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Title: joseph is a liability
Post by: dino on January 18, 2011, 11:19:11 PM
absolutely shocking headbut which cost us 2 points. there is no hiding place , it was unprovoked and malicious. Credit to Perry for not making a meal of it

Superb effort by the rest of the team. Reeves and Densmore were right on it tonight, with the fast improving Hewson , who got the ball down and tried to play.

72 from altrincham
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: bighairedmike on January 18, 2011, 11:22:29 PM
Having not been there I can't comment on what did or didnt happen. So this is a genuine question, what actually happened?

I've heard a slap, an elbow a punch and now a headbutt. And the thing about their guy not making a meal of it, heard contrasting views of that too.
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: distancetraveller on January 18, 2011, 11:24:40 PM
Didnt see you posting on here the last few weeks Dino when people were praising Joseph... Yes what he did was silly but if you fart next to Perry he is likely to go down....

Always a fkn negative comment when the TEAM ran there hearts out... OK saturday wasnt good but they came back in spades tonight

Well done Alty ... ALL of you.
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: Hulme Robin on January 18, 2011, 11:25:23 PM
I saw a two handed retaliatory shove from MJ , didn't see a headbut.
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: York Alty on January 18, 2011, 11:29:24 PM
The situation is he got sent off for violent conduct.  He now faces a three match ban.

Whether he slapped, elbowed, punched or headbutted he still let himself, his team mates, fans and the club down. By now he'll know it.

It's done. We deal with the consequences.

The club is in the midst of a relegation battle and the players NEED OUR SUPPORT.
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: bumble on January 19, 2011, 12:14:50 AM
Id rather it had been a headbutt

IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO OFF...ATLEAST CAUSE SOME DAMAGE!
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: Mick on January 19, 2011, 12:18:22 AM
Dino
Headbutt ! .........nobody else has mentioned a headbutt.....Are you sure you saw this because nobody else has spoke of a headbutt ?

Please confirm 
 
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: markecky on January 19, 2011, 12:22:53 AM
Nobody around me saw a headbutt either.

The guy elbowed him, they squared up and Joseph shoved him.

I don't think he'll need telling he shouldnt have done it..
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: York Alty on January 19, 2011, 12:26:06 AM
and for me that ends the debate.

Good night Vienna.
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: Mick on January 19, 2011, 12:44:27 AM
Maybe it does end the debate.......but I think Dino should still explain his 'headbutt' comments....it's fair to say that things look different from different angles and if so that is fine.
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: dino on January 19, 2011, 07:05:41 AM
i was in line with the incident ,albeit on the opposite side of pitch.There was head simulation from joseph,although there cant of been contact. It didnt appear to be a  chris senior moment vs mansfield. the closest to the incident were the linesman and ken mc, who were only feet away. whatever, it was totally unwarranted ,and was so soon after perry came on, it looked like an old score being settled

the rest of the team fought like lions after, and Hewson has got bags of ability

unless we can get the ball down and into his feet, Baynes will be a luxury for the rest of the season
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: taxi Phil on January 19, 2011, 07:45:25 AM
Hewson has got bags of ability.

That's never been in doubt - the problem appears to be a lack of application, off the pitch as well as on it.
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: jim fallon on January 19, 2011, 07:46:22 AM
who gives a sh*t move on! He's experienced enough to know better but also only human (sort of)
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: Dougals Dad on January 19, 2011, 08:11:15 AM
i was in line with the incident ,albeit on the opposite side of pitch the county.There was head simulation from joseph,although there cant of been contact. It didnt appear to be a  chris senior moment vs mansfield. the closest to the incident were the linesman and ken mc, who were only feet away. whatever, it was totally unwarranted ,and was so soon after perry came on, it looked like an old score being settled

the rest of the team fought like lions after, and Hewson has got bags of ability

unless we can get the ball down and into his feet, Baynes will be a luxury for the rest of the season
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: Jenga on January 19, 2011, 08:50:05 AM
We are in a battle to survive and players need to be battle.

As a natural consequence of players "being up for it", tempers will rise from time to time. Meaning that battle usually means bookings and the occasional sending off.

Well do Joseph for having some heart. I dont condone sendings off or bookings, but it comes with the territory that we are in at present.

Move on and keep playing your heart out Joseph.

It is just a pity that alot of football fans across the country only actually watch football and dont understand what is behind it, be it, formations, players, substitutions and heart for a fight.

Rant over.
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: Mick on January 19, 2011, 12:29:33 PM
i was in line with the incident ,albeit on the opposite side of pitch.There was head simulation from joseph,although there cant of been contact. It didnt appear to be a  chris senior moment vs mansfield. the closest to the incident were the linesman and ken mc, who were only feet away. whatever, it was totally unwarranted ,and was so soon after perry came on, it looked like an old score being settled

the rest of the team fought like lions after, and Hewson has got bags of ability

unless we can get the ball down and into his feet, Baynes will be a luxury for the rest of the season

Thanks for replying
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: andrewflynn on January 19, 2011, 12:55:02 PM
Id rather it had been a headbutt

IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO OFF...ATLEAST CAUSE SOME DAMAGE!

And get charged for assault..
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: bumble on January 19, 2011, 01:14:43 PM
Id rather it had been a headbutt

IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO OFF...ATLEAST CAUSE SOME DAMAGE!

And get charged for assault..

