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5 May 2016
NINE PLAYERS LEAVING
John Edwards, joint Press & Media Officer at Altrincham FC, writes that new manager "Neil Young has begun the decision-making process needed to shape a new-look Altrincham squad by announcing that nine players from last season have left the club.
After deliberating over targets he wants to bring in and a need to balance the books, Alty's recently-appointed manager has confirmed the departures of Ryan Crowther, Tom Marshall, Adam Griffin, Luca Havern, Tim Deasy, Josh O'Keefe, Jordan Sinnott, George Bowerman and Nicky Clee.
'I've spoken to each one of them individually, with the exception of George Bowerman, who has been left two messages,' he said. 'I think they appreciated that, but I wouldn't have it any other way. These lads have done fantastically well for the club over the last few years and deserved to hear the reasons for my decision in person.
'Whenever a new manager comes in, he always has a tough call to make about keeping some people and not others. We need to add players to what was a fairly small squad last season, but to do that on what will obviously be a reduced budget, we have to free up some money.
'That has now been done, but I can tell you it entailed some very difficult decisions. When I spoke to the lads who are leaving, I thanked them for the job they've done, and I want to place on record the club's appreciation for all they did in their time with us.'
Meetings are planned with the four other remaining players - Damian Reeves, Scott Leather, Michael Rankine and James Lawrie - to see if agreement can be reached about staying at The J.Davidson Stadium, while Young confirmed he is closing in on a list of potential new signings.
'We have sounded out one or two, and the first signing could be imminent, if all goes well' he said. 'We have to be absolutely sure they are players who can take us forward, but plans are in place.'"
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A brave and positive move from a manager who clearly means business. Lets see what happens in the next few weeks. If we end up with the late picking up the scraps scene again I'll worry but so far it looks like Neil means business. I bet most other players and managers are looking at the beach right now.
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Would have wanted to keep Luca and Tim and it's sad to see Nicky go but I could see it coming. Not too bothered about the rest though. Glad Lawrie, Reeves and Scotty are in talks but not sure about keeping hold of Ranks tbh.
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I'm devastated about Nicky leaving tbh. The manager absolutely means business though, so in him we must trust. We were probably relegated by having too many injuries to key players last season - they've all gone (apart from Dens).
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Lawrie is the one I'm not convinced about staying but I suppose he could be a good option coming off the bench,I just hope Neil doesn't see him as a regular starter!
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There are several on the released list that I would much rather keep than Rankine
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I can see why he has been retained - just didn't anticipate it
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Lawrie is the one I'm not convinced about staying but I suppose he could be a good option coming off the bench,I just hope Neil doesn't see him as a regular starter!
I've said it before, and I'll say it again : IMO Lawrie is an absolutely awful player, and if NY does sign him, then the manager will have gone down in my estimation before the season even starts. >:( >:(
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No complaints about any of that. We can't afford injury prone players. Good news about Lawrie.
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Lawrie is the one I'm not convinced about staying but I suppose he could be a good option coming off the bench,I just hope Neil doesn't see him as a regular starter!
I've said it before, and I'll say it again : IMO Lawrie is an absolutely awful player, and if NY does sign him, then the manager will have gone down in my estimation before the season even starts. >:( >:(
Lawrie must have skills we know nothing about. They certainly aren't on display on the football field.
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These days players are a lot about levels. Lawrie is a very good CN player.
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I'm not a fan of James Lawrie, but he is relatively young, regularly fit and has done it in the northern league before. Also, never been any issues with commitment.
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My understanding is that they are not retained - they are just not yet released.
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The bit about George Bowerman just totally sums up what a total sh*thouse that bloke is. Probably too busy tanning his thighs ready for the new season to answer his phone. The T**t.
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I always think Lawrie was rarely played in his best position. I'm assuming that NY knows him well and intends to play him only in his best position rather than left winger one week then somewhere else the next,, I personally think he has the ability to be a decent player. Just played out of position far far too often by the last management team
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Sad to see nicky go been great for this club but injury prone
Also sorry to see deasy go
This man means buisness like it
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Shame to see Sinnott go. Thought he had a good season considering he was playing most out of position. Also suprised to see Luca go think he is a solid defender at conference north level. Think he will do well wherever he goes
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Jordan improved a lot once his dad left and he was pushed further forward, but in truth it was time for him to go.
