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Title: Tonights match thread
Post by: Toff Apple on October 23, 2012, 07:32:43 PM
alty team:-
Coburn, densmore, leather, lacey, havern, hall, richman, moult, lawrie, reeves, clee subs:- doughty, watmore, brooke, mitchley, greygoose
Title: Re: Tonights match thread
Post by: whopper on October 23, 2012, 08:16:50 PM
How can watmore not start?
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Post by: Mallorca Alty on October 23, 2012, 08:17:38 PM
According to Bet365 Workington are the better side they have had 5 shots on target so far
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Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 23, 2012, 08:18:54 PM
How can watmore not start?

He's injured, we are losing 0-1
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Post by: ManagementGuru on October 23, 2012, 08:21:45 PM
How typically Alty!
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Post by: whopper on October 23, 2012, 08:24:14 PM
How can watmore not start?

He's injured, we are losing 0-1
is he named as a sub?
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Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 23, 2012, 08:27:02 PM
Yes, but he's carrying a knock, as is doughty
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Post by: Timperley The Best on October 23, 2012, 08:35:40 PM
Rogers also injured ?
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Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 23, 2012, 08:36:01 PM
0-2 penalty on the stroke of half time
Title: Re: Tonights match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 23, 2012, 08:36:39 PM
Rogers also injured ?

Yes mate, rogers Watmore and doughty all injured
Title: Re: Tonights match thread
Post by: markecky on October 23, 2012, 09:48:48 PM
Workington were excellent and we never got going at all.

Their 11 was the best player I have seen this season

Killer time to concede the penalty. huffed and puffed second half but never looked that threatening  

No complaints. Best team won but we didn't play at all. Disappointing.

On to Solihull and a better showing needed
Title: Re: Tonights match thread
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on October 23, 2012, 09:50:36 PM
Workington were excellent and we never got going at all.

Their 11 was the beat player I have seen this season

Killer time to concede the penalty. huffed and puffed second half but never looked that threatening   

No complaints. Best team won but we didn't play. Disappointing.

On to Solihull and a better showing needed

That's exactly how it sounded on RR. Disappointing, but not a disaster.
Title: Re: Tonights match thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on October 23, 2012, 09:54:30 PM
Workington were excellent and we never got going at all.

Their 11 was the beat player I have seen this season

Killer time to concede the penalty. huffed and puffed second half but never looked that threatening   

No complaints. Best team won but we didn't play. Disappointing.

On to Solihull and a better showing needed

Indeed, their number 11 sounded world's best on the radio.

Such a shame that after so many good away days our first home game in ages was a bit of a no show.

Still we go again on the weekend and I'm sure we'll get an immediate response.
Title: Re: Tonights match thread
Post by: York Alty on October 23, 2012, 09:55:58 PM
only caught the first half on Radio Robins.  They ran the first 25 odd minutes but losing the second goal bang on half time hurt.

Milk has been spilt.  Crying - little point.

Trying to see the positive side, we should bounce back good and strong after tonight.  Looking forward to Saturday.

C'mon Alty.
Title: Re: Tonights match thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on October 23, 2012, 09:59:10 PM
always  a chance we would  lose as we had make changes , maybe good to get it out of the system , second half was ok poor first half , onwards and upwards !
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Post by: Jenga on October 23, 2012, 10:01:09 PM
Simply not good enough tonight.
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Post by: ArmchairAlty on October 23, 2012, 10:13:26 PM
Lacklustre affair from us tonight, they were well up for it and their 11 was brilliant.

Few chances to level it second half but just one of those nights. Better side won.

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Post by: ASMO on October 23, 2012, 10:28:13 PM
Think all our travels caught up with us tonight , Joe Mwasile there no 11 on loan from Morecambe outstanding . 
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Post by: whopper on October 23, 2012, 10:36:42 PM
Got our pants pulled down by the morcambe missile  :(
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Post by: Leon on October 23, 2012, 10:40:11 PM
Anyone know which game Danny Hall will miss with his suspension? Congleton Town would be ideal...
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Post by: markecky on October 23, 2012, 10:42:17 PM
Anyone know which game Danny Hall will miss with his suspension? Congleton Town would be ideal...

