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Altrincham FC First Team / GRAHAM HEATHCOTE'S RED AND WHITE ARMY
« on: November 06, 2008, 06:43:51 PM »
Heathcote in!  ;D

It took two years and a promtion (or two) for (some)  people to show support for club legend and football genius Graham Heathcote after Burscough. I wonder what it will take this time?

And yes, I was upset to read how disillusioned our wonderful chairman Geoff Goodwin felt (and still does feel for all I know) after the recent (ill-judged) anti-Heathcote campaign. A pity that this has to happen in (probably) our best season since 1995 or 1996 AD.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Little and Senior
« on: October 22, 2008, 05:33:38 PM »
Am I right in thinking we are very dependent on the form of Little and Senior? If so, let's hope Senior is alright for Sunday (feels weird righting Sunday). It will be a boost when Denham comes back of course but that could be a while.

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Altrincham FC First Team / If anyone wants a lift to Newcastle...
« on: October 22, 2008, 05:22:45 PM »
That's right, I left it too late to book on again (Tuesday) and with two people on the reserve list, me, big Ian and maybe Paul are going by car so we have two spaces if anyone wants a lift. Please post here or e-mail me by Friday afternoon if you do.

Tom, can you let me know if there's a second coach or spaces become available please and I may still go on the coach.

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Altrincham FC First Team / FAO Ecky
« on: October 15, 2008, 06:46:12 PM »
Is it really possible to do Newcastle to Trafford Park iun three hours? I'm wondering about the cup game.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Anyone want a lift to Ru$hden?
« on: September 29, 2008, 10:42:34 AM »
If you would like  a lift to Rushden, please post here or e-mail cooperhugh@hotmail.com

I will probably leave about 3 or 4pm. I will check here probably early pm. Am prepared to do it for free if necessary, this is about getting people down there not money - I know the 'coach' was sold out a while ago.

Hugh

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Altrincham FC First Team / WELL??? >:(
« on: September 24, 2008, 04:36:41 PM »
I was right though, wasn't I. More to come from these players, and we were missing Senior (NB - he was injured, James Black).

PLenty more I could say, but as I said, I have better things to do than explain the basics of association football, or how we should keep a good manager if we are lucky enough to have one. Some of you might like to think about what you've done though.

Let's hope we can put last week behind us now and move on from here.

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Altrincham FC First Team / FAO Alty365
« on: September 19, 2008, 06:00:06 PM »
Re. these posts.

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Perhaps you should count Woking, they're the only bottom ten side we've played (apart from Stevenage, who are clearly in a false position - there' I'm doing it now!). Think about it!       

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More crap I spotted in your post, 365. The pattern of the las two years... speaking of which, we had all this crap last season, when we had 3 points from ten before we came good. This season, 9 points (probably) from 10, in the same situation with a lot of new players (and injury trouble). Get a grip son.
 

Perhaps I was tactless and wrote in haste. None the less, I feel it is highly selective not to count Woking when they are the only definitely poor side we have played (Kettering are still unbeaten, Barrow are near the top etc.) And if you are going to look at things from the past, surely you have to take into account the positive aswell as the negative. I remain convinced that our position is not so very different from at this time last season (and if we get the win tomorrow, 9 from 10 instead of 3 from 10), and we darn nearly got out of it last season from a worse position - hence my talk of holdimg our nerve and waiting - that would be the brave thing to do imo.

And what crap was I speaking? I am a reasonable person for all the crap and would be prepared to reconsider given good reasons.
My e-mail address is cooperhugh@hotmail.com      Hint hint...

Anyway, never mind about who is speaking what crap for now, let's just concentrate on supporting the team tomorrow. That's what it's all about innit. All Alty fans, all want to win, whatever our differences.

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Altrincham FC First Team / FAO Alty365
« on: September 19, 2008, 05:20:45 PM »
re. thiese posts.


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Perhaps you should count Woking, they're the only bottom ten side we've played (apart from Stevenage, who are clearly in a false position - there' I'm doing it now!). Think about it
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More crap I spotted in your post, 365. The pattern of the las two years... speaking of which, we had all this crap last season, when we had 3 points from ten before we came good. This season, 9 points (probably) from 10, in the same situation with a lot of new players (and injury trouble). Get a grip son.
 
 


Perhaps I was a bit tactless and I wrote in haste. Nonetheless, I consider it highly selective and unfair considering they are the only poor side we've played.

