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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Timperley The Best on March 26, 2023, 03:00:02 PM
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Think I may have deleted the original thread by mistake . Apologies to whoever started the thread .A tough game with a few changes, a draw would be a great result.
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Play the kids. 0-0
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Play everyone covered head to foot in cotton wool.
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Yeah I started a thread - thought I'd gone mad!
Basically I suggested a mixture of first teamers and players that need minutes the most:
Byrne
Perritt Ferguson Baines
MWH E.Jones
Pringle Osborne
Burgess Bennett
Hugill
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Defo rest Lundstram and Marriott.
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Yeah I started a thread - thought I'd gone mad!
Basically I suggested a mixture of first teamers and players that need minutes the most:
Byrne
Perritt Ferguson Baines
MWH E.Jones
Pringle Osborne
Burgess Bennett
Hugill
Not that it matters much, as long as we win vs Halifax, but with that midfield I think we'd be overrun and make our already poor negative goal difference diabolical!
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Defo rest Lundstram and Marriott.
Agreed maybe E Jones and Hulme also
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Yeah I started a thread - thought I'd gone mad!
Basically I suggested a mixture of first teamers and players that need minutes the most:
Byrne
Perritt Ferguson Baines
MWH E.Jones
Pringle Osborne
Burgess Bennett
Hugill
I’d consider bringing Gould in for Byrne and the other United youngster (forgot his name) in for Baines, who hasn’t appeared for us yet! Rest Eddie too, but not sure who will fill in at LB?
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I think we still have go relatively strong on Tuesday night. Notts are a fantastic side & we rest too many we’ll get absolutely done & our confidence takes a big blow before Saturday. Also think there’s a big element of players want to play in the biggest games against the best opponents & this is a big game. Ideally get our key men subbed off early, no injuries & a good performance will do me-result doesn’t matter. Be interesting to see the attendance too & how many they bring, we should be over 2k I’d assume if they bring about 6-700.
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Grimsby brought 1,200 on a Tuesday. And Notts got over 16,000 on Saturday. I'm not saying you're wrong necessarily, just that they ought to bring more than that with them in a title race. Didn't we bring about 700 to Colchester in 1991?
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I think they'll definitely bring four figures in all their away games until they drop points and give up on winning the league. Hopefully we can get something out of this game but I have my doubts. A heartening performance to keep morale up for Saturday would be what I'd hope for.
PS. We've got another semi final the following Tuesday as well! 🤞🏆
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If we play a weak side it will get seriously messy. I’d rest Hulme as Linney is a good like-for-like and is unavailable on Saturday, and perhaps Lundstram given he played last Tuesday. The rest have just had a week off and should play again in my opinion. If we start trying to make it work with a midfield two of Pringle and Osborne, as suggested, we will get battered.
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Listening to Parkys post match interview I think it will be a reasonably strong team
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If we play a weak side it will get seriously messy. I’d rest Hulme as Linney is a good like-for-like and is unavailable on Saturday, and perhaps Lundstram given he played last Tuesday. The rest have just had a week off and should play again in my opinion. If we start trying to make it work with a midfield two of Pringle and Osborne, as suggested, we will get battered.
All this really.
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I agree with others, we need to put a strongish team out against Notts, I don't mind a bit of rotation. Players would rather play.
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Difficult to known what to do for tomorrow, but as others have said, avoiding injuries is the priority.
I'd start Linney and then have a relatively strong side made up of regulars plus a few who are normally benched, possibly including Gould.
I'm expecting to get nothing out of this, and if we come through unscathed and having not let in too many goals I will rest easy.
I'd take 1-2 to County tbh.
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Exactly my thoughts.
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I think we'll play the same team; perhaps Perritt in for Miles.
Parkinson will have one eye on the fact he turned down the opposition in the summer.
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I think we'll play the same team; perhaps Perritt in for Miles.
Parkinson will have one eye on the fact he turned down the opposition in the summer.
Agreed. He also mentioned in his post-match interview on Saturday that he wouldn't be unnecessarily rotating.
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I would not be risking Marriott,Lundstram, Baines and E. Jones ( no LB cover ).
Much weaker team if we lose one of the CM, god forbidden,both.
The semi final is far too big of game to risk certain players.
Not ideal but Perritt, Osborne, Pringle could play CM for 1 game.
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If we were playing Maidstone I’d agree but we could get pumped 3/4-0 by these at full strength let alone with a make shift XI. We simply have to keep momentum up, I don’t think wrapping our best players in cotton wool does them any favours in a momentum based sport. God forbid there’s an injury, unfortunately “that’s football.”
