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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Mrs Warbouys on October 05, 2015, 10:41:37 AM
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I didn't attend Saturday, when I eventually found the score out due to being in the wild of the west lakes I saw Altrincham 1-0 Barrow. A superb result against a club with big ambition, and big pockets. Im as good as the next man/woman at totally losing my sh*t at football games, but seriously what the hell is going on? I'm not surprised the manager is pissed off. It must be like a dripping tap from the back of that mainstand. We aren't a big enough club to have factions. Some people seem to derive pleasure from paying 15 quid to bait the manager, and I don't just mean this manager, all of them in my time, apart from king and McKenna..
Look at where the club is at, compare ourselves to AFC Telford, AFC Halifax, Nuneaton, Dartford, Eastbourne etc. This club/team is making slow and steady progress. Maybe a player be it the managers son or someone else isn't floating eveybodies boat, but slaughtering a young 21-year old midfielder at every turn is never going to help his confidence. If people want a manager out that's delivered steady progress every season he's been here, what do you want in charge? And are you happy for the playing budget to be cut to pay for it. We are all entitled as customers to express displeasure on occasion, but get some perspective. And one question, if kingy was in charge and playing Jeff king, would we see the same sort of abuse? Or Kenny Mc blooding a McKenna Jnr? I doubt it. It's all very well venting on here, that's what it's for, but of we are at the stage of abusing and heckling rather than encouraging when we are actually winning, it's a poor state of affairs.
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I absolutely agree 100% with this post Pete.
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Although stuff is said on forum the terrace is fairly tame in fact to tame no atmosphere now i also think that the cheer was for who came on which was densmore
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More people need to be singing at games, it's dropped off massively in the last five/ten years, which is surprising as people can talk to each other via phones and social media now where as they only used to see each other at football. Let's hope for some decent singing tomorrow night. And I think 99% of the home crowd are supportive most of the time.
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And here is where this attitude makes a (negative) difference: I have supported Alty all my life, I even saw us play in the Cheshire League. I was at the 8-1 drubbing of Vics in 1969, at Everton, Old Trafford, Wembley, White Hart Lane, Maine Road, St Andrews and went to nearly every match home and away from 1977 to 1980. I have lived in the South since then but still get to 15 or so matches a season (Woking, Lincoln, Boreham Wood this season so far). Next year my youngest child leaves home - my fiscal duties are over.
This should give me several thousand pounds a year spare, which might allow me to achieve my ambition of joining the board of the club. I have been quite successful in business and so I believe I would have a lot to offer, over and above the financial injection. I am not entirely sure I want to do this now - given whatever I (the club) do I will be pilloried.
We sign a player from the Football League - he won't make the transition to part time football, and he is probably past it
We sign a player from the Conference National - well, if he didn't make it at Barrow / Southport / Halifax, he is bound to be sh*t
We sign a player from the Conference North - he is unproven at this level and the club has become a joke
We sign a player from the Unibond - does the board not understand how big a club we are to be taking someone from this low down the pyramid
We promote a player from the Youth team - do we have no ambition? Do we have to rely on kids?
We successfully extend the contracts of the current team - how does this take the club forward? we are standing still
We perform emergency repairs to a crumbling Chequers end - this is a disgrace, pandering for fans who only come one game a season. The money could be better spent
We improve the segregation on the pop side - why are we spending money on the ground when the playing budget needs reinforcing
We don't improve the segregation on the pop side - does the club not realise how the fans are being badly treated by the state of the ground
We spend some money improving the media gantry - why are we spendign money catering for people who dont even bother to come to the ground and listen on Radio Robins?
I encourage my brother who runs a successful local business to sponsor a couple of matches - oh yeah, I bet you he got that on the cheap
I don't encourage my brother to sponsor - he can't even get his own family to invest in the club. What chance anyone else?
We get drawn at home to Manchester United in the FA Cup and give them Chequers end plus half the pop side - Are we forgetting the loyal supporters, giving away 2000 tickets like that leaving only 2500 for our loyal home support that averages 1200.
We increase the prices for the Man U game - bloody profiteering, thats what it is
We don't increase the prices - this club is so commercially naive - we could have made a killing
We get drawn at home to Woodley Sports in the FA Trophy and segregate - whats wrong with this club? At games like this I want to be able to change ends at half time
We don't segregate and one fat mouthy T**t from Woodley stands along side the Alty faithful on the Golf Road giving it some - this club has a total disregard for the safety of the fans
We lose the game .....
Now why would I want to get involved in all that?
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Figgy Pudding - hard to disagree. One Alty.