And if you want to look at patterns from previous years, surely you should look at the positive aswell as the negative? (ie we nearly got out of it last season and probably would have without the preseason disruption)

Please explain how I'm speaking crap?
e-mail cooperhugh@hotmail.com

hint hint

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Altrincham FC First Team / Heathcote's actual management
« on: September 19, 2008, 03:31:24 PM »
In the Histon match, he saw the handball alright (which I missed) and told th referee so.

Salisbury: I don't know except that we drew with the top team

Stevenage: he changed the system after ten minutes because we were being overrun in midfield. He apparently came out early for the second half (perhaps this was a reaction to the poor performance such as other managers do), having gicen the players a ticking off. He talked to someone after the penalty was given but watched the actual penalty.

Vauxhall: during 5-10 minutes when I was sat in the main stand, he said among other things, to get near to their two midfielders, and to stop hitting the ball 60 yards and try playing it ten yards. See the match report by Laidlar for more on what he said during the match.

I haven't been to a training session yet but may do so tonight. Anything else on his actual management welcome.

As for the style of play - I would think the way the manager knows best is best (although I did enjoy the Brazil style football at Stalybridge, and hope we can recapture it). results is what I want though - to quote a former Stoke manager - if you want entertainment, watch clowns.

I think some people don't quite appreciate how the getting new players thing works. All a manager can do is get the best players he can (and Alty will have a limited choice) and hope they work together in terms of playing together, team spirit, and commitment. There's no guarantees, although managers can improve these things given time.



As for my feelings, yes I like Heathcote, and make no apologies for it. People with personal issues (if any) will have to get used to it. I also like Bernard Taylor, and my mother for that matter, but would not suggest either as manager of Alty. I decided a long time ago that Heathcote is a good coach. I saw the team of 1991, I watched numerous training sessions that he took before he became manager, and numerous first team matches. I felt the frustreation as we played ineptly on the pitch whilst Graham stewed on the sidelines as secretary. And I was confident of the improvement which duly came when he became manager. As far as I can see he is pretty much the same man now as he was  then. Is there something I've missed? have I got it all wrong? I see it as a case of holding our nerve now, and the improvement will come.


Oh, and can we have no more of this three relegations in a row nonsense. The first time we should have got deducted three points at most and would still have stayed up. The second time probably wouldn't have happened without the disrupion of the first time (or the third time). This is the first season we've started with money in the bank. Also less disruption this time (not none) and I confidently predict we will get out of this.

And my previous predictions:

2002 - welcomed appointment of Heathcote - correct

2003 - said we'd make Conference North however badly things went on the pitch - correct

2004 - said we'd do well despite most people having us down for relegation - correct

2005 - said we'd stay up(people had us down for relegation again) - correct

2006 - said we'd probably stay up somehow or other (I think) - correct

2007 - said we'd stay up on the pitch - wrong (just)


Not a bad record considering I mostly speak crap apparently. I may again be in the minority, but see if I'm wrong. Or perhaps I'm suddenly rubbish aswell because of one mistake.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Heathcote in, continued.
« on: September 15, 2008, 06:13:34 PM »
Of course we should keep Heathcote, any new manager would still have the same problems, without some of the advantages. Much better to be like Crewe, not Newcastle (remember Bobby Robson?) IT would be like sdacking Dario Grady because Crewe got relegated to the third (stroke 2nd stroke league one).TYhat's the reality of how hard the Conference is for us.

A quote from radio Five Live: "United fans are blaming Alex Ferguson's tactics". I was going to say enough said, but some people are getting a bit carried away so seemingly not. For those who find it difficult to understand, I will go through some of the problems we face, and why I think we have a decent manager (and decent man) doing the best he can do in difficult circumstances.

A couple of things that need clearing up straight away. Yes, we did better after getting rid of Bernard Taylor. If you remember, he had dispensed with Graham Heathocte as assistant manager by then. Graham had been a lot of the reason why we had been doing well (probably the same in 1991 aswell). The new assistant, if I remember rightly, was in fact clueless. That's basically why we needed a change.

As for Heathcote being clueless, that is absolute rubbish. And people who say this may realiase it aswell if they calm down and think about it rationally. He's been involved in the non league game for over thirty years.He reads the non-league paper thoroughly every weekend (a good source tells me). I have had the opportunity to watych countless training sessions that Heathcote has taken over the years, probably more than most people on here, certainly more than the muppets who are looking for any excuse to have Heathcote out, and I can tell you that he gave no impression to me of being clueless. I remember one tiome when he explained exactly how he wanted the players to deal with a particular opposition player (possibly for Emley?) - we did well enough in that league didn't we. As one person close to him said, he can tell the players what to do, but he can't do it for them.

