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Title: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: Timperley The Best on November 26, 2007, 10:11:57 PM
but everyone knows a left back ia priority would have won without the mistakes
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: Alty Dave on November 26, 2007, 10:19:50 PM
Touche
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: Bath Alty on November 26, 2007, 10:25:47 PM
Scotty just looked to be lacking pace to deal with him.  Both goals came from him trying to cut out the pass before it reached the winger as he knew he couldn't catch him if he got the ball.  Warren was getting bak well to help and at one point even Lane got to Dobson ahead of Scott despite coming from the other side of the pitch.  If the other guy is miles faster than you there's not much you can do.

At least he got a better review than Oliver - that bloke really is rubbish at playing against our two forwards.
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: Alty Dave on November 26, 2007, 10:30:09 PM
Colin and Chris did well tonight.
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: Dougals Dad on November 26, 2007, 10:36:06 PM
Scotty made 1 & a half mistakes and was punished for both. He is not a bad player, but was troubled on the wrong foot and injuries have taken their toll on his pace
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: Timperley The Best on November 26, 2007, 10:38:27 PM
a left back on loan has to be a priority
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: louise1925 on November 26, 2007, 10:39:13 PM
How good were our two centre halves? Were they the pair who couldn't play together earlier in the season? Also, because it was on tv we got to see a bit more of what Sedge is all about tonight. How composed was he on the ball? Very proud of all the lads after that.
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: Hamilton on November 26, 2007, 10:41:43 PM
a left back on loan has to be a priority

Agreed. Do we have a good reserve?

Also agree centre halves were very good, Sedge was class on occasion. This was a quality all round performance. I thought O'Neill - totally out of position - did quite well.
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on November 26, 2007, 11:11:17 PM
a left back on loan has to be a priority

Never a truer word written.

Scotty has been a great servant for Alty but his two calamitous errors cost us dearly at Stevenage tonight.

I dread to think how many points we have dropped because of our lack of a proper left full back this season.

Mind you, I have to say that Coburn didn't really cover himself in glory on the second goal.

We certainly deserved a draw from that game and it was encouraging to see us pass the ball well and actually look composed on the ball.

Little and Senior worked their socks off but O'Neill was a total passenger.



Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: Hamilton on November 26, 2007, 11:15:49 PM
a left back on loan has to be a priority

Little and Senior worked their socks off but O'Neill was a total passenger.

Our best wingers are injured/part match players. Can we play both Sedge & Whalley in the same team?
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on November 27, 2007, 12:10:49 AM
a left back on loan has to be a priority

Never a truer word written.

Scotty has been a great servant for Alty but his two calamitous errors cost us dearly at Stevenage tonight.

I dread to think how many points we have dropped because of our lack of a proper left full back this season.

Mind you, I have to say that Coburn didn't really cover himself in glory on the second goal.

We certainly deserved a draw from that game and it was encouraging to see us pass the ball well and actually look composed on the ball.

Little and Senior worked their socks off but O'Neill was a total passenger.





Maybe this is controversial but I cannot see what more, in the circumstances Scotty could have done. On the first goal he tried to put the ball out for a corner but didn't quite get enough on it. Had he not tried that he'd have never got anywhere near the guy before he crossed.  We were very unlucky with the bounce of Tinson which 99.99% of the time would NOT have gione straight back to the Stevenage guy.

Second goal, okay Scotty got a bit caught again but ditto the first goal in terms of his effort. He did however get back in heroically and, to be fair both to him and to Stuart, it seemed both to me and also the people I watched with in the pub that he actually got a touch on the shot which seemed to accelerate the ball under Stuart's dive.

Have to say that if there were an irritating summariser of the millenium award Paul Parker would have won it already 7 years into the thousand in question.....and weren't the commentators bloody patronising????????????????????
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on November 27, 2007, 12:15:44 AM
a left back on loan has to be a priority

Little and Senior worked their socks off but O'Neill was a total passenger.

Our best wingers are injured/part match players. Can we play both Sedge & Whalley in the same team?

Again controversy perhaps but I thought that on a number of occasions tonight we saw the quality that Sedge possesses.