I’d go:
Byrne
Jones Ferguson Baines
MWH Marriott Osborne Jones
Bennett
Linney Hugill
And I’d be looking to rotate Marriott for Perritt around the hour mark.
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Wonder whether Oyedele will be back and in contention for a start on Saturday?
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Wonder whether Oyedele will be back and in contention for a start on Saturday?
Yep, barring injury, I reckon he'll be starting
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That's a good bit of news then. He's been a real asset to us and offers options in different positions and/or formations. 👍
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Given that Maxi played 90 minutes for Poland U19s and he's travelled (albeit not that far really) I'd let him rest for tomorrow evening.
Definite starter for Saturday.
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Given that Maxi played 90 minutes for Poland U19s and he's travelled (albeit not that far really) I'd let him rest for tomorrow evening.
Definite starter for Saturday.
Maxi is still on international duty - they have a game tomorrow, so he won’t be involved for us against Notts.
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Not often I would wish for a PP game but with heavy rain forecast today it would do us a massive favour for Saturday if the game was PP tonight.
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But would a PP suit PP ?
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A postponement would be most welcome.
Get Antony Taylor down early afternoon
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A postponement would be most welcome.
Get Antony Taylor down early afternoon
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You know it makes sense
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PP be happy with a PP if it PP it down
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A postponement would be most welcome.
Get Antony Taylor down early afternoon
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You know it makes sense
You read my mind.. Anthony Taylor says no from his armchair. Play it later in the season.
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I did think the game would be a doubt given the forecast, but in the middle of town it doesn't seem to have been coming down too bad this morning.
Would obviously much prefer it to be off - and I never thought I'd ever say that about an Altrincham football match.
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If the conditions are similar in Halifax there could be a scenario where we play and they get the night off...
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Hope somebody hasn't accidentally left the sprinklers on high power.😱
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The details of Phil Parkinson's somewhat experimental Alty starting XI for tonight's fixture against Notts County have just leaked online:
1. Ian Senior
2. Shaun Densmore
3. Peter Densmore
4. Frank Sinclair (aiming to do his old club Wrexham a favour)
5. Danny Higginbotham
6. Neil Sorvel
7. Sir Graham Brady (who has allegedly asked for a salary of £60k per year and also reportedly demanded to be played on the right wing)
8. Kyle Perry
9. Byron Harrison
10. Morrissey
11. Johnny Marr (the first time that he has played alongside No. 10 since 1986).
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The details of Phil Parkinson's somewhat experimental Alty starting XI for tonight's fixture against Notts County have just leaked online:
1. Ian Senior
2. Shaun Densmore
3. Peter Densmore
4. Frank Sinclair (aiming to do his old club Wrexham a favour)
5. Danny Higginbotham
6. Neil Sorvel
7. Sir Graham Brady (who has allegedly asked for a salary of £60k per year and also reportedly demanded to be played on the right wing)
8. Kyle Perry
9. Byron Harrison
10. Morrissey
11. Johnny Marr (the first time that he has played alongside No. 10 since 1986).
Suspect source but if you're sure it's reliable it's an inspired selection. Brilliant!
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7. Sir Graham Brady (who has allegedly asked for a salary of £60k per year and also reportedly demanded to be played on the right wing)
I heard his wife will also take over all administration at the club for the duration of his playing career. Salaried of course :) He will also petition for the club to forge links with overseas club, with many possibility of overseas summer tours (all outside the EU however)
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The details of Phil Parkinson's somewhat experimental Alty starting XI for tonight's fixture against Notts County have just leaked online:
1. Ian Senior
2. Shaun Densmore
3. Peter Densmore
4. Frank Sinclair (aiming to do his old club Wrexham a favour)
5. Danny Higginbotham
6. Neil Sorvel
7. Sir Graham Brady (who has allegedly asked for a salary of £60k per year and also reportedly demanded to be played on the right wing)
8. Kyle Perry
9. Byron Harrison
10. Morrissey
11. Johnny Marr (the first time that he has played alongside No. 10 since 1986).
I see Chris Senior, therefore, continues to elude us.
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https://twitter.com/altrinchamfc/status/1640718057642524673
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The details of Phil Parkinson's somewhat experimental Alty starting XI for tonight's fixture against Notts County have just leaked online:
1. Ian Senior
2. Shaun Densmore
3. Peter Densmore
4. Frank Sinclair (aiming to do his old club Wrexham a favour)
5. Danny Higginbotham
6. Neil Sorvel
7. Sir Graham Brady (who has allegedly asked for a salary of £60k per year and also reportedly demanded to be played on the right wing)
8. Kyle Perry
9. Byron Harrison
10. Morrissey
11. Johnny Marr (the first time that he has played alongside No. 10 since 1986).
That's brilliant , not sure about Danny Higginbottom at CB mind or is he playing in the Beckenbauer mold .
