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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Jenga on November 13, 2008, 07:46:45 PM
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Well this one will get me peaked for sure but here goes.
I have noticed over recent months that many altrincham fans are being more and more disrespectful to other clubs and their supporters.
We are a friendly club who live within our means (now anyway) and pride ourselves on this fact and that we are currently holding our own in a full time league. Remember Altrinchams darker financial days?
But the comments I have seen lately are a joke.
So we don't like FGR because of Peake, who I agree should have been shot a birth. But why have a go at the FGR fans.
Matt from NVFC comes on here, know i hate vics with a passion but sometimes he is ok, Vessey comes on and to start with was nice, but noticed the aggression to him, although alot of what he says now is i am sure done to wind us up.
Luton fans come on here and are pleasant enough and we launch at them with stupid comments like know your geography we are no where need curzon you cockneys. We have kids in the crowds singing going down and you f***ed up the league and stuff, who perhaps dont remember our 19 point deduction.
Now I know alot of people on this forum, but it seems to be the ones i don't know are the ones that are getting all aggressive with other clubs. Maybe your the kids I don't know, maybe you dont know our proud past, but if some of you carry on the way you are at the moment we will get a bad name and who knows before long a good kicking.
Can we all grow up please and act like the club and fans we really are.
Well thats all i wanted to say.
Discuss, peake, slag me off, i dont mind but i think i do have a point in what i am saying.
Thank you.
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Makes perfrect sense to me... have a goodwin
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Tend to agree.........why not keep to banter
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You've got a Goodwin off me
I agree entirely and absolutely with every word of that
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I agree with this fully and have noticed a fair bit of techy-ness on here recently from people I don't know personally.
I'm going to give you a peake though, just for the sheer controversy of it all.
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Good point, well put !!!!
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Good post Jenga. Al opinions are free to be held on here I hope but respect to individuals, other members, other teams etc is surely only civilised and proper.
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Totally agree with all that. However, when FGR fans come on and start a thread saying Colin Peake - My Lord, I think abuse is all that can be expected, whether it be justified or not.
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With other teams fans i tend to agree in some respects. I think it was a Salisbury steward who came on here and got a tongue lashing just for being helpful. The Luton fan got a bit more than they deserved. However mad vics mat and vessey are a pair of trolls who come on here making leading gestures with a distinctly average level of wit, they deserve a bit of abuse.
Youve got a point jenga but its alright saying that you dont know these people personally but at least mention their username and give them chance to be shamed/defend themselves.
I cant see how things on this forum will get someone a kicking, other than from another alty fan. We give opposition fans loads at the match, a thousand times worse than the forum. Not to mention our famous heckling of keepers.
Im not sure when alty has ever been this family friendly, no trouble, oasis of footballing calm. We're the same as any other club, we've always been horrible at times, and long may it continue. Boxing day/New years day will demonstrate this. We're disrespectful to other clubs because thats football and its always going to be like that.
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OCG you refer to how can this get us a kicking.
Just think about it for a minute maybe.
Lets assume that due to the singing at luton and the grief we gave the fan who came on here that out of the possible 200 fans that come to the replay it includes 10 hardcore nuts who are so passionate about their club they feel so strong about the 30 point deduction and are facing no league for many years to come that they decide to teach us a lesson - i am sorry but look at the trouble 1 (or was it 2) hardcore nuts caused in a friendly against FCUM.
I am all for banter, i am all for singing and i am all for shouting at the opposition keeper and giving grief to people who come on saying Colin Peake my lord. Dont get me wrong in that regard.
But some people need to take a look at themselves.
You think i should mention names as well? To be honest this thread is not aimed at anyone specific and i don't want to cause arguments amongst our own supporters, it is a general comment that i make but i am sure you could perhaps think of names yourself maybe?
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Vessey comes on here deliberatly to cause crap, hence the one man army assault on one of the administators.
The Salisbury steward thread was totally out of order, and if i remember correctly most people apologised.
Some of the other disrespect comes from people 'biting' when muppets register, post, and then disappear. As with the Peake thread only 2 seem to have bitten...
I think most people realise MattNVFC is a softie at heart and just wants some friends, he gets more grief from his OWN supporters on his own teams board.
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MatNVFC or.. More commonly known as Matt Hardy is a 16 year old KID.
Do not feel frettened by him!
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MatNVFC or.. More commonly known as Matt Hardy is a 16 year old KID.
Do not feel frettened by him!
Thanks for confirming it was you who booked the places on our coaches.
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Afraid not mate.. ;)
Although i have been told about it! I wouldn't do anything that pointless or immature to a team i couldn't give a flying f**k about :D
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Yeah you did.
