www.altyfans.co.uk
General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Mrs Warbouys on November 12, 2011, 05:05:29 PM
-
Disgrace to the shirt, hammered by midtable crap without a whimper, if we want to be in the shake up come April,we need a new defence, and a midfielder with some bollocks, time for a reality check.Our defence is sh*t, and we've no character apart from the goalkeeper.Stuart the only one that seems to care, furious at another £100 wasted
-
How you rated Stuart today is beyond me, his distribution is woeful, he remains rooted to the line and our defence are afraid to use him as a viable option when they are under pressure. Contrast this with their keeper who was used to mop up and distribute at will.
Also Clee was clearly playing the second half with an injury that was caused before half time. Surely he should have been subbed at HT rather than face coming out second half and then having the team carry him for 45 mins. Chances were also badly spurned today, two clear cut from Reeves and a great opportunity wasted by Twiss
-
Disgrace to the shirt, hammered by midtable crap without a whimper, if we want to be in the shake up come April,we need a new defence, and a midfielder with some bollocks, time for a reality check.Our defence is sh*t, and we've no character apart from the goalkeeper.Stuart the only one that seems to care, furious at another £100 wasted
Talk about overkill and knee jerk reactions. I have not read a more ridiculous thread title for years
Worcester have a very good home record and we have a poor away record. Some of that may be psychological but rest assured that your suggestions are bound to help if it is
-
Do me a favour Phil,attend away games more than a tram ride and then I'll hold your opinion with any sway.It's all very well pontificating from The comfort of your living room.Worcester are toilet and not a fan clapped us off today,as much as we dress it up, we are rubbish.And the scathing remarks of so many loyalists in the pub after shows this is not acceptable.It's not an over reaction, out defence Is woeful, look at the goals conceeded Coloum if you think I'm over reacting.....
-
And what's more Phil. We are the only side of any note theyve actually beaten at home, they are top half due to having the worlds easiest home fixtures in the first 3 months...
-
I was there and I have to say it was another disappointing trek the away fans - yet another abject display
Our defence is poor - particulary Williams (subbed at half time). I have said on here before - his distribution is poor he is not aggresive enough given his size - He heads the ball upwards rather than getting any depth on it. In all honesty we knew he wasnt good since the days of Greg Young who use to marshall the back four - He went to Telford and they obviously saw flaws in his game. Im sorry Robbie but it is the truth.. Densmore and Danylyk had a poor game today, We won hardly any second balls, Redshaw didnt stand a chance with high oportunist balls being pumped up to him - probably one of the smallest strikers in the league - there central defenders probably wont have an easier game all season Jack has talent but we fail to play to his strengths. Damo Reeves ran his heart out but today his first touch wasnt good. Twissy is too one footed for his own good, I
I go to away fixtures these days, hoping to get something rather than expecting it.. How can our home form be so different - its a patch of grass at the end of the day ffs. The crowds in this league are not big enough to make a difference. Worcester are no world beaters but they wanted it more
The only plus from today is that the drive home only took an hour...
I agree to a point with Hughesy - Its time to ship a few out (favourites or not) and get some fkn passion back in the squad
It was that bad today I didnt even hear Dennis having a go.... (did they lock him on the coach).
Come on Alty you have got to show some passion when we go on the road.
-
its funny that we still have half a squad who have won at places like grimsby, darlington and so no... but struggle in this league, williams needs to be sent back, nothing in the midfield, densmore should should stick to the right not centre mid!
-
Do me a favour Phil,attend away games more than a tram ride and then I'll hold your opinion with any sway.It's all very well pontificating from The comfort of your living room.Worcester are toilet and not a fan clapped us off today,as much as we dress it up, we are rubbish.And the scathing remarks of so many loyalists in the pub after shows this is not acceptable.It's not an over reaction, out defence Is woeful, look at the goals conceeded Coloum if you think I'm over reacting.....
Dave?
