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Title: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on October 19, 2022, 12:35:59 PM
Become a bigger game than it was this time last week. Whether we were better than Gateshead or not they bungled us out of the fa cup 2 years on the bounce. Individual errors, poor team tactics, poor finishing have raised questions of where we're at. In the sh*t imho.

                              Byrne

Barrows.  J. Jones. Cooper.   E. Jones

              Osbourne.     Lundstram

     Hulme.    Conn-Clarke.    Colclough

                       Dinanga

Torquay 2-2 Alty. (Dinanga, Conn-Clarke)

I think the above 11 is good enough to beat a poor Torquay side, but the amount of individual errors we make is killing us.

Good luck to all who travel

     
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Thomas H on October 19, 2022, 01:18:43 PM
I reckon there are 3 or 4 players in that team that need to up their game to win away at Torquay
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on October 19, 2022, 05:02:50 PM
We need a fit and healthy Colclough back. Hopefully he will be well enough for Saturday.

We’re travelling to watch this so hopefully the lads will put in a decent shift and get 3 points

Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 20, 2022, 08:02:49 AM
We need a CB pulling in ASAP.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: FromAltyToAshford on October 20, 2022, 08:59:05 AM
We need a CB pulling in ASAP.
Which feels odd after we started the season with a back four made up entirely of centre backs...
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 21, 2022, 10:05:11 AM
We need a CB pulling in ASAP.
Which feels odd after we started the season with a back four made up entirely of centre backs...

It tells me we've been unfortunate.

The good news is that Toby says there's no fracture - so hopefully it's just a matter of waiting for the wound to heal.

Given we've beaten two stronger Torquay sides these past two seasons, footballing logic dictates this one will be an abject 2-0 defeat.

I don't make the rules (sorry).
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on October 21, 2022, 10:14:43 AM
Another big game, not easy, especially with the injuries and defensive frailties we endure. If Ryan can start, that will help. CB's pick themselves unfortunately with Baines and Mullarky likely out. Can see Brad coming in at RB. Maybe Gould in goal.

Hopefully a win, but think it will be 1-1
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 21, 2022, 11:34:48 AM
We need a CB pulling in ASAP.
Which feels odd after we started the season with a back four made up entirely of centre backs...

It tells me we've been unfortunate.

The good news is that Toby says there's no fracture - so hopefully it's just a matter of waiting for the wound to heal.

Given we've beaten two stronger Torquay sides these past two seasons, footballing logic dictates this one will be an abject 2-0 defeat.

I don't make the rules (sorry).

The number of injuries isn't a coincidence with us going FT, we have become weaker off the pitch with the loss of Tommy and Ryan.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on October 21, 2022, 07:23:22 PM
I hope the team travelled down today, the M5 is murder. Full of 1/2 term brats heading south for a week in Devon or cornwall plus the roadworks. We left home at 11-30 am just checked in to our hotel @ 6-30pm. What a f:/: nightmare trip that was, the good thing is the hotel is about a five min walk from the ground.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on October 22, 2022, 10:59:24 AM
have just looked on the torquay united site and it looks like 39 away fans in that stand(away end looks like it is shut again)
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Bangor on Dee Robin on October 22, 2022, 11:14:57 AM
The boys will lift our spirits with a 3-1 win, Colclough, Hulme & Dinanga.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on October 22, 2022, 03:49:49 PM
Weather here is wet and breezy. Just the sort of weather the northerners relish.

3-1 to The Alty
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 22, 2022, 04:39:27 PM
I remember when England tried to crowbar Rooney into every team, even when it didn't make sense to.

I hope we're not making the same mistake with Jordan.

Obviously I'm not sure on Brad Jackson's fitness status but why wouldn't you try to play a team closest to the one that brought you 3 wins in 4 games?
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 22, 2022, 05:45:32 PM
Shocking decision to give Dinanga, someone that struggles given time to think about things, that penalty over Ryan Colclough.

I'll be fuming if that ends up costing us.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on October 22, 2022, 06:13:22 PM
Ryan should always take pens, we should have put this game to bed by now
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: JD on October 22, 2022, 06:19:09 PM
Become a bigger game than it was this time last week. Whether we were better than Gateshead or not they bungled us out of the fa cup 2 years on the bounce. Individual errors, poor team tactics, poor finishing have raised questions of where we're at. In the sh*t imho.

