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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: oneedham on October 30, 2022, 08:15:48 AM
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Would be good to see the below front 4 start and get at them from the off.
Assuming Toby and Baines not fit.
Too early for Marriott to start but hopefully give him 20 mins.
Byrne
Barrows Cooper J.Jones E.Jones
Lundstram Osborne
Kaja Con-Clarke Colclough
Hulme
Confident of a win if we play high tempo and have our FB overlapping.
Subs : Marriott, Baines, Dinanga, Pringle, Jackson
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Wealdstone have fallen away dramatically after winning 4 of their first 5 games, and threatening to be playoff contenders. They've only picked up 6 points from the last 33, and since winning at Aldershot at the beginning of the month they've had a run of 5 straight League defeats (scored 5 conceded 17) in addition to losing 5-3 at Boreham Wood in the FA Cup.
They're there for the taking, provided we don't sit back and let them play - they do carry a goal threat, but their defence would seem to be suspect.
I'd start Kaja if he's 100% fit, otherwise Jackson. Dinanga should be left on the bench,. but ought to play at least half an hour to try and boost his confidence. He may be pants, but he's all we've got until Goodson comes back - he got a full game under his belt for Boston United yesterday, so may be an asset on his return.
Of the teams above us, Wealdstone are here, Maidenhead are Wrexham's next fish in a barrel, Dorking visit an improving Halifax, and Aldershot are at Torquay (and the only ones I fancy to get anything). With luck and a decent performance we could be 13th on Tuesday night
COYR !!!!
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That would be my starting 11.
Alty 2-0 Wealdstone (hulme Colclough)
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That would be my starting 11.
Alty 2-0 Wealdstone (hulme Colclough)
Agreed. We are at home & playing well there, get all our best ball players on the pitch & give it a right go. I think 2-0 Alty is about right too, gate of ooh 1250ish.
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So very Alty - Goodson broke his wrist at the end of Boston's game yesterday, so that's him out for a few weeks.
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Agreed it would be good to see Egli Kaja now given an hour to continue his own development, especially if Isaac Marriott makes the bench.
If all is going to plan at that stage, CCC can move to the right, Osborne into 10 (or replaced himself by Ben Pringle) and Marriott into the midfield.
Brad Jackson can then replace CCC on the right for a bit.
This management stuff is easy.
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Big game tonight as they all are. Will be interesting to see how Mr Parky fields the initial attacking line up. Will Marcus be rested, or will Jordan come on as well? Maybe Kaja will get a start? Maybe too soon for Isaac, maybe a cameo later in the game... Decisions decisions. Looking forward to it.
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Big game tonight as they all are. Will be interesting to see how Mr Parky fields the initial attacking line up. Will Marcus be rested, or will Jordan come on as well? Maybe Kaja will get a start? Maybe too soon for Isaac, maybe a cameo later in the game... Decisions decisions. Looking forward to it.
Parky always says players will be in on merit.
Dinanga has been poor last 3 games, Jordan has been playing well, so should start nunber 9.
Kaja in all appearances has done very well, been strong and a threat. He looks sharp, deserves a start and minutes.
Possibly Marriott last 15/20 or maybe too soon....
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I am wary of playing Marriott in a very intense game too early, all our National League games are like that. I would rather they gave him more game time in the reserves than risk further injury. That said if his name was anywhere on the teamsheet, I would be very happy, great player who we have missed.
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I am wary of playing Marriott in a very intense game too early, all our National League games are like that. I would rather they gave him more game time in the reserves than risk further injury. That said if his name was anywhere on the teamsheet, I would be very happy, great player who we have missed.
True Steve. I trust both the player and backroom staff will make a sound call on this.
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Halifax game this evening PP due to water logged pitch,thank god we invested in a new pitch and drainage system.prediction for tonight
Alty 3 Wealdstone 1
Attendance 1250.
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Silly me, i went on the offical site to see the team news for tonights game,and guess what its still showing for Sandbach see kadja and hulme are both in dinanga is on the bench the team is as Oneedham has put up and the subs its as he predicted except malone istead of marriott
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Silly me, i went on the offical site to see the team news for tonights game,and guess what its still showing for Sandbach see kadja and hulme are both in dinanga is on the bench the team is as Oneedham has put up and the subs its as he predicted except malone istead of marriott
Ditto!
