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Title: sinnout
Post by: robininstockport on March 09, 2016, 04:03:18 PM
He's gone
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Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on March 09, 2016, 04:09:29 PM

He's gone



Source?

Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: robininstockport on March 09, 2016, 04:10:40 PM

He's gone



Source?



Several.  But on Web site
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Post by: bighairedmike on March 09, 2016, 04:12:09 PM
This forum is going to be fun for the next couple of days. "Should have gone ages ago", "Too little too late" Tec.
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: VofD on March 09, 2016, 04:13:08 PM
He's gone

Hope he takes his son with him ;)
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Post by: ToffeeBlue on March 09, 2016, 04:15:09 PM
Have they got enough players left to play at right back?
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on March 09, 2016, 04:16:44 PM
Seriously hope not

The guy has never been anything other than wholly professional. He came in with the target of getting us promoted which he did. He brought Duncan Watmore through and helped him develop into the player who was bought by a Premier League Club.
Another League scalp (Barnsley) and seconds from defeating Colchester on their own patch.
He deserves our thanks and appreciation not slagging off and belittling as I anticipate some will take the opportunity to do
 
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: VofD on March 09, 2016, 04:19:27 PM
Seriously hope not

The guy has never been anything other than wholly professional. He came in with the target of getting us promoted which he did. He brought Duncan Watmore through and helped him develop into the player who was bought by a Premier League Club.
Another League scalp (Barnsley) and seconds from defeating Colchester on their own patch.
He deserves our thanks and appreciation not slagging off and belittling as I anticipate some will take the opportunity to do
 

Surely everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on March 09, 2016, 04:24:00 PM
Seriously hope not

The guy has never been anything other than wholly professional. He came in with the target of getting us promoted which he did. He brought Duncan Watmore through and helped him develop into the player who was bought by a Premier League Club.
Another League scalp (Barnsley) and seconds from defeating Colchester on their own patch.
He deserves our thanks and appreciation not slagging off and belittling as I anticipate some will take the opportunity to do
 

Surely everyone is entitled to their opinion.



Indeed they are Jock - I just fear that Lee's achievements (and there were a significant number of them don't forget) will be overlooked in an avalanche of criticism, personal abuse etc.
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on March 09, 2016, 04:30:28 PM


So, did he walk or was he pushed......or was the parting of ways 'by mutual consent'?

That statement on the official website isn't really explicit on that score.


Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: roytonmike on March 09, 2016, 04:39:52 PM

So, did he walk or was he pushed......or was the parting of ways 'by mutual consent'?

That statement on the official website isn't really explicit on that score.
It's the absolute reverse of explicit, Cult. Opaque is the word I've just used to describe it to a mutual acquaintance of ours in Timperley. My reading of it is that he did not resign (no mention of consent, mutual or otherwise), but that's just the way it looks to me - I have no way of knowing the truth. Still, in a world where the word 'problem' is effectively banned (something I have an issue with ...) and nobody is honest enough to acknowledge something as second-hand (pre-owned/pre-loved etc.!) one can hardly expect a press release to be explicit or use words of one syllable ... 
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: Leon on March 09, 2016, 04:50:09 PM
I think it's clear enough - 'parted company with' is a tactful way of saying 'sacked'. If LS had offered to resign or it was mutual, that would I'm sure have been mentioned.
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: wayno on March 09, 2016, 04:52:05 PM
I just want to take this opportunity to thank Lee for the last few years


Watching alty get promoted in that run of games was incredible and it will live in my memory for ever

Good luck for the future

Time for a new chapter now
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: oneedham on March 09, 2016, 04:55:43 PM
Thanks for some good memories but he never sat right with me. Good luck and very professional but I now want see some passion. Tols until the end of the season then reasses.
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 09, 2016, 04:56:55 PM
I just want to take this opportunity to thank Lee for the last few years


Watching alty get promoted in that run of games was incredible and it will live in my memory for ever

Good luck for the future

Time for a new chapter now

First sensible post, thanks Wayno.

Lee's been responsible for some great memories and has improved us season upon season until this one.

He hasn't been perfect, however he hasn't been blessed with much luck this season either.

Right decision, right time. Good luck Lee. Time to save our season.
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: Alty Dave on March 09, 2016, 05:02:55 PM
Thanks Lee for your efforts, we gained a promotion and you steadied the ship.

Interested to see who we get in as a replacement or stick with Tols for rest of season.

Interested to see how the players respond to this change.

Come on you Robins.
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: taxi Phil on March 09, 2016, 05:08:13 PM
Granted he had no luck, but he made some awful errors too. There are certainly worse managers out there, and he did give us some good times, but as my post last night intimated.....it was time for him to go.
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Post by: jimmyhank on March 09, 2016, 05:14:20 PM
Thanks for some great memories, Lee. The Guiseley play off win springs to mind.

