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Title: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: Frosty on October 10, 2016, 01:03:54 PM
I see it will be normal prices, shame that
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 10, 2016, 01:09:59 PM

I see it will be normal prices, shame that



Not quite true, as it will be £1.00 cheaper to sit in the main stand than it is for league fixtures.

Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: SW on October 10, 2016, 05:57:24 PM
Looking at the gate from the last round I doubt we gained many additional floaters at all and probably lost revenue. Never been convinced that reducing prices adds many to the gate.
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 10, 2016, 06:26:20 PM
I've no issue in paying full price for the fourth qualifying round of the FA Cup. Hopefully we have a big turn out on saturday as Matlock I'm sure will travel in better numbers than we've seen so far. The manager mentioned how valuable Saturdays vocal
Backing was to the team. Let's see more of the same on Saturdays and try and get ourselves into the first round draw.
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: Sarf London Alty on October 10, 2016, 07:00:34 PM
Ageeed that discounts in earlier rounds are fair enough but we're nearly at the main event now so full whack is fair enough for me. This is a huge game for Matlock and their recent history so assume they'll manage 150-200 which should ensure we are pushing 1k.
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: robininstockport on October 10, 2016, 07:21:41 PM
Stockport v Bishops Auckland is reduced to £ 7.
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: roytonmike on October 10, 2016, 09:16:30 PM
Stockport v Bishops Auckland is reduced to £ 7.
Bishop Auckland are from the same league as Morpeth, so will have a similar pricing structure. That probably explains why they & County will have come to an arrangement.
Matlock's basic price appears to be £10 - that at least is what they would charge for admission to any replay. To split the difference & make it £12 probably creates more work than it's worth.
When we played Morpeth the gate was 658, just over 25% higher than for the previous round v Gainsborough, so the gate receipts will have been comparable. The main thing is to try and get as many of our 'core' 700 or so down as possible; inevitably some will be put off by having to pay (don't season ticket holders understand that their ticket is for league games only, plus possibly some early booking rights for any all-ticket away or Cup games?) but I'm pretty sure most home fans won't quibble too much about the pricing - particularly if they're sitting in the cut-price stand!
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: wayno on October 10, 2016, 09:59:59 PM
Looking at the gate from the last round I doubt we gained many additional floaters at all and probably lost revenue. Never been convinced that reducing prices adds many to the gate.
I thought that there was quite a sizeable increase game on game?

516 vs 658 a 27.5% improvement

Any extra fans is crucial for getting behind the team as well

Personally I would do it and social media it all over again

It's a must win for the prize money and the potential of a league club and TV in the 1st round

Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: wayno on October 10, 2016, 10:18:06 PM
Stockport v Bishops Auckland is reduced to £ 7.
Bishop Auckland are from the same league as Morpeth, so will have a similar pricing structure. That probably explains why they & County will have come to an arrangement.
Matlock's basic price appears to be £10 - that at least is what they would charge for admission to any replay. To split the difference & make it £12 probably creates more work than it's worth.
When we played Morpeth the gate was 658, just over 25% higher than for the previous round v Gainsborough, so the gate receipts will have been comparable. The main thing is to try and get as many of our 'core' 700 or so down as possible; inevitably some will be put off by having to pay (don't season ticket holders understand that their ticket is for league games only, plus possibly some early booking rights for any all-ticket away or Cup games?) but I'm pretty sure most home fans won't quibble too much about the pricing - particularly if they're sitting in the cut-price stand!
sorry didn't see your post .. must pay more attention
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: bumble on October 11, 2016, 08:51:45 AM
Looking at the gate from the last round I doubt we gained many additional floaters at all and probably lost revenue. Never been convinced that reducing prices adds many to the gate.
I thought that there was quite a sizeable increase game on game?

516 vs 658 a 27.5% improvement

Any extra fans is crucial for getting behind the team as well

Personally I would do it and social media it all over again

It's a must win for the prize money and the potential of a league club and TV in the 1st round


You'd have to check the breakdown because if everyone was an adult paying in 10 v 14 - we'd have been 100 down

However this could have lead to increased bar and snack takings, not to mention that there's no guarantee at 14 we'd have got all them in