                              Byrne

Barrows.  J. Jones. Cooper.   E. Jones

              Osbourne.     Lundstram

     Hulme.    Conn-Clarke.    Colclough

                       Dinanga

Torquay 2-2 Alty. (Dinanga, Conn-Clarke)

I think the above 11 is good enough to beat a poor Torquay side, but the amount of individual errors we make is killing us.

Good luck to all who travel

   

Right so far!
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 22, 2022, 06:26:09 PM
...and there we have it. Straight after half time.

I swear to God if we end up throwing this away...
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: JD on October 22, 2022, 06:29:12 PM
...and there we have it. Straight after half time.

I swear to God if we end up throwing this away...

Indeed!
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: finnquark1 on October 22, 2022, 06:49:41 PM
Absurd.

Edit to add: pathetic.

Edit to add: amazing hahahaha

Edit to add: possibly not the right time for Jackson to try running the ball out of our half.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 22, 2022, 06:55:03 PM
Have we strung two passes together this second half?

Why didn't we freshen things up earlier?
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 22, 2022, 06:59:02 PM
This is the lowest I've felt in a long time.

How?
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 22, 2022, 07:08:14 PM
This football club is going to kill me.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: JD on October 22, 2022, 07:21:50 PM
When you have that much pressure in the first half you have to kill the game.
Why did Colc not take the pen?

Same old defensive frailties.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Thomas H on October 22, 2022, 07:24:18 PM
Dinanga off and we play better if it wasn’t for stupid foul by the underperforming Osbourne we would have got that win.
We should have been 4 up at half time but for Dinanga.
Dreadful
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on October 22, 2022, 07:24:38 PM
Massive 3 points dropped.
Dinanga scored but was poor in the game. Colclough should be taking pens.
Still very much boys mentality in games. Need to sort sh*t out.
Once Marriott, Toby and Baines are fit we need to f**k Osborne and James Jones off. That pointless foul by Osborne at the end, when we had cover, was terrible. He is such a basic player, prefer an ageing Moult.
Concentration after HT needs to be sorted. Maybe a warm up or better team talk before they come out.
We need to be starting Kaja, even unfit, strong player who is direct.
Really was 3 points lost. My ticker can't deal with Alty.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on October 22, 2022, 07:25:34 PM
Dinanga off and we play better if it wasn’t for stupid foul by the underperforming Osbourne we would have got that win.
We should have been 4 up at half time but for Dinanga.
Dreadful

Correct. Osborne isn't good enough.
Get Marriott back and he will be a squad player and should be.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: finnquark1 on October 22, 2022, 07:28:52 PM
We're so naive it's absurd. From the 94th minute onwards, Colclough gave them the ball back from a free in the corner, Colclough shot from 25 yards, Osborne committed that utterly brain dead foul and Jackson decided to dribble it out instead if hoofing it. Its just mindless and naive and it happens all the time. And for all the talk about a young, transitioning team, errors are being made all over the pitch by young and experienced alike.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 22, 2022, 07:31:24 PM
We're so naive it's absurd. From the 94th minute onwards, Colclough gave them the ball back from a free in the corner, Colclough shot from 25 yards, Osborne committed that utterly brain dead foul and Jackson decided to dribble it out instead if hoofing it. Its just mindless and naive and it happens all the time. And for all the talk about a young, transitioning team, errors are being made all over the pitch by young and experienced alike.

Yep it's basic stuff. Keep it in the corner, don't commit needless fouls - and put your foot through it.

Objects of our own downfall.

The mentality issue summed up by being booked for timewasting after 55 minutes when we should be aiming to put the game to bed.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: AltyNotFaulty on October 22, 2022, 07:45:14 PM
Become a bigger game than it was this time last week. Whether we were better than Gateshead or not they bungled us out of the fa cup 2 years on the bounce. Individual errors, poor team tactics, poor finishing have raised questions of where we're at. In the sh*t imho.

                              Byrne

Barrows.  J. Jones. Cooper.   E. Jones

              Osbourne.     Lundstram

     Hulme.    Conn-Clarke.    Colclough

                       Dinanga

Torquay 2-2 Alty. (Dinanga, Conn-Clarke)

I think the above 11 is good enough to beat a poor Torquay side, but the amount of individual errors we make is killing us.

Good luck to all who travel

   

Right so far!