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Good post Pete.
In terms of atmosphere it was a bit flat on Saturday but that is often dictated by the amount of attacks/corners we have which overall was quite few. I don't think it's been too bad in most games and I remember the days of getting 5-6 to stand together to try and get something going.
I'd love to think that the cheer was for Dens but sadly I doubt it. I would also think that the cheer was also preceded or followed by shouting as well.
As I've said in conversation to people, some fans act like Jordan Sinnott is some fat kid that Lee has dragged off the playstation and away from gorging on wotsits all day to get him out of the house.
He is a young 21 year old midfielder still learning his game. He was excellent at Lincoln, away at Welling last season he was dreadful. Sounds to me like a lad with some things still to learn.
He certainly needs to get stuck in more but he does not deserve a lot of what he gets. If you're abusing players coming off (where is the nepotism in subbing your son?) when we are winning you've surely got a bit far away from the reason you've come to the game.
Surely we all go to see mates and see if our team can score more goals than there team don't we? If it happens you're pleased, if it doesn't your a bit sad. If it's Braintree you're really sad. I worry that some have got a miles away from that now. Watching Kidderminsters chairman saying it might take another week to get the new man in there after another defeat reminded me of just what we do have here.
I can list a hundred reasons why I think it's better to watch Alty than City or United and I'll do it until my last breath. However one of the few bad things about it is that a small number of people, if they wish, have the power to do a lot of damage. The shout of one person can start a chain reaction. Now that the internet allows everyone a voice as well there can be dissent coming from all angles
If we can do our jobs and beat Halifax then we get to the stage in league where we start looking up not down. I love doing that.
Lee should have said certain sections rather than fans but he seems a pretty level headed bloke to me. Everyone has limits and this has clearly made him think " do I need this?" in the heat of the moment after a game. He probably didn't think the outgoing player deserved what he heard, the fact it was his son has made him feel it was doubly unfair. It can't be easy to ignore it all the time when you are getting stick from behind you, football manager or not.
Don't agree with everything Lee has done but I won't agree with everything the next manager does either. I hope that we don't see the next manager for a good while yet.
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I simply despair at all the negativity sometimes.
LS is holding the fort steady and arguably improving the team.
It is easy to improve a sh*te team. Lets face it before he arrived we were pretty sh*te lol.
As you improve it becomes harder and harder to show improvements and the improvements which are found are smaller. May i liken it to running (sorry), you can knock minutes off a PB when you start, but gradually you become happy when you can knock 15 seconds off or even a second for the faster runners. The same is true in football.
In relation to the singing i think we have suffered due to losing some big voices recently. Also peoples circumstances change and priorities change, the old fans are having kids, getting married and have other priorities, although kiddies corner is growing nicely. But kiddies corner takes the dads away from the singing section.
In three or four games time we could be sitting pretty in the league and sat nicely mid table. That mid table is very close indeed.
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I simply despair at all the negativity sometimes.
LS is holding the fort steady and arguably improving the team.
It is easy to improve a sh*te team. Lets face it before he arrived we were pretty sh*te lol.
As you improve it becomes harder and harder to show improvements and the improvements which are found are smaller. May i liken it to running (sorry), you can knock minutes off a PB when you start, but gradually you become happy when you can knock 15 seconds off or even a second for the faster runners. The same is true in football.
In relation to the singing i think we have suffered due to losing some big voices recently. Also peoples circumstances change and priorities change, the old fans are having kids, getting married and have other priorities, although kiddies corner is growing nicely. But kiddies corner takes the dads away from the singing section.
In three or four games time we could be sitting pretty in the league and sat nicely mid table. That mid table is very close indeed.
I'm going to price up a child minder and three bottles of becks for you and see if I can raise the funds.
On a more serious note, let's all make an effort to get behind them in Tuesday. We don't need a row about who should do what but let's play our part.
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And here is where this attitude makes a (negative) difference: I have supported Alty all my life, I even saw us play in the Cheshire League. I was at the 8-1 drubbing of Vics in 1969, at Everton, Old Trafford, Wembley, White Hart Lane, Maine Road, St Andrews and went to nearly every match home and away from 1977 to 1980. I have lived in the South since then but still get to 15 or so matches a season (Woking, Lincoln, Boreham Wood this season so far). Next year my youngest child leaves home - my fiscal duties are over.
Don't you believe it! ;)
If you look at how busy he forum used to be compared to now I think the negativity and OTT comments made about managers/players who are not liked I think we have an answer. If fans turn away from the forum because of this how do we think some of the managers/players feel about the same sort of thing.
