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Title: Question for pre-internet fans ....
Post by: gazwarrington on January 04, 2008, 03:38:17 PM
What do you prefer... Knowing who Alty have signed as it happens or when you used to get to the game and think "WOW, how we got him" ??

I prefer the turning up and being bemused that we have signed players. Imagine just turning up on New Years Day to all those new players !!
Title: Re: Question for pre-internet fans ....
Post by: MadFrankie on January 04, 2008, 04:05:59 PM
Dunno about you Gary, but I used to think "who the $%*! is that" on a regular basis.
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Post by: Amsterdam Alty on January 04, 2008, 04:08:09 PM
i enjoyed turning up going who the f is that then finding out something about him from a someone who overheard someone say something to someone about the player, but i do prefer to know who we have signed and what sort of quality they are before i turn up for the game.
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Post by: Darren on January 04, 2008, 04:11:31 PM
Its like the start to a season when you see them warming up and thinking who's who till they run out for k.o and see there name and number on there shirts. :D
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Post by: Alex on January 04, 2008, 04:33:16 PM
Its like the start to a season when you see them warming up and thinking who's who till they run out for k.o and see there name and number on there shirts. :D

it's like that in pre season anyways for example this year at Marine we had to ask val owen who was the lad playing on the left for us? to which val replied "not a clue, he just showed up with his boots".
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Post by: markecky on January 04, 2008, 05:40:51 PM
Its like the start to a season when you see them warming up and thinking who's who till they run out for k.o and see there name and number on there shirts. :D

it's like that in pre season anyways for example this year at Marine we had to ask val owen who was the lad playing on the left for us? to which val replied "not a clue, he just showed up with his boots".


That was me!
Title: Re: Question for pre-internet fans ....
Post by: Ballers on January 04, 2008, 05:44:58 PM
The left back from Skem?
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Post by: Stoneacre Lad on January 04, 2008, 09:12:17 PM
I agree with Gaz, much more exciting on the day when you saw an unfamilair face warming up and starting
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Post by: The Teasing Squad on January 04, 2008, 09:32:29 PM
Its bizarre how we take things for granted these days. This is a cool thread for a change. I seem to remember knowing stuff.

I remember that i used to wait for the messenger to come through the door, desperate for any news. The MEN used to come up with snippets as well. I think that signings were more sporadic in those days cos of the transfer window not being there. The difference was not knowing that much about the players or if they'd been any good in the eyes of other clubs fans. There seems to be so many more players knocking around these days too, does anyone else think that?

Obviously there was a few suprises as well. This leads to the question of WTF did poor john Laidlar do with his spare time before the internet?
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Post by: Stoneacre Lad on January 04, 2008, 09:42:18 PM
Lol, good shout. It used to be a case years ago of the same faces popping up at almost every top flight non league in the NW, sometimes for more than one spell aswell. I bumped into old boy Paul Rowlands a few months ago and we had a brief discussion on this subject. I believe he is now Assistant Manager or Coach at Rhyl.
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Post by: The Teasing Squad on January 04, 2008, 09:54:32 PM
Chin tickling of players was easy in those days, I seem to remember the 'Alty reject' chant getting a go almost every week, even the odd southern club had an alty reject. You'd play Witton or Vics and there would be 5 or 6 alty rejects on the pitch.

I admire Dean Greygoose so much for actually signing for alty after all the abuse he got from us. His first jog down to the golf road end in an alty shirt must have felt bizarre. I bet he still wore a chin guard just in case!
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Post by: Longman on January 04, 2008, 09:59:01 PM
Chin tickling of players was easy in those days, I seem to remember the 'Alty reject' chant getting a go almost every week, even the odd southern club had an alty reject. You'd play Witton or Vics and there would be 5 or 6 alty rejects on the pitch.

I admire Dean Greygoose so much for actually signing for alty after all the abuse he got from us. His first jog down to the golf road end in an alty shirt must have felt bizarre. I bet he still wore a chin guard just in case!