Good luck for the future.
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: scott tompson on March 09, 2016, 05:54:31 PM
Even though we have been on a terrible run of form the last couple of months I am gutted, thought Lee was a top bloke and thought he had done a brilliant job.

I can understand the sacking but can't see this being a positive move, as generally when clubs sack their managers towards the end of the season it backfires.
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: wayno on March 09, 2016, 06:39:19 PM
Even though we have been on a terrible run of form the last couple of months I am gutted, thought Lee was a top bloke and thought he had done a brilliant job.

I can understand the sacking but can't see this being a positive move, as generally when clubs sack their managers towards the end of the season it backfires.

we are on track to go down anyway so have to take a risk
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: Randy Konk on March 09, 2016, 06:46:33 PM
I too wish him all the best.

Watched some great performances under his stewardship and always liked the way he wanted the team to play football. The 2 demolitions of Boston and the 4-3 away at Halifax stand out for me.

I hope he returns to management soon and Alty can get themselves out of the relegation zone

Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: arnald on March 09, 2016, 06:50:40 PM
I would go for gazza  he had a stint at Kettering
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: Jimmy on March 09, 2016, 06:59:43 PM
Good luck to the bloke,l think the good football bizarrely stopped after a good second half in the 2-1 defeat at Macc,which I don't understand we had a decent record when the ball was on the floor,the going direct in that game seemed to change his mindset
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: distancetraveller on March 09, 2016, 07:51:46 PM
I'm sure most of you know I haven't been a fan of LS even to the point of when we won the Guisely game which got us promoted I stood on the pitch with hundreds of other folk but even then I had doubts about him.

Its not for me to slag him off now that he has gone..

Am I pleased he has gone... Yes I am, with the caviat   that I do believe he was an honourable man.

I just couldn't get my head round the fact that (as far as I was led to believe) be didn't travel on the team bus, and the fact he lived so far away from the club.

I wish him well in his future endeavours.
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: Timperley The Best on March 09, 2016, 07:54:27 PM
Best of  luck Lee,Guiseley and Barnsley were the highlights.
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: Ballers on March 09, 2016, 08:46:19 PM
I think sometimes things just run their natural course don't they. I wish him well in the future but it's certainly the right decision imo.

Also, I'm not convinced the players are as bad as we think. If I was the new manager I'd definitely keep Deasy, Havern, Leather, Moult, Richman, Reeves and Rankine without hesitation, happy to keep Griffin too, even Sinnott Jnr in the circumstances ( and obviously Clee and Densmore).

I think that's what's been troubling me, we just need to find that spark. Put it this way I think this team is comfortably ahead of the 97,01 and 11 teams that got relegated (and the others that survived on technicalities).
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: Timperley The Best on March 09, 2016, 09:23:26 PM
I think sometimes things just run their natural course don't they. I wish him well in the future but it's certainly the right decision imo.

Also, I'm not convinced the players are as bad as we think. If I was the new manager I'd definitely keep Deasy, Havern, Leather, Moult, Richman, Reeves and Rankine without hesitation, happy to keep Griffin too, even Sinnott Jnr in the circumstances ( and obviously Clee and Densmore).

I think that's what's been troubling me, we just need to find that spark. Put it this way I think this team is comfortably ahead of the 97,01 and 11 teams that got relegated (and the others that survived on technicalities).

agreed
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: PukkaPieman on March 09, 2016, 09:33:18 PM
I think sometimes things just run their natural course don't they. I wish him well in the future but it's certainly the right decision imo.

Also, I'm not convinced the players are as bad as we think. If I was the new manager I'd definitely keep Deasy, Havern, Leather, Moult, Richman, Reeves and Rankine without hesitation, happy to keep Griffin too, even Sinnott Jnr in the circumstances ( and obviously Clee and Densmore).

I think that's what's been troubling me, we just need to find that spark. Put it this way I think this team is comfortably ahead of the 97,01 and 11 teams that got relegated (and the others that survived on technicalities).

Very well put Ballers, I think losing Clee has probably been the biggest problem, he was often the spark.
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: Sarf London Alty on March 09, 2016, 09:42:57 PM
I think this was the right choice, the sense of deflation I (and I know many others) felt after last night was such that this feels like the only choice. It's a shame, as especially in our last two Conference North seasons we played some excellent football under LS and were a joy to watch. I think the thing is though if you look at our league record for the last calendar year (once we were safe last season we basically binned off the last 10 games) it is truly dreadful.