A defensive display that will see us fighting for survival unless we get players back and fast! I hope the avoidance of the question from PP is not a long lay off for Toby. Ryan on pens please and we still need a striker…. Dinanga may of scored 6 in 6 but he should of scored 12 in 6 with the chances he has been presented with. 2 big games now and I wouldn’t be surprised if we will be where we are now in a weeks time! Toby, Baines, Kossy, Marriot… we need you!
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Nom de plume on October 22, 2022, 07:45:46 PM
But they’re a great bunch of lads……..stay on after training……..team spirit is magnificent….

YAWN FKN YAWN

Can we have some talent please?

I don’t even mind being the first to call for the manager’s head. He’s out of his depth, promoted beyond his capabilities - we’ve all worked for someone like that.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: jhcorbett on October 22, 2022, 07:51:02 PM
It was mad yes, but given we were losing on 85 mins it could have been worse!
They were awful first half, we were awful second half (at least until we went 3-2 down anyway).
First half was a good reaction to a bad cup exit in midweek. We should have been 4-0 up at HT.
We've been crap at penalties for years, it predates Marcus and Parky by a long way (I know Ryan scored one in a home win a few weeks ago btw).

Second half they got an early goal and we struggled to make two passes. It seemed like we had 8 men.
Couldn't believe it when we went 4-3 up. Second half we were mostly out of it. Pleased for Jordan who took his goal very well, good to have him back in the goals.
Agree about the schoolboy errors that cost us their late goals.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on October 22, 2022, 07:51:48 PM
Become a bigger game than it was this time last week. Whether we were better than Gateshead or not they bungled us out of the fa cup 2 years on the bounce. Individual errors, poor team tactics, poor finishing have raised questions of where we're at. In the sh*t imho.

                              Byrne

Barrows.  J. Jones. Cooper.   E. Jones

              Osbourne.     Lundstram

     Hulme.    Conn-Clarke.    Colclough

                       Dinanga

Torquay 2-2 Alty. (Dinanga, Conn-Clarke)

I think the above 11 is good enough to beat a poor Torquay side, but the amount of individual errors we make is killing us.

Good luck to all who travel

   

Right so far!

A defensive display that will see us fighting for survival unless we get players back and fast! I hope the avoidance of the question from PP is not a long lay off for Toby. Ryan on pens please and we still need a striker…. Dinanga may of scored 6 in 6 but he should of scored 12 in 6 with the chances he has been presented with. 2 big games now and I wouldn’t be surprised if we will be where we are now in a weeks time! Toby, Baines, Kossy, Marriot… we need you!

Those 4 players will be massive for us but will take time to get fit. Also includes Kaja, who would be an asset if we can keep him fit.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: AltyRobin on October 22, 2022, 07:52:02 PM
2-0 up at half time and dominating. We need to see games off. 4-0 at half time wouldn’t have flattered us. What does Parky tell them at half time??

Time to go Parky. Thanks for everything but you are taking us backwards now.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on October 22, 2022, 07:58:29 PM
2-0 up at half time and dominating. We need to see games off. 4-0 at half time wouldn’t have flattered us. What does Parky tell them at half time??

Time to go Parky. Thanks for everything but you are taking us backwards now.

Hes got loads of credit in the bank far too early for that
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: swindellsworth on October 22, 2022, 08:06:21 PM
The moment Osborne gave that stupid free kick away i could honestly see the goal coming , keep your heads and just see the game out for gods sake . The loyal travelling fans deserved better .
 
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 22, 2022, 08:07:30 PM
2-0 up at half time and dominating. We need to see games off. 4-0 at half time wouldn’t have flattered us. What does Parky tell them at half time??

Time to go Parky. Thanks for everything but you are taking us backwards now.

Don't be so bloody daft.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on October 22, 2022, 08:12:48 PM
Osborne is a decent player at this level, but he has a massive fuk up in him. Whether is a shocking pass or brain dead foul. Either way he'll be no where near the starting 11 when Marriott returns.

Unfortunately it will be too late to save us
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: jhcorbett on October 22, 2022, 08:12:57 PM
2-0 up at half time and dominating. We need to see games off. 4-0 at half time wouldn’t have flattered us. What does Parky tell them at half time??

Time to go Parky. Thanks for everything but you are taking us backwards now.

Don't be so bloody daft.

Hear hear
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 22, 2022, 08:16:30 PM
2-0 up at half time and dominating. We need to see games off. 4-0 at half time wouldn’t have flattered us. What does Parky tell them at half time??

