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Title: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: JackSwindells No 1 Fan on October 06, 2008, 09:43:30 PM
Just been watchin' Ebbs vs Histon - brought back amazing memories............. winning the league. JK scoring the opener; a true leader!
Gettin' Mr Barrows shirt, helping strip Warby the "trainer" nof his kit in their stand at the end... huge hangover next morning after a night out in posh Chigwell!
Long live Alty, long live the team of 1979/80

Post only if YOU were there!
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: george on October 06, 2008, 10:27:12 PM
I was there. Others, in attendance on our coach Ron & Jackie Gallimore, Noel Shields. Ian Boardman, Dave Thorpe all still watching Alty or working there. Ron led the charge with a bugle borrowed from the Boys' Brigade. Also in attendance Jack Rodgers, Jackie's father who was at Moss Lane on Saturday being presented with a cheque for £3,600 for winning the Yankee. Much deserved all his family are contributors & if everyone was, the club would be a lot better off. End of commercial. COME ON SUPPORT THE CLUB, IT'S ONLY £1 PER WEEK.
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: thegazelle on October 06, 2008, 11:49:16 PM
remarkably i was not there at gravesend. i had an operation the day before. i called mr hall from the hospital at 3.oo pm on the friday said i M FINE WE ARE GOING.(high on whatever sh*t they gave me) book us on the coach. worst bit was derek kennerley not my greatest fan charged me as well

WOKE AT 7.30 THE NEXT DAY WHEN drugs wore off and there was no way i was leaving my bed


the next year fishing in northern ireland the week villa won nthe european cup, spurs qpr cup final or is that a blur of two weeks.


missed 68 as i was only 7 years old . i dont suppose i will ever see alty win the league  as i dont want it to be the unibond blue square north northern counties


on a more positive night how good was the invasion of northwich on the weds we losy but you would never have known it oh kingy kingy kingy why oh why oh why it would have made my life
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 07, 2008, 12:26:19 AM
Yes, I was there.
Halcyon days.

Still recall that Gravesend & Northfleet had their own song as they ran out onto the pitch before kick-off.

I think it went as follows:

"Cheer, cheer, here come The Fleet. They are the team you will never defeat."
Novel...but technically incorrect, as we won 2-0.

In a scrapbook located in my archives, there is still a sod of Gravesend's pitch preserved for eternity in a small polythene bag.
How about that for a sentimental Alty souvenir....?!
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: Jezza on October 07, 2008, 03:36:37 AM

I was there too....I wonder how many Alty fans there actually were that day....it felt like thousands in front of Gravesend's ricketty stand trying to catch the shirts thrown by the players?

Strangely I have much more vivid memories of the Northwich match particularly of the ball leaving Kingys boot and sailing way way over the asbestos stand....and they take the micky out of our wooden stand eh?

Did Gazelle not go to Worcester the following year when we drew and only found out on the radio that we'd won the league?...almost an anti climax that was.

Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: JackSwindells No 1 Fan on October 07, 2008, 07:45:32 AM
Worcester was agony... we were on the way home on the A449 when we got the news that we'd won.... stopped car in next lay by and did somersaults un and down the central reservation! Mganificent!
No mobile phones etc. How did we manage to stay sane waiting for the odd mention on Sports Report.
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: SW on October 07, 2008, 10:13:03 AM
I went on the coach from The Vine in Sale. I can't remember much if anything about the game, the celebrations at the end were great, I got John Connaughtons green keepers shirt. I wore it at Northwich for the cup final in the week and came close to a kicking from our own fans at the end after some melee erupted when Kingy missed his pen. Fancy wearing green to a Vics game.

The comment about it sailing over the stand, IIRC Kingy's pen struck the post? Perhaps my memory is going.

Worcester was an odd day with not knowing the result from Stafford v Kettering. A bit tense in the ground too with no segregation and a mob of Worcester all around us. I'm sure we found out the title was ours back in Alty, we went in The Grapes, but Redhill Alty thinks we stopped at Knutsford Services and bought a Pink. I dunno, can't recall now.
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: Jezza on October 07, 2008, 10:33:59 AM
I got John Connaughtons green keepers shirt

You b$stard SW...I wanted that.....at the Yeovil match after the Worcester game (the one where kingy backheeled our winner in the 90th minute in the pouring rain) I walked all the way round the ground and asked him if I could have his shirt at the end coz some git nudged me out of the way at Gravesend last year.....he seemed to nod agreememt but at the end of the game I was outmuscled again.

I used to stand behind Charlie's goal every single match and modelled my entire goalkeeping strategy around his style of play....he was my absolute hero and I was gutted when after the Enfield Trophy final I overheard him at the homecoming explaining his business reasons for quitting.

So come on...which bugger grabbed charlie's shirt at the yeovil match elbowing me in the face in the process????