Ballers has it right though, this set of players (terrible bad luck with injuries aside) should be doing much better. I just hope we get the manager to enable the lads to play to their potential.
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: wayno on March 09, 2016, 10:31:44 PM
Seriously hope not

The guy has never been anything other than wholly professional. He came in with the target of getting us promoted which he did. He brought Duncan Watmore through and helped him develop into the player who was bought by a Premier League Club.
Another League scalp (Barnsley) and seconds from defeating Colchester on their own patch.
He deserves our thanks and appreciation not slagging off and belittling as I anticipate some will take the opportunity to do
 

Surely everyone is entitled to their opinion.



Indeed they are Jock - I just fear that Lee's achievements (and there were a significant number of them don't forget) will be overlooked in an avalanche of criticism, personal abuse etc.
I think the alty fans have been amazing to this point strong attendances in general given the poor results and the crowd still getting behind the team despite it .the singing for 90 mins against macc was fab.  Most fans elsewhere would have got on the players and managers back
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: Ballers on March 09, 2016, 11:15:28 PM
I think sometimes things just run their natural course don't they. I wish him well in the future but it's certainly the right decision imo.

Also, I'm not convinced the players are as bad as we think. If I was the new manager I'd definitely keep Deasy, Havern, Leather, Moult, Richman, Reeves and Rankine without hesitation, happy to keep Griffin too, even Sinnott Jnr in the circumstances ( and obviously Clee and Densmore).

I think that's what's been troubling me, we just need to find that spark. Put it this way I think this team is comfortably ahead of the 97,01 and 11 teams that got relegated (and the others that survived on technicalities).

Very well put Ballers, I think losing Clee has probably been the biggest problem, he was often the spark.

I spent most of the early part of the season on here arguing with people who couldn't see what Nicky Clee brings or wouldn't have him as first name on the team sheet or thought he was out most creative player.

Well I hope they've enjoyed the last six months...
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: Jimmy on March 10, 2016, 07:50:14 AM
Seriously hope not

The guy has never been anything other than wholly professional. He came in with the target of getting us promoted which he did. He brought Duncan Watmore through and helped him develop into the player who was bought by a Premier League Club.
Another League scalp (Barnsley) and seconds from defeating Colchester on their own patch.
He deserves our thanks and appreciation not slagging off and belittling as I anticipate some will take the opportunity to do
 

Surely everyone is entitled to their opinion.



Indeed they are Jock - I just fear that Lee's achievements (and there were a significant number of them don't forget) will be overlooked in an avalanche of criticism, personal abuse etc.
I think the alty fans have been amazing to this point strong attendances in general given the poor results and the crowd still getting behind the team despite it .the singing for 90 mins against macc was fab.  Most fans elsewhere would have got on the players and managers back
well said Wayne
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: andrewflynn on March 10, 2016, 08:55:41 AM
I think sometimes things just run their natural course don't they. I wish him well in the future but it's certainly the right decision imo.

Also, I'm not convinced the players are as bad as we think. If I was the new manager I'd definitely keep Deasy, Havern, Leather, Moult, Richman, Reeves and Rankine without hesitation, happy to keep Griffin too, even Sinnott Jnr in the circumstances ( and obviously Clee and Densmore).

I think that's what's been troubling me, we just need to find that spark. Put it this way I think this team is comfortably ahead of the 97,01 and 11 teams that got relegated (and the others that survived on technicalities).

Very well put Ballers, I think losing Clee has probably been the biggest problem, he was often the spark.

I spent most of the early part of the season on here arguing with people who couldn't see what Nicky Clee brings or wouldn't have him as first name on the team sheet or thought he was out most creative player.

Well I hope they've enjoyed the last six months...

I don't think his ability was ever doubted. His fitness was extremely questionable though.
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: Jimmy on March 10, 2016, 08:57:55 AM
Well we've certainly looked poor going forward without him
Title: Re: sinnout
Post by: Ballers on March 10, 2016, 09:33:33 AM
I think sometimes things just run their natural course don't they. I wish him well in the future but it's certainly the right decision imo.

Also, I'm not convinced the players are as bad as we think. If I was the new manager I'd definitely keep Deasy, Havern, Leather, Moult, Richman, Reeves and Rankine without hesitation, happy to keep Griffin too, even Sinnott Jnr in the circumstances ( and obviously Clee and Densmore).

I think that's what's been troubling me, we just need to find that spark. Put it this way I think this team is comfortably ahead of the 97,01 and 11 teams that got relegated (and the others that survived on technicalities).

Very well put Ballers, I think losing Clee has probably been the biggest problem, he was often the spark.

I spent most of the early part of the season on here arguing with people who couldn't see what Nicky Clee brings or wouldn't have him as first name on the team sheet or thought he was out most creative player.

Well I hope they've enjoyed the last six months...

I don't think his ability was ever doubted. His fitness was extremely questionable though.

His fitness, up until getting injured this season has been superb.