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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: robininstockport on December 19, 2015, 05:12:08 PM
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Not happy about this
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Didn't expect anything today. . However 4 points from the drop zone is uncomfortable next few weeks will define the season
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It sounds like we gave a very good account of ourselves today and we also have a game in hand over borehamwood in 21st. Cheltenham are top of the league for a reason and it won't be these sorts of games that define our season.
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It sounds like we gave a very good account of ourselves today and we also have a game in hand over borehamwood in 21st. Cheltenham are top of the league for a reason and it won't be these sorts of games that define our season.
"A good account" and "game in hand" are the flimsiest of straws IMO. "Good accounts" and playing "nice stuff" are useless when accompanied by spurned chances and defensive errors. Come on Grahame and Lee - you need to spend a few quid and find something new. This is getting very tired now.
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It sounds like we gave a very good account of ourselves today and we also have a game in hand over borehamwood in 21st. Cheltenham are top of the league for a reason and it won't be these sorts of games that define our season.
"A good account" and "game in hand" are the flimsiest of straws IMO. "Good accounts" and playing "nice stuff" are useless when accompanied by spurned chances and defensive errors. Come on Grahame and Lee - you need to spend a few quid and find something new. This is getting very tired now.
Not when it's away against top of the league, no. You can't have a go at the team for losing that match.
In our last 4 we've lost 2 to FGR and Cheltenham and won 2 against boreham wood and Bromley. I don't see any sort of crisis at the moment personally.
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Apart from Southport all the other results went for us today so no worse off really than before we started.
We need a couple of wins though soon to keep the bottom 4 at bay.
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Our last two fixtures have been away to fgr and Cheltenham. Was always going to be tough. We're ahead of where we need to be.
Southport have won 4 out of 5 but 3 of the wins were against Bromley, Gateshead and Welling who are all gash.
Calm down.
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Apart from 1 bad tackle from a man who played excellent like the rest of the team that's the best Iv seen us this season deserved more we will be ok
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Apart from 1 bad tackle from a man who played excellent like the rest of the team that's the best Iv seen us this season deserved more we will be ok
The voice of reason hopefully.
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Mixed bag today I thought, They were a big team but not a patch on FGR, don't know how they are top of the league.
Sinnot, Leather, Moult, Richman all excellent today, Deasey did what he had to and Reeves ran his socks off.
Nicky didn't look fit, especially after falling badly when fouled.
Rankine was rubbish today though - have been impressed where I've seen him before but Reeves was running past him to chase long balls down
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It sounds like we gave a very good account of ourselves today and we also have a game in hand over borehamwood in 21st. Cheltenham are top of the league for a reason and it won't be these sorts of games that define our season.
"A good account" and "game in hand" are the flimsiest of straws IMO. "Good accounts" and playing "nice stuff" are useless when accompanied by spurned chances and defensive errors. Come on Grahame and Lee - you need to spend a few quid and find something new. This is getting very tired now.
We cannot control what Southport did today, nor any other team not facing us.
Cheltenham and FGR are both very good sides and some reasoned, honest and fair minded posters on here have said how well we played today. I will back their judgement. I also back the board and the manager to try and strengthen the squad.
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We have achieved exactly the same results against Cheltenham as we did against Bristol Rovers last season. Let's try to keep things in perspective. The games against Chester over the holiday period will give us a better idea of where we stand compared to last season - the trip to Tranmere is something of an unknown quantity. Southport under a new manager were always likely to improve short-term.
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As I said after the Leamington debacle (and it was a debacle, let's not gloss over that), it's not so much the result as the manner of defeat. The sheer inability to score is very worrying - George Heslop said as much on RR today. A dismal record of 22 goals in 24 league games this season, (36 in the last 38 league games), and a failure to convert any number of chances every game, regardless of the opposition.
We have a squad of 12 fully-fit senior outfield players (13 if you count Sam Heathcote), with 1 crocked (Marshall), another 2 (Densmore & Clee) who have each missed over half of the last 30 games, and a number of young lads who are never going to grace the turf in the first team. I can't believe people aren't more concerned.
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We have 2 points fewer than at this stage last season. I am very concerned.
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2points fewer yes , and a lot more injuries , every season we get the doom and gloom merchants , half a season gone nearly , another half to go , im confident we can survive , the biggest problem in my opinion is we aren't tacking the chances we are creating .
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We need to bring in some players on loan. It really is that simple.
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We need to bring in some players on loan. It really is that simple.
I have to agree. Is it coincidence that Southport have had 5 loanees to our 1...
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We are doing better against the teams around us which will help.
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As I said after the Leamington debacle (and it was a debacle, let's not gloss over that), it's not so much the result as the manner of defeat. The sheer inability to score is very worrying - George Heslop said as much on RR today. A dismal record of 22 goals in 24 league games this season, (36 in the last 38 league games), and a failure to convert any number of chances every game, regardless of the opposition.