Personally I'd rather have 700 at 10, than 560 at 14
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 11, 2016, 09:15:07 AM
I think people should give their heads a wobble for what's basically the price of a premium pint of lager. Prices weren't increased against now championship Barnsley last year so it's swings and roundabouts.
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on October 11, 2016, 02:46:39 PM
I don't think any Alty fans are moaning about paying 14quid Oi Polloi,I think they're just saying that we'd be more likely to get more neutrals in for a tenner.
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: SW on October 11, 2016, 03:42:59 PM
25 neutrals/occasionals at most I'd say on the back of that, don't forget the gate is split being a cup game. A badly thought out loss leader. Also doing the oppos out of money which they could quite rightly get uppity about.
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on October 11, 2016, 05:47:50 PM
I've just noticed City are at home on Saturday at 3pm so you're probably right SW,there wouldn't be too many neutrals tempted.
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: Sarf London Alty on October 11, 2016, 10:26:52 PM
I see they drew 0-0 at home tonight with Blyth in the league-though Matlock missed a pen and hit the bar late on so perhaps should have won it. One defeat in eleven since late August so they are clearly no mugs. I note their home gates hover around 300 in the league but they pull a few more in the cup. I'd guesstimate then maybe 100-150 max away fans on Saturday for their big day out.
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 12, 2016, 01:13:19 PM
Altrincham 10/11
Draw 13/5
Matlock 11/5

Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 12, 2016, 03:34:32 PM
If a replay is required it will on the Wednesday rather than the Tuesday
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: Baldrick on October 12, 2016, 05:14:14 PM
I see they drew 0-0 at home tonight with Blyth in the league-though Matlock missed a pen and hit the bar late on so perhaps should have won it. One defeat in eleven since late August so they are clearly no mugs. I note their home gates hover around 300 in the league but they pull a few more in the cup. I'd guesstimate then maybe 100-150 max away fans on Saturday for their big day out.

It seems unlikely that they would take 50% of their home attendance to an away game.
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on October 12, 2016, 10:55:40 PM
Altrincham 10/11
Draw 13/5
Matlock 11/5

No thank you, for any of the above.....anyway NEVER bet on Alty (or against).
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: Sarf London Alty on October 13, 2016, 08:08:47 AM
I see they drew 0-0 at home tonight with Blyth in the league-though Matlock missed a pen and hit the bar late on so perhaps should have won it. One defeat in eleven since late August so they are clearly no mugs. I note their home gates hover around 300 in the league but they pull a few more in the cup. I'd guesstimate then maybe 100-150 max away fans on Saturday for their big day out.

It seems unlikely that they would take 50% of their home attendance to an away game.

We'll see. Don't underestimate how big Saturday is for them. They haven't reached the first round since the 80s. They'll bring a few I'm sure.
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 14, 2016, 09:42:45 AM
I appreciate this is distracting from important issues but we have an FA Cup tie tomorrow. Let's make sure we are in good voice as we were against Chester last season. We will need to be bang on our game as they will be full of confidence after a recent good run. Hopefully we will be at pretty much full strength, any thoughts on what team we will see?

Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: taxi Phil on October 15, 2016, 03:01:16 PM
Since Matlock are known as the Gladiators let's hope it's a case for them of "morituri te salutant"

And I'M Spartacus !
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: Sarf London Alty on October 16, 2016, 09:55:47 AM
I see they drew 0-0 at home tonight with Blyth in the league-though Matlock missed a pen and hit the bar late on so perhaps should have won it. One defeat in eleven since late August so they are clearly no mugs. I note their home gates hover around 300 in the league but they pull a few more in the cup. I'd guesstimate then maybe 100-150 max away fans on Saturday for their big day out.

It seems unlikely that they would take 50% of their home attendance to an away game.

So 119 in the away end plus whoever was sat in the stands. So ballpark 140 maybe. Seems like I was right.
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: wayno on October 16, 2016, 09:58:48 AM
I see they drew 0-0 at home tonight with Blyth in the league-though Matlock missed a pen and hit the bar late on so perhaps should have won it. One defeat in eleven since late August so they are clearly no mugs. I note their home gates hover around 300 in the league but they pull a few more in the cup. I'd guesstimate then maybe 100-150 max away fans on Saturday for their big day out.

It seems unlikely that they would take 50% of their home attendance to an away game.

So 119 in the away end plus whoever was sat in the stands. So ballpark 140 maybe. Seems like I was right.
It was a great turnout for them well done
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: robininstockport on October 16, 2016, 10:50:52 AM
Yes very good turn out from them and not too bad from us.

Game wise it was poor. Aside from last 5 min of 1st and and 1st 10 mins of 2nd we were poor. They should have been 3 up before Reeves class finish. Thank you Tim Deasey. The midfiield just can't control game. I hope Moult finds his form ASAP because if not I really fear for our league status.

