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Title: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on September 30, 2020, 09:43:31 AM
First 6 pointer going off the bookmakers prices.

Like most people,  only seen last nights friendly.

                               Thompson

Densmore  Malarkey  Hannigan  Hampson

                        Moult  Richman

        Ceesey     Hancock     Kosylo

                           Hulme

Going off last night looks we have 4 full backs of similar quality, 3 holding mids of similar quality. Would be quite happy to see Miller start on the right.

Alty 2-1 Weymouth.  Hulme Kosylo. Attn 0
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: MadFrankie on September 30, 2020, 09:53:07 AM
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Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: Toff Apple on September 30, 2020, 10:02:06 AM
I think it will be a tough one, 1-0 alty is what i hoping for, need Hancock fit though
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on September 30, 2020, 10:14:00 AM
I think it will be a tough one, 1-0 alty is what i hoping for, need Hancock fit though

Yes, Hanks would be good, but he has missed 2 games I think, so wont start in my opinion if fit.

Would think Clayton will get the nod, although Tom has had a good pre-season and pushing for a start.
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on September 30, 2020, 12:44:56 PM
I'd start Williams ahead of Richman. I could be seriously tempted to try Mullarkey at RB.
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on September 30, 2020, 05:11:00 PM
Wasn't aware Hancock was injured (must pay more attention!)

Kosylo in the 10 and Miller LW if thats the case
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 30, 2020, 05:38:36 PM
If Hancock is not fit for weekend, I can't see Parky looking beyond Clayton at 10 behind Jordan.
Kosylo must be nailed on. The bigger decision, for me, is Ceesay or Miller.
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on September 30, 2020, 06:30:45 PM
If Hancock is not fit for weekend, I can't see Parky looking beyond Clayton at 10 behind Jordan.
Kosylo must be nailed on. The bigger decision, for me, is Ceesay or Miller.

If no Hancock I'd try Kosolo behind Hulme.
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 03, 2020, 08:23:36 AM
Best of luck to all the players today. What a chance to get off to a flyer, we’re a good side, and we know our own patch. The whole town will be behind you, even if we can’t be on the terraces
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: that man showler on October 03, 2020, 08:33:22 AM
Presume the pitch is holding well dispite the heavy rain.
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on October 03, 2020, 09:18:26 AM
To all OUR players :

We know you can do this today. You have the ability, fitness and togetherness that will be needed.

We fans have waited a while to be back in the National and are all gutted we can't be there to roar you on to victory but we're there in spirit (and on the streaming service 😉). Never forget that we're all behind you.

Come on you Super Robins, play your best and make us proud!!
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: JD on October 03, 2020, 02:58:16 PM
To all OUR players :

We know you can do this today. You have the ability, fitness and togetherness that will be needed.

We fans have waited a while to be back in the National and are all gutted we can't be there to roar you on to victory but we're there in spirit (and on the streaming service 😉). Never forget that we're all behind you.

Come on you Super Robins, play your best and make us proud!!

 :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: Leeds Leeds Alty on October 03, 2020, 03:01:20 PM
I will go for us getting an early lead and coming out 3 1 winners 
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: JD on October 03, 2020, 03:01:58 PM
Delighted to see Hancock playing.
Should be allowed to choose from 7 subs at this level.

Ceesay is playing in flippers!
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on October 03, 2020, 03:09:31 PM
I notice that the home and away dugouts have been swapped over.
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on October 03, 2020, 04:57:00 PM
Eighth! One off the play-offs.
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: JD on October 03, 2020, 04:58:09 PM
Eighth! One off the play-offs.

 :D

All the players are in credit from that performance. Special mention to the ref and the Altrincham Curling Team!
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on October 03, 2020, 05:03:10 PM
Yes, wasn't expecting the synchronised swimming at half time. 
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 03, 2020, 05:04:35 PM

I'm really not convinced that the referee should have started that game

Alas, it was an almost inevitable utter washout as a spectacle, in every sense of the word.

Both teams merited a point.

Aside from the obvious abyss left by the sudden departure of Hulme, I remain somewhat troubled by the failure to bolster central midfield in the absence of Lundstram.


 
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: JD on October 03, 2020, 05:08:02 PM

I'm really not convinced that the referee should have started that game

Alas, it was an almost inevitable utter washout as a spectacle, in every sense of the word.

Both teams merited a point.

Aside from the obvious abyss left by the sudden departure of Hulme, I remain somewhat troubled by the failure to bolster central midfield in the absence of Lundstram.


 

I think once Weymouth had made the journey the ref was always going to play, especially after the fiasco at (was it?) Spennymoor.

Totally agree about centre mid: all the 3 there are good, but I fear they could be picked apart by the best Nat league teams. Lundstram made such a significant difference. Maybe Mullarkey might fill that gap as I thought he didn't out a foot wrong today.
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on October 03, 2020, 05:13:39 PM
poor game but given the conditions understandable.

mullarkie was my mom
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on October 03, 2020, 05:15:21 PM
Indeed, Mullarkey was my MOM. I thought the ref did well. A draw was fair. We need more punch up front, preferably before Wednesday night.
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on October 03, 2020, 05:23:28 PM

I'm really not convinced that the referee should have started that game

Alas, it was an almost inevitable utter washout as a spectacle, in every sense of the word.

