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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Ideas 4 Alty on July 27, 2007, 10:24:41 AM
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There seems to be an increasing tendancy for BSP clubs to make away fans sit down and therefore charge them an extra couple of quid to get in. Stevenage, Cambridge and Rushden do it, FGR will do it from next season and Oxford also do it by virtue of having an all-seater stadium. I'm sure others will follow and I think it's about time we considered doing the same. I realise that the development of the ground in this way would cost a lot of money and it can't be done overnight. However, when Forest Green bring 15-20 diehards to their game at Moss Lane next season could we not look at putting them all in the seated area in front of the sponsors lounge or something and charging them full whack? I'm sure that for one game alternative arrangements could be made for the people who normally sit there?
We need to think seriously about doing this.
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Don’t like the idea at all, the chequers end is a quality terrace for away fans, if we are copying other clubs by raising the admission price for away fans then so be it, doesnt mean we have to spend money on seats.
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Don’t like the idea at all, the chequers end is a quality terrace for away fans, if we are copying other clubs by raising the admission price for away fans then so be it, doesnt mean we have to spend money on seats.
Unfortunately, they can only charge increased prices for away fans on the premise that they are charging the standard price for seating. If standing room is available they must be charged the same price as home fans.
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We always moan when other clubs do it to us.
IMO we should forego the extra cash and keep our integrity by treating away fans fairly offering them a choice of sitting or standing.
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Completely agree. I hate the fact other clubs would force seating upon us (except in all seater stadiums, where it's to be expected) and I'd hate to do it to any other club.
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I have a feeling that more and more teams will follow FGRs example, so Ideas 4 Alty does have a point.
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It's all very well being kind and accommodating but nobody else seems to be showing us the same level of courtesy. More will follow and we should do the same - we're not running a charity here.
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How much would a stand cost with a roof?
How much would the installation of the seats cost?
How many away supporters do we get on average per game?
How many years will it take us a £2 per away fan to claw our money back?
How money do we have in the bank?
A none starter for me - sorry, nice idea but lets perhaps build some nice toilets for the home supporters first ;D
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In my mind the 20/20 end gives the best viewing in the ground and should be available to home fans. Far too much space is given over to away fans for the majority of games. Maybe a leaf should be taken out of Accrington's book and stick them in one corner. How this could be worked out I have no idea.
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lets put a roof on it and have a no mans land in the middle, top atmosphere!
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We always moan when other clubs do it to us.
IMO we should forego the extra cash and keep our integrity by treating away fans fairly offering them a choice of sitting or standing.
I agree 100% with this post
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It's all very well being kind and accommodating but nobody else seems to be showing us the same level of courtesy. More will follow and we should do the same - we're not running a charity here.
The majority of clubs still offer a choice for the away fan, if we are able to do the same we should.
Just because a few clubs rip away fans off that doesn't mean we have to follow.
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Comments made above about the 20/20 end should be the home end - I totally agree with this IF it had a roof on it and we didnt have to walk ALL the way around the ground to the bar.
Maybe we could build a subway from the 20/20 end into the bar?
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Don't change your away end, it's a good traditional terrace which has a good atmosphere when there are a decent number of away fans.
What you need to do is what we need to do, and that is upgrade some of the facilities - our toilets are terrible and need sorting out and we need to drop the prices of our catering, you need to sort out your pie facilities so you don't have to spend 20 minutes queuing. At least you can still see the game I suppose. Another complaint is your crush barriers, when the away end is busy it can sometimes be hard to find your way down to the front to get out!!!
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I think anything other than a terrace at Chequers would be a white elephant. Phil is right. It just needs better facilities by it. We need better toilets and catering across the whole ground in general (which i know is happening)
As for making away fans sit at our place when we have a large terrace, it would be more trouble than its worth.
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I think ideas4alty has a point.....who wants to be nice to FGR?
I'm not sure wether you can treat away fans from different clubs differently though so we'd best ask Colin if it's in the rules.
Sitting down away fans will reduce the atmosphere from them as well.
I would suggest a open temporary stand to go at the side of the 20/20 end and covering the terrace.
When tinpot small time clubs who fleece our 200 away fans come stick them in the temp stand or in the family stand at £2 extra with us getting the 20/20 terrace.
Proper clubs can have the whole 20/20 end..terrace and stand for usual price.
Get the council to pay for it.
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Just to correct the original poster, we charge standing prices for sitting you in the South Stand.
As it happens, the Altrincham home game could become one of the South Stand Initiative games - and if so you'll be put in the Habbin South terracing. For those who have visited the Abbey before, its the terracing to the left as you sit in the SS.
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Problem with the Cambridge stand, although it's nice and smart etc, is that it's miles away from the pitch so you feel like you are watching people watching football.
By the way Chris, did you get my e-mail?
;D
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I did Phil, thanks. I'll be in touch next week with a set of tricky questions for you! :P
The reason it's so far away is because we were going to move the pitch towards that stand when we redeveloped the NRE terrace to a similar seated effort. Obviously with our financial probs it was shelved for about 15 years.
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I did Phil, thanks. I'll be in touch next week with a set of tricky questions for you! :P
The reason it's so far away is because we were going to move the pitch towards that stand when we redeveloped the NRE terrace to a similar seated effort. Obviously with our financial probs it was shelved for about 15 years.
Oh right, I didn't know that. Still, it is a smart stand and I have no complaints apart from the bizarre policy of stopping people sitting on the back row - why did they build it if you can't sit in the seats?
I've only been to one friendly so far and know next to nothing about our new players so my answers to your questions will be a load of crap - even more than usual! ::)
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Haha not sure why they won't let you sit on the back row - probably stewards wanting their authority fix.
Do you know the guy in charge of the Red n Blue message board by any chance? I posted a question about logging in as its causing all manner of problems. He's a real touchy one if you dare criticise his board, no matter how politely!
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Haha not sure why they won't let you sit on the back row - probably stewards wanting their authority fix.
Do you know the guy in charge of the Red n Blue message board by any chance? I posted a question about logging in as its causing all manner of problems. He's a real touchy one if you dare criticise his board, no matter how politely!
The forum has two "owners" - one is in Australia and hasn't been heard from for quite some time, the other one also keeps a low profile for whatever reason. The moderators are thus in charge and if I was to make a list of them I couldn't. There seems to be loads of them when you look at the user list but only a couple who do anything.
I would help you if I could but there's nothing I can do. Sorry.
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No worries. I just wanted to have a nosey as to what your fans were thinking about the first game.
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No worries. I just wanted to have a nosey as to what your fans were thinking about the first game.
Absolutely nothing about it yet.
More stuff about the friendlies, fixture changes, Setanta, new players etc.