Lets put Sinnott snr into perspective: Yes, there are times I cannot understand his decisions and sometimes our results and performances under him have been very very frustrating. However, he has brought some very decent players in and has improved our team year after year with steady and sustainable progress.
As for Sinnott Jnr; yes, there are better players, but he has also had some very decent reports on his performances including (iirc) a man of the match award, so I doubt he is all bad.
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I simply despair at all the negativity sometimes.
LS is holding the fort steady and arguably improving the team.
It is easy to improve a sh*te team. Lets face it before he arrived we were pretty sh*te lol.
As you improve it becomes harder and harder to show improvements and the improvements which are found are smaller. May i liken it to running (sorry), you can knock minutes off a PB when you start, but gradually you become happy when you can knock 15 seconds off or even a second for the faster runners. The same is true in football.
In relation to the singing i think we have suffered due to losing some big voices recently. Also peoples circumstances change and priorities change, the old fans are having kids, getting married and have other priorities, although kiddies corner is growing nicely. But kiddies corner takes the dads away from the singing section.
In three or four games time we could be sitting pretty in the league and sat nicely mid table. That mid table is very close indeed.
I'm going to price up a child minder and three bottles of becks for you and see if I can raise the funds.
On a more serious note, let's all make an effort to get behind them in Tuesday. We don't need a row about who should do what but let's play our part.
Point 1) My wife is a childminder.
Point 2) If only i could drink 3 bottles of becks, one and half is my max these days.
Point 3) Would raising funds not detract from the playing budget?
Point 4) Lets all sing Tuesday.
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Although stuff is said on forum the terrace is fairly tame in fact to tame no atmosphere now i also think that the cheer was for who came on which was densmore
Let's have it right. Much as everyone welcomed the sight of Dens going on, I'm pretty sure he was already stripped and by the pitch ready to go on when the cheer went up. That shameful reaction was in response to number 20 appearing on the board. Echo every word by Pete. Top post - voice of reason!
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I simply despair at all the negativity sometimes.
LS is holding the fort steady and arguably improving the team.
It is easy to improve a sh*te team. Lets face it before he arrived we were pretty sh*te lol.
As you improve it becomes harder and harder to show improvements and the improvements which are found are smaller. May i liken it to running (sorry), you can knock minutes off a PB when you start, but gradually you become happy when you can knock 15 seconds off or even a second for the faster runners. The same is true in football.
In relation to the singing i think we have suffered due to losing some big voices recently. Also peoples circumstances change and priorities change, the old fans are having kids, getting married and have other priorities, although kiddies corner is growing nicely. But kiddies corner takes the dads away from the singing section.
In three or four games time we could be sitting pretty in the league and sat nicely mid table. That mid table is very close indeed.
I'm going to price up a child minder and three bottles of becks for you and see if I can raise the funds.
On a more serious note, let's all make an effort to get behind them in Tuesday. We don't need a row about who should do what but let's play our part.
Point 1) My wife is a childminder.
Point 2) If only i could drink 3 bottles of becks, one and half is my max these days.
Point 3) Would raising funds not detract from the playing budget?
Point 4) Lets all sing Tuesday.
I fear I may be suffering from Teaser Confusion.
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For a part time outfit i feel we do all right.. Were doing ok after what was a pretty sh*tty opening 10/12 fixtures and we do have to take into account the horrendous injury list we have had for the opening quarter of the season.We try to play the game the right way and when it comes off it is indeed pleasant on the eye..
If someone has a bee in their bonnet about certain players then whatever they do they will never be given any credit..
Some folks love a moan and if they choose to air their grievance on this forum then so be it.. What we dont need is the same folks churning out the same crap every time they logon.
--Make your point by all means but we dont need reminding each and every day ffs
The lads need encouragement and support not negativity..
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Point 1) My wife is a childminder - TRUE
Point 2) If only i could drink 3 bottles of becks, one and half is my max these days. - FALSE
Point 3) Would raising funds not detract from the playing budget? - TEASING
Point 4) Lets all sing Tuesday. TRUE
I hope that clears up the confusion :-)
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Wot no VofD comment???
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No comment :-X ;)
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I simply despair at all the negativity sometimes.
LS is holding the fort steady and arguably improving the team.
It is easy to improve a sh*te team. Lets face it before he arrived we were pretty sh*te lol.
As you improve it becomes harder and harder to show improvements and the improvements which are found are smaller. May i liken it to running (sorry), you can knock minutes off a PB when you start, but gradually you become happy when you can knock 15 seconds off or even a second for the faster runners. The same is true in football.