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Shame to see Sinnott go. Thought he had a good season considering he was playing most out of position. Also suprised to see Luca go think he is a solid defender at conference north level. Think he will do well wherever he goes
agree about jordan but i guess the travel would be an issue
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Sad to see nicky go been great for this club but injury prone
Also sorry to see deasy go
This man means buisness like it
Displaying his usual managerial trait. Get rid of the majority and to quote the poster on the Chester forum, "chop and change until he's happy with the balance".
I just hope his dealings in the transfer market are better this summer than they were at County last year.
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I'm sad to see some of the lads go but...... this is the hard arsed face of management where big decisions are made and I'm glad to see NY is getting stuck in to his new task with gusto.
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I think lawrie is good when played behind a front one.
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I always think Lawrie was rarely played in his best position.
And where would that be Ray ? He's unarguably got talent, but he's rubbish with a dead ball, and for every top drawer performance he'll throw in three or four mediocre efforts, and an absolute stinker.
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My point about Lawrie is that he got overly comfortable under Sinnott. Neil Young strikes me as the kind of manager that won't allow it. Under that kind of manager I think we could see a better player. Time will tell.
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Lawrie? One of the most inconsistent soft players. He better put several rockets up his arse. Gutted about Clee, I would have seen if he could have got back fit as even in his last appearance at Chester when half fit he was still destroying players until his groin snapped. I would have kept Luca too because he is decent alongside Leather, they just never played much together last season. Still a decent defender but maybe on a high wage. The rest are correct decisions.
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Lawrie is such a frustrating "luxury" player, loads of ability but cant keep the ball and lacks concentration. So often he loses the ball in dangerous positions and his delivery is shocking at times.
However, he is young, fit always tries hard, runs well with the ball at feet and maybe Neil Young could be the man to get the best out of him?
He will do better at CN level but his best position seems to be central behind the striker(s) as he has two good feet so he can go either way which always makes defending more difficult.
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I always think Lawrie was rarely played in his best position.
And where would that be Ray ? He's unarguably got talent, but he's rubbish with a dead ball, and for every top drawer performance he'll throw in three or four mediocre efforts, and an absolute stinker.
Definitely not on the wing Phil. I always thought Sinnot played him wherever he needed a gap filling in the formation. I haven't been enough times this season but over the years I've rated him. I'm assuming NY knows him better tactically than Sinnot did.
Time will tell.
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I think lawrie is good when played behind a front one.
Not been offered a contract, but that is his best position
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I am really sad about Nicky Clee going, one of my favorite players to have played for Alty. So skilful and always brought a buzz to the ground when he got the ball, so many happy memories.
We will see him again I have no doubt, probably when we play Harrogate, Dens better watch out when we do.
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Gutted about Nicky. Think he'd be an asset especially in the North
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I think it will be very interesting to see where the players we haven't offered new contracts, end up!!
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Sad to see nicky go been great for this club but injury prone
Also sorry to see deasy go
This man means buisness like it
Displaying his usual managerial trait. Get rid of the majority and to quote the poster on the Chester forum, "chop and change until he's happy with the balance".
I just hope his dealings in the transfer market are better this summer than they were at County last year.
your right of course has to fill the gaps now
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Lots of songs leaving
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Shame to see Deasy, Clee and Sinnott go... I think keeping Lawrie is a good shout as long as NY can get him playing like we all know he can. Not sure about keeping Ranks though
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Lawrie? One of the most inconsistent soft players. He better put several rockets up his arse. Gutted about Clee, I would have seen if he could have got back fit as even in his last appearance at Chester when half fit he was still destroying players until his groin snapped. I would have kept Luca too because he is decent alongside Leather, they just never played much together last season. Still a decent defender but maybe on a high wage. The rest are correct decisions.
Interesting that a word that seems to crop up about Lawrie is inconsistent. He seemed to be remarkably consistent last season (awful). Astonished that he has been retained. Plus it means we are likely to have a midfield that includes both Richman and Lawrie. Jesus.
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He must have a very good keeper lined up to release Tim.
Masha and Clee are our 2 best players - IF FULLY FIT and that is the concern.
I think Lawrie will be better at CN level and with tougher, bigger players around him.
I also have a gut feeling that Rankine will very good at CN level - AGAIN IF FULLY FIT.
We know that there is a budget cut - but we don't know what the players released were on or would command.
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He must have a very good keeper lined up to release Tim.
Masha and Clee are our 2 best players - IF FULLY FIT and that is the concern.
I think Lawrie will be better at CN level and with tougher, bigger players around him.
I also have a gut feeling that Rankine will very good at CN level - AGAIN IF FULLY FIT.