I think its 13 days but I also think that Congleton ridiculously doesn't count,
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Post by: mikealty on October 23, 2012, 10:48:41 PM
At least we didn't lose to Yate Town tonight.
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Post by: Timperley The Best on October 23, 2012, 10:51:10 PM
Anyone know which game Danny Hall will miss with his suspension? Congleton Town would be ideal...

Just hope its not burton that he misses .
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Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 23, 2012, 11:10:15 PM
The way I read it hall would be suspended for Guiseley or burton
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Post by: Nasha on October 23, 2012, 11:15:39 PM
Think he'd be out for the FA Trophy tie on 10th.
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Post by: JDN on October 23, 2012, 11:16:44 PM
How can watmore not start?

He's injured, we are losing 0-1
You sure about that? He didn't look very injured to me

We only made a game of it when he came on, but alas we were 2 down and the game was lost
Title: Re: Tonights match thread
Post by: wayno on October 23, 2012, 11:19:21 PM
Poor tonight wonder save by coburn kept us in it but we were poor outside the box
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Post by: robininstockport on October 23, 2012, 11:27:26 PM
Cant complain about the result. Too many attacking players out of sorts.

Credit to Workington the pressed and gave us no time bar 15 mins in 2nd haf.

I think we missed Rogers most of all.
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Post by: Jimmy on October 23, 2012, 11:36:42 PM
Workington better side fair enough But I thought Watmore looked fit if he wasn't I stand corrected
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Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on October 23, 2012, 11:55:23 PM
As the game kicked off I, as is normal, headed down toward Golf Road to read the turnstiles (I have a catch up with some friends on the way and then hanh around there until they close)

As I progressed on my merry way I heard "BLEEDING USELESS ALTRINCHAM!!"

I checked my watch,  we had been playing for 48 seconds and hadn't actually touched the ball I don't think.

Well I found it amusing anyhow!!
Title: Re: Tonights match thread
Post by: Hash on October 24, 2012, 12:08:12 AM
if it wasnt for englands number one we would have got hammered , all there decent football was twarted by him even though they deserve a couple of goals for there efforts , its quite ironic that there goals came from individual mistakes leathers shocking clearence and densmore being out of position leaving hav/hall couldnt tell which to do a shocking last ditch tackle resulting in the penalty
Title: Re: Tonights match thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 24, 2012, 12:18:59 AM
Anyone know which game Danny Hall will miss with his suspension? Congleton Town would be ideal...

I think its 13 days but I also think that Congleton ridiculously doesn't count,


I think that there may just be a crumb of good news here, as I was informed during the post-match analysis by none other an authority than Brian Flynn that Danny Hall's one match suspension will comprise the Congleton Town fixture in the Cheshire Senior Cup.

As for last evening's fixture, Workington thoroughly deserved their victory and I'm afraid that our substandard performance simply underlined how threadbare our 'squad' is.

And what on earth is going on with the Moss Lane PA system?

I thought that it had been repaired and 'upgraded'?!



 
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Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 24, 2012, 12:23:38 AM
I dont doubt brians info on halls suspension.But in previous years, suspensions could not be spent in cheshire cup fixtures, or was that justy when we were a conference side?
Title: Re: Tonights match thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 24, 2012, 12:25:11 AM

Workington were excellent and we never got going at all.

Their 11 was the best player I have seen this season



He played against us for Morecambe back in July:

http://www.altrinchamfc.co.uk/120717me.htm (http://www.altrinchamfc.co.uk/120717me.htm)

Couldn't Lacey have warned us about him...?!
 

Title: Re: Tonights match thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 24, 2012, 12:29:41 AM

I dont doubt brians info on halls suspension.But in previous years, suspensions could not be spent in cheshire cup fixtures, or was that justy when we were a conference side?



As I understand it, Brian raised this very issue with Derek Wilshaw and this is where he has gleaned the information regarding Hall's impending suspension.

Looks like different rules apply depending on whether you are in the BSB Premier or the BSB North.

Farcical....but there you have it!
Title: Re: Tonights match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 24, 2012, 12:41:20 AM
Thank Godness for that
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Post by: taxi Phil on October 24, 2012, 12:42:02 AM
They were a very decent side.....so how on earth did Oxford City shove five past them only ten days ago ?
Title: Re: Tonights match thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on October 24, 2012, 08:04:58 AM
They were a very decent side.....so how on earth did Oxford City shove five past them only ten days ago ?