Ha ha, it's funny you should mention this, my first memory of Alty was standing in the Golf Road as a nipper with my Dad about 1994 I think and Greygoose was in net for Northwich I think??  He was getting loads of abuse off the Golf Road faithful, I also remember when we scored the lads would charge up and down singing "lets go f*cking mental", HA HA!!!
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Post by: markecky on January 04, 2008, 10:25:55 PM
Anyone else remember turning  up for the first game of a season to find we had sold Andy Green and Neil Morton to Barrow the day before?

There was fury!
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Post by: Stoneacre Lad on January 04, 2008, 10:34:28 PM
Sure do Ecky. You knew fcuk all about it in those days until you noticed they were'nt in your starting 11!  Those two were awesome when on top of their game. I recall lots of players ending up at Barrow in that era, talk about out of the frying pan into the fire lol
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Post by: hsmith1 on January 04, 2008, 10:58:09 PM
I really do miss not being able to get to the matches,seeing Alty players coming out of the Vics club before the games we used to have against them in the Cheshire league,and staggering through the game and i dont mean Jackie Swindells
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Post by: Ballers on January 04, 2008, 11:05:44 PM
Also, isn't it weird how there doesn't seem to be any more of that moving between Alty, Vics, Macc and Runcorn. Players used to rack 2 out of 4 up but it just does not seem to occur anymore. Ok Macc are on loan to the football league and runcorn have gone but the days of moving to your rivals have gone a la Eddie Bishop, Mike Farrelly, Nigel Shaw.

Whilst we do have a couple of ex Vics, Macc players (Tinson, Munroe, Owen, Sedgemore, Little) it just doesn't seem to happen the straightforward moves, last one would've been Terry/Talbot/Greygoose.

For example, re the Farrelly+Ellis for Mountford switch. Imagine hearing tomorrow that we'd signed Michael Carr in return for Chris Senior and Warren Peyton.

Seems bizarre now.
Title: Re: Question for pre-internet fans ....
Post by: Cheadle Hulme Alty on January 04, 2008, 11:20:01 PM
I remember back in the early/mid 60's the MEN used to print the teams out for all the local teams, including the non-league ones, in Friday's edition and it took an awful long time, and an explanation from my old fella I guess, for me to figure out who "A N Other" was as we seemed to have two or three of them playing every week!!!!!!! This was especially evident in the Freddie Pye days when we signed just about anyone who looked half decent.
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Post by: Dougals Dad on January 04, 2008, 11:27:59 PM
I remember back in the early/mid 60's the MEN used to print the teams out for all the local teams, including the non-league ones, in Friday's edition and it took an awful long time, and an explanation from my old fella I guess, for me to figure out who "A N Other" was as we seemed to have two or three of them playing every week!!!!!!! This was especially evident in the Freddie Pye days when we signed just about anyone who looked half decent.

Its like the "A Triallist" chap who seems to pop up on Soccer Saturday scoring for a few lowly Scottish clubs sometimes.

I would be lost without t'internet, especially being able to go to so few games
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Post by: hsmith1 on January 04, 2008, 11:36:07 PM
Ah good old Freddie Pie,i remember him throwing a bucket of water over Macc forward Brian Fiddler
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Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on January 05, 2008, 12:31:58 AM
I really do miss not being able to get to the matches,seeing Alty players coming out of the Vics club before the games we used to have against them in the Cheshire league,and staggering through the game and i dont mean Jackie Swindells

Are you referring to Johnny Worth, by any chance?
Title: Re: Question for pre-internet fans ....
Post by: hsmith1 on January 05, 2008, 09:48:03 AM
yes how did you guess?Cult
Title: Re: Question for pre-internet fans ....
Post by: Dougals Dad on January 05, 2008, 03:13:00 PM
I remember back in the early/mid 60's the MEN used to print the teams out for all the local teams, including the non-league ones, in Friday's edition and it took an awful long time, and an explanation from my old fella I guess, for me to figure out who "A N Other" was as we seemed to have two or three of them playing every week!!!!!!! This was especially evident in the Freddie Pye days when we signed just about anyone who looked half decent.