Also, I must say that it is somewhat disingenuous to be so critical of Joe when he has played so patently out of position to help the club out
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: Cadiz Alty on November 27, 2007, 07:48:19 AM
The guy was poor last week atFarsley and worse tonight.
How long are we going to play without a left fullback?
If GH were to leave tomorrow for pastures new as a television pundit the new guy taking over would put a full back in straight away.

All goals were massive errors from the left back postion and ours cost us the game.

Joe Oneil was poor again loads of effort but the touch is very poor at this level.
Does he score enough goals as a forward?

All in all a massive effort and some great football played, again away from Moss Lane and away from our fans I wonder how we can read into that?   
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: Jenga on November 27, 2007, 08:58:31 AM
I have defended Joe continuously on here since he joined us and ultimately he got player of the season last year for some real good performances.

Last night and the last few games I really dont think I can continue to defend him at present. He was played out of position on the right but some poor passing, some backing off in tackles and poor control let us down. He really was a passenger last night.

Gary Scott cost us the game with some awful defending with the second also down to poor goalkeeping from Stu who didnt get down fast enough.

However on the plus side the team as a whole were really good. Possibly some of the best football I have seen this season from them. Tinson and Munroe were class and OMG Chris and Colin were outstanding and previously I have complained about Colins performances.

Overall I was encouraged by the performance and if we can carry that type of play forward we will survive if we get some results fast enough.

I am torn with GH comments on TV, was he just trying to be funny with his attitude towards the game or is that how he apporaches our matches. If it is how he approaches them then I am sure motivation will be problem for the players. If he was being funny then he was genuinly funny 10 men across the back was kind of hilarious to be honest.

Well played lads keep it up and a special message for Joe and Gary -

Joe - head up man you are a class act on form and you know you can do it, have the confidence because you do have the skill.
Gary - head up you have covered well for us at right back and we know your playing out of position to help the club out as Warren did last year.

Well played.
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: hsmith1 on November 27, 2007, 09:45:54 AM
2  mistakes cost us,that said every player can have an off game it happens to everyone.We were the better team and should not have lost,but again thats football,lets take the positives from this game and build on them and hammer Histon this Saturday and in thr process move above Farsley
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: seasonticket on November 27, 2007, 09:49:23 AM
Quote from previous post......
Joe - head up man you are a class act on form and you know you can do it, have the confidence because you do have the skill.
Gary - head up you have covered well for us at right back and we know your playing out of position to help the club out as Warren did last year.

Why do people come on here and slag off our own players. It does nothing for their confidence apart from making it more difficult to regain.
I am not saying you are not entitled to an opinion. Just dont shout it from the roof tops it does not help our situation.
The above post is more possitive and is more likely to help.
Joe was not player of the year for nothing and he does not become a bad player overnight. Likewise Scotty, who has had some outstanding performances this season.
I do think that some people decide they dont like a player and do not give up on criticising until that player is hounded out. Don'say that does not happen. It does.
Please lets have more positive comments in public and keep the negative private.
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: markecky on November 27, 2007, 09:57:00 AM
Seasonticket..you'll have le bignose after you now....

Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: le bignose on November 27, 2007, 10:08:50 AM
HA ecky thats naughty!!! no its a valid point mate!! i dont just have a go for the sake of it !! its called passion and ok sometimes not needed but i see the forum as a place to vent your fustration and voice your opinion!!

We can all slag off players and yes its not right too!!! but when you feel passionate about something then sometimes its hard not too!!!

As for ecky ........... your in my range for a good slagging off now!! only joking mate. Ive told you its nothing personal so dont take it that way bud!!
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: teasybeaver on November 27, 2007, 10:21:22 AM
Dont slag ecky off, he wasnt even in the starting line-up  ;)
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: le bignose on November 27, 2007, 10:24:06 AM
he was the worst f'ing player by far and doesnt deserve his place!! why ecky starts with joe is beyond me!!! ecky cant even sing a full alty song without being out of breath half way thru!! lol
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: radcliffe alty on November 27, 2007, 12:08:06 PM
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Dont slag ecky off, he wasnt even in the starting line-up

I'd have put him in instead of O'Neill.  ;)
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: Jenga on November 27, 2007, 12:18:56 PM
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Dont slag ecky off, he wasnt even in the starting line-up

I'd have put him in instead of O'Neill.  ;)

no chance he has commitment or motivation :-)
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: markecky on November 27, 2007, 12:19:58 PM
Its great the internet isn't it......gives people the chance to call you fat who you have no idea who they are!!

