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Title: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on December 05, 2010, 10:02:59 AM
Now
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: Jacko on December 05, 2010, 04:51:19 PM
Lol,its each to there own especially now theres nothing going on because stubborn non league football hasn't got the brains to evolve and have a winter break,   I actually think the match prediction thread is tedious tbh
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: george on December 05, 2010, 05:02:51 PM
Winter breaks in this country won't work. When do you select which month. General opinion would be December or January time. However, our weather is so unpredictable, when the non league games are going to be hit.
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: Narcissist on December 05, 2010, 05:15:08 PM
Lol,its each to there own especially now theres nothing going on because stubborn non league football hasn't got the brains to evolve and have a winter break,   I actually think the match prediction thread is tedious tbh

A winter break in last week nov/early dec? And if we were to take up that crap idea why would we have anything more going on?

Another f**king stupid post. I hope we start winning games left right and centre soon if not just to stop me having to read all the tripe that comes when we don't!
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: Bob on December 05, 2010, 05:22:07 PM
Agreed about a winter break being unworkable. What would happen to the FA Cup and FA Trophy?  The FA Cup 3rd round is probably the single biggest potential money spinner for any non-league club. and a winter break would kill it off.  Same too for the lucrative Boxing Day and New Years Day matches.  Also you'd have to reduce the number of teams in a league so there's less income throughout the season.  There's always a risk of games being off during winter but effectively scrapping them anyway doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: Jacko on December 05, 2010, 07:03:02 PM
Lol,its each to there own especially now theres nothing going on because stubborn non league football hasn't got the brains to evolve and have a winter break,   I actually think the match prediction thread is tedious tbh

A winter break in last week nov/early dec? And if we were to take up that crap idea why would we have anything more going on?

Another f**king stupid post. I hope we start winning games left right and centre soon if not just to stop me having to read all the tripe that comes when we don't!
another f**king stubborn old fashioned post,u obviously want fixture pile ups  for non league sides like us, enjoy watching postponed on the vidi printer do u?
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: Jacko on December 05, 2010, 07:18:47 PM
I'm sorry but in this day and age where games are getting called off all the time because of access to the ground what chance have we got? And lucrative winter matches are a thing of the past for us
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: Jacko on December 05, 2010, 07:43:56 PM
I'm not Michael fish but does it not seem obvious that Dec-Jan are normally the most weathered so a sneaky break might do us a favour, because u don't get as many fans coming to matches when its cold did u know ;)
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: York Alty on December 05, 2010, 08:07:08 PM
I'm not Michael fish but does it not seem obvious that Dec-Jan are normally the most weathered so a sneaky break might do us a favour, because u don't get as many fans coming to matches when its cold did u know ;)

depends if its FA Cup 3rd round day, boxing day or a derbyt fixture.

this the MOST BORING topic ever - it's a duff idea.
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: Jacko on December 05, 2010, 08:07:39 PM
thing is you're saying that but our games were called off in November!
Exactly!!! So how many are we gonna see this month its gonna be worse, evolve.com
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: Narcissist on December 05, 2010, 08:15:40 PM
Lol,its each to there own especially now theres nothing going on because stubborn non league football hasn't got the brains to evolve and have a winter break,   I actually think the match prediction thread is tedious tbh

A winter break in last week nov/early dec? And if we were to take up that crap idea why would we have anything more going on?

Another f**king stupid post. I hope we start winning games left right and centre soon if not just to stop me having to read all the tripe that comes when we don't!
another f**king stubborn old fashioned post,u obviously want fixture pile ups  for non league sides like us, enjoy watching postponed on the vidi printer do u?

A couple of things Jacko, first off you said that nothings going on because there isnt a winter break. What would be going on if there was? Nothing.

So it was a f**king stupid post.

Secondly, as pointed out this happened in November and the beginning of december. February might also have to be considered, why dont we just go summer season and clash with cricket and holidays, a nation of part-time footballers would love that. Or we skip dec-jan and play 2 games a week all season to keep summer, that will help our players wont it?

A winter break would be 3 weeks max like here in France, so it doesnt upset the summer break, where fans go on holiday. To suggest that a 2-3 week break should commence in the first week of december and then start again at xmas is ludicrous.

So, either way it was a stupid f**king post.

Im not a dinosaur, im all for a winter break for the prem and championship where players have other playing commitments every other summer and through the season, it would bring more fans through our gates in the festive matches. If you believe that xmas doesnt bring in bumper crowds when the matches are on then I disagree.
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: Bob on December 05, 2010, 08:20:01 PM
Suppose we have our winter break and we're sitting at home on Boxing Day with Moss Lane empty and unused even though a match may have been playable anyway...