Now about sacking managers. I remember hearing somewhere that statistically, teams are more likely to do the same or worse in the long run under a new manager. I would think this particularly would apply to an experienced manager with a proven track record (yes we nearly went down last season after a disrupted preseason in a difficult league. Btw it would be just as accurate to say we got promoted (for the sixth time in a row) at the end of last season (when Halifax went bust) as to say we got relegated), with a proven track record and who knows and cares about the club like Heathcote. Would United have done better if they'd sacked Fergy in the eighties? no. Would Crewe have done better if they'd sacked Dario Grady? no. Will we do better if we sack Heathcote? No. The conference is a hard league deal with it.

Now we had all this nonsense last season, and we turned it around, and Heathcote told some of the realities of life about the "boss team" and all the rest of it. So far this season we have played six top half teams, two bottom half teams (away) and one team who should be top half (away). Not much opportunity for being the boss team there I think (apart from Woking which we won, and Eastbourne which we were unlucky not to win but that's football). This season, we again have almost a new team, and surprisingly enough the manager is trying different things trying to find the most effective way of playing. And recently, our two best strikers have had injury problems, Little carrying an injury and Senior coming bvack from injury. Maybe there is a confidence problem by now aswell - thank goodness for the Cheshire cup!

Yes, we've got less problems than in the past, thanks to Goodwin and Heathcote )don't forget we had no right to get promotion in 2005, three years ahead of schedule). But even now, we didn't have a full preseason to prepare, the Halifax thing coming a few weeks after the end of the season, if earlier than the time before. Still, we ARE doing better. 6 points from 9 compared to 3 from ten last time, and we'll probably have 9 from ten by Saturday (although there's no certainties in football). I'm convinced the goal will come, it's just a matter of time. The end of the year would be a better time to assess if there's any assessing to bwe done.

I was wrong to say we could beat Stevenage, perhaps it was a bit of wishful thinking, it seems other people think we should have won. Well we got beat 5-0 by these teams in the past. Anyway our current position is not too bad. Look at the table and tell me which teams you expect to finish above.CRAWLEY TOWN  9 6 1 2 17 8 9 19      - no
2 SALISBURY CITY 9 6 1 2 13 7 6 19 0-0 probably not   
3 KETTERING TOWN 9 4 5 0 13 7 6 17 1-1  no   
4 MANSFIELD TOWN 9 5 2 2 17 12 5 17      no
5 CAMBRIDGE UNITED 9 5 2 2 13 8 5 17       no!
6 HISTON 9 4 3 2 15 11 4 15   0-1   maybe, but they've gort some money I heard
7 BURTON ALBION 9 4 3 2 18 16 2 15       no. Clough out too, they lost 4-1!
8 WREXHAM 9 4 2 3 16 9 7 14 1-1     no
9 KIDDERMINSTER HARRIERS 9 4 2 3 16 13 3 14   0-4 no 
10 BARROW 9 4 2 3 16 14 2 14 3-4     maybe but they're a bigger club, settled team
11 YORK CITY 9 3 5 1 12 10 2 14       no
12 FOREST GREEN ROVERS 9 4 2 3 10 9 1 14  no   
13 EBBSFLEET UNITED 9 3 4 2 16 10 6 13       no
14 EASTBOURNE BOROUGH 9 4 1 4 11 15 -4 13   0-1 maybe   
15 RUSHDEN & DIAMONDS 9 3 3 3 12 8 4 12 no     
16 WEYMOUTH 9 3 3 3 13 15 -2 1 maybe
17 TORQUAY UNITED 9 3 2 4 8 11 -3 11    no   
18 STEVENAGE BOROUGH 9 3 2 4 13 17 -4 11   0-3 no   
19 OXFORD UNITED 9 2 3 4 10 13 -3 9       no
20 GRAYS ATHLETIC 9 2 1 6 9 15 -6 7       
21 ALTRINCHAM 9 1 3 5 7 16 -9 6       
22 WOKING 9 1 2 6 8 13 -5 5   2-1   
23 NORTHWICH VICTORIA 9 0 3 6 10 18 -8 3       
24 LEWES 9 0 3 6 5 23 -18 3       
 

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Altrincham FC First Team / Saturday's 'six pointer'.
« on: September 11, 2008, 05:10:25 PM »
I think we can win this one. We've come a long way since we lost 3-0 there all thos years ago (ok, about 3 years ago).

