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https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/sport/football/chesterfield-in-talks-to-sign-former-wigan-athletic-crewe-alexandra-and-sC**thorpe-united-winger-reports-3979629 (https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/sport/football/chesterfield-in-talks-to-sign-former-wigan-athletic-crewe-alexandra-and-sC**thorpe-united-winger-reports-3979629)
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Oh dear 😕
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Do we get one of their strikers as part of the deal?
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Do we get one of their strikers as part of the deal?
Well they have at least three that would walk staightv into our starting 11
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Do we get one of their strikers as part of the deal?
Well they have at least three that would walk staightv into our starting 11
True also if colclough goes there as a left midfielder dobra is half decent so ryan may have to bide his time
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I'd rather he stayed though.
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Do we get one of their strikers as part of the deal?
Sadly, I pretty sure we couldn't afford their wages.
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If Ryan leaves we have:
No left wing
A no. 10 who is leaving at the end of the month
very limited options on right wing
no real threat up front
Come the end of January our attack is looking awful
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Dobra must be off. He certainly put himself in the shop window, he's scored 5/9 in the FA Cup this season and he's young.
I'd still be pissed if Ryan went anywhere else in this league.
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Money talks understandably so......and the magic money tree at Chesterfield is now bearing fruit once again.....they were flat broke when they had a multi millionaire businessman and ex-Sheff Weds owner in charge ????
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If Ryan leaves we have:
No left wing
A no. 10 who is leaving at the end of the month
very limited options on right wing
no real threat up front
Come the end of January our attack is looking awful
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This!
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I will be surprised if he is still at Alty by the end of this transfer window, if teams like Chesterfield come calling then I suppose he will have his head turned.. he would cope admirably in any team in this league.
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http://www.thecfss.co.uk/forums/index.php?s=1ec8a60b0c4b4e268832e29f256dcc13&showtopic=70708 (http://www.thecfss.co.uk/forums/index.php?s=1ec8a60b0c4b4e268832e29f256dcc13&showtopic=70708)
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Isn't Chesterfield more local for him? This one has danger written all over it (the Oldham one never had legs); he'd be in League Two either this year or next.
However IF it happens - and I'd love him to stay - then I remind everyone of when we banked a fee for John Johnston and replaced him with Elliot Durell, Dan Mooney and Josh Lundstram on loan.
If selling up is what's required to allow us to regenerate and go another step, that's sadly what we have to do.
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Isn't Chesterfield more local for him? This one has danger written all over it (the Oldham one never had legs); he'd be in League Two either this year or next.
However IF it happens - and I'd love him to stay - then I remind everyone of when we banked a fee for John Johnston and replaced him with Elliot Durell, Dan Mooney and Josh Lundstram on loan.
If selling up is what's required to allow us to regenerate and go another step, that's sadly what we have to do.
Is it more local?.....NO
I can assure you that Burslem to Knutsford is much easier than the journey to Chesterfield...albeit it can be done in an hour via Uttoxeter and Derby
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Remarkable really, a fan owned club who are so poor they were successful in applying for the second tranche of Covid money because without it they would have gone bust again.
And yet they've got a massive squad on big wages
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Isn't Chesterfield more local for him? This one has danger written all over it (the Oldham one never had legs); he'd be in League Two either this year or next.
However IF it happens - and I'd love him to stay - then I remind everyone of when we banked a fee for John Johnston and replaced him with Elliot Durell, Dan Mooney and Josh Lundstram on loan.
If selling up is what's required to allow us to regenerate and go another step, that's sadly what we have to do.
Is it more local?.....NO
I can assure you that Burslem to Knutsford is much easier than the journey to Chesterfield...albeit it can be done in an hour via Uttoxeter and Derby
Ah yeah, I think I knew it was Burslem actually. Fair enough, I know he used to be over Donny way didnt he.
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Isn't Chesterfield more local for him? This one has danger written all over it (the Oldham one never had legs); he'd be in League Two either this year or next.
However IF it happens - and I'd love him to stay - then I remind everyone of when we banked a fee for John Johnston and replaced him with Elliot Durell, Dan Mooney and Josh Lundstram on loan.
If selling up is what's required to allow us to regenerate and go another step, that's sadly what we have to do.
