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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: MarpleAlty on November 22, 2020, 02:36:06 PM
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I thought he deserved his own thread really as he's solved a huge headache we had in the middle of the park.
From reading the Mansfield forum, it doesn't sound like many expect him back any time soon - possibly ever - so let's hope there's a good chance to get him permanently if he continues to do well.
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Agreed
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Yep, played well yesterday...
Would be good if we could hang onto him...
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The only thing going against us is the full time to part time status change. There would be a marked reluctance from any full time player to do this, but you never know. I agree though that he has showed up pretty well so far.
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The only thing going against us is the full time to part time status change. There would be a marked reluctance from any full time player to do this, but you never know. I agree though that he has showed up pretty well so far.
We managed to get Ceesay from blackpool so fingers crossed
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PP mentioned he'd been in contact with Mansfield on his performance so it looks like they're keeping tabs on his progress. He's in the mould of a Nigel Clough player, perhaps a long loan might be a possibility?
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I can see him as maybe a Lundstram type figure who really makes a difference to the team.
Not necessarily the style of play, but by his impact.
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With Clough being new to Mansfield I'd be amazed if he'd already decided his services weren't needed - he'll be having a good look at him for sure.
One of those where we could do with Mansfield results picking up over the next few weeks so they don't recall him as he's no worse than what they've got.
Also, another football league club seeing us as a good development ground can't be a bad thing either - we can't always just rely on Crewe.
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It is making me smile that some on here not so long ago were less than gushing on Parkie's latest loan signings.
Now we're enthusiastic about this lad (justifiably imo), Dales is looking good too.
And McDonald's just opened his account.
Perhaps PP knows a bit more than some on here eh?
PS. Robbins and Sass-Davies are okay too aren't they?
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It is making me smile that some on here not so long ago were less than gushing on Parkie's latest loan signings.
Now we're enthusiastic about this lad (justifiably imo), Dales is looking good too.
And McDonald's just opened his account.
Perhaps PP knows a bit more than some on here eh?
PS. Robbins and Sass-Davies are okay too aren't they?
Agreed. It isn't an instant fix even for capable loanee to find their feet and blend in. I've been watching football for 62 years and figured this out some time ago.
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Phil and Neil have a very solid record with loanees.
Have made or are making an impact:
Connor Hampson - gone on to become a first team regular
Chris Merrie - valuable contributions alongside Moult during the NPL run-in
Yusifu Ceesay - big part in the 18/19 run-in
Owen Dale - quality during his time here
Ashley Hemmings - solid
Joe Piggott - solid enough
Billy Sass-Davies - looking like he'll be solid
Josh Lundstram - class
Andy Dales - potential is there
Joe Robbins - tidy enough
Alistair Smith - looks a player
Didn't make an impact for whatever reason:
Brendon Daniels
Josh Langley - didn't play a first team game?
Chris Sang
Nathan Waterston - got injured a few minutes after coming on?
Ethan Walker
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Phil and Neil have a very solid record with loanees.
Have made or are making an impact:
Connor Hampson - gone on to become a first team regular
Chris Merrie - valuable contributions alongside Moult during the NPL run-in
Yusifu Ceesay - big part in the 18/19 run-in
Owen Dale - quality during his time here
Ashley Hemmings - solid
Joe Piggott - solid enough
Billy Sass-Davies - looking like he'll be solid
Josh Lundstram - class
Andy Dales - potential is there
Joe Robbins - tidy enough
Alistair Smith - looks a player
Didn't make an impact for whatever reason:
Brendon Daniels
Josh Langley - didn't play a first team game?
Chris Sang
Nathan Waterston - got injured a few minutes after coming on?
Ethan Walker
Decent, I have always thought PP and Neil are decent with loans.
I believe in them both and they play the football the way I enjoy to watch.
I did question the Potter and Fis signings, which I still stand by.
The performance on Sat was absolutely outstanding. To keep that tempo for 90 mins was a joy to watch.
We shouldn't fear anyone. With players coming back and hopefully McDonald gets a run we should cause any team problems.
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Let's face it, Potter's contribution was up there with the likes of Jamie Phoenix, Danny Higginbotham and Fabio Bassangue.
Glad we can already laugh about it (I think)...
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Phil and Neil have a very solid record with loanees.