Both teams merited a point.

Aside from the obvious abyss left by the sudden departure of Hulme, I remain somewhat troubled by the failure to bolster central midfield in the absence of Lundstram.


 

I think once Weymouth had made the journey the ref was always going to play, especially after the fiasco at (was it?) Spennymoor.

Totally agree about centre mid: all the 3 there are good, but I fear they could be picked apart by the best Nat league teams. Lundstram made such a significant difference. Maybe Mullarkey might fill that gap as I thought he didn't out a foot wrong today.

Agree with all of this. Two newly promoted sides it was always going to be a cagey affair & then the rain exacerbated that. Notts County on Weds should show us the real level we need to reach. A draw was fair & we defended very well but definitely need to carry more of a threat going forward.
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on October 03, 2020, 05:28:30 PM
I think everybody played well today - Kysolo and Ceesay look like they will provide a threat once they have someone to aim for. I thought Williams did well too, as did both centre halves. We're not bad, but we do need to spend some of the Hulme cash fairly quickly.

As others have said, a huge well done to everybody involved in getting that game on today.
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on October 03, 2020, 05:31:32 PM
Malarkey was very good.

Terrible conditions.

Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on October 03, 2020, 07:22:06 PM
Fair play to the ref and both teams in getting the game played to a conclusion. I reckon if it had been a local team playing us then  it wouldn’t have gone ahead which is fair enough

We played with 8 sweepers today . They all played a blinder at half time..
Happy with a point.

Onwards and Upwards.
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: AltyFan101 on October 03, 2020, 08:13:16 PM
Don't think we could have asked for much more than a point today, it's very difficult to create chances in those conditions and I don't think either team ever looked like they were going to score, a draw is a fair result. 

Hard to properly draw conclusions on performances from today but I can imagine Parky will be looking to reinvest the money from Hulme into a striker and central midfielder and maybe another winger if there's any money leftover.  Today we missed Lundstram as much as we missed Hulme in my opinion although Toby did a fantastic job at switching the ball and passing it long in very difficult underfoot conditions.  My man of the match and not surprised to see others share the same view.

Hopefully a surface that better suits us on Wednesday at Notts (who lost to Dover today), a point there would be absolutely massive.  Hopefully an update on Mooney some time soon.
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: JD on October 03, 2020, 09:04:20 PM
Fair play to the ref and both teams in getting the game played to a conclusion. I reckon if it had been a local team playing us then  it wouldn’t have gone ahead which is fair enough

We played with 8 sweepers today . They all played a blinder at half time..
Happy with a point.

Onwards and Upwards.

Brilliant!!!!!
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: chesteralty on October 03, 2020, 09:18:58 PM
Loathe to criticise anyone owing to the conditions today but I've thought for a while that Tom Peers isn't really up to the job. Dont mind if people think otherwise but he's never convinced me.
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: VofD on October 03, 2020, 10:55:03 PM
Me neither.



Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: JD on October 03, 2020, 11:04:53 PM
Loathe to criticise anyone owing to the conditions today but I've thought for a while that Tom Peers isn't really up to the job. Dont mind if people think otherwise but he's never convinced me.

A very handy sub and back up, but never our top forward...
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Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 04, 2020, 09:32:07 AM
Loathe to criticise anyone owing to the conditions today but I've thought for a while that Tom Peers isn't really up to the job. Dont mind if people think otherwise but he's never convinced me.

Rain should have stopped play. As Pete said in the pub, in the FA Cup or playing Halifax it'd have been off.

But some of his touches were abysmal and wouldn't have look out of place when were playing Matlock or Coalville.

Cisse's frustration/attitude to conditions also disappointed me. Don't run through puddles ask for longer balls to chase through the middle.
Kosolo cheap cards also a concern. Lucky not to be suspended.

But franky what worried me was the bench. A CB, defensive CM, LB accompanied by an unproven reserve player and Max Clayton whose not been prolific in pre-season. With such poor conditions I never felt there was a plan B. Each player came on and tried to pass through water or worse run the ball through.

Conditions side; Durrell Lundstrum and Hulme all need to be replaced. Williams and Peers aren't anywhere close to their standard.
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on October 04, 2020, 09:59:48 AM
Certainly a big test for PP and Co to spend wisely and bring in a midfielder and a striker.
I've got every faith in them having irons in the fire already.
imo Williams is okay but I'm afraid I have to agree with others that, although I like him, Peers will never be more than a bench player for us and an impact sub. Would love to be proven wrong but the clock is ticking for him until signings are made.
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: Toff Apple on October 04, 2020, 11:07:06 AM
I thought we did ok, the conditions ruined the game, its unfair to label all the criticism on peers, hes a totally different type of striker and plays a good role as one of the other 3.  We need someone upfront who can make the ball stick, in a game like that it was too hard to progress down the wings,  a younger version of kyle perry, rankine etc.  Unless we change our style i dont think we need a poacher etc , as peers can do that but as a front 2
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: JD on October 04, 2020, 11:12:29 AM
Certainly a big test for PP and Co to spend wisely and bring in a midfielder and a striker.
I've got every faith in them having irons in the fire already.
imo Williams is okay but I'm afraid I have to agree with others that, although I like him, Peers will never be more than a bench player for us and an impact sub. Would love to be proven wrong but the clock is ticking for him until signings are made.