Is it more local?.....NO
I can assure you that Burslem to Knutsford is much easier than the journey to Chesterfield...albeit it can be done in an hour via Uttoxeter and Derby
Ah yeah, I think I knew it was Burslem actually. Fair enough, I know he used to be over Donny way didnt he.
I think that's when he was at SC**thorpe?
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I hadn't made the connection between Ryan and current Chesterfield manager Paul Cook.
He was the Wigan manager that agreed to take him off at half time to see the birth of his son (after scoring twice) when that story went viral a few years ago.
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I will be surprised if he is still at Alty by the end of this transfer window, if teams like Chesterfield come calling then I suppose he will have his head turned.. he would cope admirably in any team in this league.
Worth remembering there's no window for us and Chesterfield - they can take him whenever they want, and could have done previously.
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I will be surprised if he is still at Alty by the end of this transfer window, if teams like Chesterfield come calling then I suppose he will have his head turned.. he would cope admirably in any team in this league.
Worth remembering there's no window for us and Chesterfield - they can take him whenever they want, and could have done previously.
I don't think they'll want to pay a big fee but will probably be lining him up for next season - especially if they go up. I think they're playing the long game (hopefully) 😉
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Isn't Chesterfield more local for him? This one has danger written all over it (the Oldham one never had legs); he'd be in League Two either this year or next.
However IF it happens - and I'd love him to stay - then I remind everyone of when we banked a fee for John Johnston and replaced him with Elliot Durell, Dan Mooney and Josh Lundstram on loan.
If selling up is what's required to allow us to regenerate and go another step, that's sadly what we have to do.
Is it more local?.....NO
I can assure you that Burslem to Knutsford is much easier than the journey to Chesterfield...albeit it can be done in an hour via Uttoxeter and Derby
Not sure Ryan has passed his test.
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Isn't Chesterfield more local for him? This one has danger written all over it (the Oldham one never had legs); he'd be in League Two either this year or next.
However IF it happens - and I'd love him to stay - then I remind everyone of when we banked a fee for John Johnston and replaced him with Elliot Durell, Dan Mooney and Josh Lundstram on loan.
If selling up is what's required to allow us to regenerate and go another step, that's sadly what we have to do.
Is it more local?.....NO
I can assure you that Burslem to Knutsford is much easier than the journey to Chesterfield...albeit it can be done in an hour via Uttoxeter and Derby
Ah yeah, I think I knew it was Burslem actually. Fair enough, I know he used to be over Donny way didnt he.
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Yes not a bad journey over from Donny.....you are right, he was apparantly based there at one time
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I will be surprised if he is still at Alty by the end of this transfer window, if teams like Chesterfield come calling then I suppose he will have his head turned.. he would cope admirably in any team in this league.
Worth remembering there's no window for us and Chesterfield - they can take him whenever they want, and could have done previously.
However they have just got the FA Cup 3rd Round, and could be planning to bolster and catch Wrexham
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There is no guarentee in Chesterfield getting into the league in the next 2 seasons, so I would hope Ryan would be looking at a much better placed club; he is good enough.
But, as has been pointed out, money talks!
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Derbyshire Times says it is a done deal and talks about a debut on 21 Jan !!
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https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/sport/football/chesterfield-closing-in-on-first-signing-of-2023-from-national-league-rivals-3980934 (https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/sport/football/chesterfield-closing-in-on-first-signing-of-2023-from-national-league-rivals-3980934)
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Any chance of getting ccc on a permanent now ?
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Any chance of getting ccc on a permanent now ?
I expect Fleetwood would want to hang on to him. If so, let’s hope we can extend his loan until the end of this season.
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Derbyshire Times says it is a done deal and talks about a debut on 21 Jan !!
I think we were all expecting/dreading it. Very disappointing, to say the least, if true. 🙄
I still believe his best option would have been to wait till he was out of contract and secure a deal with a League club. He's deserving of so much better than Chesterfield.
We'll see. All the talk has come from the press upto now.
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Ryan is close to the Chesterfield manager so that could have a big part in him signing for them. Chesterfield are a decent club and Ryan will add a lot to their team, if he has gone then Good Luck to the bloke.
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One tweet says it's a done deal, and the news article cites it.