I do not comment on performances which I haven't seen and, if you look again you will see that I have not commented on the performance.
There are at least two reasons why I choose not to venture away. Firstly I regularly have footballing commitments which I arrange for dates when we are away so that I don't miss home games. Secondly I am currently unwaged for reasons I will not bring up here as this is not the place for politics. I would suggest however that not attending away matches does not make me less of a supporter nor should it in any way devalue my opinions, particularly when they do not mention away performances.
I observed that Worcester have a good home record. This can be statistically proven irrespective of whom they might have played to date.
I observed that we have a poor away record. Again there is statistical evidence to support this.
I postulated that our poor away record might be having some psychological effect on the players which can then make it almost a self fulfilling prophesy.
And finally I intimated that, in my view, your (again in my personal opinion) knee jerk and overkill reaction was unlikely to help if this is indeed the case.
-
After Lee\s comments in the week I expect we'll see some players released and some new ones in before our next game (if Lee is working).
-
Do me a favour Phil,attend away games more than a tram ride and then I'll hold your opinion with any sway.It's all very well pontificating from The comfort of your living room.Worcester are toilet and not a fan clapped us off today,as much as we dress it up, we are rubbish.And the scathing remarks of so many loyalists in the pub after shows this is not acceptable.It's not an over reaction, out defence Is woeful, look at the goals conceeded Coloum if you think I'm over reacting.....
Dave?
I do not comment on performances which I haven't seen and, if you look again you will see that I have not commented on the performance.
There are at least two reasons why I choose not to venture away. Firstly I regularly have footballing commitments which I arrange for dates when we are away so that I don't miss home games. Secondly I am currently unwaged for reasons I will not bring up here as this is not the place for politics. I would suggest however that not attending away matches does not make me less of a supporter nor should it in any way devalue my opinions, particularly when they do not mention away performances.
I observed that Worcester have a good home record. This can be statistically proven irrespective of whom they might have played to date.
I observed that we have a poor away record. Again there is statistical evidence to support this.
I postulated that our poor away record might be having some psychological effect on the players which can then make it almost a self fulfilling prophesy.
And finally I intimated that, in my view, your (again in my personal opinion) knee jerk and overkill reaction was unlikely to help if this is indeed the case.
im not getting drawn into the bulk of the thread however i agree mentaly there is something the players must be doubting away vs home its a strange one
Are they up for it more at home? Less nervous? Who knows
Its going to cost us dear at this rate
-
Another thing thats a real shame is the lads had an opportunity to shine in the abscence of the manager but chose not to
-
Why on earth do we not just slow down away from home?
At home we take our time and pick teams off, away from home it's almost like we have to score after 19 seconds...
I'd rather go in at HT 0-0 having defended well than tried to blow teams out of the water and be losing
-
Dare I say we use the GH tactics away from home of making sure we don't concede and try to poach a goal in the 2nd half.
-
Agree totally with starting comments. We are woeful defending front to back. We create a fair amount of chances which are dependent on whether our strikeforce have put boots on right feet? I said at the the last crisis meeting we switch off but recently we don't even switch on. Boston & Colwyn were clearly blips? (i saw both games). I doubt we can make wholesale changes, but that is what is needed. There have been too many poor performances to suggest motivation might get us out of it?
-
We should start at a 4-5-1 till we Settle down Which would be around 15-20mins then change
-
We should start at a 4-5-1 till we Settle down Which would be around 15-20mins then change
Finally!
And when we do attack, it can convert to 4-3-3 very quickly!
Like Manchester united when they played arsenal in the CL SF few years back
-
sounds to me from this forum and particularly this thread that few of us have much faith in either the management teams tactics or signings?
therefore shouldnt the question really be dont we need a new management team? with fresh ideas, fresh contacts and able to consistently motivate the team?
-
sounds to me from this forum and particularly this thread that few of us have much faith in either the management teams tactics or signings?
therefore shouldnt the question really be dont we need a new management team? with fresh ideas, fresh contacts and able to consistently motivate the team?