This is somewhat disappointing!
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As expected, this game is a bit of a struggle and the ref sounds somewhat dodgy…..😜
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Why could we not play the whole game like we did the last 15-20 mins?
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If PP told the team at half time that they couldn't possibly be poorer in the second half than they were in the first, then that's another thing he got wrong.
OK, the officials were utterly incompetent, but if we'd had even two of our penalty shouts awarded we'd probably have missed them both.
Can't be arsed going again, even with my season ticket.
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Colclough might as well hand in a transfer request and pack it in here. I’m not sure what else he could have done tonight, he was our only threat.
Massive overreaction this time last week to beating a wank Oldham side. We’re poor.
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Extremely limited tonight. I was praying we’d start to try something other than swinging it from one touch line to the other but bar 10 minutes at the end it seemed that was all we had to offer and Unfortunately there was absolutely no end product at all. Colclough his usual self and Pringle looked a step above when he came on but I can’t think of any other positives from this evening. We miss Marriott and Kosylo a great and deal and obviously the striker issue continues to plague us.
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That was an extremely elaborate parody, I'm sure of it. Every adjective you would use critically about this team applied tonight, but the one that came to mind in the opening 30 minutes of the second half was spineless. I thought Wealdstone were limited, polite and there for the taking in the first ten minutes. But once they'd got a foothold in the game, we made sloppy errors, held onto the ball too long, had a total lack of anything in the centre of the pitch, and relied totally on Colclough. Osborne tonight was absolutely dire and was deservedly hooked.
18 points from 17. From the equivalent fixtures last season we had 26 points and a better goal difference.
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That was poor.
Firstly the officials who somehow didn’t give us one penalty tonight. The most obvious of the three when Colclough turned his man & was clearly tripped on the byline early in the first half, I have no idea how the linesman who had a great view didn’t give it, clear as day. The second incident when Conn-Clarke got goal side of their defender, the ref looks like he’s about to blow but seemingly freezes and waves play on. Maybe less clear but it looked it from behind the goal & it should be a red card. Parky looked livid with the ref and made a point of waiting for him until he walked off the pitch at HT. Yes we’ve still got to score it but he gives us the pen early doors & it’s potentially a completely different game.
The officials shouldn’t overshadow though what was a really laboured and low quality display from us. We were frequently overran in midfield, Kaja given a start and I’m afraid was poor & Hulme couldn’t make it stick, even CCC long range radar was off tonight. Wealdstone once they scored gave a master class in time wasting & general sh*thousery & whilst we piled the pressure on for the last 15-20 you couldn’t really begrudge them. What is worrying is that a part time side who had a long journey up today & who have been conceding for fun, held us off relatively comfortably. We need Marriot, Mullarkey, Baines & I’d be tempted to start Pringle if he’s fit enough.
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That was terrible. I'm not going next week. A waste of money!
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Poor performance! If we are taking this league seriously we need to get rid of dinanga and Osborne! Both no way near the standard required at this level. We need a proper centre forward in before we get dragged into a proper relegation battle! Barrows needs to also do more and offer more going forward! We created very little down his side until the inteoduction of Pringle!
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A few good interplays and forward play by Colclough, a 1 yard sitter missed by Dinanga and a couple blazed over the bar from one or two others. Apart from the ref having an absolute stinker, there really isn’t too much to say. Thought E.Jones, Cooper and Osbourne gave the ball away far too much and just couldn’t move things quick enough. Don’t think PP was happy and substitutions spoke wonders. Don’t think Kaja is up to speed yet, but it will do us and him good to get the minutes under his belt. Wonder if we will see Marriot back soon and maybe our other defenders?
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I got my head bitten off last week for criticising Dinanga.
I said to Bill on the the way out.. If Dinangas the answer then we’re going down.. His reply was… He’d only been on 15 minutes.
His mates reply was . The cross came to Marcus too soon as he hadn’t been on long. Ffs
Ok the Ref was utter sh*te but..
Our back four only pass sideways or backwards.