We know that there is a budget cut - but we don't know what the players released were on or would command.
I would have expected Rankine to be one of the highest earners so surprised we're able to offer him something. I'd also be surprised if he will be prepared to lower himself to play in the Conference North.
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I'm a bit concerned in all honesty. Some of those released players are more than good enough.
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I'm a bit concerned in all honesty. Some of those released players are more than good enough.
Me too. Don't know on what basis NY has reached these decisions. Has he watched us live, video highlights etc. WHAT
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Cheldle Hulme Alty, i sincerely hope Rankine wont lower himself
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Well done Neil Young, I think he's me the right decision in cutting so many players. We needed a refresh and that is what we are going to get. He will be judged on results and so it's important he is able to bring in hIs own players. Lawrie may prove the doubters wrong. The manager's hands are tied by budget and players physical condition can be a huge part in whether players are kept or not. Let's all get behind the manager, it's only Day 5 after all.
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clearly physical condition didn't play a part in the Rankine decision!
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clearly physical condition didn't play a part in the Rankine decision!
Oh I don't know, after seeing the way he shot off down that tunnel on Saturday, he's obviously a lot fitter and faster than I had him down for!
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clearly physical condition didn't play a part in the Rankine decision!
I think he said in his initial interview with flynnie that fitness levels will be paramount prior to the season start. I expect Mr Rankine and company will be putting in quite a bit of running/ fitness training in jun/jul so that they can strip a lot leaner come the pre season friendlies
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We don't know that Rankine is staying. NY may have thought that replacing decent strikers is difficult, but who knows may only want to keep 1 of them but not sure who wants to stay, or which 1 he can keep hold of, if any.
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I think it's clear that, probably due to a reduced budget, that NY cannot wait for any players with fitness issues. He knows from his time at Chester just how good a fit Nicky Clee is.
I think Reevesy has 30 conf north goals in him and a partnership with ranks is much more viable at this level.
I have doubts about whether some players on the way down have the spirit and momentum we had on the way up? A sad end to some Alty careers I had time for but no real arguments from me.
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For me it is a case of "a new broom sweeps clean"................after the fiasco last season, it was maybe time for a change.
Several players fully deserve to be shown the door and others are victims (I assume) of our relegation and budget cuts and the fact they are 'guilty by association' with what was such a poor side at National level.
Terrible to see Nicky Clee released and Tom Marshall, but I trust the manager. I am guessing that the manager has decided there is no place for 'passengers' and there is reasonable risk that both may not regain the required fitness and will spend too much time on the treatment table whilst taking money from the kitty (not their fault I must add). Keeping Lawrie has to be a risk - surprised by this.
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Lawrie is such a frustrating "luxury" player, loads of ability but cant keep the ball and lacks concentration. So often he loses the ball in dangerous positions and his delivery is shocking at times.
However, he is young, fit always tries hard, runs well with the ball at feet and maybe Neil Young could be the man to get the best out of him?
He will do better at CN level but his best position seems to be central behind the striker(s) as he has two good feet so he can go either way which always makes defending more difficult.
the point is he (like many others) to date he has been managed poorly. Let's see how he applys himself now he's working with a proper manager
No f**king around anymore - he has the ability
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I am really sad about Nicky Clee going, one of my favorite players to have played for Alty. So skilful and always brought a buzz to the ground when he got the ball, so many happy memories.
We will see him again I have no doubt, probably when we play Harrogate, Dens better watch out when we do.
Agree with you - but previous management destroyed him
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I'm a bit concerned in all honesty. Some of those released players are more than good enough.
maybe good enough but Youngy has already said he wants players with heart and commitment who will battle
Most of those released (those which arent injured) give none of that. Their sh*thouses, and thats why they have been released
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I'm a bit concerned in all honesty. Some of those released players are more than good enough.
maybe good enough but Youngy has already said he wants players with heart and commitment who will battle
Most of those released (those which arent injured) give none of that. Their sh*thouses, and thats why they have been released
Yummy. Vitriol with my breakfast.....
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I'm a bit concerned in all honesty. Some of those released players are more than good enough.
maybe good enough but Youngy has already said he wants players with heart and commitment who will battle
Most of those released (those which arent injured) give none of that. Their sh*thouses, and thats why they have been released
Yummy. Vitriol with my breakfast.....
It's supposed to be healthy and full of vitamins.....oh, wait a minute, that was Virol.