I'm not scared by 4-1, Histon scored 5 after all after only scoring one against us, and we've got time to prepare for the match properly this time.

Only conceded two goals in three games, and we beat the last bottom ten team we played. As for the goals I'm sure they will come, we've been pretty unlucky not to score in the last three and definitely have the players to do it, keep supporting the lads.

And yes, Battersby has been solid, he hasn't let anyone down.

Remember we didn't win for the first ten last season. Again we have many new players, but I think we should find some form any time now.

I said WE could beat Croatia, and the same goes for Stevenage. Believe.

(Btw, I know the tables don't mean much at this stage, I just llike the idea of a sic pointer with them after all these years of Hitchin's rivals larging it!)

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Altrincham FC First Team / "HEATHCOTE IN" continued
« on: September 01, 2008, 04:43:51 PM »
You win some, you lose some, I'm just glad we won the one at Stoke, because there was a time when I despaired of ever seeing Conference football at Alty again. At the end of the day, we are basically in the same situation as last season , with a lot of new players, except this time they are slightly better hence 5 points from six games instead of three from ten (after which we still nearly stayed up).

Frankly I've got better things to do than get into arguments about Heathcote's suitability. Personally I prefer to celebrate the fact we got back to the Conference and stayed there despite everything that's been thrown at us (and that includes a certain Accrington chairman). If other people prefer to slate Heathcote's record then that's their problem.

Unfortunately for Heathcote this sort of nonsense goes with the territory, and I have great respect for him sticking it out despite the same stuff year after year. Btw, I'm convinced we will stay up. Honestly, we haven't even been in the bottom 4 yet. If we had an extended spell in the bottom 4 then people might have an excuse for whinging. Then again, maybe not as there's only about 4 part time teams in this league. Life's difficult, Alty will lose some matches, get used to it!

PS I wonder how many people are asking for the manager out at Oxford, Torquay, Stevenage?

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Altrincham FC First Team / Burglar in South Timperley?
« on: July 31, 2008, 04:51:09 PM »
Round Brook Av, Brook Lane last night, me and my brother saw someone on a bicycle behaving very suspiciously.

Around 3.50am in the garden after the night shift, as I was going outside, I saw a young man    (or old boy, white, on a (mountain?)bike, with dark clothes and possibly a lighter coloured baseball cap) who seemed to be coming out of our drive. He went off down Brook Avenue, cycling slowly on the pavement, seeming not to take much notice of me. I saw him looking in another house down the road, and he eventually went round the corner towards Londis. My brother went looking for him in his car and saw him looking at a house aswell, before losing sight of him on a road off the further up part of Brook Lane. Be aware! Especially during the school holidays.

 Funnily enough I just read a newspaper piece sasying that illegal drugs trading is worth 5.3 billion pounds a year and accounts for 60 per cent of crime.

To force a football connection - this sort of thing is more likely to go on with rising costs. I think it could work in Alty's favour though - United have to charge high prices because of debt, people are less able to afford them so local people may opt for Alty more, especially if we play like at Stalybridge!

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Altrincham FC First Team / Rotherham
« on: April 25, 2008, 02:53:37 PM »
It has to be asked, what's going on at Rotherham?

One of those messages has come up on teletext again - "Rotherham face immediate closure" this time. It sounds quite serious but it could be just the way they say it.

PS win at the Shay mission impossible? hardly. It's not over yet.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Now is the time to rally round.
« on: April 09, 2008, 03:25:12 PM »
There will be plenty of time for being negative after the season's finished, waiting for the AGM, and besides, prophecies of doom can be self fulfilling. Let's try and think positive for these next few matches until it really is over one way or other.

I can tell you, if we play like we did last night, we are more than capable of getting the results we need. The next three games can hardly be tougher than the last three, and without wanting to tempt fate, we are capable on our day of winning all these matches. Stay positive, show the lads our support, concentrate on getting as many as we can down to "Ebbsfleet" and Weymouth - and on Saturday for that matter.

I'm not convinced the other sides in it are on form. Farsley, apart from Torquay, have not been anything special lately. Weymouth have about two wins in 16, Halifax of course are struggling, Northwich drew at home against a mid table side, and had a player sent off. 9 points should be enough, 7 might be enough.

And about the Weymouth game. A wise man once said that if two teams in this situation play each other and one needs a win while the other needs a draw, the one that needs the win usually gets the win.

We could easily be in our highest position of the season on Saturday night, let's hope so!  :P

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