This also begs the question...when did alex stepney stop and Charlie take over? I thought stepney was in goals all that season but now I'm thinkng charlie connaughton came in towards the end?
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: jiminlondon on October 07, 2008, 10:43:39 AM
yes i was there
i also cant remember much about the game besides never having a moments doubt what the outcome would be. imagine having that confidence now
i also have vivid memories of wandering around the pitch at the end doing celebration forward rolls






a couple of lads i knew got a slap at worcester the next year
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: SW on October 07, 2008, 11:19:31 AM
Sorry Jezza! I did have a mini tussle with someone to get that shirt, perhaps it was you?
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: thegazelle on October 07, 2008, 11:24:17 AM
sw the bully jezza is ten years younger than you
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: jiminlondon on October 07, 2008, 11:34:19 AM
gazelle - i cant believe that after all those years, all those crappy away games and scary moments, you missed the 2 triumphant days
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: SW on October 07, 2008, 11:35:51 AM
sw the bully jezza is ten years younger than you


Ah, not him then. I didn't wrestle with an 8 year old!
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: ManagementGuru on October 07, 2008, 11:48:13 AM
I was there too!!  It was an amazing day - it felt a bit wierd because before kickoff I simultaneously beleived that the title was in the bag and that there was no chance of Alty actually winning the league (following on from the previous season's second in the NPL).  These two feelings had co-existed through the season what with the losses at Telford, Yeovil and Worcester in the early part of the season and the massively depressing abdications at Nuneaton and Barnet being offset by our amazing home form - confident that we'd win every game and some great away performances at Maidstone, Kettering, Wealdstone, Leamington.

And because it was a brnad new league, you had no idea what any of the opposition would be like - even down to the last day of the season and the match at Gravesend.  Which in the end turned out to be an anticlimax - we won too easily - but the celebrations afterwards were not anticlimatic at all, oh no!

Looking back, I recall a similar dichotomy of feelings at the Wycombe trophy semi-final  -we can win and we can get stuffed simutaneously but having no idea about the opposition - another match that ended up being euphoric and anti-climactic, although with the extra spice of several hundred Wycombe skin heads (I was behind the goal in the away end!)#

Winning the title the following year never meant as much to me as winning the title the first time - probably a bit blase by then!
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 07, 2008, 12:26:07 PM
I went on the coach from The Vine in Sale. I can't remember much if anything about the game, the celebrations at the end were great, I got John Connaughtons green keepers shirt. I wore it at Northwich for the cup final in the week and came close to a kicking from our own fans at the end after some melee erupted when Kingy missed his pen. Fancy wearing green to a Vics game.

The comment about it sailing over the stand, IIRC Kingy's pen struck the post? Perhaps my memory is going.

Worcester was an odd day with not knowing the result from Stafford v Kettering. A bit tense in the ground too with no segregation and a mob of Worcester all around us. I'm sure we found out the title was ours back in Alty, we went in The Grapes, but Redhill Alty thinks we stopped at Knutsford Services and bought a Pink. I dunno, can't recall now.

Indeed, Worcester away back in May 1980 was a rather uncomfortable and anticlimactic occasion.
One of those days when you tried to keep relatively quiet and blend in with the locals.

A very dull 0-0 draw unfolded and I seem to recall hearing someone say that Kettering were winning at Stafford, so when the final whistle went we assumed that we still needed to beat Yeovil at Moss Lane on the following Monday to clinch the title.

As we were sitting on the supporters' coach awaiting to leave the ground, I do believe that none other than Noel White himself got on board and informed us that we had actually won the league!
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: Brian Flynn on October 07, 2008, 01:18:34 PM
I got John Connaughtons green keepers shirt

You b$stard SW...I wanted that.....at the Yeovil match after the Worcester game (the one where kingy backheeled our winner in the 90th minute in the pouring rain) I walked all the way round the ground and asked him if I could have his shirt at the end coz some git nudged me out of the way at Gravesend last year.....he seemed to nod agreememt but at the end of the game I was outmuscled again.

I used to stand behind Charlie's goal every single match and modelled my entire goalkeeping strategy around his style of play....he was my absolute hero and I was gutted when after the Enfield Trophy final I overheard him at the homecoming explaining his business reasons for quitting.

So come on...which bugger grabbed charlie's shirt at the yeovil match elbowing me in the face in the process????

This also begs the question...when did alex stepney stop and Charlie take over? I thought stepney was in goals all that season but now I'm thinkng charlie connaughton came in towards the end?