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Byrne, perritt,Ferguson,baines,e jones, lundstrom(c),Marriot,pringle,Osbourn,sinclair,linney.
Subs Burgess,gould,J Jones, bennett,Hugill
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sounds like we've been mugged by a quickly taken free kick. how many times have we seen that over the years?
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sounds like we've been mugged by a quickly taken free kick. how many times have we seen that over the years?
Definitely, there good, shame we couldn't convert the pen. Mugged for there pen, was it in the box and harsh.
We hit the bar, if we'd had our best 11 out and not had a cup semi on Saturday, maybe a different game.
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I’m not sure it would’ve mattered too much. They were leagues above us and nearly every other side in this division..having said that there were times where we got in behind them and created chances. You just felt that even if we had scored they would’ve found a way to come back.
Not a bad night for us all in all. We matched them in the first half, I thought and then weren’t blown away in a manner that would be detrimental for Saturday. Notts look League 1 standard and we had our moments. Swiftly moving on I’d say
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My only worry is if Marriot is ok
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My only worry is if Marriot is ok
Subbed because he was on a yellow. He is fine.
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Wrong team, waste of subs, Pringle (thanks but time up), Elliott miles off the pace in many a game but was lost wandering today, Ollys kicking was poor and to sum
The night up, it was men (plus the refs) against boys! The worst prep possible for Saturday IMO! Half the Mag 7 would walk back into this team and replace those mentioned!
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Think my view is more in line with Golfroader.
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Wrong team, waste of subs, Pringle (thanks but time up), Elliott miles off the pace in many a game but was lost wandering today, Ollys kicking was poor and to sum
The night up, it was men (plus the refs) against boys! The worst prep possible for Saturday IMO! Half the Mag 7 would walk back into this team and replace those mentioned!
Massive overreaction. We defended well against a strong team, their 2 goals were 2 dodgy decisions and things could have gone a completely different way on a different night. Yes pringle and osbourne were poor but we already knew that
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Think my view is more in line with Golfroader.
Ditto. Whilst the manner of the sly free kick & the tale of two pens is frustrating they were absolutely top class. The pressing, the passing, the decision making-it was like watching a Conference version of Pep’s City I thought. IMO they play much better football then Wrexham even if they will finish second. Not sure mind why fewer then 600 away fans are allowed the last third of the Pop Side when there is a perfectly adequate terrace they haven’t filled. Seems a bit of last minute panic which is not ideal.
From our side, no one injured, no one sent off & the last 30 minutes was basically a testimonial pace, absolutely fine. We worked very hard, kept our shape & discipline & had the odd moment but now we move onto the main event.
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Wrong team, waste of subs, Pringle (thanks but time up), Elliott miles off the pace in many a game but was lost wandering today, Ollys kicking was poor and to sum
The night up, it was men (plus the refs) against boys! The worst prep possible for Saturday IMO! Half the Mag 7 would walk back into this team and replace those mentioned!
Massive overreaction. We defended well against a strong team, their 2 goals were 2 dodgy decisions and things could have gone a completely different way on a different night. Yes pringle and osbourne were poor but we already knew that
So you would have started with this team?
Taking Marriot off after 20 mins or so and giving Pringle a rest is great use of subs?
Ollys kicking was poor!
You agreed with the rest, so please let me know where my massive overreaction is?
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Wrong team, waste of subs, Pringle (thanks but time up), Elliott miles off the pace in many a game but was lost wandering today, Ollys kicking was poor and to sum
The night up, it was men (plus the refs) against boys! The worst prep possible for Saturday IMO! Half the Mag 7 would walk back into this team and replace those mentioned!
Massive overreaction. We defended well against a strong team, their 2 goals were 2 dodgy decisions and things could have gone a completely different way on a different night. Yes pringle and osbourne were poor but we already knew that
So you would have started with this team?
Taking Marriot off after 20 mins or so and giving Pringle a rest is great use of subs?
Ollys kicking was poor!
You agreed with the rest, so please let me know where my massive overreaction is?
The lineup was fine. Marriott sub was needed as a precaution to stop a potential second yellow and suspension. The overreaction was the 'worst possible prep for saturday'. As I said we defended solidly which has put my mind at ease for Saturday
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Wrong team, waste of subs, Pringle (thanks but time up), Elliott miles off the pace in many a game but was lost wandering today, Ollys kicking was poor and to sum
The night up, it was men (plus the refs) against boys! The worst prep possible for Saturday IMO! Half the Mag 7 would walk back into this team and replace those mentioned!