They were but if we hadn't had injuries or if we were as up for it as they were we wouldn't have. Lost



Title: Re: Tonights match thread
Post by: markecky on October 24, 2012, 08:13:42 AM
We made a lot of individual mistakes last night which we haven't done in previous games.

Whilst Rodgers may give the ball sometimes when he plays I think we really missed him marauding last night and breaking stuff up.  Richman tried to do a similar job (I thought he was one of two or three who were just OK last night) but he isn't as effective at it.

All in all a disappointing evening.
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Post by: fuertes on October 24, 2012, 10:14:32 AM
"Six scouts watching Damian Reeves last night including Leicester.

Poster on one of our forums is based in Carlisle. He was listening to BBC Radio Cumbria's coverage of last nights match, it was mentioned there.

It's no great surprise. We had eyes on Vardy before his time at Fleetwood."


From a Leicester fan.

And he scored. Again. Eek.
Title: Re: Tonights match thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on October 24, 2012, 10:18:28 AM
Did score quiet apart from that
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Post by: markecky on October 24, 2012, 10:20:29 AM
"Six scouts watching Damian Reeves last night including Leicester.

Poster on one of our forums is based in Carlisle. He was listening to BBC Radio Cumbria's coverage of last nights match, it was mentioned there.

It's no great surprise. We had eyes on Vardy before his time at Fleetwood."


From a Leicester fan.

And he scored. Again. Eek.


I'd expect every club in the country to watch him, they wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't.

Big difference between that and taking a gamble on him.
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Post by: RocketDan on October 24, 2012, 10:52:51 AM
Reeves was very quiet last night, some decent runs off the ball but for the majority of the game he was either let down by the service or out muscled as out paced by Workingtons centre backs?

The goal was pretty much a tap in from a deflected shot, quick reactions but one of
The easiest goals he will ever score
Title: Re: Tonights match thread
Post by: RocketDan on October 24, 2012, 11:01:44 AM
Whilst Rodgers may give the ball sometimes when he plays I think we really missed him marauding last night and breaking stuff up.  Richman tried to do a similar job (I thought he was one of two or three who were just OK last night) but he isn't as effective at it.

Good point about Rogers. He's not a brilliant passer of the ball but his work rate is excellent and he certainly breaks up play and gives us a bit of strength in midfield. Unfortunately Lacey looked a little out of his depth in the ball winning midfielder role last night, which meant not only were we struggling to get a touch of the ball first half but that Jake Moult was having to drop deeper to cover the midfield, which in turn made him result to pumping the ball a lot more than he normally does.

I don't know how much of a knock Duncan was carrying but he looked fine when he came on. Thought Sinnott would have started Richman in centre mid and Duncan wide right.
Title: Re: Tonights match thread
Post by: bumble on October 24, 2012, 11:17:42 AM
Very poor night last night... very lack luster performance. When I saw the team I knew we were going to be in for a tough game.

Although, the important thing is how we deal with this. It was unlikley we were going to go to carry on this run for the rest of the season.

The lads have done extremely well over the last 8 weeks

 Lets start the next unbeaten streak on saturday.
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Post by: taxi Phil on October 24, 2012, 11:28:05 AM
Very poor night last night... very lack luster performance. When I saw the team I knew we were going to be in for a tough game.

Although, the important thing is how we deal with this. It was unlikley we were going to go to carry on this run for the rest of the season.

The lads have done extremely well over the last 8 weeks

 Lets start the next unbeaten streak on saturday.
Precisely. We can't expect to get a result every time, and the best sides occasionally struggle. Bounce back at Solihull, and away we go. Glass still three quarters full !
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Post by: chesteralty on October 24, 2012, 11:58:43 AM
It's amazing how a few injuries can affect the team so much, as soon as I saw who was on the pitch I guessed we would be in for a rough ride. Whether Buzz would have coped with that winger any better is open to debate though, he was an incredible player for this level.
Very similar performance to the one at Vauxhall's a few weeks ago, plenty of effort, but no cutting edge ( until DW came on!).
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Post by: Mick on October 24, 2012, 12:42:20 PM
It only took a few minutes to see how 'up for it' Workington were. They never gave us a second on the ball and weren't afraid to shoot. We played some good football at times but seemed to want to walk the ball in again. Some individual mistakes cost us in the end - but that's football.
Thought the whole evening was a bit flat to be honest and the attendance surprised me a bit (on the low side). But onwards and upwards to Solihull and Burton (and our away tie at Bramall Lane)
Special mention to the ref.......lost a game at home, but did not notice him.