In relation to the singing i think we have suffered due to losing some big voices recently. Also peoples circumstances change and priorities change, the old fans are having kids, getting married and have other priorities, although kiddies corner is growing nicely. But kiddies corner takes the dads away from the singing section.
In three or four games time we could be sitting pretty in the league and sat nicely mid table. That mid table is very close indeed.
I'm going to price up a child minder and three bottles of becks for you and see if I can raise the funds.
On a more serious note, let's all make an effort to get behind them in Tuesday. We don't need a row about who should do what but let's play our part.
I want a song choice from all going Tuesday please
Let's get behind the lads
No kiddy corner at nights
Ecky I will have a sol please
Here are my choices
1. The boy reeves he scores when he wants accapella
2. Give me an A-handclap
3. Sing your hearts out -retro remix
4. We are alty super alty no one's likes us- we don't care remix
5. We hate northwich Victoria - 1989 drill field remix
Want more please
Let's do this
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And we should have a flag evening as well
Please can the bearer of the flags make them available they add to the atmosphere
I will bring the teasers flag
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If every game was segregated, as it should be, all flags that don't go to away games could be hung on the back of the golf road end all the time,
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Well I cheered with relief when Jordan went off , he was totally useless and has been for weeks. Like every other player that's plays I get behind them when on the pitch but as a paying customer I think I'm entitled to my opinion. I remember Kyle Perry getting cheered off, but I didn't read post match comments from Lee Sinnott about a resignation. Whilst I'm not a huge fan of Lee Sinnott , I do appreciate the good work he has done in taking the team forward but think his comments are over the top. The moss lane crowd are very supportive in general.
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100 percent agree with most of what's been said. Though if I can indulge in some light pedantry, Woodley Sports went bust last season under the name of Stockport Sports...
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i have asked several times to no avail what actually did happen to the flags.
i too agree this forum is a shadow of its former self and is mostly doom and gloom
thought we were going forward lots of kids interested but grumpiness shouldnt be a force
the gazelle ...........grumpy old man just trying to be positive
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I didn't attend Saturday, when I eventually found the score out due to being in the wild of the west lakes I saw Altrincham 1-0 Barrow. A superb result against a club with big ambition, and big pockets. Im as good as the next man/woman at totally losing my sh*t at football games, but seriously what the hell is going on? I'm not surprised the manager is pissed off. It must be like a dripping tap from the back of that mainstand. We aren't a big enough club to have factions. Some people seem to derive pleasure from paying 15 quid to bait the manager, and I don't just mean this manager, all of them in my time, apart from king and McKenna..
Well, thanks for tarring us all with the same brush (including James Lawrie's mother, who sits a couple of rows in front of me!).
Anyhow, when did you become an authority on what happens in the main stand, particularly during a match that you didn't attend?!
To my ears, the cheering seemed to emanate from more than one area of the main stand.
It was an excellent substitution by the manager and possibly one which saved the game for us.
Scott Leather needed more protection/assistance down the right flank and Densmore gave us that plus an injection of energy and pace.
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Well I cheered with relief when Jordan went off , he was totally useless and has been for weeks. Like every other player that's plays I get behind them when on the pitch but as a paying customer I think I'm entitled to my opinion. I remember Kyle Perry getting cheered off, but I didn't read post match comments from Lee Sinnott about a resignation. Whilst I'm not a huge fan of Lee Sinnott , I do appreciate the good work he has done in taking the team forward but think his comments are over the top. The moss lane crowd are very supportive in general.
spot on, the only sensible post in this pointless thread
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Fair point, I shouldnt have used a specific area of the stand, that's unfair. firstly as I wouldn't have a clue who sits anywhere in the main stand. But managers have always had baiting from behind them at moss lane. The pantomime stuff is all well and good, but stuff to the detriment of the team is just that, we could be sat in or just outside the top 5 in a weeks time with a bit of luck. Jordan Sinnott might not be the answer at right midfield, but the very public continued belittling of one of our own is not for the match day in my opinion. And maybe his better performances mainly coming away from home might be telling.
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Well I cheered with relief when Jordan went off , he was totally useless and has been for weeks. Like every other player that's plays I get behind them when on the pitch but as a paying customer I think I'm entitled to my opinion. I remember Kyle Perry getting cheered off, but I didn't read post match comments from Lee Sinnott about a resignation. Whilst I'm not a huge fan of Lee Sinnott , I do appreciate the good work he has done in taking the team forward but think his comments are over the top. The moss lane crowd are very supportive in general.
spot on, the only sensible post in this pointless thread
If it's a pointless thread why have you posted in it?