Have made or are making an impact:
Connor Hampson - gone on to become a first team regular
Chris Merrie - valuable contributions alongside Moult during the NPL run-in
Yusifu Ceesay - big part in the 18/19 run-in
Owen Dale - quality during his time here
Ashley Hemmings - solid
Joe Piggott - solid enough
Billy Sass-Davies - looking like he'll be solid
Josh Lundstram - class
Andy Dales - potential is there
Joe Robbins - tidy enough
Alistair Smith - looks a player
Didn't make an impact for whatever reason:
Brendon Daniels
Josh Langley - didn't play a first team game?
Chris Sang
Nathan Waterston - got injured a few minutes after coming on?
Ethan Walker
Do you want to do one of the permanent signings we've made?
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Phil and Neil have a very solid record with loanees.
Have made or are making an impact:
Connor Hampson - gone on to become a first team regular
Chris Merrie - valuable contributions alongside Moult during the NPL run-in
Yusifu Ceesay - big part in the 18/19 run-in
Owen Dale - quality during his time here
Ashley Hemmings - solid
Joe Piggott - solid enough
Billy Sass-Davies - looking like he'll be solid
Josh Lundstram - class
Andy Dales - potential is there
Joe Robbins - tidy enough
Alistair Smith - looks a player
Didn't make an impact for whatever reason:
Brendon Daniels
Josh Langley - didn't play a first team game?
Chris Sang
Nathan Waterston - got injured a few minutes after coming on?
Ethan Walker
Do you want to do one of the permanent signings we've made?
I think it's people like you who Parky was alluding to in his post match interview
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Phil and Neil have a very solid record with loanees.
Have made or are making an impact:
Connor Hampson - gone on to become a first team regular
Chris Merrie - valuable contributions alongside Moult during the NPL run-in
Yusifu Ceesay - big part in the 18/19 run-in
Owen Dale - quality during his time here
Ashley Hemmings - solid
Joe Piggott - solid enough
Billy Sass-Davies - looking like he'll be solid
Josh Lundstram - class
Andy Dales - potential is there
Joe Robbins - tidy enough
Alistair Smith - looks a player
Didn't make an impact for whatever reason:
Brendon Daniels
Josh Langley - didn't play a first team game?
Chris Sang
Nathan Waterston - got injured a few minutes after coming on?
Ethan Walker
Do you want to do one of the permanent signings we've made?
I think it's people like you who Parky was alluding to in his post match interview
Parkinson needs to get a thicker skin. Dare he go to a bigger club, he'll meet far worse than "Tom Peers isn't a conference player" (you'll notice he didn't start in any of our three wins). Or "Go and spend some money on permanent players".
You can be positive and criticise;. As they say, good is the enemy of great.
His loan signings have changed the season numerous times; but his player recruitment has been very hit and miss
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Those who can, do. Those who can't, preach.
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Those who can, do. Those who can't, preach.
Bore off. I was positive about McDonald. But doesn't fit your agenda 😘
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Sorry for hitting a nerve. My only agenda is to support Alty and I've got no intention of falling out with anyone - even you. 😘
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Phil and Neil have a very solid record with loanees.
Have made or are making an impact:
Connor Hampson - gone on to become a first team regular
Chris Merrie - valuable contributions alongside Moult during the NPL run-in
Yusifu Ceesay - big part in the 18/19 run-in
Owen Dale - quality during his time here
Ashley Hemmings - solid
Joe Piggott - solid enough
Billy Sass-Davies - looking like he'll be solid
Josh Lundstram - class
Andy Dales - potential is there
Joe Robbins - tidy enough
Alistair Smith - looks a player
Didn't make an impact for whatever reason:
Brendon Daniels
Josh Langley - didn't play a first team game?
Chris Sang
Nathan Waterston - got injured a few minutes after coming on?
Ethan Walker
Do you want to do one of the permanent signings we've made?
Wouldn't make much sense as this thread was discussing loanees until you swooped in with an agenda, sheeeeeeoooooock.
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I'll humour you though. Define 'permanent' signings for me. To me that's players who've been offered a 'proper' deal to play here? In which case while we've signed a few duds in Branson, Arnold I'd probably say on the whole Phil and Neil have recruited well in that department too?
Tony Thompson
Andy White
Connor Hampson
Ben Harrison
James Jones
Josh Hancock
Jordan Hulme
Max Harrop
James Poole
Tom Peers
Yusifu Ceesay
Toby Mullarkey
John Johnston
Sean Williams
Elliot Durrell
Dan Mooney
Craig Mahon
Ritchie Sutton
Joel Senior
Matty Kosylo
Matt Gould (tbc)
Lewis Salmon (tbc)
If you want to include non-contract additions to the squad then I completely agree we've gone through an almighty list of players since 2017/18, many of whom never even kicked a ball. It's a slight concern but I don't see that approach happening as often in this league, as it did in the earlier years where it was more in the nature of the divisions.