Time to go Parky. Thanks for everything but you are taking us backwards now.

Don't be so bloody daft.

You okay with us makijg some signing, or shall the 45 who bothered to go need to make another stupidnlong journey before signings come in
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: im not really here on October 22, 2022, 08:18:58 PM
2-0 up at half time and dominating. We need to see games off. 4-0 at half time wouldn’t have flattered us. What does Parky tell them at half time??

Time to go Parky. Thanks for everything but you are taking us backwards now.

How ridiculous? Described as the best manager in the league by Adam Virgo. Apart from anything else, how do you propose we pay up the remaining 20 months of his contract?
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on October 22, 2022, 08:24:55 PM
I'm trying to get my head round BT Sport selecting Cooper as Man of the Match. Perhaps they thought his goal outbalanced
his involvement (or lack of it) in the goals we conceded. In his defence however, Jones should be helping bring Cooper along, not the other way round.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on October 22, 2022, 08:43:47 PM
Thought it a good game,which we should have won,but that would have been unfair on torquay for their second half performance,we could have been 4- or 5 up by halftime,but let them dominate the second 38 minutes.they had some very good strikes and that asa hall always does well against us.Marcus looked tired in the second half.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on October 22, 2022, 08:44:24 PM
I'm trying to get my head round BT Sport selecting Cooper as Man of the Match. Perhaps they thought his goal outbalanced
his involvement (or lack of it) in the goals we conceded. In his defence however, Jones should be helping bring Cooper along, not the other way round.

Do you think cooper was are biggest problem?
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on October 22, 2022, 08:51:50 PM
We need some experience in this team, when things start to go pear shape heads drop and panic sets in.

 Olly Byrne .. stop berating players every time you concede a goal. Stay behind after trg for a week and try and to improve your kicking. It’s not as bad as Tommos but it’s catching him up.

I did have a shout to Parky after the whistle and questioned his wisdom of letting Dinanga take a pen.
I’m sick of hearing how good people think Dinanga is, he f**ked the pen up. He may have scored 6 or 7 goals but how many has he missed because he has no spacial awareness or anticipation, he shies out of 50 50 balls..his upper body strength needs massive attention, he cannot hold off anybody. I wouldn’t mind seeing him going back on loan..

Stop pissing about passing the ball backwards, we gave up territorial advantage too many times tonight.

Subs should have been on earlier,  That game should been over after 45 Mins.

I have to say, Oldham will beat us on Tuesday night, they will be far too savvy for us.

Get some hard bastards in the team with experience. Try to persuade Ferguson to comeback.

Hanson said you can’t win anything with kids, the way things are going, we are going to prove him right.

I bet the M5 will be chocker when we go back home tomorrow… That will just about round the weekend off

Pissed off from Shrewsbury.

PS prove me wrong on Tuesday

Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: whiskyalty on October 22, 2022, 09:20:41 PM
Are our players scared of heading the ball seen it all season when we are one on one with the opposition player we always lose out and other times don't even challenge for it lost count how many times it happened tonight
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on October 22, 2022, 09:31:51 PM
I'm trying to get my head round BT Sport selecting Cooper as Man of the Match. Perhaps they thought his goal outbalanced
his involvement (or lack of it) in the goals we conceded. In his defence however, Jones should be helping bring Cooper along, not the other way round.

Do you think cooper was are biggest problem?

No, but MoM ? Come on ! I thought my post made it clear that James Jones was the bigger problem at the back, but the BIGGEST problem was the performance of Osborne. He's nowhere near what we need him to be.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on October 22, 2022, 09:36:08 PM
Are our players scared of heading the ball seen it all season when we are one on one with the opposition player we always lose out and other times don't even challenge for it lost count how many times it happened tonight

During his spell with us, Kyle Ferguson had an 87% success rate with headed clearances, and it was the best tally in the league according to NLP. He may not be playing for Harrogate at the moment, but he's regularly on the bench, so unfortunately I don't fancy our chances of borrowing him.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 22, 2022, 09:38:23 PM


Well, what can you say about that game?
A real gamut of emotions experienced there.

Definitely two points dropped, in my eyes.

Torquay were utterly inept during that first half and we should have been at least five goals ahead.

Dinanga is just so profligate and I remain bemused as to why he took that penalty in lieu of Colclough.

Our second-half capitulation was so inevitable.
Fragile mentality and countless errors.