Massive overreaction. We defended well against a strong team, their 2 goals were 2 dodgy decisions and things could have gone a completely different way on a different night. Yes pringle and osbourne were poor but we already knew that
So you would have started with this team?
Taking Marriot off after 20 mins or so and giving Pringle a rest is great use of subs?
Ollys kicking was poor!
You agreed with the rest, so please let me know where my massive overreaction is?
Marriot was taken off just before HT as he’d already been booked & to keep him on would have risked a red card & suspension for Halifax which would have been an absolute disaster. Notts have lost twice in 40 league games this season & as widely expected were a top class outfit. To describe tonight as the ‘worst possible prep for Saturday’ is one of the most ludicrous statements I have ever read on this forum. Tonight’s game & the standard of opposition has utterly no relation to Saturday.
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Despite what some are saying, and the suggested influence of the Referee, they were the best team I've seen at Alty this season in terms of footballing.
Wrexham may have achieved better results but aesthetically Notts far superior.
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I really hope that Notts win in Wales on Easter Monday, and Wrexham also slip up somewhere else (and not just because I've got a fiver on Notts at 7-1 😂)
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It would be good to see both Notts and wrecsam go up, both sides are excellent and worthy of promotion. If I had to pick I would have Notts County’s back 5. And Wrecsam’s forward line. Macauley is excellent as was Notts no 11 Neman’s but I prefer Mullin and Olly Palmer
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Wrong team, waste of subs, Pringle (thanks but time up), Elliott miles off the pace in many a game but was lost wandering today, Ollys kicking was poor and to sum
The night up, it was men (plus the refs) against boys! The worst prep possible for Saturday IMO! Half the Mag 7 would walk back into this team and replace those mentioned!
Massive overreaction. We defended well against a strong team, their 2 goals were 2 dodgy decisions and things could have gone a completely different way on a different night. Yes pringle and osbourne were poor but we already knew that
So you would have started with this team?
Taking Marriot off after 20 mins or so and giving Pringle a rest is great use of subs?
Ollys kicking was poor!
You agreed with the rest, so please let me know where my massive overreaction is?
Marriot was taken off just before HT as he’d already been booked & to keep him on would have risked a red card & suspension for Halifax which would have been an absolute disaster. Notts have lost twice in 40 league games this season & as widely expected were a top class outfit. To describe tonight as the ‘worst possible prep for Saturday’ is one of the most ludicrous statements I have ever read on this forum. Tonight’s game & the standard of opposition has utterly no relation to Saturday.
It’s a game of opinions… Marriott and co shouldnt even have been put into the team! We have potentially risked a majority of our top players, injured Sinclair and put players needlessly through 90 mins. We better win on Saturday and have a fully fit team or else PP will be looking back at tonight wishing he’d made different choices!
Notts were a class outfit and the best team I’ve seen for years at ML
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Wrong team, waste of subs, Pringle (thanks but time up), Elliott miles off the pace in many a game but was lost wandering today, Ollys kicking was poor and to sum
The night up, it was men (plus the refs) against boys! The worst prep possible for Saturday IMO! Half the Mag 7 would walk back into this team and replace those mentioned!
The magnificent 7 Didn’t want full time football ..Their choice… Move on.
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Not sure how you can read too negatively into that to be honest - on a night most of us would have preferred to have called off, we got a useful workout against a strong side and I felt we really held our own.
Whilst their two goals were harsh on us, we obviously didn't take our own big chance and I suspect, as suggested, they'd have found the win anyway.
Last half hour played out like a training drill which I think suited both teams, it looks as if everyone came through fine, although Sinclair looked sore when he came off.
I thought Linney and Sinclair were bright, direct and positive - I thought Osborne was OK and we've done the Pringle thing to death, he's nowhere near as effective as a starter - and the two full backs were pretty solid. Eddy improves with every game, and it was Harry Perritt's best game by a mile since returning to us.
Josh Lundstram's performance won't have gone unnoticed from them, unfortunately - he was his absolute imperious best, what a joy he is to watch.
Play like that and we beat Halifax on Saturday.
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Wrong team, waste of subs, Pringle (thanks but time up), Elliott miles off the pace in many a game but was lost wandering today, Ollys kicking was poor and to sum
The night up, it was men (plus the refs) against boys! The worst prep possible for Saturday IMO! Half the Mag 7 would walk back into this team and replace those mentioned!
The magnificent 7 Didn’t want full time football ..Their choice… Move on.
It's also not true. Thompson aside, none of the outfield players would replace their counterparts in this team.
