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Title: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: robininstockport on November 19, 2008, 05:26:25 PM
FACTS :

There were 2,397  in the ground before the lights went out. The other 1,000 came in after (but we're not declaring them)

Someone was stood stood on my spot in the Golf Road End and I had to watch the game 3 yards from where I'm used to.

The performance didn't lack passion and the players didn't bottle it. We just need a creative mid-fielder who can put the quality ball through.

We're shocking at dead ball situations from throwins to corners.

In the 3.5 hours of open play  I've never seen so few shots on or off target.

Luton's  right back (the No 2) was the best player in both games. He won't be playing non-league next year.

Chris Vessay is a liar, he said we would win on pens. He should be run out of town on Saturday.

QUESTIONS

What was wrong with Little?

Why on earth did Senior get subbed?

Why did Danylyk or Elam not take a pen?

 
Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: Nonleaguer on November 19, 2008, 06:52:29 PM
I believe that Danylyk was the 5th penalty taker but was not required as the result was already over at that stage. i.e. 4-2 to Luton with the 5th Alty penalty not required.

Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: Alex on November 19, 2008, 08:24:26 PM
i think he ment during the original 90 minuets (ie instead of payton)
Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: robininstockport on November 19, 2008, 08:45:38 PM
i think he ment during the original 90 minuets (ie instead of payton)

Both
Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: Alex on November 19, 2008, 08:52:19 PM
in the shoot out it's who ever volunteers (i assume Elam didn't as he had his jumper back on at the end of play - not a knock at him as i know it takes bottle to step up and take a pen)
Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on November 19, 2008, 09:15:36 PM
I believe (and please don't quote me on this) that Warren Peyton was the only player who volunteered to take the Penalty in normal time
Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: Bear Town Robin on November 19, 2008, 09:58:05 PM
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I believe (and please don't quote me on this ;)) that Warren Peyton was the only player who volunteered to take the Penalty in normal time

if this was the case (and to be fair I don't remember anyone attempting to take the ball off Warren);

Could it be that this is what GH is referring to when he says "lacked passion"? He would probably expect there to have been a number of players stepping forward (not just Warren) to take the penalty.
Just a thought. Instead of slagging Warren off (as seen in another post) he should be recognised for this and his efforts last night.

Anyway, proud of the all the lads and hope they can take the positives into Saturdays game where I look forward to another big crowd.  ::)
Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: Ballers on November 19, 2008, 10:33:53 PM
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I believe (and please don't quote me on this ;)) that Warren Peyton was the only player who volunteered to take the Penalty in normal time

if this was the case (and to be fair I don't remember anyone attempting to take the ball off Warren);


It looked, and obviously I don't know but it looked, like there was a slight delay in the penalty as Robbie Lawton tried to argue with Peyton to get the ball off him (I believe Lawton was pen taker at Vauxhall). I remember bemoaning at the time that such an interruption was only going to affect Peyton badly.

Again, I was surprised that he missed given his dead ball record.

Don't worry Warren, it's not like anybody will hold this against you for as long as you live or owt like that......
Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: Hale Alty on November 19, 2008, 10:43:16 PM
as for the takers at the end, i felt that the altrincham players were definitely up for it judging by the body language. at the end of both days, and and after a game of five halves it was ended in the fairest way possible, even if not in the way we might have liked.
Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: Ballers on November 19, 2008, 10:47:46 PM
I don't think I could have managed another replay!

I worked out that(after being stood up teaching all day) I was stood outside the Brickies with the lads from 5pm, apart from 10 minutes b4 the game in the bar and 10 mins at half time I was actually stood/walking for near on 6 hours continuously to go with the previous 6 of the day. My legs were wrecked this morning.  :P
Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on November 19, 2008, 11:46:47 PM

It looked, and obviously I don't know but it looked, like there was a slight delay in the penalty as Robbie Lawton tried to argue with Peyton to get the ball off him (I believe Lawton was pen taker at Vauxhall). I remember bemoaning at the time that such an interruption was only going to affect Peyton badly.

Again, I was surprised that he missed given his dead ball record.

Don't worry Warren, it's not like anybody will hold this against you for as long as you live or owt like that......

Ballers,

Why were you surprised?

Peyton had spent the previous 67 minutes giving the ball away to Luton players, so wasn't it merely inevitable that he would remain consistent and simply pass the ball to the Luton keeper from the penalty spot?