Alex Stepney made his debut in a 3-1 win over Nuneaton Borough in September 79 & his final appearance was the 5-1 defeat in the F.A. Trophy at home to Mossley in February 2000.I think that John Connaughton may have made his debut two days after this when we hit Barnet for seven in the Alliance Premier League Cup.Graham Barrow got a hat trick,if I remember correctly,& Kevin Blackwell was the unfortunate Barnet keeper!
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: Ballers on October 07, 2008, 01:33:10 PM

Alex Stepney made his debut in a 3-1 win over Nuneaton Borough in September 79 & his final appearance was the 5-1 defeat in the F.A. Trophy at home to Mossley in February 2000.I think that John Connaughton may have made his debut two days after this when we hit Barnet for seven in the Alliance Premier League Cup.Graham Barrow got a hat trick,if I remember correctly,& Kevin Blackwell was the unfortunate Barnet keeper!

 :o flipping heck, no wonder we lost, we were probably lucky to only ship 5. Was Coburn/Greygoose/Key injured? Could we not have got a younger keeper like Ian Senior in or something?

*With apologies for interrupting a thread I'm not allowed on* Am I right in thinking that ex Leeds manager Kevin Blackwell was also in goals for Kettering on that epic January afternoon when Ken McKenna scored the last minute winner at the Golf Road end?
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: ManagementGuru on October 07, 2008, 01:42:09 PM
Alex Stepney's actual FINAL appearnace for Alty in a competitive match was the 0-2 home defeat to Northwich at the tail end of the 81-82 season (I think) - certainly in the tail end of a season where we had three or four games a week (so the trophy final season is a contender).   It was a Thursday night, no-one was there (or so it felt) and Stepney was so old he couldn't bend his knees.  He looked so frail that I was worried that if he dived he'd shatter into thousands of pieces when he hit the ground.  So he didn't dive - not once.  Vics had two shots on target.  Stepney did not wear his trademark white kid gloves.

Also, I was in a pub in St Albans once (and only ever once) and  enquired of the barman if he had a copy of the Evening Standard so I could see the FA Cup 1st round draw - and so I discovered we were away to Sheffield United.  The barman was Kevin Blackwell and we had a great chat about all things non league.  He was a really nice bloke and very well informed about non League - an enjoyable evening
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 07, 2008, 05:24:14 PM

Alex Stepney made his debut in a 3-1 win over Nuneaton Borough in September 79 & his final appearance was the 5-1 defeat in the F.A. Trophy at home to Mossley in February 2000.I think that John Connaughton may have made his debut two days after this when we hit Barnet for seven in the Alliance Premier League Cup.Graham Barrow got a hat trick,if I remember correctly,& Kevin Blackwell was the unfortunate Barnet keeper!

 :o flipping heck, no wonder we lost, we were probably lucky to only ship 5. Was Coburn/Greygoose/Key injured? Could we not have got a younger keeper like Ian Senior in or something?

*With apologies for interrupting a thread I'm not allowed on* Am I right in thinking that ex Leeds manager Kevin Blackwell was also in goals for Kettering on that epic January afternoon when Ken McKenna scored the last minute winner at the Golf Road end?

Ballers,

You are indeed correct.
Kevin Blackwell was the Kettering Town goalkeeper beaten by Ken McKenna's epic last minute winner.
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 07, 2008, 05:31:21 PM
Alex Stepney's actual FINAL appearnace for Alty in a competitive match was the 0-2 home defeat to Northwich at the tail end of the 81-82 season (I think) - certainly in the tail end of a season where we had three or four games a week (so the trophy final season is a contender).   It was a Thursday night, no-one was there (or so it felt) and Stepney was so old he couldn't bend his knees.  He looked so frail that I was worried that if he dived he'd shatter into thousands of pieces when he hit the ground.  So he didn't dive - not once.  Vics had two shots on target.  Stepney did not wear his trademark white kid gloves.


Mr Guru,

It was indeed the 1981/82 season when Stepney made a 'special guest appearance' against Vics.

Our respective FA Cup and FA Trophy runs engendered a quite horrendous fixture backlog.

From my records, how about this for a busy eight days?

April

24th (Saturday) Runcorn (Cheshire Senior Cup Final at Crewe)
26th Frickley Athletic (H)
28th Barrow (A)
29th Northwich Vics (H)
30th Worcester City (A)

May
1st Trowbridge Town (A)
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on October 07, 2008, 06:19:44 PM
Alex Stepney's actual FINAL appearnace for Alty in a competitive match was the 0-2 home defeat to Northwich at the tail end of the 81-82 season (I think) - certainly in the tail end of a season where we had three or four games a week (so the trophy final season is a contender).   It was a Thursday night, no-one was there (or so it felt) and Stepney was so old he couldn't bend his knees.  He looked so frail that I was worried that if he dived he'd shatter into thousands of pieces when he hit the ground.  So he didn't dive - not once.  Vics had two shots on target.  Stepney did not wear his trademark white kid gloves.

