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Altrincham FC First Team / Ex Alty player now oldest living England footballer
« on: March 21, 2024, 12:37:50 AM »
Tommy Banks (94) now oldest living England International.....believed to have played for Alty in early 60s
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And Dorking just stuck 4 past Chesterfield…..yikes!Chesterfield have a poor record on plastic pitches......which should not be allowed at any level above school football in the Uk
Last season Byrne was ahead of Gould in the goalkeeping pecking order. Despite his problems in some games, there will have been a reason for that in the eyes of the management duoThis is all a bit too far, for me he is better than Gould just on the basis he's similar skill level, but larger human.Ollie,
is better than matt
You’ve got to be joking here right?
Ollie Byrne isn’t quite Andy Dawber bad but he’s not far off. I’d play an outfield player in goal if Ross and Gould were both injured
I'd still not play him when his bottom lip might trip him up at any moment.
There is a sporting covenant on it, so I think it renders the land nearly useless for resale.Big disadvantage we have is we do not own the land. Some clubs did and it financed their new home.I may be wrong on this but my understanding is that, although we don't own the freehold, we do own the lease on the land. Is this not similar to owning a leasehold house or flat? i.e. You pay an annual ground rent to the freeholder (TMBC) but you can still freely sell the leasehold property for only slightly less than it would fetch as a freehold.
With dwellings I think you are correct.....leasehold properties change hands for market value and the new owner continues to pay the freeholder.
I would say with a football ground things are different. For example who wants to buy a lease along with a football ground to then continue to use it as a football ground...the number of potential buyers has to be severely limited.
The lease is not worthless though, because let us say TMBC wanted to sell the land to a property developer (yet more apartments and community tax to waste), then they would need to negotiate the purchase of the lease. I think this is what happened when the Chequers car park was sold for housing.
Sporting covenents these days seem to be no longer a cast in stone guarantee that the land can only be used for sport and more an inconvenient obstacle that the landowner can eventually overcome. I know of an athletics ground with a covenant that was sold for housing (despite local protest groups) and 'some' of the profits were used to help fund the building of a nearby leisure centre.
The number might be a little large, but if you notice my suggestion is for a ground share as being part of why Trafford might get on board. While Sale is currently only getting 7k averages they will want to be able to hold more for big games and tbh if you moved them out of a Rugby League town we'd possibly see an increase in in their crowds.Some good points. I guess there are many factors to consider in this new ground / refurb debate. Big disadvantage we have is we do not own the land. Some clubs did and it financed their new home.
Also, the move from National League to League 1 is short when the team is set up right. Wrexham and/or Notts will go up at the first attempt. Chesterfield will do the same next year, what's to say we won't as well if we go up? If the stars aligned we could be knocking on the championship before we even get past the plans stage.
End of the day though it's time to decide how serious the board is about actually being a league club. Moss Lane is a dinosaur of a ground with nowhere good to sit and watch the game, and very few decent places to stand either. We might be griping about the pitch but half the mainstand miss play in a quarter of the pitch (more if they sit close to the "windows", the standing home fans don't know from week to week where will be available to stand to them. Not to mention away fans and how much money we throw away because we can't host them for ale sales. We could test the water with planning permission for the away end, see it rejected then move on to more hospitable locations... or we can still be here in 10 years wondering why the pop side is only open to halfway because Trafford has found more decrepit bits, and we'll still be wondering why the f**k water comes from beneath us on a moss land.
Stadium that holds 15k is way more than likely needed......Morecambe, Accrington, Salford, Harrogate and Barrow all struggle to reach 3k in L2. In L1, Fleetwood, Port Vale and Burton struggle to get 4k.......Do enough improvements to keep ML safe and legal, improve facilities and worry about a new stadium if we looking like advancing to the Championship.Who said the Council fund it? They just need to show some willing to make it happen. They have been the core issue with every attempt that has been made by Sale to both stay (Heywood Road development) and to come back (Fletcher Moss Proposal being the most recent)We need a bigger solution than just fixing the pitch.Do not disagree if a genuine cost / benefit analysis proves to be positive....otherwise, why should Community Tax payers support private sports clubs ?
Trafford Council should have been bending over backwards to bring Sale home, now is the time more than ever with a future football league club in the borough.
The new hybrid turfs that are at old Trafford, Wembley etc. can easily handle the rigours of rugby and football.
Time to get serious about a new home. It's already not going to happen overnight.
The idea behind it being a dual-team venue is how it can be funded... There are Billionaire owners at both teams at this point.
We build a 15,000 seat stadium with two on-site training facilities a la Carrington and Edgerton for both teams. They are available for the community each evening and for schools on schedule in the day.
We've no chance of staying at Moss Lane, we had issues getting locals on board for improved floodlights that reduced the light leak onto their houses. Does anyone honestly think they will stand for major stand builds on their doorstep?
To the out-of-town argument, York moved out of town and gained 1500 new fans...
We need a bigger solution than just fixing the pitch.Do not disagree if a genuine cost / benefit analysis proves to be positive....otherwise, why should Community Tax payers support private sports clubs ?
Trafford Council should have been bending over backwards to bring Sale home, now is the time more than ever with a future football league club in the borough.
The new hybrid turfs that are at old Trafford, Wembley etc. can easily handle the rigours of rugby and football.
Time to get serious about a new home. It's already not going to happen overnight.
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Rumours circulating on Twitter, alledgedly state hes been involved in fighting again (a 3rd incident of his career).My Spireite correspondent tipped me off about a possible incident on 27 Jan in the outskirts of Chesterfield. This followed things posted on an independent fans forum. However it remains speculation at the moment. I hope the rumours are untrue.
One rumour suggests its internal. But his injury means unless its a police matter he'll be shipped out on loan for fitness or quietly released as part of their promotion overhaul - if its not addressed.
I believe we are in contact with Bodge it and Scarper about them sorting it focBodgit and Scarper built my house.....under the guises of Taylor Wimpey.....let me know if we find them
Drainage is no good, the water table is too high, only solution would be to raise pitch level which may not be faesibleIf the residual water table is too high to effect suitable pitch drainage, then why would the drainage consultant, drainage designer not know this and proceed with installation of new drainage system deemed to fail ?
Thanks.How do you know this Hashtag.....what is your source ?.....Accounts are not public....or speculation based on wage billHow bad is the debt? Likely to be recouped with promotoin?
Despite big cup runs its multi millions.
Chesterfield's accounts are in the public domain, they are legally known as CFC 2001 Ltd and on Companies House. A quick look at the most recent accounts for 2021/2 showed they lost about £2.4m but a share issue and probable writing off of debts has made them solvent. Will be interesting to see where they are up to as of last summer when the accounts are published.