Its like the "A Triallist" chap who seems to pop up on Soccer Saturday scoring for a few lowly Scottish clubs sometimes.

I would be lost without t'internet, especially being able to go to so few games

He's scored for Cowdenbeath!
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Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on January 05, 2008, 04:01:58 PM
yes how did you guess?Cult

I have heard this story before from another source.

Quite a character, Johnny Worth!
Title: Re: Question for pre-internet fans ....
Post by: ManagementGuru on January 05, 2008, 05:48:51 PM
I still remember my only visit to Great Harwood in 77-78 when the only question about the starting eleven was Crossley or Brooke and seeing two0 unknowns on the pitch - larry garrity played his best game at Runcorn in the Trophy semi final second leg at Runcorn, although I loved his two goals off the bench for a 2-2 wth vics at moss lane.  I didn't appreciate his hat trick for Vics the following season in the 5-1 CSC SF 2nd replay defeat again at canal street.  Graham tobin, the other debutant came off the bench against Spurs at Maine Road.  And I was proud to pull on the number 12 shirt for Alty Supporters in our 12-4 win at Southport when those shorts were handed down to us - George Heslop was left back and neil thomason the coach of the supporters club team back then.

Also, Phil densmore running out at Chorley in FAC R1 in 84-85 and no-one had a clue who he was - now there was a left back discovered from nowhere (Ford motors - not even Vauxhall Motors!!)
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Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on January 05, 2008, 06:00:48 PM
I still remember my only visit to Great Harwood in 77-78 when the only question about the starting eleven was Crossley or Brooke and seeing two0 unknowns on the pitch - larry garrity played his best game at Runcorn in the Trophy semi final second leg at Runcorn, although I loved his two goals off the bench for a 2-2 wth vics at moss lane.  I didn't appreciate his hat trick for Vics the following season in the 5-1 CSC SF 2nd replay defeat again at canal street.  Graham tobin, the other debutant came off the bench against Spurs at Maine Road.  And I was proud to pull on the number 12 shirt for Alty Supporters in our 12-4 win at Southport when those shorts were handed down to us - George Heslop was left back and neil thomason the coach of the supporters club team back then.

Also, Phil densmore running out at Chorley in FAC R1 in 84-85 and no-one had a clue who he was - now there was a left back discovered from nowhere (Ford motors - not even Vauxhall Motors!!)

Bloody hell!

We've had a class left full back at the club all this time and not selected him.
Disgraceful.
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Post by: ManagementGuru on January 05, 2008, 06:09:01 PM
Cult,  Are you sure?  I think he has played a couple of games, or else left back for the day has tried to imitiate the great man
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Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on January 05, 2008, 06:12:17 PM
Cult,  Are you sure?  I think he has played a couple of games, or else left back for the day has tried to imitiate the great man

No, George Heslop was still quicker than Andy Scott.....and that moustache would certainly intimidate opposing wingers....
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Post by: thegazelle on January 05, 2008, 06:26:00 PM
I was lucky from 79 i worked at the Bowdon Hotel and was privvy to all comings and goings as the then sec Dave Baldwin's office was next to ours, in fact i inherited his office when it all changed. it was fantastic to be in the hub of things and i met alot of players before they had made the deal to join. add to that pre match breakfasts and listening in to team talks i was a lucky young man
oh happy days
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Post by: ManagementGuru on January 05, 2008, 06:33:08 PM
Best ever transfer swap deal: Mickey Moore to Wigan in exchange for John Rogers!
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Post by: hsmith1 on January 05, 2008, 06:39:39 PM
Not uncle Noel's transport cafe as we called it?
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Post by: thegazelle on January 05, 2008, 06:45:46 PM
much more high class than a transport cafe (although i could tell you a few stories)
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Post by: hsmith1 on January 05, 2008, 08:08:47 PM
Uncle Noel is the uncle of one of my mates as was Nigel Tomlinson and we used to have supper sometimes in uncle Noels kitchen at his home.we refered to the Bowden as the transport cafe.Nigel was our team goalie Altrincham Albion we were the first team from Alty to play in the Wythenshawe Sunday league