? I wouldnt have a problem with a roof over the chequers end but can see how some people would. Would prefer the popular side made like the middle part all the way and tv gantry sorted as first priority.
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Make the family stand an away stand if possible to segregate somehow ?
I've often thought this, put the families on the first rows of the main stand nearest the away dugouts, problem solved, there's minimal bad language in the main stand.that way the away sides have 100+ seats
They won't want to move the sponsers. They could easy use the away turnstiles to access seats in family stand they would just have to find a way to put
a secure segregation in.
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Make the family stand an away stand if possible to segregate somehow ?
I've often thought this, put the families on the first rows of the main stand nearest the away dugouts, problem solved, there's minimal bad language in the main stand.that way the away sides have 100+ seats
They won't want to move the sponsers. They could easy use the away turnstiles to access seats in family stand they would just have to find a way to put
a secure segregation in.
How about fencing off next to the front door of the sponsors lounge, giving the away supporters seats nearest the away end, charging them extra for sitting once inside the ground. The other seats could be used for the sponsors and families could be put in the front rows of the main stand as already suggested.
Having said this, why have we got to be so accommodating to away fans, particularly those from clubs who treat us badly?
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There is no ideal solution to this at all. I find it odd though that there can be a huge sterile area at times to keep rival fans apart on the terraces yet there is no segregation at all in the stands and people can go from the stand to terraced areas relatively easily anyway.
I agree with the suggestion of putting seats at the front of the chequers end and adding a roof. Then make that the only part of the ground for away fans.
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I sit in the family stand as my dad is unable to stand for long periods of time and is unable to make it up the steps in the main stand. It's bad enough that random away fans end up there (despite not paying for sitting and just walking through from the away end). Quite often we can be surrounded by away fans who don't appreciate that it's a family stand and start effing and jeffin and picking arguments with the Alty fans.
I see it's people who don't sit in the family stand who are quite happy for it to be handed over to away supporters, without thinking about the Alty fans that sit there.
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I sit in the family stand as my dad is unable to stand for long periods of time and is unable to make it up the steps in the main stand. It's bad enough that random away fans end up there (despite not paying for sitting and just walking through from the away end). Quite often we can be surrounded by away fans who don't appreciate that it's a family stand and start effing and jeffin and picking arguments with the Alty fans.
I see it's people who don't sit in the family stand who are quite happy for it to be handed over to away supporters, without thinking about the Alty fans that sit there.
When I go to Moss Lane I have my kids with me and I do sit in the family stand. My suggestion of segregating part of the family stand for away fans was to accommodate those away fans that need to sit, like you would at away grounds. Also my suggestion keeps them away from the main stand, segregation means they wont annoy you and keep them out of the bar. My first choice would be to keep the chequers end as it is and put away fans only in that section. The idea of putting a roof over the chequers end in not a good one as it would an adverse effect on the pitch, especially after frost and severe rain, as it stops the air circulation and drying process.
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A roof over the Chequers End? Why? haven't away fans got coats?
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A roof over the Chequers End? Why? haven't away fans got coats?
If they want to keep warm and dry I'm sure there is a Mecca bingo they can go to. Perhaps they'd prefer the Tudor Tea Rooms - I dunno, but it's a footy match they're coming to, not a tea party.
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I think it's something we should consider. Just as a common courtesy really.
I've been annoyed going to Southport in the past. Conference football is a pretty expensive do anyway without the indignity of getting piss wet through. I know they can pay to go in the stand, but if we have an away crowd of over about 200 this isn't really an option.
Lots of people who come to Alty will be making a day of it, not everyone at Moss Lane is coming from just opposite Stamford Park. If you're absolutely soaked it's going to make the rest of your day that you've probably spent about a hundred quid on a bit rubbish really.
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I doubt that planning permission would be approved for a roof over the Chequers end now the flats have been built. There's more pressing problems with that end.The concrete steps are in very poor condition.
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I doubt that planning permission would be approved for a roof over the Chequers end now the flats have been built. There's more pressing problems with that end. The concrete steps are in very poor condition.
Very true. Crumbling away, at some point that becomes a safety issue.