Any you have spent 4 hours solid on here tonight...not bad for a team you don't care about I'd say.
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Im doing a bit of online working, might aswell do something to pass the time ;)
Once again im very sorry Mr Officer but i cannot account for the coach bookings..
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Afraid not mate.. ;)
Although i have been told about it! I wouldn't do anything that pointless or immature to a team i couldn't give a flying f**k about :D
Cheerio then !
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??? Still here
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Have a Goodwin, Jenga. I'm all for banter, but some take it too far.
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Jenga#s spot on in his original post.
I don't think anything posted on here relates to real life too much, saying Luton are sh*t isn't going to raise the attention of anty genuine hooligans.
I think the point is that we ahve some younger fans who seem to think that singing going down etc is funny. it isn't, it winds people up. If we were away at say Telford in round 2 and some of them were sticking vs out of coach windows resulting in a brick or were winding people up which results in somebody else getting a slap, then I'm afraid I'd be handing out some home truths of my own.
Point being, don't be dicks, don't lower yourself to others level and be aware that all actions have consequences (even if they don't happen to you).
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OCG you refer to how can this get us a kicking.
Just think about it for a minute maybe.
Lets assume that due to the singing at luton and the grief we gave the fan who came on here that out of the possible 200 fans that come to the replay it includes 10 hardcore nuts who are so passionate about their club they feel so strong about the 30 point deduction and are facing no league for many years to come that they decide to teach us a lesson - i am sorry but look at the trouble 1 (or was it 2) hardcore nuts caused in a friendly against FCUM.
I am all for banter, i am all for singing and i am all for shouting at the opposition keeper and giving grief to people who come on saying Colin Peake my lord. Dont get me wrong in that regard.
But some people need to take a look at themselves.
You think i should mention names as well? To be honest this thread is not aimed at anyone specific and i don't want to cause arguments amongst our own supporters, it is a general comment that i make but i am sure you could perhaps think of names yourself maybe?
My point is not about our actions at games, its just about things said on the forum. I did mention that the Luton fan got a bit of stick he didnt deserve, but it was still relatively light-hearted. It won't translate onto the terraces at the replay.
What we do at games could and has got others into a bit of bother, but thats a different kettle of fish. When the old guard talk about the 70's I dont see anyone lambasting them for glorifying it to the 'young supporters'. Its just football, we all know what happens, because it has done for years.
I agree that sometimes people go over the top but its not fair to say that the post isn't about anyone you know, and then say its not directed at anyone, it clearly is.
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No actually it is not.
There have been many examples but who said what and when and about who i really cant remember and havent got the time to go trolling looking for them.
It is a general feeling I have picked up on.
I mention that it is not about people I know because if it was it would stick in my memory.
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I think you should be kinder to fans of other clubs and should really be buying them beers and stuff, especially at Christmas time when it's "goodwin to all men".
;D ;D
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Not for the first time, I remember a certain match with Hednesford
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Well this one will get me peaked for sure but here goes.
I have noticed over recent months that many altrincham fans are being more and more disrespectful to other clubs and their supporters.
We are a friendly club who live within our means (now anyway) and pride ourselves on this fact and that we are currently holding our own in a full time league. Remember Altrinchams darker financial days?
But the comments I have seen lately are a joke.
So we don't like FGR because of Peake, who I agree should have been shot a birth. But why have a go at the FGR fans.
Matt from NVFC comes on here, know i hate vics with a passion but sometimes he is ok, Vessey comes on and to start with was nice, but noticed the aggression to him, although alot of what he says now is i am sure done to wind us up.
Luton fans come on here and are pleasant enough and we launch at them with stupid comments like know your geography we are no where need curzon you cockneys. We have kids in the crowds singing going down and you f***ed up the league and stuff, who perhaps dont remember our 19 point deduction.
Now I know alot of people on this forum, but it seems to be the ones i don't know are the ones that are getting all aggressive with other clubs. Maybe your the kids I don't know, maybe you dont know our proud past, but if some of you carry on the way you are at the moment we will get a bad name and who knows before long a good kicking.
Can we all grow up please and act like the club and fans we really are.
Well thats all i wanted to say.
Discuss, peake, slag me off, i dont mind but i think i do have a point in what i am saying.
Thank you.
I agree with it, especially in regards to the "Going Down" chants, I always like to think we are better than that ... Hence why tried to start songs 'over' the top of those sort of pointless chants...
Of course I reserve the right to HATE all things Macc, Vics and FGR... Sorry but all tarnished with same brush and have no time for any of them. I NEVER forget anything and thats why I will hate all things FGR until the day I die.