If it is a done deal I hope he has doubled his money, plays half as often, and has lined the club's pocket fairly.
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To be fair he has stayed longer than I thought he would and owes us nothing. Good luck to him.
We are however right up against it without him!
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We are however right up against it without him!
That's a real understatement 😕
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on face book,says deal done.
It sounds like they are fishing to me,as nothing on chesterfields or our website saying its be done.
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Won't he be cup tied in the FA Trophy? Not sure if Chesterfield are still in it. What if Chesterfield don't make the playoffs. Don't think we will either if we let him go, unless we replace him but I imagine there is no decent dribbler of similar standard. Wish we could find another Paul Showler!!
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Won't he be cup tied in the FA Trophy? Not sure if Chesterfield are still in it. What if Chesterfield don't make the playoffs. Don't think we will either if we let him go, unless we replace him but I imagine there is no decent dribbler of similar standard. Wish we could find another Paul Showler!!
They are out of the Trophy. Lost to Coalville.
I am not worried about not making the play-offs if we lose Ryan......more concerned about looking behind us without our best player
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Won't he be cup tied in the FA Trophy? Not sure if Chesterfield are still in it. What if Chesterfield don't make the playoffs. Don't think we will either if we let him go, unless we replace him but I imagine there is no decent dribbler of similar standard. Wish we could find another Paul Showler!!
They are out of the Trophy. Lost to Coalville.
I am not worried about not making the play-offs if we lose Ryan......more concerned about looking behind us without our best player
We have very specific examples of why that isn't likely to be the case - and indeed is the very model we're working to.
Firstly, he's not going to retire with us - maybe I see things differently to others, but I'd rather we banked a fee if he's told us he's not signing on next year (which is unlikely in the extreme). As long as we have Lundstram and Marriott in midfield, there's no way we'll be sucked into danger, whether we have Ryan or not.
Secondly, track record:
Sold Johnston - got stronger
Sold Hulme - got stronger
Sold Senior - got stronger
Might seem a bit ridiculously glass half full, but I'm excited to see what we can do with any proceeds of any hypothetical sale.
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Won't he be cup tied in the FA Trophy? Not sure if Chesterfield are still in it. What if Chesterfield don't make the playoffs. Don't think we will either if we let him go, unless we replace him but I imagine there is no decent dribbler of similar standard. Wish we could find another Paul Showler!!
They are out of the Trophy. Lost to Coalville.
I am not worried about not making the play-offs if we lose Ryan......more concerned about looking behind us without our best player
We have very specific examples of why that isn't likely to be the case - and indeed is the very model we're working to.
Firstly, he's not going to retire with us - maybe I see things differently to others, but I'd rather we banked a fee if he's told us he's not signing on next year (which is unlikely in the extreme). As long as we have Lundstram and Marriott in midfield, there's no way we'll be sucked into danger, whether we have Ryan or not.
Secondly, track record:
Sold Johnston - got stronger
Sold Hulme - got stronger
Sold Senior - got stronger
Might seem a bit ridiculously glass half full, but I'm excited to see what we can do with any proceeds of any hypothetical sale.
Unfortunately I am a glass half empty person, but you make good points
No problem if we get a decent fee for him.......it was always a catch-22 for us: lose a great player now for a decent fee or lose a greater player at season end for nowt.
I guess we are lucky that we have had him this long. He is a L1 player and was when we got him.
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I find myself usually in agreement with your posts but I think in this case you are being ridiculously glass-half-fullish mate.
Having said that, I sincerely hope you're right.
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Won't he be cup tied in the FA Trophy? Not sure if Chesterfield are still in it. What if Chesterfield don't make the playoffs. Don't think we will either if we let him go, unless we replace him but I imagine there is no decent dribbler of similar standard. Wish we could find another Paul Showler!!
They are out of the Trophy. Lost to Coalville.
I am not worried about not making the play-offs if we lose Ryan......more concerned about looking behind us without our best player
We have very specific examples of why that isn't likely to be the case - and indeed is the very model we're working to.
Firstly, he's not going to retire with us - maybe I see things differently to others, but I'd rather we banked a fee if he's told us he's not signing on next year (which is unlikely in the extreme). As long as we have Lundstram and Marriott in midfield, there's no way we'll be sucked into danger, whether we have Ryan or not.