When they receive the ball all they do is get rid, they never bring the ball out. That’s either because they haven’t got the confidence or that’s the instructions they have been given..
Barrows needs to get down the line more..
Jordon ploughs a lone track up top.
Josh works his socks off but he needs help .
Ryan is on a different level to his team mates apart from CCC. No wonder he gets frustrated.
We need some hard bastards in this team who can tackle. All the pretty tap ball isn’t working.
We are going to struggle, Barnet up next. I don’t want any more miserable nights out in Alty.
We need to spend that mysterious 300k that has been quoted on players starting with someone with a bit of nous and a fkn striker who can score.
I’m not interested in hearing how many goals Dinanga has scored in the last number of games. He ain’t good enough.
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PP said tonight after the game that Ryan carried us tonight.
He carries us most games Phil, he needs help not pats on the back.
There isn’t an Alty fan in the ground that doesn’t know/appreciate how good Ryan Colclough is week in week out.
We’re hearing every week that we “should” have scored.. we don’t because we need a striker.
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Shocking inept performance last night, the same players making the same mistakes.
Colclough was by far our standout and most dangerous player.
The rest were inept as was the management performance.
I am not sure what we are trying to do when we are passing the ball side to side and backwards?
Wealdstone were clearly the better side and worked their socks off.
It was difficult to see those penalty shouts, and other than wishing the outcome we will decide whether the right or wrong decisions were made from the tv highlights.
Nevertheless we were very poor last night and changes need making.
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Looking at some hopeful positives, maybe it will force the management to dip into the market for one or two more.
I firmly believe we aren't a million miles off, we all know what sort of difference one or two new faces makes.
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Looking at some hopeful positives, maybe it will force the management to dip into the market for one or two more.
I firmly believe we aren't a million miles off, we all know what sort of difference one or two new faces makes.
3 weeks ago, after Gateshead, Phil said there'd be repercussions for players. The same 13 have continued to play.
8 weeks ago the board gave Phil 'support'.
I dont think last night will change much. We'll probably sign a winger or striker like we did last season, but in reality, Marrioty back and Ferguson in woild be a better use of budget.
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For me, it's the fact that the criticism of Dinanga is disproportionate. Why do you not mention Jordan Hulme's 75 minutes on the pitch without a shot on goal, on or off target?
You could put a league 1 striker in the number 9 position in this system and they wouldn't be scoring.
I got my head bitten off last week for criticising Dinanga.
I said to Bill on the the way out.. If Dinangas the answer then we’re going down.. His reply was… He’d only been on 15 minutes.
His mates reply was . The cross came to Marcus too soon as he hadn’t been on long. Ffs
Ok the Ref was utter sh*te but..
Our back four only pass sideways or backwards.
When they receive the ball all they do is get rid, they never bring the ball out. That’s either because they haven’t got the confidence or that’s the instructions they have been given..
Barrows needs to get down the line more..
Jordon ploughs a lone track up top.
Josh works his socks off but he needs help .
Ryan is on a different level to his team mates apart from CCC. No wonder he gets frustrated.
We need some hard bastards in this team who can tackle. All the pretty tap ball isn’t working.
We are going to struggle, Barnet up next. I don’t want any more miserable nights out in Alty.
We need to spend that mysterious 300k that has been quoted on players starting with someone with a bit of nous and a fkn striker who can score.
I’m not interested in hearing how many goals Dinanga has scored in the last number of games. He ain’t good enough.
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Looking at some hopeful positives, maybe it will force the management to dip into the market for one or two more.
I firmly believe we aren't a million miles off, we all know what sort of difference one or two new faces makes.
3 weeks ago, after Gateshead, Phil said there'd be repercussions for players. The same 13 have continued to play.
8 weeks ago the board gave Phil 'support'.
I dont think last night will change much. We'll probably sign a winger or striker like we did last season, but in reality, Marrioty back and Ferguson in woild be a better use of budget.
Isaac will be a welcome return when fit again. Ferguson not getting much game time is surely worth making a phone call & asking the question.
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For me, it's the fact that the criticism of Dinanga is disproportionate. Why do you not mention Jordan Hulme's 75 minutes on the pitch without a shot on goal, on or off target?
