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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Mrs Warbouys on July 30, 2009, 08:23:02 AM
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Had his budget cut by 2/3's, always been lorded as great manager, and despite all his work developing young players,he's always had a large war chest to work with when producing good sides,looks like he's noy up to the task when the big budget isnt available.Fgr will struggle without him,and may return to relegation strugglers from the false position theyve held in recent seasons
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Thats made my day.
I only hope that Coiln Peakes position is not in any danger.
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It's amazing how "great managers" like Mark Wright and Jim HArvey lose interest when there's no wonga left to fund them.
Anyone can be a good manager with a blank chequebook (with the possible exception of Mark Hughes) ;D
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Oh dear,what a shame.Thats another club to add to the relegation mix ;D
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Jim Harvey was so nearly appointed as Alty's manager back in 1992.
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hopefully this is the season we will finally see the back of this progressive club.....things obviously not going swimmingly with their leisure and fitness centre which was supposed to be self financing for the club...like worksop's clubhouse.
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A small club run by small minded people. Their Meccano set stadium won't be missed if we're lucky enough to wave goodbye to them come May.
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A small club run by small minded people.
The same small minded people that picked the club up in the 90's when it was dying on its own feet in the Southern League and have turned it in to a club that has been competing in a national league below the Football League for what will now be 12 seasons?
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Damn you Google for have no chufty badge images.
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HA HA HA HA HA HA
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If we leave the Club out of it for a minute can I ask how you would define a good manager?
If it's purely down to the way a manager utilises the resources (players) they have then he is indeed a good manager as Morecambe and Forest Green, love em or (more likely) hate em have been fairly successful and played what is generally considered 'good' football
If it incorporates recruitment then maybe less so
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Just a guess......but I wonder if this has anything to do with Andrew Mangan and what to do with him while he sits out half the season checking his race card
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nice spot Mick. hmmmmmmmm
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If we leave the Club out of it for a minute can I ask how you would define a good manager?
If it's purely down to the way a manager utilises the resources (players) they have then he is indeed a good manager as Morecambe and Forest Green, love em or (more likely) hate em have been fairly successful and played what is generally considered 'good' football
If it incorporates recruitment then maybe less so
How can that be Phil? most of the players he has used haven't come up through FGR's ranks, Stonehouse, Fowler, Mangan, Fleetwood?, Tonkin, the Morecambe lot (Dodgson, Rigoglioso, Robinson, Lloyd etc)?
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If we leave the Club out of it for a minute can I ask how you would define a good manager?
If it's purely down to the way a manager utilises the resources (players) they have then he is indeed a good manager as Morecambe and Forest Green, love em or (more likely) hate em have been fairly successful and played what is generally considered 'good' football
If it incorporates recruitment then maybe less so
I don't see how this has any relevance whatsoever to Jim Harvey's stint as Forest Green's manager.
He has a proven track record for doing quite well when given a lot of resources to work with. He has been given limited resources at Forest Green and jacked it in.
It is therefore clear proof of his inability to work with limited resources.
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You've just answered my post thanks. Both say (I believe) that he has used the players he has had to play good football and have some success but are critical of how he acquires his players. So I know now how you define a good manager. Ironic isn't it how we admired him when he was ousted from Morecambe after his illness?
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Where was I critical of how he acquired his players?
Point that part of my post out please.
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i think at Morecambe he was able to bring a few players through the ranks, and sign some half decent guys. At FGR with many of the youngsters preferring other hobbies such as stamp collecting and window licking, then obviously he is going to bring in some more talented people he knows (ie Morecambe part timers). Harvey has done a good job wherever he has been. With the wage budget cut, perhaps Harvey couldn’t be bothered with the task of keeping an over hyped club in this league. And to be perfectly frank, who could blame him?
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Where was I critical of how he acquired his players?
Point that part of my post out please.
Okay critical of HOW he acquired them maybe a misinterpretation of your post.
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lets just be pleased that the club has no manager 7 days before the start of the season and the officials will be dealing with legal stuff. It's all good for The Alty.
COME ON ALTY
COME ON ALTY
COME ON ALTY
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It is indeed ironic how we felt sorry for JH when morecambe ousted him.....we felt the man deserved a bit of loyalty....perhaps we were wrong though as he has not shown much loyalty when the budget was cut at FGR has he?...but maybe the man actually had moral fibre incompatible with FGR and was not happy he had to keep a match fixer on the budget? In which case he should be applauded we may never know.
Still I'm just pleased FGR find themselves in a mess at the beginning of the season and predict the AGM cup will have an extra dirty tricks edge to it this season....which can only be for the good of the game...so Jim should be applauded for that I reckon.
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Putting managerial ability and budgets aside, from what I have heard , Jim Harvey is a good footballing man when contrasted with the behaviour of arrogant idiots like Evans, Westley etc
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Jim Harvey was so nearly appointed as Alty's manager back in 1992.
Cult,
Congrats on reaching 1500 "Goodwins". ;) ;) ;)