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One thing we're not privy to, is the wages these guys are picking up. I have a feeling Lawrie might be very cheap, in which case we might as well have a look at him at CN level again (and I'm not his biggest fan).
On that basis though, I'm surprised that Ranks would stick around, as he MUST be one of the highest earners. I suppose the logic is that him and Reevesy, fully fit, would blaze most of the league.
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Lawrie is the one I'm not convinced about staying but I suppose he could be a good option coming off the bench,I just hope Neil doesn't see him as a regular starter!
I've said it before, and I'll say it again : IMO Lawrie is an absolutely awful player, and if NY does sign him, then the manager will have gone down in my estimation before the season even starts. >:( >:(
I absolutely agree. Whether it's behind the strikers or elsewhere, seems to turn a great number of promising positions into the opposite. No better in the conference north from what I remember.
Truly sorry to see Nicky Clee go but onwards and upwards I guess. I anticipate a transitional mid table season....
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Very sorry to see nicky clee go....given i am sure we will be 'having a look' at various players' fitness skill and desire in the friendlies id have hoped nicky would have been given a chance to prove his fitness.
I expect a fully fit brilliant left winger and a top notch keeper to sign in time for the friendlies!
And i expect a fully fit slimline rankine to turn up for pre season...
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One thing we're not privy to, is the wages these guys are picking up. I have a feeling Lawrie might be very cheap, in which case we might as well have a look at him at CN level again (and I'm not his biggest fan).
On that basis though, I'm surprised that Ranks would stick around, as he MUST be one of the highest earners. I suppose the logic is that him and Reevesy, fully fit, would blaze most of the league.
I think your wrong Lawrie been here 5 years so he will defo be one of the highest earners
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I think it is logical to assume that those players who have been with us longest, will be on the highest wages.
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Oh really? I thought that might have made them cheaper? In most walks of life, you have to move on to get your pay rises ::)
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Some of these players will come back and haunt us and I'm not expecting more than mid table very hard league now going to take a bit of time to
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Some of these players will come back and haunt us and I'm not expecting more than mid table very hard league now going to take a bit of time to
Where are you off to Ryan?
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You may be right MarpleAlty, I really don't know. I just think that if a player is at a club 5 years, it's not unreasonable to assure he's given a slightly better deal each year in line with inflation /success on the pitch. I'll wager with you that Reevesy will be our highest paid player next season (assuming h stays) and I'll bet Lawrie ain't on peanuts.
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Mid table shouldn't be acceptable
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Some surprise departures from Wrexham, all about expectations I suppose, always thought wes York was a good player
Doran, Fowler, Gray, Hudson, Moke, Reynolds, Royle, Simpson, Smith,Vidal, White, Williams, York.
Also Tranmere have released Marcus Holness, Gary Taylor-Fletcher, Michael Higdon
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Another disappointed club looking to have a major shakeup. I suppose Cheltenham's clearout after relegation from the Football League, and subsequent promotion back up, set the tone. Galling to think that they lost at Alty........ :-\
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I think Wes York is a tremendous winger and had we stayed up would've fitted the bill for us wonderfully. As it is I can't see him dropping a level, nor would he fit in with our reduced budget. Ex Tamworth so even if he would and did then the likes of Kiddy and Nuneaton would snap him up.
Blaine Hudson an excellent centre half when I've seen him. Surprised there but guess we don't see them through the season and finishing outside the play offs clearly most performances haven't been if the required level from all of them.
Moke?
Vidal?
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It would be nice to have some players that were comfortable in at least 2 positions; but I suppose they're few and far between at this level.
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Where are you off to Ryan? God you are one he'll of an idiot acting like a kid oh you probably are
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It would be nice to have some players that were comfortable in at least 2 positions; but I suppose they're few and far between at this level.
That was Sinnotts idea, and he tried to turn Robbie Lawton into a right back. We haven't had proper bollocks since he left. That's one thing I will blame Sinnott for.
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Suprised Griff has been let go, a solid performer at LB surely he could do a job in the conf north. Dismantling the whole of the defence is a bit of a risk??
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Suprised Griff has been let go, a solid performer at LB surely he could do a job in the conf north. Dismantling the whole of the defence is a bit of a risk??
About 2 stone too solid!!
Good luck wherever you end up anyway Adam :)
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Suprised Griff has been let go, a solid performer at LB surely he could do a job in the conf north. Dismakntling the whole of the defence is a bit of a risk??
You obviously didn't watch many of our games this year as that is exactly what most teams were doing