I simply do not rate Osborne (I was screaming at him for that brainless foul near to the end) and James Jones seemed to be all over the place (he appeared to be involved in a heated argument with Pringle after the final whistle).

I look forward to hearing Parkinson's analysis.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on October 22, 2022, 09:51:05 PM
Young lads don’t seem to have any aggression in their game nowadays it’s basically a non contact academy type football. I appreciate the game has changed but there is still room for a solid tackle when required. Half these lads go off the pitch at the end of a game with there kit as clean as it was at kickoff
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: AltyRobin on October 22, 2022, 09:54:59 PM
2-0 up at half time and dominating. We need to see games off. 4-0 at half time wouldn’t have flattered us. What does Parky tell them at half time??

Time to go Parky. Thanks for everything but you are taking us backwards now.

How ridiculous? Described as the best manager in the league by Adam Virgo. Apart from anything else, how do you propose we pay up the remaining 20 months of his contract?

I’m shocked you think Adam Virgo’s opinion on non league football means anything. If you’re happy drawing a game that you’re 2-0 up in half way through, have hit that bar and had a penalty saved with your goalkeeper having saved 1 shot at goal then our footballing ambitions are miles apart
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on October 22, 2022, 10:13:56 PM
We're so naive it's absurd. From the 94th minute onwards, Colclough gave them the ball back from a free in the corner, Colclough shot from 25 yards, Osborne committed that utterly brain dead foul and Jackson decided to dribble it out instead if hoofing it. Its just mindless and naive and it happens all the time. And for all the talk about a young, transitioning team, errors are being made all over the pitch by young and experienced alike.

This is the best summary of that disastrous sequence at the end. From front to back the players game management collectively was a shambles at the death. Absolutely barmy that we can score 4 goals away from home, ‘win’ the game twice and still only come away with a point. Torquay let’s be clear were absolutely garbage as well. We should have been minimum 3 goals up at HT. Why Colclough didn’t take the penalty too, no idea.


To try & be positive that’s a side in the relegation zone who haven’t gained on us today & we now look a real threat going forward. Tuesday night coming soon and being a big local derby is I think just what the players need.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: im not really here on October 22, 2022, 10:56:43 PM
2-0 up at half time and dominating. We need to see games off. 4-0 at half time wouldn’t have flattered us. What does Parky tell them at half time??

Time to go Parky. Thanks for everything but you are taking us backwards now.

How ridiculous? Described as the best manager in the league by Adam Virgo. Apart from anything else, how do you propose we pay up the remaining 20 months of his contract?

I’m shocked you think Adam Virgo’s opinion on non league football means anything. If you’re happy drawing a game that you’re 2-0 up in half way through, have hit that bar and had a penalty saved with your goalkeeper having saved 1 shot at goal then our footballing ambitions are miles apart

Merely pointing out highly rated Phil is .Sacking Phil is not the answer, giving him some money and time to strengthen and work on the training pitch is the right approach imo. I would suggest our ambitions for the club are the same as Phils and the board - we want the club to be successful.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: swindellsworth on October 22, 2022, 11:07:14 PM


Well, what can you say about that game?
A real gamut of emotions experienced there.

Definitely two points dropped, in my eyes.

Torquay were utterly inept during that first half and we should have been at least five goals ahead.

Dinanga is just so profligate and I remain bemused as to why he took that penalty in lieu of Colclough.

Our second-half capitulation was so inevitable.
Fragile mentality and countless errors.

I simply do not rate Osborne (I was screaming at him for that brainless foul near to the end) and James Jones seemed to be all over the place (he appeared to be involved in a heated argument with Pringle after the final whistle).

I look forward to hearing Parkinson's analysis.
   Totally agree about Osborne and i fail to see why some rate him so much .  He reminds me of Conor Branson from a few years back , another massive underperformer .
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on October 23, 2022, 09:35:40 AM
Just about to make the trip back. 800 odd miles traveled in a week that has shown that results against Aldershot, Dorking and Gateshead were perhaps not the late arrival to the party that we thought they were.

I’m trying to be as positive as possible, here. We have some great players at the club and in fairness, we dominated the first half an hour at Gateshead and first half at Torquay. You can see how much of a threat we can carry when we’re on it and we still have big players to come back into the starting XI.

But this lack of maturity, concentration, confidence, intelligence, experience - however you want to term it, it is going to cost us our place in this league if we don’t get realistic about the situation quickly. We can either carry on waiting for this young squad to grow up a bit or we can bring in some much needed help.

