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Title: Alty International XI
Post by: Bear Town Robin on October 05, 2010, 01:45:52 PM
Other than the home nations, what other nationalities have been represented by players pulling on an Alty shirt in a competitve match?
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: Bear Town Robin on October 05, 2010, 01:54:06 PM
Lutel James St Nevis & Kitts ?
Matthew Berkley
Ignacio Ybarra (France)? - think that's his name. Didn't Bernard Taylor sign/trial him? not sure he ever actually played?
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: Redmeister on October 05, 2010, 02:00:37 PM
Lee Ramoon, Cayman Islands international. Think he played for Alty in the mid 90's.
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: casper on October 05, 2010, 02:30:40 PM
Sammy Ayorinde for Nigeria (3 caps)
Lee Ramoon (200+) for the Cayman Isles  (alty 1994/5)
Stan Ackerley (28 caps) and Jason Van Blerk (33 caps) for Australia,
Lutel James (1 cap) for St Kitts and Nevis

Matthew Berkeley has only played for St Kitts and Nevis at under 20 level
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: SW on October 05, 2010, 02:38:51 PM
Billy Phillips, goalkeeper, USA

What nationality was Joe Paladino?
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: distancetraveller on October 05, 2010, 03:07:59 PM
Paddy Fagan played for Republic of Ireland and Alty back in the 60s
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: fuertes on October 05, 2010, 03:42:41 PM
Paddy Fagan played for Republic of Ireland and Alty back in the 60s

Welchy is an Irishman too isn't he? Well hidden by the accent.

Dalton Steele gave the coaching staff an international flavour.
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: casper on October 05, 2010, 04:02:17 PM
Paddy Fagan played for Republic of Ireland and Alty back in the 60s

as did
Mick Smyth (1 cap) and  Ron Healy (2 caps)
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: andrewflynn on October 05, 2010, 04:27:32 PM
We classing Clive Moyo-Modise as South African?
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: casper on October 05, 2010, 05:03:46 PM
We classing Clive Moyo-Modise as South African?
He is South African, but sadly has never made a senior appearance for South Africa. He has been capped at under 21 and 23 level.
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: fuertes on October 05, 2010, 05:08:06 PM
We classing Clive Moyo-Modise as South African?
He is South African, but sadly has never made a senior appearance for South Africa. He has been capped at under 21 and 23 level.

God knows how. South Africa are a vaguely reasonable international football team. Clive had nothing.
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: thegazelle on October 05, 2010, 05:43:34 PM
SW

Joe Paladino was St Helensian its just between the paradise islands of  Wigan and Widnes
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: SW on October 05, 2010, 05:53:50 PM
SW

Joe Paladino was St Helensian its just between the paradise islands of  Wigan and Widnes

 ;D Well that probably counts then.
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: York Alty on October 05, 2010, 07:06:13 PM
jason van blerk.
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: RedhillAlty on October 05, 2010, 07:24:45 PM
I can think of 3 goalkeepers
Colin MacDonald played for England and Bobby Irvine who played for the North of Ireland both played for Alty in I think the 1960's.
Plus Alex Stepney!!!!!!!

I dont recall Ron Healey playing for Alty. He was a local lad as a cousin of mine succeeded him as Goalkeeper at St Peters Priimary in Wythenshawe. Ron was the Irish goalkeeper the last time England beat Irealnd in a competitive match back in 1980.
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: Dougals Dad on October 05, 2010, 10:48:08 PM
Didn't Alex Stepney have a few caps for England?
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: (S)ALTY on October 05, 2010, 10:57:21 PM
Didn't Alex Stepney have a few caps for England?

One to be exact

The story is Matt Busby persuaded Alf Ramsey to pick him so he could have experience of playing at Wembley just before the 1968 European Cup Final
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: Brian Flynn on October 05, 2010, 11:35:26 PM
Lutel James St Nevis & Kitts ?
Matthew Berkley
Ignacio Ybarra (France)? - think that's his name. Didn't Bernard Taylor sign/trial him? not sure he ever actually played?

I'm fairly sure Ignacio Ybarra was Spanish.I think he made one appearance in the 3-0 win at Emley in September 1998.
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: taxi Phil on October 05, 2010, 11:52:52 PM
I know we all think that overseas players at this level are a relatively recent innovation......

But our line-up in my very first game at Moss Lane in 1953 included Hungarian left winger Con Kapler (not an international, but a great favourite of our fans back then).
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 06, 2010, 12:02:36 AM
I know we all think that overseas players at this level are a relatively recent innovation......

But our line-up in my very first game at Moss Lane in 1953 included Hungarian left winger Con Kapler (not an international, but a great favourite of our fans back then).

Phil,

I think you will find that Konrad Kapler was Polish.

Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 06, 2010, 12:06:26 AM
Lutel James St Nevis & Kitts ?
Matthew Berkley
Ignacio Ybarra (France)? - think that's his name. Didn't Bernard Taylor sign/trial him? not sure he ever actually played?

I'm fairly sure Ignacio Ybarra was Spanish.I think he made one appearance in the 3-0 win at Emley in September 1998.

Mister Flynn,

Your memory does you proud.