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Well done Jenga, finally a decent poster from alty. Posted a few days back and yes did receive some rather immature comments. Prior to the game advised your fans of parking at Luton, and a pub welcoming away fans i.e. Bedfordshire Yeoman etc, but subsequent to game a lot of nonsense posted on here.
One commented in the Yeoman a Luton fan instructed his 12 year old son to 'ave him because he was wearing his alty shirt..don't you think that was meant as a light hearted joke?
Yes saw the You Tube business, trust me older Luton fans like myself found it embarrassing.
Some alty fans have already found our messageboard Luton Outlaws and we welcome sensible posters with decent discussion points or witty banter, but please don't just post sh*te like fcuk off cockneys etc!!
As regards the replay be surprised if more than 200 turn up from Luton, and wish you well if you beat us.
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I think we are going to have to come to terms with the fact that as well as the good news attracting lots of younger fans to the club, this is bound to bring with it an element who do not get non league football, the days are gone when we could rely on the fact that no alty fan would let us down.
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I think we are going to have to come to terms with the fact that as well as the good news attracting lots of younger fans to the club, this is bound to bring with it an element who do not get non league football, the days are gone when we could rely on the fact that no alty fan would let us down.
I think it's worth mentioning that we do not have any such lofty ideals at Kenilworth Rd, and if our fans had bothered turning out you might have heard it. So, if we were to complian about you singing "Going Down" it would be hypocrisy in the extreme for us where it's just seen as banter.
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I generally agree with your post, but you must be able to tell the difference between someone jesting with sarcasm and witty banter and someone who is generally being a mong.
i like to think i fall into the first category.
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No actually it is not.
There have been many examples but who said what and when and about who i really cant remember and havent got the time to go trolling looking for them.
It is a general feeling I have picked up on.
I mention that it is not about people I know because if it was it would stick in my memory.
I do agree with you jenga, Its laughable some of the tripe that gets posted to people on here. Not just away fans, but anyone who goes against the norm. Some people just cant believe their threads arent met with raptures.
My point originally is that it wont get anyone a kicking.
Secondly, that at least an example would be good, just to emphasise the kind of thing you mean. We'll agree to disagree with this and get on with our lives. No hard feelings and i'll get back to my pereguin falcon programme.
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Agree with this post, was not impressed with the "going down" sh*t at Luton.
As Mr Harris once said "come on, we're Altrincham"...
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Couldn't make Luton but singing "going down?"...didn't think we did stuff like that?
Another reason why I'd rather be stood with 60 at St Albans than 400 at Luton sadly.
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Couldn't make Luton but singing "going down?"...didn't think we did stuff like that?
Another reason why I'd rather be stood with 60 at St Albans than 400 at Luton sadly.
Yep we are in a no win situation,you want to do well but success brings it's ills.
Imagine being a old skool local Man Utd fan!
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I really enjoy the forum and it is very funny at times with some sharp humour. But all this stuff about hate and hating teams and immediately getting aggressive when an 'outsider' posts is pretty sad stuff. Do we want to live life 'hating.' Its ok surely to wish for success and hope other teams don't do well etc. But hate?
In fact that flag that is often seen 'hating Vics' only gives public awareness to the Vics rather than anything else. When people go to see a gig say with Led Zep, do they have hating the Beatles scarfs. Ok I will get some slagging for these old bands but don't hate me!!!
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its hating macc and although i broadly agree with you in this flags case its justified
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"FOOTBALL" ::)
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Good post Jenga. The thing that has always made me laugh the most is the Aty fans who give sh*t to opposing fans when they are safe ie segregated, then the first to run when the backs are against the wall.
You always find the ones who say the least are the most reliable.
Good hiding place the internet ... no real names used.
Looking forward to Tuesday come on the Robins :)
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Good post Jenga. The thing that has always made me laugh the most is the Aty fans who give sh*t to opposing fans when they are safe ie segregated, then the first to run when the backs are against the wall.
You always find the ones who say the least are the most reliable.
Good hiding place the internet ... no real names used.
Looking forward to Tuesday come on the Robins :)
I agree with you Dave
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Good post Jenga. The thing that has always made me laugh the most is the Aty fans who give sh*t to opposing fans when they are safe ie segregated, then the first to run when the backs are against the wall.
You always find the ones who say the least are the most reliable.
Good hiding place the internet ... no real names used.
Looking forward to Tuesday come on the Robins :)
I agree with you Dave
Thanks Justin 8) (ill pull the cord Gary- i will !)
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Whos the 16 year old boy ???
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Whos the 16 year old boy ???
FGR Bhoy, who appears to have been conspicuous by his absence this evening; he went beyond the reals of banterdom and well into dorkdom!
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spot on