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Title: Promotion to Football League
Post by: cheshire cat on January 14, 2023, 07:36:26 PM
There's a small piece in today's Times suggesting next month EFL clubs will be discussing the possibility of changing the rules so three National clubs get promoted at the end of each season.

We shall have to wait and see if anything comes of it. Obviously the bottom half of Div 2 will be against it.
Title: Re: Promotion to Football League
Post by: Timperley The Best on January 14, 2023, 07:43:13 PM
Hope it happens but can't see it , turkeys voting  for Christmas etc
Title: Re: Promotion to Football League
Post by: AltyNotFaulty on January 14, 2023, 07:55:04 PM
Should be 3 up and 3 down in every league from National League North/South upwards to the Premiership for consistency. Job done!
Title: Re: Promotion to Football League
Post by: Hugh on January 14, 2023, 08:03:17 PM
Absolutely against it - should be four promoted from the National League like happens in the division above (and to match the four down)!

To be fair, it sounds like in 1986 an 2002 they somewhat had the FL clubs over a barrel, so unless there's something I don't know about, I don't expect it.

By the way, anyone know what finally convinced the Scottish League to allow teams to be promoted to it? I suspect something to do with the formation of the Lowland League or the formation of New Co. Rangers.
Title: Re: Promotion to Football League
Post by: HashtagAlty on January 15, 2023, 12:51:39 PM
This story seems to be based on EFL clubs in the top division voting it through for more resources.
Title: Re: Promotion to Football League
Post by: Salfordalty on January 15, 2023, 01:52:33 PM
Any clubs in the bottom half of league 2 will be like turkeys voting for Christmas
Title: Re: Promotion to Football League
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 15, 2023, 03:16:23 PM
Won't be anything we need to worry about for a few years yet unfortunately.
Title: Re: Promotion to Football League
Post by: cheshire cat on January 15, 2023, 04:28:03 PM
Won't be anything we need to worry about for a few years yet unfortunately.

It would clear the decks faster of the big money clubs who end up scrapping for just two places
Title: Re: Promotion to Football League
Post by: swindellsworth on January 15, 2023, 10:00:18 PM
Previously i thought the prospect of getting an extra promotion place any time soon was a no go . Now though maybe the voting clubs might just look at most of the top six in our league and their size and history and consider just who they believe would strengthen the FL more , Notts County or Hartlepool , Chesterfield or Harrogate , Wrexham or Crawley , just for examples .
Title: Re: Promotion to Football League
Post by: JD on January 15, 2023, 11:17:50 PM
Simple solution: make the National League the 5th division!
Title: Re: Promotion to Football League
Post by: cheshire cat on January 16, 2023, 09:38:42 AM
Simple solution: make the National League the 5th division!

It's the obvious thing to do now all the teams are full time. (Are they?) It's probably a stretch too far though.
Title: Re: Promotion to Football League
Post by: Bath Alty on January 16, 2023, 09:57:33 AM
What difference would it make?

League cup instead of FATrophy (I’d rather have a realistic shot at winning at Wembley than losing to someone’s reserves)

More promotion slots (a good thing)

Greater share of EFL money

Less tv coverage if we swap BT sport for the limited big league 2 get?
Title: Re: Promotion to Football League
Post by: cheshire cat on January 16, 2023, 07:06:19 PM
Chequers end pretty full every game.
Title: Re: Promotion to Football League
Post by: Bath Alty on January 16, 2023, 10:47:45 PM
Calling in league three won’t change the gates that much!
Title: Re: Promotion to Football League
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 16, 2023, 10:52:23 PM
I've always thought that splitting league 2 and the Conference into league 2 North and South would be the best idea.

It'll never happen though.
Title: Re: Promotion to Football League
Post by: HashtagAlty on January 16, 2023, 11:18:48 PM
Interesting if you mixed and then geographically split League 2 and Conference by North and South. Clear there's a huge geographical benefit for fans to be in League 2.

League 2 North

Northampton
Carlisle
Salford
Swindon
Bradford
Barrow
Mansfield
Stockport
Wallsal
Doncaster
Tranmere
Grimsby
Crewe
Harrogate
Rochdale
Hartlepool
----
Notts County x
Wrexham x
Chesterfield x
Altrincham
York x
Halifax x
Oldham x
Gateshead
SC**thorpe x


Leyton Orient
Stevenage
AFC Wimbledon
Sutton
Newport
Colchester
Crawley
Gillingam
----
Woking
Barnet x
Southend x
Dagenham x
Bromley
Wealdstone
Eastleigh
Boreham Wood
Dorking
Maidenhead
Yoevil x
Aldershot x
Torquay x
Maidstone



Title: Re: Promotion to Football League
Post by: cheshire cat on January 17, 2023, 09:38:44 AM
Thats an interesting split. I'm just looking at our half and all the ex-league clubs. I wonder if that's an indication there that there's less money to throw around on players in the northern part of the country.
Title: Re: Promotion to Football League
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 17, 2023, 10:55:44 AM
Thats an interesting split. I'm just looking at our half and all the ex-league clubs. I wonder if that's an indication there that there's less money to throw around on players in the northern part of the country.

Apart from Wrexham, Notts County and Chesterfield of course.

And look where they are in the league!