Secondly, track record:
Sold Johnston - got stronger
Sold Hulme - got stronger
Sold Senior - got stronger
Might seem a bit ridiculously glass half full, but I'm excited to see what we can do with any proceeds of any hypothetical sale.
I’m not sure about Hulme as that was an odd season, other than to say we never replaced him.
We haven’t been remotely stronger since Senior left. It’s taken 12 months to sign a replacement left back for him!
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Hopefully the release fee in Ryan's contract (which must have been met) will allow us to sign a couple of experienced National League/League 2 replacements.
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Senior was a right back wasn't he?
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Hopefully the release fee in Ryan's contract (which must have been met) will allow us to sign a couple of experienced National League/League 2 replacements.
Rather have exciting younger wingers than experience, who have no legs.
Need one to be rapid, strong and direct to stretch teams and one who can interchange with our other forwards, like Newby.
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I'm impressed with everyone's optimism here but I'm struggling to find many positives with losing one of the most exciting players I've ever seen here. Especially at a point when the team was racing up the table.
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I'm impressed with everyone's optimism here but I'm struggling to find many positives with losing one of the most exciting players I've ever seen here. Especially at a point when the team was racing up the table.
My feelings exactly - as I have expressed elsewhere.
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I'm impressed with everyone's optimism here but I'm struggling to find many positives with losing one of the most exciting players I've ever seen here. Especially at a point when the team was racing up the table.
Couldn’t have put it better myself.
We must have irons in the fire here, surely to God?
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I'm impressed with everyone's optimism here but I'm struggling to find many positives with losing one of the most exciting players I've ever seen here. Especially at a point when the team was racing up the table.
Agree entirely.
As things stand, we face the prospect of starting February having lost Newby (four goals); Colclough (seven goals) and Conn-Clarke (eight goals, to date).
That leaves us with Dinanga (6 goals - three of which were scored against Gateshead and one came against ultra porous Dorking! Hasn't scored since 22nd October); Hulme (two goals); Jennings (one goal) and the elusive Kaja (one goal).
Our creative and goalscoring departments are going to need some very shrewd acquisitions ASAP.
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I'm impressed with everyone's optimism here but I'm struggling to find many positives with losing one of the most exciting players I've ever seen here. Especially at a point when the team was racing up the table.
Agree entirely.
As things stand, we face the prospect of starting February having lost Newby (four goals); Colclough (seven goals) and Conn-Clarke (eight goals, to date).
That leaves us with Dinanga (6 goals - three of which were scored against Gateshead and one came against ultra porous Dorking! Hasn't scored since 22nd October); Hulme (two goals); Jennings (one goal) and the elusive Kaja (one goal).
Our creative and goalscoring departments are going to need some very shrewd acquisitions ASAP.
I also agree .
We went full time for a reason surely ?
If players want to leave and we have offered parity on pay for the same league I fully get it and it's out of our control .
If we are losing a player for money to teams in the same league I can't see why we went full time.
I would rather retain a proven player in the hope of getting some cash and getting 2 more that collectively are not as good
In terms of Jordan I expressed that he was never a goal scorer not even at the level below when he returned
He is (when he is motivated to be) a great player but sadly lacks fitness and consistency
In terms of dinanga he would be great a level below
If we want to remain in the league and push on as a full time team we have to pay the wages as well to compete
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Sad if he does go of course, but perhaps inevitable - though let's wait and see, remember the odds being given on Phil Parkinson going to Notts? I seem to remember our other most exciting winger Paul Showler ending up at Bradford City who in 1992 were a similar proposition to the Chesterfield of today.
Purely conjecture, and we may never know the actual price if he does go, but didn't Wrexham sign a "League One" standard player for 300k? Even with only half a season left on his contract, surely Colclough could be worth a six figure fee (and sell-on clause). With the setup we have now, I am pretty certain there will be people they can bring in who will do a good job.
The team we had in December was possibly good enough to challenge for the play-offs, and credit to the management and staff for achieving this, but it was never the expectation that we would challenge for the play-offs this season - we are apparently in year two of a five year plan. I remain convinced that we will stay up this season however this plays out, which is surely the main priority. If we are in a strong financial position, we will have the opportunity to improve again next season.