And so it begins....
-
sounds to me from this forum and particularly this thread that few of us have much faith in either the management teams tactics or signings?
therefore shouldnt the question really be dont we need a new management team? with fresh ideas, fresh contacts and able to consistently motivate the team?
And so it begins....
only a suggestion in light of the fact that pretty well every thread on this forum is either critical of the management teams tactics or the team they pick.....or both
-
We could get through a manager a week on this forum :)
-
The management team have to go with what they have got until they can shuffle the pack.I am sure that they are aware of where the problems lie,we as fans just have to be patient until the right formula is found for our away form to match that of our home form.In our club's situation it is not just possible to go out there and bring in the players that we require at just the click of a finger.
-
The players are just not performing to the standards that we know they can
-
I normally get to the ground a couple of mins before KO so I don't see any of the pre match preparation.
Last Saturday was an exception, I was early enough to witness the 20 mins prior to KO and what I saw worried me.
The routine our players were going through seemed to lack focus it certainly wasn't sharp or bright. The whole thing looked lethargic and amateurish to me.
An old saying came to mind ....fail to prepare, prepare to fail. Frankly I feel that match was lost before we kicked off.
Worcester, no great shakes, were just brighter seized the initiative and never really lost it. We on the other hand struggled to shake off the lethargy so apparent during the warm up.
There have been a number of calls to sack the lot, not fit to wear the shirt etc and whilst I admit we could do with a few Eddie Hussin's I think with better preparation we could do a lot better with the players we have.
It's not only about having the will to win, which I suspect most of our squad have, its about being willing to prepare to win. That is entirely different. Anyone who isn't willing to prepare to win should be shown the door.
-
A really poor display yesterday. I've been to two games this season, this one and Solihull, so I've really picked them so far! My next game I'm afraid is FCUM... I agree with those who have said that we have to change the way we play away from home, and start being more solid and hard to break down. Let's grind out a couple of 0-0s if needs be and then go from there. A few other observations:
- Flynn looks anything but the captain of a Conf North winning side as he was a couple of years back. He looks slow and frankly lazy. And he really must cut out the 50 yard glory balls he tried to play pretty much every time he got the ball yesterday. It was back to the bad old days.
- I'm not sure how we accommodate him, because him and Reeves is not a natural striking partnership, but Redshaw has to start and soon. He's a class act and his movement will cause no end of problems in this league.
- Densmore is cutting a very frustrated figure, I think because he thinks he's too good for this league. He's not and the sooner he comes to terms with that the better for him and us.
- I'm sorry but for me, Tolson's look-at-me, Mourinho wannabe triple substitution was all wrong. We ended up with Clee in the middle (and we all know how well that works) and no width at all. He'd not done much but why take off Lawrie when you need goals? Why bring on Lawton? He scarpered around in his usual effortful but ineffective way and was never going to help us in that situation. Where was Richman?
When we go behind, we sulk and whinge and behave as if the world's against us. The truth is, we remind me of those ex-League teams we used to play (and take the piss out of) who simply hadn't come to terms with their relegation.
This lot need to be told a few home truths and sharpish. Not good enough
-
A really poor display yesterday. I've been to two games this season, this one and Solihull, so I've really picked them so far! My next game I'm afraid is FCUM... I agree with those who have said that we have to change the way we play away from home, and start being more solid and hard to break down. Let's grind out a couple of 0-0s if needs be and then go from there. A few other observations:
- Flynn looks anything but the captain of a Conf North winning side as he was a couple of years back. He looks slow and frankly lazy. And he really must cut out the 50 yard glory balls he tried to play pretty much every time he got the ball yesterday. It was back to the bad old days.
- I'm not sure how we accommodate him, because him and Reeves is not a natural striking partnership, but Redshaw has to start and soon. He's a class act and his movement will cause no end of problems in this league.