Last winter was a poor one but there was no pile up, better to have postponed games that we'll still play than no games at all.

Winter break means less games in a season meaning less total crowds, less sponsors, less bar takings, a decimated FA cup, less chance to sell Xmas draw tickets, less reason to talk about the club and more bizarre postings about smelly farts... ;)
 
The only benefit from a winter break is for the top clubs so the players don't supposedly burn out. But for a club like Alty it would be financial suicide.
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: Jacko on December 05, 2010, 08:27:11 PM
Lol,its each to there own especially now theres nothing going on because stubborn non league football hasn't got the brains to evolve and have a winter break,   I actually think the match prediction thread is tedious tbh

A winter break in last week nov/early dec? And if we were to take up that crap idea why would we have anything more going on?

Another f**king stupid post. I hope we start winning games left right and centre soon if not just to stop me having to read all the tripe that comes when we don't!
another f**king stubborn old fashioned post,u obviously want fixture pile ups  for non league sides like us, enjoy watching postponed on the vidi printer do u?

A couple of things Jacko, first off you said that nothings going on because there isnt a winter break. What would be going on if there was? Nothing.

So it was a f**king stupid post.

Secondly, as pointed out this happened in November and the beginning of december. February might also have to be considered, why dont we just go summer season and clash with cricket and holidays, a nation of part-time footballers would love that. Or we skip dec-jan and play 2 games a week all season to keep summer, that will help our players wont it?

A winter break would be 3 weeks max like here in France, so it doesnt upset the summer break, where fans go on holiday. To suggest that a 2-3 week break should commence in the first week of december and then start again at xmas is ludicrous.

So, either way it was a stupid f**king post.

Im not a dinosaur, im all for a winter break for the prem and championship where players have other playing commitments every other summer and through the season, it would bring more fans through our gates in the festive matches. If you believe that xmas doesnt bring in bumper crowds when the matches are on then I disagree.
I think the fact that u have mentioned clashing with cricket means i have won this one, i said jan to dec, dependent on when the frost sets in, look i really dont think were gonna see much football again untill mid jan so i dont get how im wrong?
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: Narcissist on December 05, 2010, 09:37:46 PM
I'm not Michael fish but does it not seem obvious that Dec-Jan are normally the most weathered so a sneaky break might do us a favour, because u don't get as many fans coming to matches when its cold did u know ;)

You didn't say jan-dec tho did you? And I'm not sure what difference it makes anyway. Taking those 2 months out of the season will make football clash with major cricket in summer. Alty don't need another rival to compete with for fans, that was my point you missed by a country mile.

So basically, if it makes you happy then yes you've won this one. What you have won I'm not sure other than proving your f**king clueless and post some of the most idiotic diatribe suffered on this forum.

Just an addition too, if we take dec-jan out (or even better jan to dec) of the season and then lose February to frost in a world cup year, what would you suggest?
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: Jacko on December 05, 2010, 09:51:36 PM
do u have to swear are u angry love?
If its a stupid post why do most countries without undersoiled heating do exactly this?
i think it would be good for the non league game to not have every game postponed as that is worse than seeing your team beat every week imo,its bordering farcical to set up fixtures knowing they will be called off, i would have a month around mid dec to mid jan,
 OGC i actually feel sorry for your ignorance and stubborness but im sure another month of postponements this year might make u see the light one day
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: Narcissist on December 06, 2010, 07:35:06 AM
do u have to swear are u angry love?
If its a stupid post why do most countries without undersoiled heating do exactly this?
i think it would be good for the non league game to not have every game postponed as that is worse than seeing your team beat every week imo,its bordering farcical to set up fixtures knowing they will be called off, i would have a month around mid dec to mid jan,
 OGC i actually feel sorry for your ignorance and stubborness but im sure another month of postponements this year might make u see the light one day

Right, nice one, thanks for your sympathies. Still swerving the main point which is in what sense does not having a winter break mean there's not much going on at the moment?

We can have all the games between now and feb postponed but unless someone proposes something logistically feasible I disagree. Jacko posts rubbish on here all the time which is provocative a la ATS so no point being surprised if people bite back. There's nothing else to do right now, what with no winter break....
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: Jacko on December 06, 2010, 10:00:41 AM
I just think we need to sort it out ogc, I'm not saying I know the answer but it does get people down seeing p-p on are game when others are playing three games a week its a shame, by the way I won £130 on a lille,lyon,toulouse treble this weekend, why is the French league good to bet on?!!!!
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: MadFrankie on December 06, 2010, 10:27:01 AM
Seeing as snow can occur any time from late November to February, a winter break is unworkable unless it's 3 months long - clearly no-one would want this.
I think we can all deal with the occasional game being called off due to the weather. It's unfortunate when Boxing Day/New Year's Day games are affected by the weather, but it hardly happens ever year does it.
Any solution such as summer football would require the whole of English football to changeover, which is never going to happen is it.