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I'll humour you though. Define 'permanent' signings for me. To me that's players who've been offered a 'proper' deal to play here? In which case while we've signed a few duds in Branson, Arnold I'd probably say on the whole Phil and Neil have recruited well in that department too?
Tony Thompson
Andy White
Connor Hampson
Ben Harrison
James Jones
Josh Hancock
Jordan Hulme
Max Harrop
James Poole
Tom Peers
Yusifu Ceesay
Toby Mullarkey
John Johnston
Sean Williams
Elliot Durrell
Dan Mooney
Craig Mahon
Ritchie Sutton
Joel Senior
Matty Kosylo
Matt Gould (tbc)
Lewis Salmon (tbc)
If you want to include non-contract additions to the squad then I completely agree we've gone through an almighty list of players since 2017/18, many of whom never even kicked a ball. It's a slight concern but I don't see that approach happening as often in this league, as it did in the earlier years where it was more in the nature of the divisions.
Yeah, but apart from them 😂 😂 😂
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Phil and Neil have a very solid record with loanees.
Have made or are making an impact:
Connor Hampson - gone on to become a first team regular
Chris Merrie - valuable contributions alongside Moult during the NPL run-in
Yusifu Ceesay - big part in the 18/19 run-in
Owen Dale - quality during his time here
Ashley Hemmings - solid
Joe Piggott - solid enough
Billy Sass-Davies - looking like he'll be solid
Josh Lundstram - class
Andy Dales - potential is there
Joe Robbins - tidy enough
Alistair Smith - looks a player
Didn't make an impact for whatever reason:
Brendon Daniels
Josh Langley - didn't play a first team game?
Chris Sang
Nathan Waterston - got injured a few minutes after coming on?
Ethan Walker
Do you want to do one of the permanent signings we've made?
I think it's people like you who Parky was alluding to in his post match interview
Parkinson needs to get a thicker skin. Dare he go to a bigger club, he'll meet far worse than "Tom Peers isn't a conference player" (you'll notice he didn't start in any of our three wins). Or "Go and spend some money on permanent players".
You can be positive and criticise;. As they say, good is the enemy of great.
His loan signings have changed the season numerous times; but his player recruitment has been very hit and miss
He seems to have an incredible knack for realising when a player doesn't hit the mark and adapt quickly by changing it. I don't think you can question him beyond that. 2 promotions in 3 seasons would suggest his recruitment within the confines of the budget he's been allocated has been absolutely spot on.
I also don't think he was complaining about individual comments I think he's disappointed when we go 2 games without a win in the national league etc and some people start calling for changes or to get rid of players. I think he see's the whole club, fans included, as a collective and is probably disappointed to see some people being negative at the first sign of something not being 100% right.
Personally, I believe he doesn't deserve any criticism, (constructive or not) given his record. However, i do think we start every season slowly and I suspect that's because Parkinson has a system (or systems) that takes time to implement properly and perhaps relies on players being fully match sharp before it's 100% effective. Early signs suggest it's coming together again which is a testament to him and Sorvs being able to play effectively the way we do as a part time side in this division.
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Parky's first recruitment window was obscenely good.
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Phil and Neil have a very solid record with loanees.
Have made or are making an impact:
Connor Hampson - gone on to become a first team regular
Chris Merrie - valuable contributions alongside Moult during the NPL run-in
Yusifu Ceesay - big part in the 18/19 run-in
Owen Dale - quality during his time here
Ashley Hemmings - solid
Joe Piggott - solid enough
Billy Sass-Davies - looking like he'll be solid
Josh Lundstram - class
Andy Dales - potential is there
Joe Robbins - tidy enough
Alistair Smith - looks a player
Didn't make an impact for whatever reason:
Brendon Daniels
Josh Langley - didn't play a first team game?
Chris Sang
Nathan Waterston - got injured a few minutes after coming on?
Ethan Walker
Was Josh Ginnelly a Parky signing too pal?
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Phil and Neil have a very solid record with loanees.
Have made or are making an impact:
Connor Hampson - gone on to become a first team regular
Chris Merrie - valuable contributions alongside Moult during the NPL run-in
Yusifu Ceesay - big part in the 18/19 run-in
Owen Dale - quality during his time here
Ashley Hemmings - solid
Joe Piggott - solid enough
Billy Sass-Davies - looking like he'll be solid
Josh Lundstram - class
Andy Dales - potential is there
Joe Robbins - tidy enough
Alistair Smith - looks a player
Didn't make an impact for whatever reason:
Brendon Daniels
Josh Langley - didn't play a first team game?