We have a squad of 12 fully-fit senior outfield players (13 if you count Sam Heathcote), with 1 crocked (Marshall), another 2 (Densmore & Clee) who have each missed over half of the last 30 games, and a number of young lads who are never going to grace the turf in the first team. I can't believe people aren't more concerned.
If Havern and Rankine are fully fit I'm the Queen of Sheba.
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We have a seriously concerning inability to chase games, if we go behind we're almost certain to lose. Why? I'd say because we have absolutely no viable options from the bench.
In games where the opposition have scored the first goal, we've gained just three points this season: Lincoln 1-1 Altrincham, Gateshead 2-2 Altrincham, Altrincham 1-1 Torquay. The rest we have gone on to lose.
We have some right gems, and we have a lot of decent players for this level, but those same lads can't carry the whole responsibility for the full ninety each and every week. Just look at the benches we are naming. I can't see how we could change a game in our favour. Twenty minutes to go, relying on the knackered legs that have already done the other seventy.
We've got absolutely nothing worth bringing on off the bench and we aren't going to be able to battle consistently at this level if we don't add to the squad, starting with some wingers.
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To be fair, it's hard to know whether anyone on the bench has the potential to be a game changer, as they never get a chance to showcase their talents.
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As I said after the Leamington debacle (and it was a debacle, let's not gloss over that), it's not so much the result as the manner of defeat. The sheer inability to score is very worrying - George Heslop said as much on RR today. A dismal record of 22 goals in 24 league games this season, (36 in the last 38 league games), and a failure to convert any number of chances every game, regardless of the opposition.
We have a squad of 12 fully-fit senior outfield players (13 if you count Sam Heathcote), with 1 crocked (Marshall), another 2 (Densmore & Clee) who have each missed over half of the last 30 games, and a number of young lads who are never going to grace the turf in the first team. I can't believe people aren't more concerned.
If Havern and Rankine are fully fit I'm the Queen of Sheba.
they looked fully fit they played to normal decent standard and rankine is slow and he was no slower yesterday
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We have 2 points fewer than at this stage last season. I am very concerned.
lads season we were safe by end of Feb so that stat shouldn't be that worrying
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To be fair, it's hard to know whether anyone on the bench has the potential to be a game changer, as they never get a chance to showcase their talents.
The manager sees these players training with the first team. If he thinks they could make a difference he would bring them on. They're on the bench to so we can name a full sixteen! Its a shame all of our games are so close, I'd love to see Rhain Davis be given a couple of cameos should we get the opportunity but that would require us to be three goals up. He has the potential to become a decent part of the squad, much like Sam has.
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This place is funny at times. A 1-0 defeat away at the league leaders has kicked off a 2 page whinge fest. Have some perspective.
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This place is funny at times. A 1-0 defeat away at the league leaders has kicked off a 2 page whinge fest. Have some perspective.
I don't think it was the loss away at the league leaders...............I think it is the fact that some of the duff teams below us in the table are starting to accumulate points at a greater rate than we are, having brought players in
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It got sod all to do with whingers. Quite the opposite. It shows peoples concerns that the gap at the bottom is closing. Maybe were worried that things aren't so rosey as the bespectacled posters believe we have on here.
Just because we post comments that some people don't like to read does NOT mean were doing the club down or stirring the Sh1t. In my case its quite the opposite. What I dont want is to watch is Conf North football with about 25 away fans on a good day.
Here endeth....
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I don't think it's all Rosey however I don't think we will go down
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I don't think it's all Rosey however I don't think we will go down
I hear what your saying Jimmy and I think your level headed with your posts.
I don't think were doomed but we have to be very very careful and we need to beat teams around us for sure.
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This place is funny at times. A 1-0 defeat away at the league leaders has kicked off a 2 page whinge fest. Have some perspective.
I'd have the same opinion about our benches if we'd have won 3-0 yesterday. It will continue to get us into trouble this season, just as it did against Halifax at home; we had no hope of changing things up because we only had George flipping Bowerman as an alternative attacking option. 1-2 down with 30 minutes ago and we barely had a shot on target did we not?
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Bowerman comes on after 80 mins clee 60 you can set your watch to this
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It got sod all to do with whingers. Quite the opposite. It shows peoples concerns that the gap at the bottom is closing. Maybe were worried that things aren't so rosey as the bespectacled posters believe we have on here.
Just because we post comments that some people don't like to read does NOT mean were doing the club down or stirring the Sh1t. In my case its quite the opposite. What I dont want is to watch is Conf North football with about 25 away fans on a good day.
Here endeth....
You make some valid points there. I am quite positive and optimistic about things. I don't follow alty to be full of worry and pessimism, supporting a football team should be, in my view, about getting the enjoyment you can from it. That doesn't mean I wear rose tinted specs though. Clearly we need to pick up points and the lack of cover is a worry.