A word on James Jones, who I can see is turning into the latest scapegoat for fans who always seem to need one to target. He played well yesterday, as he did at Gateshead. May sound daft when we’ve conceded four in a half but everything he had to deal with, he did. I think the problem is in midfield. Josh Lundstram can’t do it all on his own.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 23, 2022, 10:29:42 AM
A RB who can play the full 90 would help. Barrows is great but a liability playing 2nd half half fit.

Osborne isn't cutting it. Kaja looked a handful.

Sick of always being rge bridesmaid. No other club in the country loses that.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 23, 2022, 10:49:04 AM
I'm trying to get my head round BT Sport selecting Cooper as Man of the Match. Perhaps they thought his goal outbalanced
his involvement (or lack of it) in the goals we conceded. In his defence however, Jones should be helping bring Cooper along, not the other way round.

Do you think cooper was are biggest problem?

No, but MoM ? Come on ! I thought my post made it clear that James Jones was the bigger problem at the back, but the BIGGEST problem was the performance of Osborne. He's nowhere near what we need him to be.

Motm was Lundstrum or Hulme
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on October 23, 2022, 10:52:55 AM
my motm was ccc. like andrew flynn i thought JJ had a good game and dealt with what was in front of him.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 23, 2022, 11:06:14 AM
I thought Chris Conn-Clarke was excellent and importantly he seems to be building up a good understanding with Ryan Colclough.

Whilst we defended well in the first half, it's alarming how easy it seems to be for teams to play straight between the lines - or even drive between it with the ball themselves - something which would hopefully be rectified with Marriott returning to the team.

Given that right back and holding midfield have both been real issues, I'm surprised we haven't gone back for Harry Perritt who was excellent in both roles.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on October 23, 2022, 11:52:50 AM

Given that right back and holding midfield have both been real issues, I'm surprised we haven't gone back for Harry Perritt who was excellent in both roles.

I think he liked it here, and he's not in the picture at Accrington where he only gets a game in the EFL Trophy. He'd be a very welcome return.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on October 23, 2022, 12:51:31 PM
I thought Chris Conn-Clarke was excellent and importantly he seems to be building up a good understanding with Ryan Colclough.

Whilst we defended well in the first half, it's alarming how easy it seems to be for teams to play straight between the lines - or even drive between it with the ball themselves - something which would hopefully be rectified with Marriott returning to the team.

Given that right back and holding midfield have both been real issues, I'm surprised we haven't gone back for Harry Perritt who was excellent in both roles.

Conn Clarke was brilliant first half but not as good second half but that can be said for  most of them re the second half.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 23, 2022, 01:59:59 PM

The post-match thoughts of Gary Johnson:

https://torquayunited.com/gaffer-reacts-to-altrincham-point/ (https://torquayunited.com/gaffer-reacts-to-altrincham-point/)
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Mick on October 23, 2022, 05:30:39 PM

Given that right back and holding midfield have both been real issues, I'm surprised we haven't gone back for Harry Perritt who was excellent in both roles.

I think he liked it here, and he's not in the picture at Accrington where he only gets a game in the EFL Trophy. He'd be a very welcome return.
A young apprentice who works wirh me is Harry's best mate.....I will put in a request tomorrow
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on October 23, 2022, 07:17:04 PM

Given that right back and holding midfield have both been real issues, I'm surprised we haven't gone back for Harry Perritt who was excellent in both roles.

I think he liked it here, and he's not in the picture at Accrington where he only gets a game in the EFL Trophy. He'd be a very welcome return.
A young apprentice who works wirh me is Harry's best mate.....I will put in a request tomorrow

Tell him to ask Kyle Ferguson if he wants to come back also.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on October 23, 2022, 09:34:50 PM
Just watching the game I recorded from last night .. that pen was a fkn disgrace. Dinanga  is bone idle he hardly challenges for the ball in the air
I’m amazed he gets in the bloody team, time to give Goodson a run
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on October 23, 2022, 10:22:39 PM
Watched it on BT, watched the highlights on BT and listened to Parky on BT and a longer interview on the NL twitter post. Then watched ALty TV highlights. We can all see the positives and negatives. I'm interested to see how Parky pulls this around. The naivety of the team is so worrying. Let's hope the team thats picked for Tuesday has learnt some lessons from Saturday and implements the remedies.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on October 23, 2022, 11:10:18 PM
I’ve just listened to the interview with PP on twitter, he said we have the youngest team in the league, well may I suggest you get some experienced players as well.