I thought he was decent yesterday; but is "Decent" and "okay" good enough for this league?

I said at the start of the summer we need a better centre mid (though I do believe Mullarkey could do that job), and I still believe that to be the case.

One thing that did impress me was that, with how many times in the past we would have given away a late goal, how we stayed solid until the very end.
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on October 04, 2020, 11:27:19 AM
I don't think it would be fair to judge anyone's season's prospects based on yesterday.
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: JTH on October 04, 2020, 11:35:20 AM
Loathe to criticise anyone owing to the conditions today but I've thought for a while that Tom Peers isn't really up to the job. Dont mind if people think otherwise but he's never convinced me.

Rain should have stopped play. As Pete said in the pub, in the FA Cup or playing Halifax it'd have been off.

But some of his touches were abysmal and wouldn't have look out of place when were playing Matlock or Coalville.

Cisse's frustration/attitude to conditions also disappointed me. Don't run through puddles ask for longer balls to chase through the middle.
Kosolo cheap cards also a concern. Lucky not to be suspended.

But franky what worried me was the bench. A CB, defensive CM, LB accompanied by an unproven reserve player and Max Clayton whose not been prolific in pre-season. With such poor conditions I never felt there was a plan B. Each player came on and tried to pass through water or worse run the ball through.

Conditions side; Durrelll Lundstrum and Hulme all need to be replaced. Williams and Peers aren't anywhere close to their standard.

Kosylo does this I think, agree on the other two. Sean W always at his best when we dominate possession, unlikely to do this for long spells this season.
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on October 04, 2020, 12:32:42 PM
Looking on the bright side 🔆, the Reserves beat Middlewich 4-0 in a Cheshire League fixture yesterday according to the NLP. 😊😉
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on October 04, 2020, 01:36:24 PM
Not reading too much into yesterday at all as it was a non event in that weather and should have been off, but I continue to fear that we won't reach last season's levels if we don't find a replacement for what Josh Lundstram brought to the side.

Toby Mullarkey was mustard.

Loathe to criticise anyone owing to the conditions today but I've thought for a while that Tom Peers isn't really up to the job. Dont mind if people think otherwise but he's never convinced me.

All eyes are going to be on Tom Peers until we find a replacement and I get that, but he's never had a consistent run in the side.

Of course we need to find a replacement for Hulme, and I trust that we will. I just hope that should we struggle offensively in the mean time, that the criticism doesn't lie entirely with our stand-in number 9. We have real threats on the wings in Kosylo and Ceesay, with Mooney to return - the burden is as equally on them to step up as it is with whoever we play up front, in my opinion.

Personally, I'd like to see us adapt and go with Max Clayton as a deeper forward, sort of Firmino-esque, allowing our wingers to come inside more. Having watched him a bit in pre-season that seems to be what he likes to do. In Parky we trust.
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 04, 2020, 01:48:07 PM
When does the transfer window close
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: AltyFan101 on October 04, 2020, 02:06:34 PM
I'm struggling to get why there is so much criticism of Tom Peers.  You cannot go judging his performance based off the game yesterday because any forward in the league would have struggled to impact the game on that pitch.  I feel like the only reason for this negativity is because he's not the same player as Jordan Hulme which has always seemed to upset people.  Obviously he's not near Hulme in terms of what Jordan could do out of possession and also in terms of holding the ball up but Tom is excellent at being in the right position to score goals which is what you want from a poacher.  I do agree with Andrew, though, I would quite like to see Clayton brought into that deep-lying forward role where he can use his creativity to create chances for the wingers and also Hancock.

In terms of the midfield I'm sure most will agree that we need to strengthen because Lundstram was such a pivotal player for us last season and he is going to be missed a lot.  Do I think Mullarkey is capable of playing there?  Yes.  But I think he is best playing as a ball-playing centre-back as he has excellent composure and he is brilliant with the ball at his feet - he has the ability to run through teams that sit back and give him space and he is also the second-best passer in the team after Moult so is capable of finding the forwards with long passes whilst under pressure.  No reason to change the back line that has done fantastically for us recently although I was a little surprised to see White favoured over Hampson for the game yesterday.

Let's bring the positivity back and get behind the lads, I'm sure they'll look a lot brighter on Wednesday on a better pitch.  Let's hope we see the same level of determination and spirit we saw against Pompey last year and let's show the rest of the league why we are one of the most exciting, promising and best-drilled teams in the division.

By the way, any updates on Mooney?
Title: Re: Saturday Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on October 04, 2020, 02:41:43 PM
I think the real point is that to win games in this league you need a big, strong and mobile player up front to bully the lofty centre backs that abound and to hold the ball up. Peers is a useful player for us but not that player. Parky needs to sign one pronto and I'm sure he will