My friend (who hadn't been since last season) couldn't believe how much quicker and sharper we were.
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As ever a varied interpretation of the game. The back 4 were solid but Ollie needs to command his box more. Overall a spirited performance against an excellent team and no barometer for Saturday. Osbornes constant talking must irritate the other players and did receive a verbal response from Perritt at one point 😏
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Here's Phil's take on the game
https://altrinchamfc.com/blogs/news/phil-parkinson-interview-post-notts-county-match
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Not sure how you can read too negatively into that to be honest - on a night most of us would have preferred to have called off, we got a useful workout against a strong side and I felt we really held our own.
Whilst their two goals were harsh on us, we obviously didn't take our own big chance and I suspect, as suggested, they'd have found the win anyway.
Last half hour played out like a training drill which I think suited both teams, it looks as if everyone came through fine, although Sinclair looked sore when he came off.
I thought Linney and Sinclair were bright, direct and positive - I thought Osborne was OK and we've done the Pringle thing to death, he's nowhere near as effective as a starter - and the two full backs were pretty solid. Eddy improves with every game, and it was Harry Perritt's best game by a mile since returning to us.
Josh Lundstram's performance won't have gone unnoticed from them, unfortunately - he was his absolute imperious best, what a joy he is to watch.
Play like that and we beat Halifax on Saturday.
Well, I profoundly hope that your confidence is well-founded, however I confess that I don't quite share your degree of faith.
In our last two matches, we have mustered a total of merely two shots on target - both of which have been from the penalty spot.
Plus our chief attacking threat is cup-tied.
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Not sure how you can read too negatively into that to be honest - on a night most of us would have preferred to have called off, we got a useful workout against a strong side and I felt we really held our own.
Whilst their two goals were harsh on us, we obviously didn't take our own big chance and I suspect, as suggested, they'd have found the win anyway.
Last half hour played out like a training drill which I think suited both teams, it looks as if everyone came through fine, although Sinclair looked sore when he came off.
I thought Linney and Sinclair were bright, direct and positive - I thought Osborne was OK and we've done the Pringle thing to death, he's nowhere near as effective as a starter - and the two full backs were pretty solid. Eddy improves with every game, and it was Harry Perritt's best game by a mile since returning to us.
Josh Lundstram's performance won't have gone unnoticed from them, unfortunately - he was his absolute imperious best, what a joy he is to watch.
Play like that and we beat Halifax on Saturday.
Well, I profoundly hope that your confidence is well-founded, however I confess that I don't quite share your degree of faith.
In our last two matches, we have mustered a total of merely two shots on target - both of which have been from the penalty spot.
Plus our chief attacking threat is cup-tied.
At the start of the season - and again in January - many on this forum asked 'where are the goals coming from?'
We're the joint 6th highest scorers in the league.
I have faith.
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The players who've scored a good percentage of them have gone but I know what you mean.
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Not sure how you can read too negatively into that to be honest - on a night most of us would have preferred to have called off, we got a useful workout against a strong side and I felt we really held our own.
Whilst their two goals were harsh on us, we obviously didn't take our own big chance and I suspect, as suggested, they'd have found the win anyway.
Last half hour played out like a training drill which I think suited both teams, it looks as if everyone came through fine, although Sinclair looked sore when he came off.
I thought Linney and Sinclair were bright, direct and positive - I thought Osborne was OK and we've done the Pringle thing to death, he's nowhere near as effective as a starter - and the two full backs were pretty solid. Eddy improves with every game, and it was Harry Perritt's best game by a mile since returning to us.
Josh Lundstram's performance won't have gone unnoticed from them, unfortunately - he was his absolute imperious best, what a joy he is to watch.
Play like that and we beat Halifax on Saturday.
Well, I profoundly hope that your confidence is well-founded, however I confess that I don't quite share your degree of faith.
In our last two matches, we have mustered a total of merely two shots on target - both of which have been from the penalty spot.
Plus our chief attacking threat is cup-tied.
At the start of the season - and again in January - many on this forum asked 'where are the goals coming from?'
We're the joint 6th highest scorers in the league.
I have faith.
Of the 59 league goals that Alty have scored this season, 36 have come from players who will not be members of the squad for the Halifax game.
Nonetheless, I still admire your faith!
It's certainly a day for Lewis Baines to emulate the great Mal Bailey at Canal Street in April 1978...
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We've averaged 2 goals a game in Fa Trophy.
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My only worry is if Marriot is ok
Subbed because he was on a yellow. He is fine.
Don't think a player substituted so early in a game ever received such an ovation. His name put immediately on Saturday's team sheet no doubt.