What Hannagan was doing making that challenge on the half way line at 3-1 up I've no idea. His Altrincham career hasn't been quite what I'd hoped.

Hopefully the lowest ranked team at home or Bolton away in next round.

2 massive league games coming up with 4 points needed.
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: wayno on October 16, 2016, 11:16:14 AM
Yes very good turn out from them and not too bad from us.

Game wise it was poor. Aside from last 5 min of 1st and and 1st 10 mins of 2nd we were poor. They should have been 3 up before Reeves class finish. Thank you Tim Deasey. The midfiield just can't control game. I hope Moult finds his form ASAP because if not I really fear for our league status.

What Hannagan was doing making that challenge on the half way line at 3-1 up I've no idea. His Altrincham career hasn't been quite what I'd hoped.

Hopefully the lowest ranked team at home or Bolton away in next round.

2 massive league games coming up with 4 points needed.

totally agree with all this post . We have to bring new players in . Despite the amazing work by Jim we won't survive this league with this team
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: Toff Apple on October 16, 2016, 12:10:20 PM
Yes very good turn out from them and not too bad from us.

Game wise it was poor. Aside from last 5 min of 1st and and 1st 10 mins of 2nd we were poor. They should have been 3 up before Reeves class finish. Thank you Tim Deasey. The midfiield just can't control game. I hope Moult finds his form ASAP because if not I really fear for our league status.

What Hannagan was doing making that challenge on the half way line at 3-1 up I've no idea. His Altrincham career hasn't been quite what I'd hoped.

Hopefully the lowest ranked team at home or Bolton away in next round.

2 massive league games coming up with 4 points needed.

Hope not that lowest rank team is the only unbeaten team in 9 leagues of english football
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on October 16, 2016, 12:37:52 PM
Yes very good turn out from them and not too bad from us.

Game wise it was poor. Aside from last 5 min of 1st and and 1st 10 mins of 2nd we were poor. They should have been 3 up before Reeves class finish. Thank you Tim Deasey. The midfiield just can't control game. I hope Moult finds his form ASAP because if not I really fear for our league status.

What Hannagan was doing making that challenge on the half way line at 3-1 up I've no idea. His Altrincham career hasn't been quite what I'd hoped.

Hopefully the lowest ranked team at home or Bolton away in next round.

2 massive league games coming up with 4 points needed.

Hope not that lowest rank team is the only unbeaten team in 9 leagues of english football

Tottenham,Carlisle,Fylde,Leiston(who are 2 leagues above Westfields but lost to them yesterday),Hereford and Tiverton are also unbeaten in the league. Westfields do however boast the only 100% league record in the top 9 tiers of English football having won all 10 league games.
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: Timperley The Best on October 16, 2016, 12:49:46 PM
Yes very good turn out from them and not too bad from us.

Game wise it was poor. Aside from last 5 min of 1st and and 1st 10 mins of 2nd we were poor. They should have been 3 up before Reeves class finish. Thank you Tim Deasey. The midfiield just can't control game. I hope Moult finds his form ASAP because if not I really fear for our league status.

What Hannagan was doing making that challenge on the half way line at 3-1 up I've no idea. His Altrincham career hasn't been quite what I'd hoped.

Hopefully the lowest ranked team at home or Bolton away in next round.

2 massive league games coming up with 4 points needed.

totally agree with all this post . We have to bring new players in . Despite the amazing work by Jim we won't survive this league with this team


we arent that bad ,maybe carrying three players which is too many though
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: AFC56 on October 16, 2016, 12:51:24 PM
We weren't great yesterday and Wilkinson wasn't quite as influential as previous games. Whilst the middle of the park is a concern (Moult is playing far too deep) its the left centre back and left back that are the major problems for me. A good team would have murdered us down that flank yesterday. Alan Goodall has done a reasonable job filling in at the back but he certainly isnt a long term option and Doherty is quite up to it positionally wise at the moment. Jim has done a really good job so far, but we need one or two really good players. Losing Hannigan is a massive blow. He is the best defender at the club by a mile and we look so much better with him in the team. Thankfully he'll be back for the next round of the cup.
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on October 16, 2016, 12:58:17 PM
We weren't great yesterday and Wilkinson wasn't quite as influential as previous games. Whilst the middle of the park is a concern (Moult is playing far too deep) its the left centre back and left back that are the major problems for me. A good team would have murdered us down that flank yesterday. Alan Goodall has done a reasonable job filling in at the back but he certainly isnt a long term option and Doherty is quite up to it positionally wise at the moment. Jim has done a really good job so far, but we need one or two really good players. Losing Hannigan is a massive blow. He is the best defender at the club by a mile and we look so much better with him in the team. Thankfully he'll be back for the next round of the cup.