He also said they were naive and are still learning, well I hope the manager also learns something from the first half decision to let Dinanga take a penalty when you have one of the better players in the league whose been taking them all season, he has this obsession in bigging up Dinanga, ..

Sometimes the decision making on certain priorities of the club really pisses me off.

Rant over.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on October 24, 2022, 09:34:35 AM
Does anyone know why PP wouldn't tell BT what Mullarkeys' injury is?
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on October 24, 2022, 09:37:28 AM
Does anyone know why PP wouldn't tell BT what Mullarkeys' injury is?

I guess keeps the opposition guessing over availability going forwards maybe?
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on October 24, 2022, 11:15:06 AM
Just watching the game I recorded from last night .. that pen was a fkn disgrace. Dinanga  is bone idle he hardly challenges for the ball in the air
I’m amazed he gets in the bloody team, time to give Goodson a run
If he isn't bone idle he's certainly not brave. Avoids going in where it's tough and he might get hurt. Opposite end of the spectrum to Hulme. They do offer different things but as a striker you've got to risk getting black and blue and challenging for everything.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on October 24, 2022, 11:26:03 AM
Just watching the game I recorded from last night .. that pen was a fkn disgrace. Dinanga  is bone idle he hardly challenges for the ball in the air
I’m amazed he gets in the bloody team, time to give Goodson a run
If he isn't bone idle he's certainly not brave. Avoids going in where it's tough and he might get hurt. Opposite end of the spectrum to Hulme. They do offer different things but as a striker you've got to risk getting black and blue and challenging for everything.

Good point this. Whilst a lot of focus understandably on the saved penalty the rebound from a few yards that went over the bar when it was 2-0 to us, Adam Virgo I recall on the BT commentary pointed out if he’d really thrown himself at the ball he would have got a clean strike and a tap in for 3-0.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on October 24, 2022, 12:32:16 PM

The post-match thoughts of Gary Johnson:

https://torquayunited.com/gaffer-reacts-to-altrincham-point/ (https://torquayunited.com/gaffer-reacts-to-altrincham-point/)
I almost fell off my chair at one point. He bordered on hinting the opposition merited some credit.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 24, 2022, 01:58:37 PM
I’ve just listened to the interview with PP on twitter, he said we have the youngest team in the league, well may I suggest you get some experienced players as well.

He also said they were naive and are still learning, well I hope the manager also learns something from the first half decision to let Dinanga take a penalty when you have one of the better players in the league whose been taking them all season, he has this obsession in bigging up Dinanga, ..

Sometimes the decision making on certain priorities of the club really pisses me off.

Rant over.

I'm guessing we all collectively felt sick to the pits of our stomach when Dinanga placed the ball on the spot.

I would have been absolutely flabbergasted if he'd actually scored it.

Scoring run or not, he's the last person I'd back to stick something away given he'd had over 30 seconds to stew over it beforehand.

If only we could airdrop Elliott Durell every game... fella was ice cold from 12 yards.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 24, 2022, 02:48:43 PM
I’ve just listened to the interview with PP on twitter, he said we have the youngest team in the league, well may I suggest you get some experienced players as well.

He also said they were naive and are still learning, well I hope the manager also learns something from the first half decision to let Dinanga take a penalty when you have one of the better players in the league whose been taking them all season, he has this obsession in bigging up Dinanga, ..

Sometimes the decision making on certain priorities of the club really pisses me off.

Rant over.

I'm guessing we all collectively felt sick to the pits of our stomach when Dinanga placed the ball on the spot.

I would have been absolutely flabbergasted if he'd actually scored it.

Scoring run or not, he's the last person I'd back to stick something away given he'd had over 30 seconds to stew over it beforehand.

If only we could airdrop Elliott Durell every game... fella was ice cold from 12 yards.

I don't think I've ever been confident in a player taking a penalty for Altrincham - maybe Walshaw?. Given Marcus had 5 in 5 and was about to have 6 in 6, I can't personally begrudge a striker being arrogant.

But, this is where we miss an experience captain taking charge.  Jordan should be overulling Marcus and either taking it or getting coclough to take it.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 24, 2022, 03:39:24 PM
I’ve just listened to the interview with PP on twitter, he said we have the youngest team in the league, well may I suggest you get some experienced players as well.