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Fair point, I shouldnt have used a specific area of the stand, that's unfair. firstly as I wouldn't have a clue who sits anywhere in the main stand. But managers have always had baiting from behind them at moss lane. The pantomime stuff is all well and good, but stuff to the detriment of the team is just that, we could be sat in or just outside the top 5 in a weeks time with a bit of luck. Jordan Sinnott might not be the answer at right midfield, but the very public continued belittling of one of our own is not for the match day in my opinion. And maybe his better performances mainly coming away from home might be telling.
A sh*t player got booed - it happens everywhere Pete every ground in the country - get over it
And so should the manager - or can he not because it's his son? Now that could be a problem, because he is a sh*t player and only in the team because his dad's the manager!
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Well I cheered with relief when Jordan went off , he was totally useless and has been for weeks. Like every other player that's plays I get behind them when on the pitch but as a paying customer I think I'm entitled to my opinion. I remember Kyle Perry getting cheered off, but I didn't read post match comments from Lee Sinnott about a resignation. Whilst I'm not a huge fan of Lee Sinnott , I do appreciate the good work he has done in taking the team forward but think his comments are over the top. The moss lane crowd are very supportive in general.
spot on, the only sensible post in this pointless thread
If it's a pointless thread why have you posted in it?
bored in a hotel room in London
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Fair point, I shouldnt have used a specific area of the stand, that's unfair. firstly as I wouldn't have a clue who sits anywhere in the main stand. But managers have always had baiting from behind them at moss lane. The pantomime stuff is all well and good, but stuff to the detriment of the team is just that, we could be sat in or just outside the top 5 in a weeks time with a bit of luck. Jordan Sinnott might not be the answer at right midfield, but the very public continued belittling of one of our own is not for the match day in my opinion. And maybe his better performances mainly coming away from home might be telling.
I've been around long enough to have heard managers being harangued from several different areas of Moss Lane over the years.
Indeed, it's not that long ago that Graham Heathcote was being heckled by some members of the Golf Road End during a home game against Lewes.
I've also heard far, far better players than Jordan Sinnott being criticised.
Just ask Graham Heathcote or even John Davison, two Alty legends who received recurrent abuse from some patrons of The Popular Side during some stages of their Alty careers.
In the 1980s, the undervalued Phil Gardner used to be a target.
And in more recent times, Jason Gallagher took a fair bit of stick, as I recall.
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Well I cheered with relief when Jordan went off , he was totally useless and has been for weeks. Like every other player that's plays I get behind them when on the pitch but as a paying customer I think I'm entitled to my opinion. I remember Kyle Perry getting cheered off, but I didn't read post match comments from Lee Sinnott about a resignation. Whilst I'm not a huge fan of Lee Sinnott , I do appreciate the good work he has done in taking the team forward but think his comments are over the top. The moss lane crowd are very supportive in general.
spot on, the only sensible post in this pointless thread
If it's a pointless thread why have you posted in it?
bored in a hotel room in London
Explore the Corby trouser press
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Fair point, I shouldnt have used a specific area of the stand, that's unfair. firstly as I wouldn't have a clue who sits anywhere in the main stand. But managers have always had baiting from behind them at moss lane. The pantomime stuff is all well and good, but stuff to the detriment of the team is just that, we could be sat in or just outside the top 5 in a weeks time with a bit of luck. Jordan Sinnott might not be the answer at right midfield, but the very public continued belittling of one of our own is not for the match day in my opinion. And maybe his better performances mainly coming away from home might be telling.
A sh*t player got booed - it happens everywhere Pete every ground in the country - get over it
Absolute TOSH. in all my years of watching football have i ever seen ONE PLAYER be singled out and booed off the field. The team at the end of each half yes, but a player getting booed when being substituted is simply low and pathetic. SUPPORT YOUR GOD DAMN TEAM FFS, YOU ARE NOT AN AWAY SUPPORTER.
Damn your post has really p!ssed me off.
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Sinnot, J is a better player then Royle, D. That is my opinion having seen them both play.
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Can I just say that one good reason, when both Clee and Crowther are fit, for Sinnott not playing on the right is that we need to play with real width (albeit in a 451) for James Lawrie to be effective behind the front man.
When Sinnott and to a lesser extent Richman (because he manages to cover so much ground) play on the right it's all a bit tight and he isn't effective.