We just never had such facilities 10 yrs ago.

For future reference, I am an impact player (I'll bowl 'em you bat them away...)

Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: Jenga on November 27, 2007, 12:34:26 PM
Its great the internet isn't it......gives people the chance to call you fat who you have no idea who they are!!

We just never had such facilities 10 yrs ago.

For future reference, I am an impact player (I'll bowl 'em you bat them away...)



Perhaps we should start the Ecky appreciation thread?  not sure anyone would voice their support though.

The war has begun !!!    ;D
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: Alex on November 27, 2007, 01:25:50 PM
my thoughts on last night were that the team seemed to be playing like they had won 9 of there last games and had all the confidence in the world and just like last season with the bared boned team we had around the end of september start of october time the team that started last night (wether you say logan should start or o'niell) was basically what we have available to start and i for one think that they did us proud. only two errors that cost us, i think scotty has done amazing since he has come back and playing out of position too, but in truth dobson is probably one of the best players in this league and looked dangerous all night (his movement off the ball caused scotty some problems staying in the defensive line). all in all i say we gave a good acount of our selves last night and any neutral watching last night that was expecting a cricket score was i hope plesently surprised. the only thing that annoyed me last night was there second goal (and not scottys attempted clearence or stuarts possitioning) it was that there number 14 had so much time and space to pick out that pass to dobson with 3 alty players around him and none of them attempted to close him down. anyway histon on saturday and the start of what i hope is a good christmas period for the mighty robins.


p.s. thanks to the haytons driver for getting us home a lot quicker than any of us expected  :)
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: Hugh on November 27, 2007, 01:58:56 PM
As for the left back thing, we didn't learn anything we didn't know after we played Tamworth in the cup - if we come up against a fast winger we will struggle.

Yes the goals came from mistakes (including our goal). At the end of the day though there's probably people all over the pitch that make mistakes, but people only remember them if they cost a goal.

Certainly I would hope we can strengthen our squad now there's no debts and a bit of cup money. If we can't outbid other Conference clubs, perhaps we can at least outbid Mossley or Stalybridge now.
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: markecky on November 27, 2007, 03:01:21 PM
Its great the internet isn't it......gives people the chance to call you fat who you have no idea who they are!!

We just never had such facilities 10 yrs ago.

For future reference, I am an impact player (I'll bowl 'em you bat them away...)



Perhaps we should start the Ecky appreciation thread?  not sure anyone would voice their support though.

The war has begun !!!    ;D

I don't mind when you do it Jenga, I at least know who you are!

There a few ladies on here that would post on it I'm sure..
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: le bignose on November 27, 2007, 03:20:10 PM
can i re iterate that i have no issues with anyone on here, being the pot smoking hippy i am i love everyone!!

i want to start the love ecky association!!!
Title: Re: i feel sorry for gary scott
Post by: Dougals Dad on November 27, 2007, 08:53:54 PM
I am torn with GH comments on TV, was he just trying to be funny with his attitude towards the game or is that how he apporaches our matches. If it is how he approaches them then I am sure motivation will be problem for the players. If he was being funny then he was genuinly funny 10 men across the back was kind of hilarious to be honest.

Well played lads keep it up and a special message for Joe and Gary -

Joe - head up man you are a class act on form and you know you can do it, have the confidence because you do have the skill.
Gary - head up you have covered well for us at right back and we know your playing out of position to help the club out as Warren did last year.

Well played.

I think GH's attitude might take some of the pressure off. So many of the players do seem to like playing for him so I suspect he is more motivational than not. I daresay he was playing up to the cameras a little.

Nice comments for Joe & Gary - I hope they both read them.