He also said they were naive and are still learning, well I hope the manager also learns something from the first half decision to let Dinanga take a penalty when you have one of the better players in the league whose been taking them all season, he has this obsession in bigging up Dinanga, ..

Sometimes the decision making on certain priorities of the club really pisses me off.

Rant over.

I'm guessing we all collectively felt sick to the pits of our stomach when Dinanga placed the ball on the spot.

I would have been absolutely flabbergasted if he'd actually scored it.

Scoring run or not, he's the last person I'd back to stick something away given he'd had over 30 seconds to stew over it beforehand.

If only we could airdrop Elliott Durell every game... fella was ice cold from 12 yards.

I don't think I've ever been confident in a player taking a penalty for Altrincham - maybe Walshaw?. Given Marcus had 5 in 5 and was about to have 6 in 6, I can't personally begrudge a striker being arrogant.

But, this is where we miss an experience captain taking charge.  Jordan should be overulling Marcus and either taking it or getting coclough to take it.

Conn-Clarke seems to have Colclough's swagger, too - they'd be my top two - with Marcus and Jordan, our two actual centre forwards, being bottom of the list...

I reckon Eddy Jones has got a good penalty in him too.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: FromAltyToAshford on October 24, 2022, 03:49:05 PM
Thought Osborne was supposed to be a penalty taker. I know he missed one, but it is strange that he doesn't seem to have wanted one since.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on October 24, 2022, 05:17:22 PM
I sure this should be sorted pre-match.

If you're on pens, you're on pens until you miss one
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on October 25, 2022, 09:39:44 AM
I am sure that penalties accounted for a good portion of Marcus' goals when at Dartford last season, although I'm not arsed enough to go and check.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on October 25, 2022, 09:43:37 AM
I am sure that penalties accounted for a good portion of Marcus' goals when at Dartford last season, although I'm not arsed enough to go and check.

He certainly scored a few - but in their Trophy tie he was substituted near the end of extra time with a shoot-out looming. It seemed strange at the time....
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on October 25, 2022, 10:55:05 AM
I am sure that penalties accounted for a good portion of Marcus' goals when at Dartford last season, although I'm not arsed enough to go and check.

He certainly scored a few - but in their Trophy tie he was substituted near the end of extra time with a shoot-out looming. It seemed strange at the time....
If he wasn't injured there's a clear message there! Penalties around the corner and you take a striker off. I've no problem with Marcus starting tonight but if we get a penalty please no.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 25, 2022, 11:39:37 AM
I am sure that penalties accounted for a good portion of Marcus' goals when at Dartford last season, although I'm not arsed enough to go and check.

He certainly scored a few - but in their Trophy tie he was substituted near the end of extra time with a shoot-out looming. It seemed strange at the time....
If he wasn't injured there's a clear message there! Penalties around the corner and you take a striker off. I've no problem with Marcus starting tonight but if we get a penalty please no.

Like Reeves in the final
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on October 25, 2022, 04:02:50 PM
Torquay fans reckon another 5 minutes and they would have won the game,what a load of male cow manure
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: JD on October 25, 2022, 08:11:14 PM
Torquay fans reckon another 5 minutes and they would have won the game,what a load of male cow manure


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Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Bath Alty on October 25, 2022, 10:04:34 PM
2-0 up at half time and dominating. We need to see games off. 4-0 at half time wouldn’t have flattered us. What does Parky tell them at half time??

Time to go Parky. Thanks for everything but you are taking us backwards now.

Let me guess. Back to being worried about Parky being snapped up by a bigger club this evening?  Not every game is a must win. Stuff happens, good and bad, it’s a long season.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 25, 2022, 10:10:34 PM
2-0 up at half time and dominating. We need to see games off. 4-0 at half time wouldn’t have flattered us. What does Parky tell them at half time??

Time to go Parky. Thanks for everything but you are taking us backwards now.

Let me guess. Back to being worried about Parky being snapped up by a bigger club this evening?  Not every game is a must win. Stuff happens, good and bad, it’s a long season.

100%.

Couldn't wait for kick off tonight to put the anguish and the ifs / buts from Saturday to bed.

To your point I'm looking at the table thinking we should be 5/5/5 and 13th - but Yeovil / Scunny will think they could have held on at Moss Lane for 3 points that could be pivotal to their own seasons.

We'll be OK this season.