Chris Sang
Nathan Waterston - got injured a few minutes after coming on?
Ethan Walker
Was Josh Ginnelly a Parky signing too pal?
Ginnelly was way back in the Sinnott/Tolson era.
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My bad....yes of course he was! He’s doing well at Hearts this season
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Those who can, do. Those who can't, preach.
I was thinking more along the lines of: "And this thread was going so well!"
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More importantly, let's spend the cash and tempt Smith here till May.
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My bad....yes of course he was! He’s doing well at Hearts this season
Or would be if he wasn't out injured.
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Phil and Neil have a very solid record with loanees.
Have made or are making an impact:
Connor Hampson - gone on to become a first team regular
Chris Merrie - valuable contributions alongside Moult during the NPL run-in
Yusifu Ceesay - big part in the 18/19 run-in
Owen Dale - quality during his time here
Ashley Hemmings - solid
Joe Piggott - solid enough
Billy Sass-Davies - looking like he'll be solid
Josh Lundstram - class
Andy Dales - potential is there
Joe Robbins - tidy enough
Alistair Smith - looks a player
Didn't make an impact for whatever reason:
Brendon Daniels
Josh Langley - didn't play a first team game?
Chris Sang
Nathan Waterston - got injured a few minutes after coming on?
Ethan Walker
Do you want to do one of the permanent signings we've made?
I think it's people like you who Parky was alluding to in his post match interview
What on earth was that all about anyway? I don’t tend to follow social media too closely, but the worst I’ve seen is a few people saying some of the players we had weren’t good enough to win games in the Conference. Which they weren’t. So Parkinson signed some better ones (like Smith - looks a good player), and we’ve started winning games. Which suggests he probably agreed with it all along anyway.
Unless I’ve missed something?
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There's always Deli Ali :) :) SBL
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Phil and Neil have a very solid record with loanees.
Have made or are making an impact:
Connor Hampson - gone on to become a first team regular
Chris Merrie - valuable contributions alongside Moult during the NPL run-in
Yusifu Ceesay - big part in the 18/19 run-in
Owen Dale - quality during his time here
Ashley Hemmings - solid
Joe Piggott - solid enough
Billy Sass-Davies - looking like he'll be solid
Josh Lundstram - class
Andy Dales - potential is there
Joe Robbins - tidy enough
Alistair Smith - looks a player
Didn't make an impact for whatever reason:
Brendon Daniels
Josh Langley - didn't play a first team game?
Chris Sang
Nathan Waterston - got injured a few minutes after coming on?
Ethan Walker
Do you want to do one of the permanent signings we've made?
I think it's people like you who Parky was alluding to in his post match interview
What on earth was that all about anyway? I don’t tend to follow social media too closely, but the worst I’ve seen is a few people saying some of the players we had weren’t good enough to win games in the Conference. Which they weren’t. So Parkinson signed some better ones (like Smith - looks a good player), and we’ve started winning games. Which suggests he probably agreed with it all along anyway.
Unless I’ve missed something?
He's done it every year. He's got a chip on his shoulder about criticism. He won't like it at Wrexham or Halifax...
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If we’ve lost then something has gone wrong or wasn’t good enough to win. Fans like to share their opinions on what that was. It’s not automatically a criticism or something we think Parky or the club should have fixed but that seems to be how he often takes it.
For example our pitch is not very good and sometimes people say so on here. That is a statement of fact, it’s not a criticism of the groundsman or his team or of the board for not installing some sort of under soil pumping system We all know it’s called moss lane for a reason and those involved do a good job all things considered. Similarly Billy SD isn’t as good at playing out from the back as Toby. Doesn’t mean I want him sent back to Crewe! Finally saying Parky struggles with accepting things said on the forum doesn’t mean he isn’t the best manager we’ve had for ages and is doing a great job!
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You can be positive and criticise;. As they say, good is the enemy of great.
Is saying how you are embarrassed to be an Alty fan positive criticism?
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You can be positive and criticise;. As they say, good is the enemy of great.
Is saying how you are embarrassed to be an Alty fan positive criticism?
:D :D :D
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You can be positive and criticise;. As they say, good is the enemy of great.
Is saying how you are embarrassed to be an Alty fan positive criticism?
Parkinson criticised players in a public interview. I'm entitled to be embarrassed by a lack of effort.its the minimum fans should expect.