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Post by: roytonmike on October 24, 2012, 07:13:42 PM
It only took a few minutes to see how 'up for it' Workington were. They never gave us a second on the ball and weren't afraid to shoot. We played some good football at times but seemed to want to walk the ball in again. Some individual mistakes cost us in the end - but that's football.
Thought the whole evening was a bit flat to be honest and the attendance surprised me a bit (on the low side). But onwards and upwards to Solihull and Burton (and our away tie at Bramall Lane)
Special mention to the ref.......lost a game at home, but did not notice him.
Agree with the comments on Workington, who fully deserved to win, & the ref, who was sound. As for our own performance - 'pass the ball' is fine in the opposition half, but carries a lot of risk in our own. We aren't Arsenal, nor can we ever be - the players are by definition not technically able enough. We need to get the ball into enemy territory as quickly and safely as possible and take it from there, and to be prepared to risk a shot or two from 20-25 yards. I fancy we will always find it easier to play away than at home.
As to the attendance - with United at home and on the box walk-ups were always going to be at a premium.
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Post by: Jimmy on October 24, 2012, 07:20:52 PM
Yes mike with 2 very good wingers you maybe right about us winning more away counter attacks bit like terry and sharrat era
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Post by: JDN on October 24, 2012, 08:29:30 PM
Think the team has got a little ahead of itself

They were not up for Workington because they thought they only needed to turn up to win

We are not that good, hence why we got well beat

Also think the last couple of games we have over elaborated a bit, just play the easy ball, how many dummies did we try to do last night and end up losing the ball?

Still unsure why Watmore didn't start? He was our best player but only played the last 30 minutes
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Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on October 24, 2012, 08:39:52 PM
I think that it is always a safer bet to, if possible, rest a player with a knock for one game than to play him from the start and risk him aggravating the knock and missing five or six hence perhaps Duncan not starting but seeming okay when he came on
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Post by: temp alty on October 24, 2012, 08:50:18 PM
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We are not that good, hence why we got well beat

First defeat since the Chester game.  Scored 21 goals and gained 14 points out of a possible 21 in the process.  We have risen from 19th in the table to 7th, just outside the playoff's.  We have made a bucket load from the Cup this season, now isnt the time to be negative.

Lets get behind the lads heh
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Post by: markecky on October 24, 2012, 09:37:55 PM
In my opinion we made some silly errors last night and were punished by a fast well organised Workington side.  

They played some great stuff and looked sharp and well up for it.  They never let us get into our stride.  I think they a good night and we had a poor one.

On their forum they feel that was coming after how well they did against Mansfield. With that number 11 added in they were a good side.  No doubt I'll be told they are sh*t or something but I think they will beat a few if they can keep that going.

We need three points from Saturday now to keep up there.
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Post by: whopper on October 24, 2012, 10:11:39 PM
Hmm so do people think we would of got something from the game if we had a full strength team or not?
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Post by: Jimmy on October 24, 2012, 10:17:29 PM
We've had a very good run so I don't want to over criticise but apart from the number 11 who was a class act they were an avarage team they certainly won't finish in the top half
Title: Re: Tonights match thread
Post by: Jimmy on October 24, 2012, 10:30:53 PM
Hmm so do people think we would of got something from the game if we had a full strength team or not?

Yes
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Post by: taxi Phil on October 24, 2012, 11:24:21 PM
We've had a very good run so I don't want to over criticise but apart from the number 11 who was a class act they were an avarage team they certainly won't finish in the top half
If they capitalise on that winger for the three months of his loan, they could well manage a top half finish. They were a good unit last night and I don't thimk it was a one-off.
Title: Re: Tonights match thread
Post by: Jimmy on October 25, 2012, 07:25:57 PM
Phil I will have a friendly bet with you just a pint that Workington don't finish top half
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Post by: taxi Phil on October 25, 2012, 11:43:30 PM
Phil I will have a friendly bet with you just a pint that Workington don't finish top half
Go on then Jimmy, I'm game for a laugh !