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I remember the five year plan starting when we were in the Conference North
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Yes, there was some doubt about it. I seem to remember an article in the programme about it last season and assumed it was starting from last season. I think someone else said similar. However the board hasn't mentioned anything about it for some time to the best of my knowledge so it is hard to be certain. What we can be sure of is that if a five year plan was dated from the appointment of Parky, it was one of the best ever! In any case, if we can be challenging for the play-offs in a couple of years, I think we'll be doing alright. Earlier this season, people would have been happy just to stay up, and if we could finish 11th to secure our best finish post-Maunders, that would be fantastic for me.
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We'll find it difficult to finish 11th without a decent forward line.
If Colclough goes the (hopeful) incomers need to be significant.
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Do you think he will go? It was presented as a done deal this morning but still no word, suggesting at the least that we are holding out for a good deal, and in glass half full mode that it may end up as one of those non-stories like "Parky to Chesterfield". Oh well, perhaps we'll know by tomorrow, and as I say I'm sure the board will do their very best for the club. On reflection, compared to some of the situations we've been in post-Maunders, this isn't such a bad one, i.e. will we sell a player for maybe 50 or 100k - or will we keep a "league one" standard player for the rest of the season?
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We'll find it difficult to finish 11th without a decent forward line.
If Colclough goes the (hopeful) incomers need to be significant.
Parky has brought in a stream of quality wide men over the last few years think Ginnelly , Dale , Mooney , Coleclough , Newby . I back him to once again bring in good quality replacements . Whoever they may be , getting like for like for Ryan is well nigh impossible because he's been the best wide man i've ever seen in an Alty shirt .
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Of course I would hate to see Ryan go....
However, we are lucky to have kept him this long and Ryan has to also think of his future (£££) - an area where we cannot compete with the big boys, even in this league.
Ryan is good enough for a higher league and I would be very disappointed in him if he stayed in the same league with far from any guarantee of promotion!
IF he does go he has done Alty proud and I wish him well.
With Jackson going out on loan I hope that Kaja has regained fitness and that Parkie has irons in the fire.
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I'm impressed with everyone's optimism here but I'm struggling to find many positives with losing one of the most exciting players I've ever seen here. Especially at a point when the team was racing up the table.
Agree entirely.
As things stand, we face the prospect of starting February having lost Newby (four goals); Colclough (seven goals) and Conn-Clarke (eight goals, to date).
That leaves us with Dinanga (6 goals - three of which were scored against Gateshead and one came against ultra porous Dorking! Hasn't scored since 22nd October); Hulme (two goals); Jennings (one goal) and the elusive Kaja (one goal).
Our creative and goalscoring departments are going to need some very shrewd acquisitions ASAP.
I also agree .
We went full time for a reason surely ?
If players want to leave and we have offered parity on pay for the same league I fully get it and it's out of our control .
If we are losing a player for money to teams in the same league I can't see why we went full time.
I would rather retain a proven player in the hope of getting some cash and getting 2 more that collectively are not as good
In terms of Jordan I expressed that he was never a goal scorer not even at the level below when he returned
He is (when he is motivated to be) a great player but sadly lacks fitness and consistency
In terms of dinanga he would be great a level below
If we want to remain in the league and push on as a full time team we have to pay the wages as well to compete
Did you think that going full time would mean we could compete with Chesterfield? Seriously?
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I tend to agree re what Swindellsworth says about Colclough being unmatched here; but to be honest I thought Paul Showler was also as good, if not marginally better. Good wingers are few and far between to be honest nowadays, but Phil would not let Ryan go without a back-up plan. Ryan suited our style of play, but I reckon Phil will already have plans to cover this eventuality.
I did enjoy watching Ryan Colclough play, he was one of the reasons why I switched from behind the goal to the front of the CSH. You get a direct view of him in the second half, right in front of you. I will miss him if he does go, but nothing official from either club, and I hope he is on the teamsheet for Wrexham on Friday. We stood by him when he needed it when he first joined us.
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I never said we could compete with bigger clubs, I'm just expressing disappointment at losing our best player.
Something surely we all feel.