I was there. The rumour mill was churning out all sorts about Stepney only being included to have a go at F***shaw (if only).
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: bigedd on October 07, 2008, 08:23:28 PM
I Was there, got all the Players autographs, in the programme, its my treasured Programme.
Also took photo in Tunnel, of  Kingy holding  Alliance Premier Shield , the Picture came out too dark.
What a day
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: JackSwindells No 1 Fan on October 07, 2008, 10:08:56 PM
Kevin Blackwell was one of those truly great non leagure players and characters. Even though as I recall he was at Boston for a time!
He was always good for some banter during the game. Good keeper.
Now here's an old one though, anyone got any good Johnny Cooke stories (Macc keeper late 60s!) He and our great George Smith were also great characters.
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: Saughall Robin on October 08, 2008, 09:11:39 AM
Kevin Blackwell was one of those truly great non leagure players and characters. Even though as I recall he was at Boston for a time! He was always good for some banter during the game. Good keeper. Now here's an old one though, anyone got any good Johnny Cooke stories (Macc keeper late 60s!) He and our great George Smith were also great characters.
What a big bugger he was! He always seemed to dominate the game at corners with his sheer size and presence. I remember one match when Halliwell went up at a corner and headed him instead of the ball! He just checked his nose for blood and wagged a finger at Derek in an 'I'll see you later' kind of way. I couldn't hate Macc any more than I do but you had to respect him! Putting 6 past him in the Champs v Runners-up game in 69 (6-1 at Macc) was a great achievement!  ;)
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: Brian Flynn on October 08, 2008, 02:53:18 PM

Alex Stepney made his debut in a 3-1 win over Nuneaton Borough in September 79 & his final appearance was the 5-1 defeat in the F.A. Trophy at home to Mossley in February 2000.I think that John Connaughton may have made his debut two days after this when we hit Barnet for seven in the Alliance Premier League Cup.Graham Barrow got a hat trick,if I remember correctly,& Kevin Blackwell was the unfortunate Barnet keeper!

 :o flipping heck, no wonder we lost, we were probably lucky to only ship 5. Was Coburn/Greygoose/Key injured? Could we not have got a younger keeper like Ian Senior in or something?

*With apologies for interrupting a thread I'm not allowed on* Am I right in thinking that ex Leeds manager Kevin Blackwell was also in goals for Kettering on that epic January afternoon when Ken McKenna scored the last minute winner at the Golf Road end?

Ballers,

You are indeed correct.
Kevin Blackwell was the Kettering Town goalkeeper beaten by Ken McKenna's epic last minute winner.

I am indeed showing some initial signs of senility!!! :o
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: Steve the Steward on October 08, 2008, 09:32:37 PM
I was there. Went on the supporters coach which arrived about 15 mins after kick off. Don't remember much about the game, except the  pitch invasion at the end and all of us going balliatic in front of the main stand trying to catch one of the players shirts.
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: Ballers on October 08, 2008, 09:55:00 PM
I was there. Went on the supporters coach which arrived about 15 mins after kick off. Don't remember much about the game, except the  pitch invasion at the end and all of us going balliatic in front of the main stand trying to catch one of the players shirts.

Balletic? Now there's an image.
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 09, 2008, 12:05:49 AM
I was there. Went on the supporters coach which arrived about 15 mins after kick off. Don't remember much about the game, except the  pitch invasion at the end and all of us going balliatic in front of the main stand trying to catch one of the players shirts.

Balletic? Now there's an image.

Ballers,

I can confirm that George Heslop always wore a tutu at all Alty away games back in those days....
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: JackSwindells No 1 Fan on October 09, 2008, 08:00:42 AM
I'm the lucky b***er that got Graham barrow's shirt, still have it. GB signed it last season when he returned!
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: RedhillAlty on October 12, 2008, 07:42:08 AM
I was also at Gravesend and went on that coach that arrived late and got back to Alty very late
I was stood at the match with a 6 year old Matt Holland (Irish International) and his Dad.
The celebrations were magnificent
The thing about that game was theat we had a job to do in order to win the title - and did it ourselves.
Johnny King - greatest leader of all time
The ground was an antique wreck - and its the same today and probably the worse in this league

Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: Ballers on October 12, 2008, 01:14:38 PM
Why was Matt Holland at the game?I presume he was a London lad that you happened to know or does he bizarrely have some connection to Alty?
Title: Re: Gravesend 1980 - were you there?
Post by: Brian Flynn on October 12, 2008, 08:32:54 PM
Why was Matt Holland at the game?I presume he was a London lad that you happened to know or does he bizarrely have some connection to Alty?

As the song goes "you took the words right out of my mouth" & as I am having a bit of a Meatloaf moment........"Don't be sad.......coz five out of six ain't bad ":D