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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Toff Apple on June 27, 2023, 04:22:08 PM
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Having been named in the bottom 4 according to the bookies, who do we think is actually for the drop?
Solihull look a bit of a mess and I think Rochdale may well struggle. Dorking and then Oxford for me
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I think Oxford might struggle. Plus, Maidenhead have been defying gravity for a few years now. Has their time run out?
Wealdstone another likely one?
Also, Aldershot seem to be going along with their new (ish) manager recruiting his son, and others, from his old club King's Lynn. Surely a poor choice?
You would have to back us, with our new signings, to finish above all of those (and a few others!).
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Almost a quarter of the teams in the League mentioned in just two posts. And I'll add Southend. So that's a third of the clubs.
There's a lack of quality in the lower reaches of this league. If our recruitment is as good as it looks, we should be competing for a playoff spot, but I still think we need a more experienced goalkeeper.
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York and Solihull could struggle maybe even Halifax. At least one of Dorking Maidenhead or Wealdstone.
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There are obviously so many factors to consider (some as yet unknown) but touch wood looking at that lot I'd put us safely in mid table to be absolutely honest.
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Dorking, Oxford and Maidstone for me. Plus one.
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Dorking, Oxford and Maidstone for me. Plus one.
Maidstone went last year mate! 😉
Think you must mean Maidenhead?
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Anyone could go up or down; with the exception of a few in each category.
It's as open at either end as its ever been.
Gun to my head:
Down: York, Dorking, Maidstone and Aldershot
Relegation battle: Halifax, Oxford, Solihull
Playoffs: Boreham Wood, Barnet, Gateshead, Chesterfield and 2 others
Up: Woking
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Dorking, Oxford and Maidstone for me. Plus one.
Maidstone went last year mate! 😉
Think you must mean Maidenhead?
Looks yeah. Long day. Ta.
Time for bed zzzzzz
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It wouldn't surprise me to see either Rochdale or Hartlepool in the relegation mix.
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It wouldn't surprise me to see either Rochdale or Hartlepool in the relegation mix.
Hartlepool won’t be, Askey really knows the division & what it takes. Rochdale on the other hand…
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Rochdale will be fine (unfortunately) and will probably finish midtable much as Oldham did last year getting better as the season progresses and they get their act together.
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It wouldn't surprise me to see either Rochdale or Hartlepool in the relegation mix.
Hartlepool won’t be, Askey really knows the division & what it takes. Rochdale on the other hand…
Met a couple of Hartlepool fans in work the other day; they were not confident with their manager having, apparently, brought quite a few players down with him from Scotland.
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It wouldn't surprise me to see either Rochdale or Hartlepool in the relegation mix.
Hartlepool won’t be, Askey really knows the division & what it takes. Rochdale on the other hand…
Met a couple of Hartlepool fans in work the other day; they were not confident with their manager having, apparently, brought quite a few players down with him from Scotland.
Wasn't his last job at York?
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It wouldn't surprise me to see either Rochdale or Hartlepool in the relegation mix.
Hartlepool won’t be, Askey really knows the division & what it takes. Rochdale on the other hand…
Met a couple of Hartlepool fans in work the other day; they were not confident with their manager having, apparently, brought quite a few players down with him from Scotland.
Wasn't his last job at York?
That's what I thought. Maybe he just has contacts or links.
Either way, I was surprised about their pessimism.
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It wouldn't surprise me to see either Rochdale or Hartlepool in the relegation mix.
Hartlepool won’t be, Askey really knows the division & what it takes. Rochdale on the other hand…
Met a couple of Hartlepool fans in work the other day; they were not confident with their manager having, apparently, brought quite a few players down with him from Scotland.
Wasn't his last job at York?
That's what I thought. Maybe he just has contacts or links.
Either way, I was surprised about their pessimism.
I think crossed wires. Hartlepool last summer appointed Paul Hartley who came down from Cove Rangers & was of course a well known name North of the border. I know he bought loads of Scottish players down with him but didn’t last long before getting sacked in the autumn with Pools near the bottom of L2. Sure it wasn’t a reference to him?!
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That's probably it 👍
As has been said elsewhere though, Askey knows this league and should do a decent job for them. Was surprised when he left York after bringing them up actually.
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Its always hard to predict who will do what at this time of year.
My candidates most likely to be down there would be;
Oxford, Kiddy, Maidenhead, Rochdale
Not sure about Fylde, Ebbsfleet, Aldershot, Dagenham or Southend.
If we dont gel quickly I could see us flirting as well, but expect Wealdstone, Dorking and Hartlepool to do better than some think.
We will know more in a few weeks !
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Its always hard to predict who will do what at this time of year.
My candidates most likely to be down there would be;
Oxford, Kiddy, Maidenhead, Rochdale
Not sure about Fylde or Ebbsfleet or Southend.
If we dont gel quickly I could see us flirting as well, but expect Wealdstone, Dorking and Hartlepool to do better than some think.
We will know more in a few weeks !
Think Dorking will get found out; and it'll test the managers experience (or lack of it) to get them out of that rut. Whilst they may surprise the new comers, I would expect most club to understand how to beat them (us really included). That away game was a shambles.
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I suppose people always start with the part-time teams by default - Dorking, Maidenhead, Wealdstone - but I'm sure they'll have the capacity to surprise like usual.
Rochdale will be OK - they just got rid of Jim Bentley far too late, their end-of-season form was OK, manager knows the team well, and most of them have stayed (Toby wasn't playing for most of that period either). Harvey Gilmour from Halifax is a tidy signing too.
Solihull seem to be in a mess, but apart from that most of the contenders still seem to be southern - the above plus maybe Aldershot - possibly Dagenham to slip back?
Ebbsfleet should probably do well, and Fylde will probably be OK - not sure about Kidderminster and Oxford.
Halifax still have plenty of quality in their ranks, so I'm surprised to see them included in so many people's suggestions.
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Its always hard to predict who will do what at this time of year.
My candidates most likely to be down there would be;
Oxford, Kiddy, Maidenhead, Rochdale
Not sure about Fylde or Ebbsfleet or Southend.
If we dont gel quickly I could see us flirting as well, but expect Wealdstone, Dorking and Hartlepool to do better than some think.
We will know more in a few weeks !
Think Dorking will get found out; and it'll test the managers experience (or lack of it) to get them out of that rut. Whilst they may surprise the new comers, I would expect most club to understand how to beat them (us really included). That away game was a shambles.
You may be right about Dorking,.. but its wishful thinking as I really like him ! And they did improve a lot backend of last season.
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I suppose people always start with the part-time teams by default - Dorking, Maidenhead, Wealdstone - but I'm sure they'll have the capacity to surprise like usual.
Rochdale will be OK - they just got rid of Jim Bentley far too late, their end-of-season form was OK, manager knows the team well, and most of them have stayed (Toby wasn't playing for most of that period either). Harvey Gilmour from Halifax is a tidy signing too.
Solihull seem to be in a mess, but apart from that most of the contenders still seem to be southern - the above plus maybe Aldershot - possibly Dagenham to slip back?
Ebbsfleet should probably do well, and Fylde will probably be OK - not sure about Kidderminster and Oxford.
Halifax still have plenty of quality in their ranks, so I'm surprised to see them included in so many people's suggestions.
Untill the last week of March they were going down. They beat Aldershot on a heavy pitch, then a pop shot on Saturday saw them in the final. Suddenly every player showed up.
Losing to us would have relegated them