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I'm impressed with everyone's optimism here but I'm struggling to find many positives with losing one of the most exciting players I've ever seen here. Especially at a point when the team was racing up the table.
Agree entirely.
As things stand, we face the prospect of starting February having lost Newby (four goals); Colclough (seven goals) and Conn-Clarke (eight goals, to date).
That leaves us with Dinanga (6 goals - three of which were scored against Gateshead and one came against ultra porous Dorking! Hasn't scored since 22nd October); Hulme (two goals); Jennings (one goal) and the elusive Kaja (one goal).
Our creative and goalscoring departments are going to need some very shrewd acquisitions ASAP.
I also agree .
We went full time for a reason surely ?
If players want to leave and we have offered parity on pay for the same league I fully get it and it's out of our control .
If we are losing a player for money to teams in the same league I can't see why we went full time.
I would rather retain a proven player in the hope of getting some cash and getting 2 more that collectively are not as good
In terms of Jordan I expressed that he was never a goal scorer not even at the level below when he returned
He is (when he is motivated to be) a great player but sadly lacks fitness and consistency
In terms of dinanga he would be great a level below
If we want to remain in the league and push on as a full time team we have to pay the wages as well to compete
Did you think that going full time would mean we could compete with Chesterfield? Seriously?
Certainly whisphers around that we can, and could, but there are other factors at play.
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Surely we couldn't match them for wages let alone tranfer fees
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Surely we couldn't match them for wages let alone tranfernfees
Of course we couldn't.
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Surely we couldn't match them for wages let alone tranfernfees
Of course we couldn't.
But we dont need a transfer fee, just wages, and therefore we're probably £1k a week higher (50k over 50 weeks) Surely we couldn't match them for wages let alone tranfernfees
Of course we couldn't.
You dont need to pay a transfer fee to keep a player.
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Surely we couldn't match them for wages let alone tranfernfees
Of course we couldn't.
But we dont need a transfer fee, just wages, and therefore we're probably £1k a week higher (50k over 50 weeks) Surely we couldn't match them for wages let alone tranfernfees
Of course we couldn't.
You dont need to pay a transfer fee to keep a player.
exactly this and let's say for the rest of the season it's 1k a week for 15 weeks that's a good investment to secure safety for another season and the attributed benefits
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Factor in though any signing on fee for the player from the new club, the bonus structure, expenses etc. Factor in also a hefty fee we would get that could go into future squad wages moving forward which we wouldn't have got if we'd hung on until the summer. Then you've got the player's own motivation and ambition. It's a lot more complex than an extra grand a week to solve it all.
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You can’t pay every player their current transfer value spread over a season in wages. You end up buying every player multiple times. And if you do it for one then the rest want the same. It blows the clubs wage structure apart.
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Factor in though any signing on fee for the player from the new club, the bonus structure, expenses etc. Factor in also a hefty fee we would get that could go into future squad wages moving forward which we wouldn't have got if we'd hung on until the summer. Then you've got the player's own motivation and ambition. It's a lot more complex than an extra grand a week to solve it all.
I think I noted above if a player wants to go for money or any other reason you have to let them go
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You can’t pay every player their current transfer value spread over a season in wages. You end up buying every player multiple times. And if you do it for one then the rest want the same. It blows the clubs wage structure apart.
I imagine coco is already paid more than anyone else already
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I'm sorry but this thread has gone absolutely insane.
Glad we're not in charge of the club, as we'd have gone bust many times over.
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I thought it was quite a decent topic being discussed from various points of view to be honest
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The suggestion of paying him an extra grand a week - just until the end of the season when he buggers off anyway - is possibly the most bonkers thing I've ever read on this forum (and there's been some contenders to that title over the years).
Going back to the JJ scenario - imagine we'd offered him an improved contract instead of banking a fee and using the proceeds to sign Durell, Mooney and Lundstram (on loan)?
Other benefits could include a potential sell on - just in case he absolutely smashes it with them over 12 months and gets an even bigger move.
I know it's hard to let go, but this will happen more and more often as we continue to be successful.
There is always a correct time to sell - and as much as I'd be delighted if he stays, I'd totally understand if he didn't - and I'd back the management to keep moving us forward.