Here's an excerpt from one of my old articles in the Robins Review:


IGNACIO YBARRA

A rather exclusive gathering of just 437 spectators were privileged to witness this 26 year old Spaniard’s solitary appearance for the Robins when he came on as a substitute for Phil Power during a 3-0 win at Emley in the Unibond League on Saturday, 26th September 1998. Allegedly, he had once been on the books of Real Zaragoza but he joined Alty after a trial period with Rochdale. He soon departed for Doncaster Rovers, where he made one FA Cup appearance, and was last heard of enjoying a siesta at Harrogate Town.



Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: taxi Phil on October 06, 2010, 12:17:57 AM
I know we all think that overseas players at this level are a relatively recent innovation......

But our line-up in my very first game at Moss Lane in 1953 included Hungarian left winger Con Kapler (not an international, but a great favourite of our fans back then).

Phil,

I think you will find that Konrad Kapler was Polish.

He was certainly "Polished" ! I blame my late father for this one if you're correct (and you usually are !)


Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: AltySi on October 06, 2010, 12:28:25 PM
Gerard Leonard - France
Adewale Ajetamobi - Nigeria ( I guessed the spelling)
Soner Zumrutel - Think he was Turkish
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: seasonticket on October 07, 2010, 08:32:16 AM
Kon Kapler was deffo Polish.
For some reason, don't know why, I thought Soner Zumrutel was Swiss. That could be wrong though.
In the fifties Nelson Stiffle played for us and I think, was from Columbia or one of those South American countries
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: george on October 07, 2010, 03:29:59 PM
Ron Healey played for Altrincham v. Buxton (Away) on loan from Man.City
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: taxi Phil on October 07, 2010, 10:34:29 PM
Kon Kapler was deffo Polish.
For some reason, don't know why, I thought Soner Zumrutel was Swiss. That could be wrong though.
In the fifties Nelson Stiffle played for us and I think, was from Columbia or one of those South American countries

I'm sure Cult will correct me again if I'm wrong, but I seem to think Nelson Stiffle was a New Zealander.
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 08, 2010, 12:17:41 AM
Kon Kapler was deffo Polish.
For some reason, don't know why, I thought Soner Zumrutel was Swiss. That could be wrong though.
In the fifties Nelson Stiffle played for us and I think, was from Columbia or one of those South American countries

I'm sure Cult will correct me again if I'm wrong, but I seem to think Nelson Stiffle was a New Zealander.


Phil,

By all accounts, Nelson Stiffle was born in India and died in Australia.


Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: RedhillAlty on October 08, 2010, 05:17:38 AM
Charlie Mitten, born Yangon, Myanmar
Known as the Bogota Bandit and classified as a mercenary for taking money to play in Columbia - no different to the reasons foreigners play in the Premiership today.
However viewed by many as the best English player never to play for England (his parents were Mancs).
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: RedhillAlty on October 08, 2010, 05:27:37 AM
Ron Healey played for Altrincham v. Buxton (Away) on loan from Man.City

When was this and in which competition?
I remember us winning a final (I think NW flloodlit league) in about 1973 at Buxton.
I also remember going to Buxton on a bitterly cold saturday in the early 70's, the day Tommy Docherty's United played a friendly against Rangers at OT, and it was actually warm in Alty that day but snowing and freezing in Buxton. I think I remember George Hislop being at that game when stood on a terrace behind the goal that had crush barriers (unusual for non-league grounds then). I think Alty won.
Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: Brian Flynn on October 08, 2010, 11:17:07 PM
Ron Healey played for Altrincham v. Buxton (Away) on loan from Man.City

When was this and in which competition?
I remember us winning a final (I think NW flloodlit league) in about 1973 at Buxton.
I also remember going to Buxton on a bitterly cold saturday in the early 70's, the day Tommy Docherty's United played a friendly against Rangers at OT, and it was actually warm in Alty that day but snowing and freezing in Buxton. I think I remember George Hislop being at that game when stood on a terrace behind the goal that had crush barriers (unusual for non-league grounds then). I think Alty won.

1973 it was......the first trophy I ever saw us win!

Peter Eales was in goals for us.He made his debut, having signed from South Liverpool, in the first leg of the final.Also making their debuts in that first leg were Gerry Casey & Joe Pritchard, both signed from Ellesmere Port.Three players making their first appearance for Alty in a final must be some sort of record......it was quite bizarre that they joined us after the end of the season but were able to play in the NW Floodlit League Final.

We won the first leg 5-2 & went down 2-1 at Silverlands.At 2-0 down in the second leg, things were looking a bit dodgy but someone grabbed a latish goal for us......possibly Andy Windsor.
Title: Ron Healey (Man City & Alty goalkeeper)
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on November 25, 2010, 12:14:18 AM


Ron Healey played for Altrincham v. Buxton (Away) on loan from Man.City


When was this and in which competition?



Ron Healey's solitary appearance for Altrincham (whilst on loan from Manchester City) occurred in a 2-1 North West Floodlit League fixture at Buxton on 15th October 1969.

(Thanks to the mighty Terry Surridge for his research).





Title: Re: Alty International XI
Post by: gazwarrington on November 25, 2010, 06:47:29 PM
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