Reeves goal is a perfect example, it's the movement of the ball out to Crowther that's the key. You could put the Sinnott pass to Rankine on a massive pitch as Wrexham as an example if you wanted too.
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Is this all abit over the top the vast majority didn't know about the reaction to the substitution until lee said it in the paper so it wasn't loud therefore a very small minority
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Must admit to feeling a little embarrassed on saturday, we are a friendly family club and there should be no room for this negativity to any one of our players, however some may feel about how they performed on the day.
I too didnt think Jordan had his best game and Dens did improve us when he came on, but he's a young lad trying his best and he does have ability, what he needs is more encouragement not knocking which cant help his confidence.
He may not be our best player but where would we have been during our recent injury crisis without him?
Let's all get behind the team tomorrow and stop this bickering. :-[
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If it's a choice betweer Sinnott and O'Keefe, I'd rather have Sinnott.
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Players know when things are not right so as supporters why can't people encourage them & help lift them, so they know people are supporting them. It does help, instead of persistently moaning. Because as a genuinely part-time club, we are doing exceedingly well.
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Still no songs shocking
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Fair point, I shouldnt have used a specific area of the stand, that's unfair. firstly as I wouldn't have a clue who sits anywhere in the main stand. But managers have always had baiting from behind them at moss lane. The pantomime stuff is all well and good, but stuff to the detriment of the team is just that, we could be sat in or just outside the top 5 in a weeks time with a bit of luck. Jordan Sinnott might not be the answer at right midfield, but the very public continued belittling of one of our own is not for the match day in my opinion. And maybe his better performances mainly coming away from home might be telling.
A sh*t player got booed - it happens everywhere Pete every ground in the country - get over it
Absolute TOSH. in all my years of watching football have i ever seen ONE PLAYER be singled out and booed off the field. The team at the end of each half yes, but a player getting booed when being substituted is simply low and pathetic. SUPPORT YOUR GOD DAMN TEAM FFS, YOU ARE NOT AN AWAY SUPPORTER.
Damn your post has really p!ssed me off.
Jordan was not booed off the field. Where has that come from?
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Fair point, I shouldnt have used a specific area of the stand, that's unfair. firstly as I wouldn't have a clue who sits anywhere in the main stand. But managers have always had baiting from behind them at moss lane. The pantomime stuff is all well and good, but stuff to the detriment of the team is just that, we could be sat in or just outside the top 5 in a weeks time with a bit of luck. Jordan Sinnott might not be the answer at right midfield, but the very public continued belittling of one of our own is not for the match day in my opinion. And maybe his better performances mainly coming away from home might be telling.
A sh*t player got booed - it happens everywhere Pete every ground in the country - get over it
Absolute TOSH. in all my years of watching football have i ever seen ONE PLAYER be singled out and booed off the field. The team at the end of each half yes, but a player getting booed when being substituted is simply low and pathetic. SUPPORT YOUR GOD DAMN TEAM FFS, YOU ARE NOT AN AWAY SUPPORTER.
Damn your post has really p!ssed me off.
Jordan was not booed off the field. Where has that come from?
Booed, jeered, sarcastic cheers all the same, and all distasteful. Were you one of these people? As for where it came from, it came from here.
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Fair point, I shouldnt have used a specific area of the stand, that's unfair. firstly as I wouldn't have a clue who sits anywhere in the main stand. But managers have always had baiting from behind them at moss lane. The pantomime stuff is all well and good, but stuff to the detriment of the team is just that, we could be sat in or just outside the top 5 in a weeks time with a bit of luck. Jordan Sinnott might not be the answer at right midfield, but the very public continued belittling of one of our own is not for the match day in my opinion. And maybe his better performances mainly coming away from home might be telling.
A sh*t player got booed - it happens everywhere Pete every ground in the country - get over it
Absolute TOSH. in all my years of watching football have i ever seen ONE PLAYER be singled out and booed off the field. The team at the end of each half yes, but a player getting booed when being substituted is simply low and pathetic. SUPPORT YOUR GOD DAMN TEAM FFS, YOU ARE NOT AN AWAY SUPPORTER.
Damn your post has really p!ssed me off.
Jordan was not booed off the field. Where has that come from?
Booed, jeered, sarcastic cheers all the same, and all distasteful. Were you one of these people? As for where it came from, it came from here.
Yeah you are right. It came from this thread and I should have read it better before posting.
Ham.
What makes you say he got booed?