If we do eventually get promoted out of this league, it won't be with Ryan Colclough in our ranks - but tough decisions we take along the way will get us there.
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We’ve lost better in my time watching. Invest on promotion winners like we did when JJ went for a fee, no one has died
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Is it just me that has no idea what wages are paid to the players?
From reading the comments on here I'm assuming everyone else has full access to the Club's accounts!
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Is it just me that has no idea what wages are paid to the players?
From reading the comments on here I'm assuming everyone else has full access to the Club's accounts!
Yes. It's just you. We all know but we're not telling you.
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I thought it was quite a decent topic being discussed from various points of view to be honest
No, you've misunderstood. You either agree with everything Marple Alty says or you're clearly in some way mentally deficient. To be honest, you're lucky he didn't deploy the crazy face emoji on you.
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I thought it was quite a decent topic being discussed from various points of view to be honest
No, you've misunderstood. You either agree with everything Marple Alty says or you're clearly in some way mentally deficient. To be honest, you're lucky he didn't deploy the crazy face emoji on you.
thank you for putting me back on the straight and narrow . This probably shows why I only post on threads related to Chris senior and winter breaks
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We'll find it difficult to finish 11th without a decent forward line.
If Colclough goes the (hopeful) incomers need to be significant.
Parky has brought in a stream of quality wide men over the last few years think Ginnelly , Dale , Mooney , Coleclough , Newby . I back him to once again bring in good quality replacements . Whoever they may be , getting like for like for Ryan is well nigh impossible because he's been the best wide man i've ever seen in an Alty shirt .
Josh Ginnelly was brought to Alty on loan in January 2016 by Lee Sinnott.
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Blimey was it that long ago , apologies 🤢
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I thought it was quite a decent topic being discussed from various points of view to be honest
No, you've misunderstood. You either agree with everything Marple Alty says or you're clearly in some way mentally deficient. To be honest, you're lucky he didn't deploy the crazy face emoji on you.
We're all entitled to our opinions! I've been wrong on plenty of occasions, it's good to be self aware after all.
It is my opinion that paying someone an extra £1k a week to leave for nothing anyway is ridiculous in a season where we're extremely unlikely to be in the playoffs nor relegated.
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I thought it was quite a decent topic being discussed from various points of view to be honest
No, you've misunderstood. You either agree with everything Marple Alty says or you're clearly in some way mentally deficient. To be honest, you're lucky he didn't deploy the crazy face emoji on you.
We're all entitled to our opinions! I've been wrong on plenty of occasions, it's good to be self aware after all.
It is my opinion that paying someone an extra £1k a week to leave for nothing anyway is ridiculous in a season where we're extremely unlikely to be in the playoffs nor relegated.
You said the thread had gone insane it seemed quite balanced to that point .
I totally agree it's all about opinions we will never agree nor should we have too.
I'll miss him when he goes he's been a legend and stayed much longer than I imagined he would
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I thought it was quite a decent topic being discussed from various points of view to be honest
No, you've misunderstood. You either agree with everything Marple Alty says or you're clearly in some way mentally deficient. To be honest, you're lucky he didn't deploy the crazy face emoji on you.
We're all entitled to our opinions! I've been wrong on plenty of occasions, it's good to be self aware after all.
It is my opinion that paying someone an extra £1k a week to leave for nothing anyway is ridiculous in a season where we're extremely unlikely to be in the playoffs nor relegated.
You said the thread had gone insane it seemed quite balanced to that point .
I totally agree it's all about opinions we will never agree nor should we have too.
I'll miss him when he goes he's been a legend and stayed much longer than I imagined he would
Quite. Self-awareness only extends so far, it seems.
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I see on Chesterfield twitter feed they have released two players this morning who only signed in the summer one been a winger,is there a cash and swap deal on here in exchange for Ryan?
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I see on Chesterfield twitter feed they have released two players this morning who only signed in the summer one been a winger,is there a cash and swap deal on here in exchange for Ryan?
George Cooper? 26,born in Warrington and came through the academy at Crewe.
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There needs to be someone brought in. If we don't have any decent attackers it won't be much fun as a spectator.
Other calls on my time will become easier to justify. I would guess that a lot of the non-hardcore support will feel the same.
