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Title: Cheshire Senior Cup Draw
Post by: Inter Alty! on November 03, 2021, 02:32:58 PM
So the draw has been made (full draw on attached link) & Alty have been drawn at home to Nantwich...

COYR!  :)

https://twitter.com/NonLeagueNews/status/1455894374315970566?s=20
Title: Re: Cheshire Senior Cup Draw
Post by: rorysgrandad on November 03, 2021, 05:53:42 PM
We’ll be in the FA Cup third round that day.
Title: Re: Cheshire Senior Cup Draw
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on November 03, 2021, 06:18:12 PM


I could have sworn that I read that this draw had actually been made weeks ago?
Title: Re: Cheshire Senior Cup Draw
Post by: robininstockport on November 03, 2021, 06:42:41 PM


I could have sworn that I read that this draw had actually been made weeks ago?

It was and posted on the Cheshire FA website.
Title: Re: Cheshire Senior Cup Draw
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on November 03, 2021, 06:53:19 PM
What's the betting it'll get reversed to Nantwich?
Title: Re: Cheshire Senior Cup Draw
Post by: CRT Butty on November 03, 2021, 09:55:15 PM
What's the betting it'll get mostly ignored?

Edit. I used to love this competition, sadly it's a dead duck now that needs ditching.
Title: Re: Cheshire Senior Cup Draw
Post by: Silent but Ledley on November 04, 2021, 08:14:23 AM
So we welcome the Dabbers! SBL
Title: Re: Cheshire Senior Cup Draw
Post by: Toff Apple on November 04, 2021, 10:46:02 AM
As we have risen up the leagues and given the professional status of our league, it is a reserve ish looking fixture if we can get away with it
Title: Re: Cheshire Senior Cup Draw
Post by: CRT Butty on November 04, 2021, 12:32:33 PM
Home draw!!
Title: Re: Cheshire Senior Cup Draw
Post by: Saughall Robin on November 04, 2021, 01:01:10 PM
Home draw!!

Not sure it counts as a first team competition nowadays.
The great days of a packed ground for a two legged final against Witton are long gone.
Title: Re: Cheshire Senior Cup Draw
Post by: CRT Butty on November 04, 2021, 01:03:48 PM
Home draw!!

Not sure it counts as a first team competition nowadays.
The great days of a packed ground for a two legged final against Witton are long gone.

Totally, with no way back no matter how much tinkering goes on. It should be respectfully ceased.
Title: Re: Cheshire Senior Cup Draw
Post by: Bangor on Dee Robin on November 04, 2021, 04:52:22 PM
Make it a preseason competition maybe ?
Title: Re: Cheshire Senior Cup Draw
Post by: Saughall Robin on November 04, 2021, 05:24:42 PM
Make it a preseason competition maybe ?

Think we've had this conversation previously.
My view is that it would only work if it was for clubs from say NLN and up to make it meaningful pre season.
Perhaps a Junior Cup for the rest?
Not sure that would be popular though.
Title: Re: Cheshire Senior Cup Draw
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on November 04, 2021, 11:07:18 PM
Make it a preseason competition maybe ?

Think we've had this conversation previously.
My view is that it would only work if it was for clubs from say NLN and up to make it meaningful pre season.
Perhaps a Junior Cup for the rest?
Not sure that would be popular though.

It could scarcely be less popular than it is now.
Title: Re: Cheshire Senior Cup Draw
Post by: Saughall Robin on November 05, 2021, 07:53:43 AM
Make it a preseason competition maybe ?

Think we've had this conversation previously.
My view is that it would only work if it was for clubs from say NLN and up to make it meaningful pre season.
Perhaps a Junior Cup for the rest?
Not sure that would be popular though.

It could scarcely be less popular than it is now.
What I meant was the smaller clubs and the Cheshire FA would block it.
Title: Re: Cheshire Senior Cup Draw
Post by: andrewflynn on November 05, 2021, 09:19:10 AM
Make it a preseason competition maybe ?

Think we've had this conversation previously.
My view is that it would only work if it was for clubs from say NLN and up to make it meaningful pre season.
Perhaps a Junior Cup for the rest?
Not sure that would be popular though.

It could scarcely be less popular than it is now.
What I meant was the smaller clubs and the Cheshire FA would block it.

I think if anything it's more likely to be blocked by the clubs higher up the leagues as it impacts their preparation. I don't think we'd book in a friendly against Cammell Laird in normal circumstances but a Winsford/1874 type might do. I could definitely see a scenario where Stockport or even ourselves chuck the game in the first round because we'd much rather test ourselves against Blackpool etc the following week rather than Vauxhall Motors.

The only way I could possibly see it working during pre-season would be in a league format. Clubs simply cannot leave X dates open in the likelihood that they progress. If they're knocked out, they're left with a huge gap in their pre-season that they might not be able to fill.

Then you've got the problem of the scale of the competition. The FA website says there are 25 teams entered (how does that work?) You can't realistically run a competition in that short a time frame alongside the other friendlies arranged.

Not sure if there's a seeding system in place and tiered entry into the competition? I know it's a bit I'm Alright Jack but could the 16 lowest seeded teams play amongst themselves first and then be followed in by the other clubs at a later round.

A more outlandish suggestion would be for the competition to be played amongst the four/eight sides who got the furthest in the previous season's FA Cup relative to their starting point, ie rounds progressed.

I'm a sucker for history and tradition so I'd be sad to see it go but I do agree that we could do without it, and it probably should be retired respectfully if we can't make a new format work. It won't happen though as I suspect those at the Cheshire FA quite enjoy their Tuesday evenings out.
Title: Re: Cheshire Senior Cup Draw
Post by: Mallorca Alty on November 07, 2021, 05:20:26 AM
You have to take part in this competition to qualify for the FA Cup. So it is unlikely this competition will get scrapped. While no one is that bothered about the early rounds Cheshire Cup Final day is usually a good away day. The 2005 competition when Alty beat a strong Crewe Alexandra side in the Final was particularly good night.