You could put a league 1 striker in the number 9 position in this system and they wouldn't be scoring.
I got my head bitten off last week for criticising Dinanga.
I said to Bill on the the way out.. If Dinangas the answer then we’re going down.. His reply was… He’d only been on 15 minutes.
His mates reply was . The cross came to Marcus too soon as he hadn’t been on long. Ffs
Ok the Ref was utter sh*te but..
Our back four only pass sideways or backwards.
When they receive the ball all they do is get rid, they never bring the ball out. That’s either because they haven’t got the confidence or that’s the instructions they have been given..
Barrows needs to get down the line more..
Jordon ploughs a lone track up top.
Josh works his socks off but he needs help .
Ryan is on a different level to his team mates apart from CCC. No wonder he gets frustrated.
We need some hard bastards in this team who can tackle. All the pretty tap ball isn’t working.
We are going to struggle, Barnet up next. I don’t want any more miserable nights out in Alty.
We need to spend that mysterious 300k that has been quoted on players starting with someone with a bit of nous and a fkn striker who can score.
I’m not interested in hearing how many goals Dinanga has scored in the last number of games. He ain’t good enough.
Jordon at least gets stuck in and I’m sure he would have scored the tap in that Marcus fluffed. Marcus has the knack of running about but doesn’t actually contribute much, his awareness of what’s around him is poor and he cannot keep hold of the ball due to his lack of strength.
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For me, it's the fact that the criticism of Dinanga is disproportionate. Why do you not mention Jordan Hulme's 75 minutes on the pitch without a shot on goal, on or off target?
You could put a league 1 striker in the number 9 position in this system and they wouldn't be scoring.
Couldn't agree more.
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So frustrating that game was, poor match officials, below par from all the players but Ryan stood out as the best. Prings did OK when came on. Even with the below par performance we had enough chances to at least get a draw. Finishing is woeful, mentality is so questionable at the beginning of the 2nd half week in week out. Where are the changes we were promised, players need to improve or be replaced.
Our season tickets cost a lot of money like others have paid, we want to be entertained as previous seasons. That was not entertaining last night.
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They wanted it more than us and looked solid.The sh*te officials assited with their game plan.
Not sure if any of our back 4 are good enough. Barrows is not improving into the full back I thought he would become and E.Jones is decent enough but rushes his play and lacks pace. We'll concede goals with Jones and Cooper at CB, may get away with one alongside Toby but I am hoping we see Baines and Toby there in a month or two.
Osborne was yet again a passenger and rightly subbed, no-where near good enough. Can't be rushed, but we are desperate for Marriott in CM.
Colclough was unbelievable but he can't do it alone. We never have enough players in the box.Often resulting in us taking long range shots.
Our concentration after HT is abysmal. Poor game, we need some signings.
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Colclough might as well hand in a transfer request and pack it in here. I’m not sure what else he could have done tonight, he was our only threat.
Massive overreaction this time last week to beating a wank Oldham side. We’re poor.
Agreed. Would be devastated to loose him but he is levels above us.
We really need to sign two fullbacks, wide player, No.9 and have Marriott, Toby and Baines back. We don't ever look like scoring, fanny about passing side to side, with only one player in the box.
Our fullbacks have stopped overlapping which means are wide players can't come into the box as extra attacking threats. We have gone away from how we use to play.
Crying out for a Joel Senior player at FB. Both sides.
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Perplexed by our lack of bite upfront and how we inevitably concede within minutes of the re-start.
Still feel we did not deserve to lose; could have at least got something if we could convert the few genuine chances we create and would have won if the referee and officials had not been utterly incompetent. I need to see the TV replays, but could have been two reds (push on Conn-Clarke and Cook wading in on Jones), both right in front of linesmen and two penalties (Kaja and Colclough).
Why Barrows does not overlap is a mystery also.
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For me, it's the fact that the criticism of Dinanga is disproportionate. Why do you not mention Jordan Hulme's 75 minutes on the pitch without a shot on goal, on or off target?
You could put a league 1 striker in the number 9 position in this system and they wouldn't be scoring.
Couldn't agree more.