Anyway, freezing your nuts off at a Senior Cup game at Cheadle Town on a Tuesday night in January is character forming.
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: Butty on December 06, 2010, 09:16:44 PM
I know this may sound ridiculous but here I go. Why not have a flexible break- so, say for November, December, January and February, scheduale 3 months of football- so that when the weather sets in (and looks like itll stay) we can take an impromptu break. Back to the argument, I'd like to see a winter break, even if it was for just one season to see whether or not it is practical.
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: York Alty on December 07, 2010, 08:20:32 PM
I know this may sound ridiculous but here I go. Why not have a flexible break- so, say for November, December, January and February, scheduale 3 months of football- so that when the weather sets in (and looks like itll stay) we can take an impromptu break. Back to the argument, I'd like to see a winter break, even if it was for just one season to see whether or not it is practical.

which season are you going to choose then?

how about next seaons - we may get a damp mild winter rendering the experiment null 'n void. plus the idea of a flexible break, Club A selss 35000 tickets for a game that may or may not be played at the time stated.  Would you buy it not knowing when the fixture is even scheduled to be played?  no.  course not.  bang goes the cash flow for 4 months.

sorry. no

Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: Jacko on December 07, 2010, 08:40:29 PM
I know this may sound ridiculous but here I go. Why not have a flexible break- so, say for November, December, January and February, scheduale 3 months of football- so that when the weather sets in (and looks like itll stay) we can take an impromptu break. Back to the argument, I'd like to see a winter break, even if it was for just one season to see whether or not it is practical.
exactly, and I don't see peoples point about losing money as our gates our bad when its cold anyway so we will gain if its played in a warmer climate
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: taxi Phil on December 07, 2010, 09:21:42 PM
The reason your argument makes no sense is because there will be games on in the next few weeks, there is every chance out trophy game will be played.

In fact a conference game is being played right now.

Bet it ain't at Gateshead.....
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: Butty on December 07, 2010, 10:59:48 PM
The reason your argument makes no sense is because there will be games on in the next few weeks, there is every chance out trophy game will be played.

In fact a conference game is being played right now.

Well we've just had a few weeks off- we could have had a (short notice) schedualed break then- it leaves a level playing field for all as apposed to a few teams playing here or there. Most fans make a decision to go to a game based on the weather- if it's fairly cold (but the pitch is barely playable) a break may make some sense as itd be better to get 1000 fans a month later (when its above freexing) than on the night, which may attract around 600 fans.
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: Jacko on December 07, 2010, 11:05:34 PM
The reason your argument makes no sense is because there will be games on in the next few weeks, there is every chance out trophy game will be played.

In fact a conference game is being played right now.
in front of 190 fans
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: RockyRobin on December 08, 2010, 08:13:25 AM
Seeing as snow can occur any time from late November to February, a winter break is unworkable unless it's 3 months long - clearly no-one would want this.
I think we can all deal with the occasional game being called off due to the weather. It's unfortunate when Boxing Day/New Year's Day games are affected by the weather, but it hardly happens ever year does it.
Any solution such as summer football would require the whole of English football to changeover, which is never going to happen is it.

Anyway, freezing your nuts off at a Senior Cup game at Cheadle Town on a Tuesday night in January is character forming.

Quite but driving up from that London for a home fixture against Runcorn only for a two foot numptie to call it off 10 minutes before KO is not!
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: william122 on December 08, 2010, 05:24:58 PM
denis law always had a winter break he never played over christmas and new year he always made sure he was suspended thats the way to do it lol :D
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: John Crewe on December 08, 2010, 07:13:38 PM
if we had a winter break it could only be for 3 or 4 weeks and it would have to be in january as that is usually the coldest month. we would have to play the fa trophy in mid week earlier in the season so not a good idea. also as we have now what if the weather is bad in december and games called off then weather is fine in januray but no games due to winter break? fixture pile up would not work. of course u could start the season earlier and finish it later but that would hit part time teams in the pocket as you would have to pay players for a much longer season part of which they were doing nowt!
Title: Re: All time most tedious selection of forum topics?
Post by: Bob on December 09, 2010, 10:55:48 AM
Interesting article here...

http://www.footballeconomy.com/content/weather-outlook-worries-clubs

Very good website too, plenty of revealing news and stats.