- Densmore is cutting a very frustrated figure, I think because he thinks he's too good for this league. He's not and the sooner he comes to terms with that the better for him and us.
- I'm sorry but for me, Tolson's look-at-me, Mourinho wannabe triple substitution was all wrong. We ended up with Clee in the middle (and we all know how well that works) and no width at all. He'd not done much but why take off Lawrie when you need goals? Why bring on Lawton? He scarpered around in his usual effortful but ineffective way and was never going to help us in that situation. Where was Richman?
When we go behind, we sulk and whinge and behave as if the world's against us. The truth is, we remind me of those ex-League teams we used to play (and take the piss out of) who simply hadn't come to terms with their relegation.
This lot need to be told a few home truths and sharpish. Not good enough
I can assure you that Shaun doesn't think he's too good for this league. At the risk of upsetting Market Dave again (who thinks Shaun is not interested), the reason for his frustration, I believe, is because his team is not winning.
When are we going to give over with the conspiracy theories and the sniping folk? We may not be pulling up every tree but we are just outside the playoffs despite our poor away record so surely, if the action of choice is criticism could we not make it a bit more constructive?
-
A really poor display yesterday. I've been to two games this season, this one and Solihull, so I've really picked them so far! My next game I'm afraid is FCUM... I agree with those who have said that we have to change the way we play away from home, and start being more solid and hard to break down. Let's grind out a couple of 0-0s if needs be and then go from there. A few other observations:
- Flynn looks anything but the captain of a Conf North winning side as he was a couple of years back. He looks slow and frankly lazy. And he really must cut out the 50 yard glory balls he tried to play pretty much every time he got the ball yesterday. It was back to the bad old days.
- I'm not sure how we accommodate him, because him and Reeves is not a natural striking partnership, but Redshaw has to start and soon. He's a class act and his movement will cause no end of problems in this league.
- Densmore is cutting a very frustrated figure, I think because he thinks he's too good for this league. He's not and the sooner he comes to terms with that the better for him and us.
- I'm sorry but for me, Tolson's look-at-me, Mourinho wannabe triple substitution was all wrong. We ended up with Clee in the middle (and we all know how well that works) and no width at all. He'd not done much but why take off Lawrie when you need goals? Why bring on Lawton? He scarpered around in his usual effortful but ineffective way and was never going to help us in that situation. Where was Richman?
When we go behind, we sulk and whinge and behave as if the world's against us. The truth is, we remind me of those ex-League teams we used to play (and take the piss out of) who simply hadn't come to terms with their relegation.
This lot need to be told a few home truths and sharpish. Not good enough
I can assure you that Shaun doesn't think he's too good for this league. At the risk of upsetting Market Dave again (who thinks Shaun is not interested), the reason for his frustration, I believe, is because his team is not winning.
When are we going to give over with the conspiracy theories and the sniping folk? We may not be pulling up every tree but we are just outside the playoffs despite our poor away record so surely, if the action of choice is criticism could we not make it a bit more constructive?
Phil, he's hardly going to tell you that he thinks he's too good for this league even if he does think it, is he?
But let me rephrase: on Saturday, he acted like he was too good for this league. That's not a conspiracy theory, it's what I saw.
And constructive criticism is for the dressing room. This is a fans forum and if people have negative views about the team (and how exactly you'd be positive about Saturday, I've no idea) then those are the views they ought to express.
-
I'm not going to single out individual players, but what upsets me is the reaction to the managers warning shot/rallying call last week.We were Dreadful on Saturday, and Worcester are midtable outfit that were without their best players.It's good that people want to defend the team and deflect criticism away from them.But Saturday, like the previous away game, (which was at stalybridge Celtic not Barcelona) was a horror show.Centre backs should be ten a penny at this level, I simply cannot understand what's the policy is at the back.I'd send both loan players back now if we can and take a couple of decent centre backs,on loan if needs be.Anyside with any pace upfront has got the beating of us, vauxhall came close, teams will come to moss lane and start attacking soon