It's telling really that no side in the bottom 10 has scored less than us but yet we can all agree that we don't have enough of a goal threat. 8 of the 23 goals have come against Torquay and Dorking. Take those games out of the equation and we're averaging a goal a game. Last night and the Torquay capitulation had the look of a side in serious trouble.
Say what you like about Dinanga's prolificacy but within 5 minutes of being on the pitch, he was, at the very least, in the right positions in the box.
Not a knock on Hulme, love the guy and am delighted he is at the club as one of the old guard who understands the journey the club has been on, but it was a stretch to expect him to be the answer up front this season. Safe option for a club in transition, as you know what you're getting. I must say he was excellent out on the wing at Gateshead and Torquay last week, which leads me to consider that the striker might not be the problem.
Look back at all iterations of Parkinson's Altrincham and there has never been a reliance on the striker to be prolific. We've seriously regressed at full-back which has always been an integral part of how we play. Barrows is miles off Senior's level and the Brockbank gamble hasn't paid off, prompting us to go back in for Eddie Jones who has been steady enough, but does not look the player he did last season when playing against teams who were winding down at the end of the campaign.
Our two central midfielders offer very limited goal threat and creativity. I'm going to hazard a guess that Lundstram and Osborne's 2 goals in 17 league games is well below average for central midfield partnerships. I am not sure what they have provided in terms of assists but it is all very sidewards and backwards from them. I appreciate this is not Lundstram's role and I think he has been excellent all season. We need more from Osborne, or whoever is in that position. I'm not sure Marriott is going to be the player to fix this, either. How we could do with Alistair Smith.
That leaves Conn-Clarke, Colclough and whoever is on the right to make it all happen - which is easy to defend against. Conn-Clarke is quite mercurial and has a tendency to overplay, particularly from outside of the box, where Hancock was a serious threat coming into the box late, which is what we are so obviously missing. The amount of times Colclough puts a low ball into the six-yard box to find no one running onto it is a joke. He was being triple-teamed all game, and he still managed to run past them all and put it on a plate numerous times. I'm amazed he's still here.
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For me, it's the fact that the criticism of Dinanga is disproportionate. Why do you not mention Jordan Hulme's 75 minutes on the pitch without a shot on goal, on or off target?
You could put a league 1 striker in the number 9 position in this system and they wouldn't be scoring.
Couldn't agree more.
It's telling really that no side in the bottom 10 has scored less than us but yet we can all agree that we don't have enough of a goal threat. 8 of the 23 goals have come against Torquay and Dorking. Take those games out of the equation and we're averaging a goal a game. Last night and the Torquay capitulation had the look of a side in serious trouble.
Say what you like about Dinanga's prolificacy but within 5 minutes of being on the pitch, he was, at the very least, in the right positions in the box.
Not a knock on Hulme, love the guy and am delighted he is at the club as one of the old guard who understands the journey the club has been on, but it was a stretch to expect him to be the answer up front this season. Safe option for a club in transition, as you know what you're getting. I must say he was excellent out on the wing at Gateshead and Torquay last week, which leads me to consider that the striker might not be the problem.
Look back at all iterations of Parkinson's Altrincham and there has never been a reliance on the striker to be prolific. We've seriously regressed at full-back which has always been an integral part of how we play. Barrows is miles off Senior's level and the Brockbank gamble hasn't paid off, prompting us to go back in for Eddie Jones who has been steady enough, but does not look the player he did last season when playing against teams who were winding down at the end of the campaign.
Our two central midfielders offer very limited goal threat and creativity. I'm going to hazard a guess that Lundstram and Osborne's 2 goals in 17 league games is well below average for central midfield partnerships. I am not sure what they have provided in terms of assists but it is all very sidewards and backwards from them. I appreciate this is not Lundstram's role and I think he has been excellent all season. We need more from Osborne, or whoever is in that position. I'm not sure Marriott is going to be the player to fix this, either. How we could do with Alistair Smith.