Yes, I know that he can run all day but his distribution is just woeful.

Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: RocketDan on November 19, 2008, 11:50:28 PM
Again, I was surprised that he missed given his dead ball record.

i was suprised Heathcote hasn't got a routine set piece planned for the penalty.
maybe a cheeky switch of the ball flicking it up and to the far post for a great diving header by robbie lawton.

or

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gi98iEziKQ (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gi98iEziKQ)
Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: Ballers on November 20, 2008, 01:11:43 AM

It looked, and obviously I don't know but it looked, like there was a slight delay in the penalty as Robbie Lawton tried to argue with Peyton to get the ball off him (I believe Lawton was pen taker at Vauxhall). I remember bemoaning at the time that such an interruption was only going to affect Peyton badly.

Again, I was surprised that he missed given his dead ball record.

Don't worry Warren, it's not like anybody will hold this against you for as long as you live or owt like that......
Ballers,

Why were you surprised?

Peyton had spent the previous 67 minutes giving the ball away to Luton players, so wasn't it merely inevitable that he would remain consistent and simply pass the ball to the Luton keeper from the penalty spot?

Yes, I know that he can run all day but his distribution is just woeful.

His distribution was at the same level it always is, this doesn't detract from his dead ball shhoting (not crossing).

However, as nail hitting seems to be tonihgt/this mornings Cult speciality I must admit that the thought that flashed through my head as he grabbe d the ball was of Frank Lampard in the 2006 WC quarter final. He'd had an awful game but wanted to take the vital penalty (Great pen taker by the way) to show he had bottle. Well in fairness, I don't think it's a cosmetic thing as he and Warren both have a great deal of heart.

And we all know what happened.....

Although interestingly having been 1st choice penaltytaker in the 68th minute Warren had dropped to at least 6th by the 120th minute.
Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: andrewflynn on November 20, 2008, 08:35:47 PM
Luton's  right back (the No 2) was the best player in both games. He won't be playing non-league next year.

Completely agree, he was ace. Do you know his name?
Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: Altyant on November 20, 2008, 09:44:34 PM
Luton's  right back (the No 2) was the best player in both games. He won't be playing non-league next year.

Completely agree, he was ace. Do you know his name?

Claude Gnapka???
Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: Brian Flynn on November 20, 2008, 10:02:06 PM
Luton's  right back (the No 2) was the best player in both games. He won't be playing non-league next year.

Completely agree, he was ace. Do you know his name?

Claude Gnapka???

He was in Peterborough's team that won promotion last year but his agent started touting him around & Darren Ferguson called his bluff.

I doubt he will be gracing us with his presence in the BSP next season!
Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: Mick on November 20, 2008, 10:50:31 PM
Gnapka........great pace.........could run box to box with the ball at his feet in 10 seconds, beating people as he went !
Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on November 20, 2008, 11:06:44 PM
It was some run up for the penalty though wasn't it?

I thought he was taking a conversion
Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on November 21, 2008, 12:01:07 AM
It was some run up for the penalty though wasn't it?

I thought he was taking a conversion


I was reminded of Michael Holding circa 1976...
Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: Ballers on November 21, 2008, 12:28:02 AM
Michael Holding what?
Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: brian1925 on November 21, 2008, 08:18:13 AM
I agree, Gnapka had pace, but his end product was awful and that more than anything explains why Peterboro released him. Luton's best player in both games by a country mile was Keane (their captain I think). He's some tough guy, sitting in front of the back two and preventing us from getting any shots in. It would be interesting to find out what Luton fans think of these players.
Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: Ballers on November 21, 2008, 03:39:54 PM
I thought Nicholls the no 8 was there best player.

We gained the upper hand significantly in both games when he was substituted.
Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: gazwarrington on November 21, 2008, 04:32:50 PM
Kevin Nicholls is their fav player as he asked to come back from leeds to rejoin them when Luton were in trouble and also Keane is a quality player, stood out a country mile when I saw them v Accrington.
Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: andrewflynn on November 21, 2008, 04:45:08 PM
Claude Gnakpa, thats the one.
Cheers.
Title: Re: The Facts and some Questions
Post by: Altyant on November 21, 2008, 07:32:01 PM
It was some run up for the penalty though wasn't it?

I thought he was taking a conversion


Pity that he didnt hit it like a conversion!!