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https://twitter.com/ChesterfieldFC/status/1613540064180539393
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https://twitter.com/ChesterfieldFC/status/1613540064180539393
No doubt its Colclough
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https://twitter.com/ChesterfieldFC/status/1613540064180539393
No doubt its Colclough
Yep the voice is a giveaway. Let’s just hope the club has got a good deal for the lad, I shall miss Ryan. Now we hope Phil has a plan.
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i really HATE chesterfield
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Was going to go but should have been a league side.
Chesterfield, come on!!!! not sure it’s much of a step up to be honest.
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To my mind, this is rather like York City (or whoever) saying in 1974-5 that their player should have gone to a first division club rather than Manchester United. Historically, Chesterfield (and the Shrimpers among others for that matter) are ridiculously big for this level, and in addition Chesterfield have a massive cup match coming up, plus a manager with a previous connection to Colclough. If he'd gone to Oldham, I might have questioned it, but Chesterfield - fair enough. As has been pointed out, we sold a player to Chester "City" and came out alright in the end, so I trust the board, and Colclough for that matter.
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He's probably doubled his wages at least and will have a substantial length of contract so will have secured his and his family's future. How could anyone blame him for that? Plus although I feel Chesterfield are third favourites to go up, they've still got a very good shot at it. He could actually make the difference for them.
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Was going to go but should have been a league side.
Chesterfield, come on!!!! not sure it’s much of a step up to be honest.
With respect it’s a very big step up. This is a club who should have beaten West Brom last Saturday in front of 10,000 at their own ground. To me their natural level is League 1 & likely come May they’ll just need to win 1 game at home to go to Wembley for the play off final. Absolutely can’t begrudge Ryan taking this chance & I’m amazed looking back we managed to keep him for just over 2 years. If it was lose him on a free in summer or get a decent fee now & he wanted to go then you have to say his departure was inevitable.
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He's probably doubled his wages at least and will have a substantial length of contract so will have secured his and his family's future. How could anyone blame him for that? Plus although I feel Chesterfield are third favourites to go up, they've still got a very good shot at it. He could actually make the difference for them.
I thought I saw he had signed an 18 month contract at Chesterfield, so it may not set him up for life, but it will certainly help, and I can't blame him for going.
We did him a favour by signing him when he had certain off-field problems, but he repaid that by signing a longer contract with us meaning we get some compensation, so I will wish him all the best, apart from a certain game in a couple of weeks. His influence of the field of play has been huge, so, yes he just might make the difference for Chesterfield.
Meanwhile, I trust and hope that Phil Parkinson has plans for this likely eventuality.
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He's probably doubled his wages at least and will have a substantial length of contract so will have secured his and his family's future. How could anyone blame him for that? Plus although I feel Chesterfield are third favourites to go up, they've still got a very good shot at it. He could actually make the difference for them.
I'm not convinced he's doubled his wages. He was likely paid substantial wages here and Chesterfield have.a big sqaud
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They will go up automatically with Wrexham after Notts County slip up
Should have beaten WBA and played Chelsea in last seasons cup
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I see on Chesterfield twitter feed they have released two players this morning who only signed in the summer one been a winger,is there a cash and swap deal on here in exchange for Ryan?
George Cooper? 26,born in Warrington and came through the academy at Crewe.
A good pedigree, but has injury problems! (Yes, I had the same idea!)
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Meanwhile, I wish Ryan well and thank him for being a credit to the club.
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I see on Chesterfield twitter feed they have released two players this morning who only signed in the summer one been a winger,is there a cash and swap deal on here in exchange for Ryan?
George Cooper? 26,born in Warrington and came through the academy at Crewe.
A good pedigree, but has injury problems! (Yes, I had the same idea!)
I believe he was the one that vacated the number 10 shirt to make way for Ryan (I thought only one person could wear a number in a season, but clearly not).
Clearly the lad has talent, however I'd be very reluctant to take the risk of having another Egli Kaja on our hands.
I think I'd much rather try to get Bennett back (particularly if he's out of contract at the end of the season?) - and ask Fleetwood if we can develop another one of their players, with the left-footed Baggley being a potential shout cutting in off that right hand flank. Oh, and CCC until the end of the season.
Not asking for much!