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Fair point, I shouldnt have used a specific area of the stand, that's unfair. firstly as I wouldn't have a clue who sits anywhere in the main stand. But managers have always had baiting from behind them at moss lane. The pantomime stuff is all well and good, but stuff to the detriment of the team is just that, we could be sat in or just outside the top 5 in a weeks time with a bit of luck. Jordan Sinnott might not be the answer at right midfield, but the very public continued belittling of one of our own is not for the match day in my opinion. And maybe his better performances mainly coming away from home might be telling.
A sh*t player got booed - it happens everywhere Pete every ground in the country - get over it
Absolute TOSH. in all my years of watching football have i ever seen ONE PLAYER be singled out and booed off the field. The team at the end of each half yes, but a player getting booed when being substituted is simply low and pathetic. SUPPORT YOUR GOD DAMN TEAM FFS, YOU ARE NOT AN AWAY SUPPORTER.
Damn your post has really p!ssed me off.
Jordan was not booed off the field. Where has that come from?
Booed, jeered, sarcastic cheers all the same, and all distasteful. Were you one of these people? As for where it came from, it came from here.
Were you?
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I was stood near the community hall when the substitution happened and all I heard was a big cheer for the returning, and very important captain. If there was anything negative said about Jordan, it must have simply been a throw away comment by an individual, which so long as it wasn't abusive, they have the perfect right to make as paying customers.
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No vofd I was not, the question is were you as you seem to have avoided my question.
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No vofd I was not, the question is were you as you seem to have avoided my question.
As they say in the justice system,No Comment ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I was stood near the community hall when the substitution happened and all I heard was a big cheer for the returning, and very important captain. If there was anything negative said about Jordan, it must have simply been a throw away comment by an individual, which so long as it wasn't abusive, they have the perfect right to make as paying customers.
Exactly. Well said brian 1925.
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If it's a choice betweer Sinnott and O'Keefe, I'd rather have Sinnott.
I'd rather have Sean Williams......and I'd give Rhain Davies a shot before I'd play O'Keefe again.
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I'm not really sure about being a "paying customer" giving you the right to act like a slapped arse whenever you want.
Surely the point is that we're not simply customers, we're also supporters. The difference between the two is pretty obvious (it's in the name).
Now, of course there might be times when even supporters reach the end of their tether; Lewes away for instance.
But actively celebrating a player coming off in a game we are winning is a bit of a knobish thing to do really. However, it's not that surprising given that some of our fans are knobs.
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I am very fortunate in that I get to meet and talk about football with lots of people both during the week and also on a Saturday.
These people include scouts from Clubs significantly higher (and lower) in the food chain than we are.
People love a good tackle, the sort we at Alty have seen over the years from the likes of Kingy, Graham Barrow, Eddie Bishop, Carmo and Eddie Hussin. Tackles get people of their seats and energise them - I suppose it's a bit like watching Gladiators must have been like in Roman times.
Anyhow I digress a bit.
Several of the scouts I have spoken with have quickly and I believe correctly identified that Mr Sinnott Jr has played a lot of academy football and not very much first team football, particularly not at our level. I wasn't entirely aware of this at the time but having now watched some academy football I can see what they mean.
People don't tackle in academy football. they press, they try to intercept but very rarely do they actually commit to a tackle. Consequently they have time on the ball because nobody tackles them either.
Young Mr Sinnott is still acclimatising to the change. Give him time to do so and the quality he must possess to have been playing at the level he did will show. He does actually have a very good passing range were anyone to give him a chance and look at him as a player and not the Manager's son!!
Oh and as for the hackneyed claim that he only plays because he's the Manager's Son that really is too lazy and pathetic a theory to warrant anything other than absolute contempt.
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I said all I needed to say about Jordan Sinnott on a thread a few weeks back:
...he has quite clearly been a factor in us being sat four points clear after a hellacious start to the season (after we face Braintree on Saturday, we've played nine of the league's current top ten teams.) We are where we are because as a collective team we have performed to a certain standard. Some fans have a naïve and quite frankly weird habit of always wanting to isolate players, criticising them separately from the progress that the team are making...
My opinion hasn't changed and I will continue to support Jordan every time he pulls on the red and white stripes.
I'd like to think that up and down the country, every club has that little assembly of weird fans that just moan constantly about trivial things. However to be brutally honest I think we probably get laughed at by other fans in this league, and why wouldn't they if they came on here and read some of the threads? Its utterly bizarre some of the stuff you read on here sometimes.
If the manager's son was mint there would no doubt be something else, another reason to contribute nothing but negativity while others try to support the club. As the OP says, we've made steady progress each season. We've done it playing some good football and we won the play-offs in the most un-Alty way imaginable. We're six points clear after playing just four of our opening fourteen games against (current) bottom half sides. Bloody cheer up.