If you're not going to get a 3 game ban you might as well make it worthwhile
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: Toff Apple on January 19, 2011, 01:16:32 PM
Perry caught Joseph on the back of the head so he pushed him, hard, I thought it should have been a yellow, Baynes played well, crossed for the goal and his freekick was excellent in the second half
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: gazwarrington on January 19, 2011, 02:41:55 PM
What is annoying is that we now lose an improved player for 3 matches (when the squad is thin anyway)...I don;t mind sendings off for last ditch tackles that turn to fouls, a 50/50 that you are unlucky with or if you at least injure the other player in a tackle\foul but for something when the whistle has already gone, with no danger then its a disgrace.

I think it was summed up by someone at the match, if it was a young kid then fair enough but from a senior player who knows how important points \ full teams are then there is no excuse. Yes I probably went over the top with having a go at him but my frustration was that from us looking like beating Tamworth we were put on the back foot for no good reason and could have lost to a VERY poor team.

Its forgotten about by me now, I had my say at the match and now on here... The good thing out of it was watching the remaining 10 players battle and block everything for the second half.

 
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: CB on January 19, 2011, 02:42:39 PM
Id rather it had been a headbutt

IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO OFF...ATLEAST CAUSE SOME DAMAGE!

And get charged for assault..

Heard of irony?

If you're not going to get a 3 game ban you might as well make it worthwhile

Do you ever stop talking nonsense?
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: bumble on January 19, 2011, 04:23:06 PM
"or if you at least injure the other player in a tackle\foul but for something when the whistle has already gone, with no danger then its a disgrace."

Thank you!!
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: Butty on January 20, 2011, 05:09:59 PM
Let me guess dino, the only viable answer for this situation is to sack GH.
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: Dougals Dad on January 20, 2011, 05:14:23 PM
Let me guess dino, the only viable answer for this situation is to sack GH.

 :D
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: Ben6 on January 21, 2011, 06:58:11 PM
WE SHOULD GET RID OF JOSEPH HE IS RUBBISH. HE IS LESS USE THAN A STICK IN A TOILET
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: PukkaPieman on January 21, 2011, 07:22:06 PM
WE SHOULD GET RID OF JOSEPH HE IS RUBBISH. HE IS LESS USE THAN A STICK IN A TOILET

Dont shout such nonsense.
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: Hulme Robin on January 21, 2011, 07:32:05 PM
some nonsense on here
Joseph has started to make a real difference to the team
mansfield and rushden away he was solid and played a massive part in the two wins
the sending off on tuesday was bs - nowt but handbags
and we will miss him at the back in the games he his banned

just my 2p worth
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: mikeford2005 on January 21, 2011, 08:23:15 PM
WE SHOULD GET RID OF JOSEPH HE IS RUBBISH. HE IS LESS USE THAN A STICK IN A TOILET

Dont shout such nonsense.

Glad to see you're back Ian!
Did you manage to find any Pukka Pies in Egypt?
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: Steve from Sale on January 22, 2011, 08:56:10 AM
Despite the sending off, I do think that Marc Joseph has turned his game around and been a much improved player for us. The fact that he took so long to adapt to his role and has also had to win over our supporters, the sending off appears to have set him back again with some of our fans. We all have hot-headed moments in football and other courses of life which we all regret and I am sure Marc does with this sending off.

But lately he has been a much improved player and as Kenny says, we have all had moments of madness. Do not berate him now but as a player he deserves our support. What is done is done; but if he ever looks on this website I can tell you he would have given up long ago. but he is still here and now playing well.

I know some of you will disagree with me which is fair enough, but I do not like Ben6's post which shows complete disrespect for one of our players.

Marc has done well to turn things round and has become a good player for us, despite the abberation last week. Get back into the game after your ban Marc, and give it your all, there are several of us who can see where you are coming from and how you have improved. Kenny has said so himself that he is becoming a highly rated player from recent posts. Lets give him his chance when he comes back in and give him support as we do with the other players.

Steve from Sale
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: taxi Phil on January 22, 2011, 11:26:07 AM
Good post Steve - have a Goodwin.
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: PukkaPieman on January 22, 2011, 11:36:02 AM
WE SHOULD GET RID OF JOSEPH HE IS RUBBISH. HE IS LESS USE THAN A STICK IN A TOILET

Dont shout such nonsense.

Glad to see you're back Ian!
Did you manage to find any Pukka Pies in Egypt?

No, I cant believe they dont have PUKKA PIES in Egypt! Just camel butties ;D Glad to be back having missed a few games.
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: taxi Phil on January 22, 2011, 11:48:49 AM
Pukka pies only give me indigestion. Camel butties would really give me the hump  ;D
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: Dougals Dad on January 22, 2011, 11:52:08 AM
Pukka pies only give me indigestion. Camel butties would really give me the hump  ;D

Even I resisted the temptation to do that one!  ;)
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: PukkaPieman on January 22, 2011, 02:27:37 PM
Pukka pies only give me indigestion. Camel butties would really give me the hump  ;D

Even I resisted the temptation to do that one!  ;)

Dont resist anything, just let rip, especially after a camel butty!
Title: Re: joseph is a liability
Post by: Dougals Dad on January 23, 2011, 01:13:40 AM
Pukka pies only give me indigestion. Camel butties would really give me the hump  ;D

Even I resisted the temptation to do that one!  ;)

Dont resist anything, just let rip, especially after a camel butty!

 :D