That said, I get the impression from some fans that they think we have a complacent board and management team sitting on a pile of cash thinking everything is wonderful and not trying to make things better.
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It got sod all to do with whingers. Quite the opposite. It shows peoples concerns that the gap at the bottom is closing. Maybe were worried that things aren't so rosey as the bespectacled posters believe we have on here.
Just because we post comments that some people don't like to read does NOT mean were doing the club down or stirring the Sh1t. In my case its quite the opposite. What I dont want is to watch is Conf North football with about 25 away fans on a good day.
Here endeth....
You make some valid points there. I am quite positive and optimistic about things. I don't follow alty to be full of worry and pessimism, supporting a football team should be, in my view, about getting the enjoyment you can from it. That doesn't mean I wear rose tinted specs though. Clearly we need to pick up points and the lack of cover is a worry.
That said, I get the impression from some fans that they think we have a complacent board and management team sitting on a pile of cash thinking everything is wonderful and not trying to make things better.
Hi Bob. I do appreciate that money is tight... but we have generated some cash from our cup run etc.
It boils down to how bad do the club want to stay in this league....
I like to think that the answer to that question is " Very much so "
I look forward to seeing some movement during the up and coming transfer window...
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It got sod all to do with whingers. Quite the opposite. It shows peoples concerns that the gap at the bottom is closing. Maybe were worried that things aren't so rosey as the bespectacled posters believe we have on here.
Just because we post comments that some people don't like to read does NOT mean were doing the club down or stirring the Sh1t. In my case its quite the opposite. What I dont want is to watch is Conf North football with about 25 away fans on a good day.
Here endeth....
You make some valid points there. I am quite positive and optimistic about things. I don't follow alty to be full of worry and pessimism, supporting a football team should be, in my view, about getting the enjoyment you can from it. That doesn't mean I wear rose tinted specs though. Clearly we need to pick up points and the lack of cover is a worry.
That said, I get the impression from some fans that they think we have a complacent board and management team sitting on a pile of cash thinking everything is wonderful and not trying to make things better.
Hi Bob. I do appreciate that money is tight... but we have generated some cash from our cup run etc.
It boils down to how bad do the club want to stay in this league....
I like to think that the answer to that question is " Very much so "
I look forward to seeing some movement during the up and coming transfer window...
Some of our happiest days in the last twenty years saw us get promoted. Some of our worst days saw us get relegated. We made a loss trying to stay up in 2011 and made a loss getting promoted in 2014. Year on year the stats show we spend what money we have. I would be amazed if anyone running this club didnt badly want us to stay up.
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It got sod all to do with whingers. Quite the opposite. It shows peoples concerns that the gap at the bottom is closing. Maybe were worried that things aren't so rosey as the bespectacled posters believe we have on here.
Just because we post comments that some people don't like to read does NOT mean were doing the club down or stirring the Sh1t. In my case its quite the opposite. What I dont want is to watch is Conf North football with about 25 away fans on a good day.
Here endeth....
You make some valid points there. I am quite positive and optimistic about things. I don't follow alty to be full of worry and pessimism, supporting a football team should be, in my view, about getting the enjoyment you can from it. That doesn't mean I wear rose tinted specs though. Clearly we need to pick up points and the lack of cover is a worry.
That said, I get the impression from some fans that they think we have a complacent board and management team sitting on a pile of cash thinking everything is wonderful and not trying to make things better.
Hi Bob. I do appreciate that money is tight... but we have generated some cash from our cup run etc.
It boils down to how bad do the club want to stay in this league....
I like to think that the answer to that question is " Very much so "
I look forward to seeing some movement during the up and coming transfer window...
Some of our happiest days in the last twenty years saw us get promoted. Some of our worst days saw us get relegated. We made a loss trying to stay up in 2011 and made a loss getting promoted in 2014. Year on year the stats show we spend what money we have. I would be amazed if anyone running this club didnt badly want us to stay up.
Great post. On course we all want to stay up - clubs, supporters, everyone. And whether people like it or not, we're on track to stay up whilst spending the minimal amount of cash. I believe the current squad (with less injuries) can see to that; if our position gets a bit more precarious, I'm sure the board will look at it.
If we do stay up, we'll have another go at improving the squad - with Griffith's freed wage and a bit of extra FA Cup money in the coffers. It was, and always will be, a slow build.
We've signed a decent GK, we'd probably now conclude O'Keefe is a better option than Williams, Rankine over Perry, Bowerman over Gillespie(!), Heathcote is coming through - yes we've had some misfortune because of injuries and the model we have to run to, but it's not a crisis. Yet.
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Every chance okeefe is better than Williams however this is hardly a certainty he has played about 3 good matches then got suspended the rest is fair enough