On to more urgent matters...
Still no songs shocking
D - I - S - C - O. Looking forward to tomorrow, lets pack the Golf Road.
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I am very fortunate in that I get to meet and talk about football with lots of people both during the week and also on a Saturday.
These people include scouts from Clubs significantly higher (and lower) in the food chain than we are.
People love a good tackle, the sort we at Alty have seen over the years from the likes of Kingy, Graham Barrow, Eddie Bishop, Carmo and Eddie Hussin. Tackles get people of their seats and energise them - I suppose it's a bit like watching Gladiators must have been like in Roman times.
Anyhow I digress a bit.
Several of the scouts I have spoken with have quickly and I believe correctly identified that Mr Sinnott Jr has played a lot of academy football and not very much first team football, particularly not at our level. I wasn't entirely aware of this at the time but having now watched some academy football I can see what they mean.
People don't tackle in academy football. they press, they try to intercept but very rarely do they actually commit to a tackle. Consequently they have time on the ball because nobody tackles them either.
Young Mr Sinnott is still acclimatising to the change. Give him time to do so and the quality he must possess to have been playing at the level he did will show. He does actually have a very good passing range were anyone to give him a chance and look at him as a player and not the Manager's son!!
Oh and as for the hackneyed claim that he only plays because he's the Manager's Son that really is too lazy and pathetic a theory to warrant anything other than absolute contempt.
:)
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He does actually have a very good passing range were anyone to give him a chance and look at him as a player and not the Manager's son!!
Phil,
In a strange way though, I suspect that what happened to Lee Sinnott on Saturday was that he himself reacted primarily a father and not as a manager.
Understandable....but also unusual for him, as in his public pronouncements regarding the team and/or his son, he habitually makes a point of keeping the professional and the personal aspects quite separate.
One thing that genuinely perplexes me is why anyone would ever want to work for their father or even play in a football team that their father manages.
It's a classic no-win situation.
Any credit is inevitably at a premium and you automatically leave yourself exposed to accusations of nepotism, even though such claims may be unjust.
Bewildering choice.
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I agree with that Barry (and for the first time in a while with ATS) but I think I posted elsewhere that at least LS knows what he is getting rather than a stab in the dark at O'Keefe, Gillespie etc and surely he can't be a highly paid player.
He did have a few games in league one last season too so it's not like he's been playing for the dog and duck (although I think in time his level will be lower than where we are now).
Anyway, we will see.
I certainly despair of the academy system. Aside from being biased about Duncan he was u21 league player of the year but is not deemed worthy of a regular start. If that's the case what are the rest of the u21 players doing?
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I said all I needed to say about Jordan Sinnott on a thread a few weeks back:
...he has quite clearly been a factor in us being sat four points clear after a hellacious start to the season (after we face Braintree on Saturday, we've played nine of the league's current top ten teams.) We are where we are because as a collective team we have performed to a certain standard. Some fans have a naïve and quite frankly weird habit of always wanting to isolate players, criticising them separately from the progress that the team are making...
My opinion hasn't changed and I will continue to support Jordan every time he pulls on the red and white stripes.
I'd like to think that up and down the country, every club has that little assembly of weird fans that just moan constantly about trivial things. However to be brutally honest I think we probably get laughed at by other fans in this league, and why wouldn't they if they came on here and read some of the threads? Its utterly bizarre some of the stuff you read on here sometimes.
If the manager's son was mint there would no doubt be something else, another reason to contribute nothing but negativity while others try to support the club. As the OP says, we've made steady progress each season. We've done it playing some good football and we won the play-offs in the most un-Alty way imaginable. We're six points clear after playing just four of our opening fourteen games against (current) bottom half sides. Bloody cheer up.
On to more urgent matters...
Still no songs shocking
D - I - S - C - O. Looking forward to tomorrow, lets pack the Golf Road.
(http://i66.tinypic.com/2zq5v1l.jpg)
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I thought he took his goal magnificently today
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I thought he took his goal magnificently today
Struck it brilliantly.............they go in the net or end up in the King George car park
Is 'not playing when your Dad's watching', having an impact ?...........my lad always seemed to play better when I wasn't there........or so everyone told me ;D
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I thought he took his goal magnificently today
Struck it brilliantly.............they go in the net or end up in the King George car park
Is 'not playing when your Dad's watching', having an impact ?...........my lad always seemed to play better when I wasn't there........or so everyone told me ;D
I think someone was telling you something. ;)
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Fine finish