Hannigan will miss 3 massive league games though before the FA Cup 1st Round which we could really have done with him being available for.
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: brinners on October 16, 2016, 04:35:32 PM
Yes very good turn out from them and not too bad from us.

Game wise it was poor. Aside from last 5 min of 1st and and 1st 10 mins of 2nd we were poor. They should have been 3 up before Reeves class finish. Thank you Tim Deasey. The midfiield just can't control game. I hope Moult finds his form ASAP because if not I really fear for our league status.

What Hannagan was doing making that challenge on the half way line at 3-1 up I've no idea. His Altrincham career hasn't been quite what I'd hoped.

Hopefully the lowest ranked team at home or Bolton away in next round.

2 massive league games coming up with 4 points needed.


I agree with this too. Jake and to a lesser extent Simon, have been ineffective all season. It's a huge shame as Jake has consistently been my favourite Alty player.
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: roytonmike on October 16, 2016, 04:49:28 PM
Yes very good turn out from them and not too bad from us.
Game wise it was poor. Aside from last 5 min of 1st and and 1st 10 mins of 2nd we were poor. They should have been 3 up before Reeves class finish. Thank you Tim Deasey. The midfiield just can't control game. I hope Moult finds his form ASAP because if not I really fear for our league status.
What Hannagan was doing making that challenge on the half way line at 3-1 up I've no idea. His Altrincham career hasn't been quite what I'd hoped.
Hopefully the lowest ranked team at home or Bolton away in next round.
2 massive league games coming up with 4 points needed.
I agree with this too. Jake and to a lesser extent Simon, have been ineffective all season. It's a huge shame as Jake has consistently been my favourite Alty player.
The writer of the report in the NLP obviously went somewhere I didn't +/or was on some kind of jungle juice I haven't tasted. I hope we haven't exhausted our ration of Cup luck just yet - we used up another big portion yesterday. The midfield problem is that we have three players who are unlikely to make a tackle between them (Wilkinson, Lawrie & Miller) of whom Wilkinson has plenty of positive virtues but the other two, despite Miller's goals yesterday, are luxuries at Conf North level - we might be able to afford one but not both. Richman is being required to do all the chasing & challenging & desperately needs a partner in crime. Moult so far this season has been a shadow of what he has been in the past, I fear - a defensive midfielder who isn't doing a particularly good job. Maybe time will be the great healer - but then again, maybe not ...
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: Frosty on October 16, 2016, 06:59:29 PM
I've been to the last three games and we've won them all!!!! BLIMEY
Title: Re: FA Cup v Matlock
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 17, 2016, 03:04:14 PM
Yes very good turn out from them and not too bad from us.
Game wise it was poor. Aside from last 5 min of 1st and and 1st 10 mins of 2nd we were poor. They should have been 3 up before Reeves class finish. Thank you Tim Deasey. The midfiield just can't control game. I hope Moult finds his form ASAP because if not I really fear for our league status.
What Hannagan was doing making that challenge on the half way line at 3-1 up I've no idea. His Altrincham career hasn't been quite what I'd hoped.
Hopefully the lowest ranked team at home or Bolton away in next round.
2 massive league games coming up with 4 points needed.
I agree with this too. Jake and to a lesser extent Simon, have been ineffective all season. It's a huge shame as Jake has consistently been my favourite Alty player.
The writer of the report in the NLP obviously went somewhere I didn't +/or was on some kind of jungle juice I haven't tasted. I hope we haven't exhausted our ration of Cup luck just yet - we used up another big portion yesterday. The midfield problem is that we have three players who are unlikely to make a tackle between them (Wilkinson, Lawrie & Miller) of whom Wilkinson has plenty of positive virtues but the other two, despite Miller's goals yesterday, are luxuries at Conf North level - we might be able to afford one but not both. Richman is being required to do all the chasing & challenging & desperately needs a partner in crime. Moult so far this season has been a shadow of what he has been in the past, I fear - a defensive midfielder who isn't doing a particularly good job. Maybe time will be the great healer - but then again, maybe not ...

You can probably get away with all 3 AMs if you play a 4231 with 2 effective DMs. I genuinely think that Jake and Simon will get there again, given a bit of form and confidence - with Goodall to push them as well.