That leaves Conn-Clarke, Colclough and whoever is on the right to make it all happen - which is easy to defend against. Conn-Clarke is quite mercurial and has a tendency to overplay, particularly from outside of the box, where Hancock was a serious threat coming into the box late, which is what we are so obviously missing. The amount of times Colclough puts a low ball into the six-yard box to find no one running onto it is a joke. He was being triple-teamed all game, and he still managed to run past them all and put it on a plate numerous times. I'm amazed he's still here.
Andrew, great post, well thought out and have to agree. Just hope the club can find the suitable players to move us forward with what we've got.
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For me, it's the fact that the criticism of Dinanga is disproportionate. Why do you not mention Jordan Hulme's 75 minutes on the pitch without a shot on goal, on or off target?
You could put a league 1 striker in the number 9 position in this system and they wouldn't be scoring.
Couldn't agree more.
It's telling really that no side in the bottom 10 has scored less than us but yet we can all agree that we don't have enough of a goal threat. 8 of the 23 goals have come against Torquay and Dorking. Take those games out of the equation and we're averaging a goal a game. Last night and the Torquay capitulation had the look of a side in serious trouble.
Say what you like about Dinanga's prolificacy but within 5 minutes of being on the pitch, he was, at the very least, in the right positions in the box.
Not a knock on Hulme, love the guy and am delighted he is at the club as one of the old guard who understands the journey the club has been on, but it was a stretch to expect him to be the answer up front this season. Safe option for a club in transition, as you know what you're getting. I must say he was excellent out on the wing at Gateshead and Torquay last week, which leads me to consider that the striker might not be the problem.
Look back at all iterations of Parkinson's Altrincham and there has never been a reliance on the striker to be prolific. We've seriously regressed at full-back which has always been an integral part of how we play. Barrows is miles off Senior's level and the Brockbank gamble hasn't paid off, prompting us to go back in for Eddie Jones who has been steady enough, but does not look the player he did last season when playing against teams who were winding down at the end of the campaign.
Our two central midfielders offer very limited goal threat and creativity. I'm going to hazard a guess that Lundstram and Osborne's 2 goals in 17 league games is well below average for central midfield partnerships. I am not sure what they have provided in terms of assists but it is all very sidewards and backwards from them. I appreciate this is not Lundstram's role and I think he has been excellent all season. We need more from Osborne, or whoever is in that position. I'm not sure Marriott is going to be the player to fix this, either. How we could do with Alistair Smith.
That leaves Conn-Clarke, Colclough and whoever is on the right to make it all happen - which is easy to defend against. Conn-Clarke is quite mercurial and has a tendency to overplay, particularly from outside of the box, where Hancock was a serious threat coming into the box late, which is what we are so obviously missing. The amount of times Colclough puts a low ball into the six-yard box to find no one running onto it is a joke. He was being triple-teamed all game, and he still managed to run past them all and put it on a plate numerous times. I'm amazed he's still here.
Top post mate.
I think our main concerns currently are CM, overrun in most games and full back.
Correct about Con-Clarke, I know he has been on the end of a ball into the box, but currently 90% of his play is on the edge of the box, looking for a through ball or long shot. We need him in the box.
An attacking CM should be doing the edge of the box. Don't rate Malone but he was in there last night, Osborne is way off the attacking play.
If we had capable and overlapping fullbacks, who can put a ball into the box, then we should have our No 9, 10 and one of the wide players in the box and CM on the edge.
At the moment it is always one player in there, missing opportunities or it is cleared and often landing in and around the box with no players for the seconds.
Barrows needs to get fitter, faster and be told to get beyond the wide man. Hampson on the left was never the quickest, like E Jones, but experienced at making the right runs and did well at putting balls in.
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For me, it's the fact that the criticism of Dinanga is disproportionate. Why do you not mention Jordan Hulme's 75 minutes on the pitch without a shot on goal, on or off target?
You could put a league 1 striker in the number 9 position in this system and they wouldn't be scoring.
Couldn't agree more.
I disagree; we have a bottom-half strike force; if they were better, they wouldn't be here. The % of chances our strikers take (based on movement, ability, confidence) is low.
I still think we're missing a 10, and I actually think Hulme and Dinanga as a 10 works best.
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Very frustrating night, bizarre officials and (other than Ryan) far too ineffective up front again. Will need to see the replays but 4 big penalty shouts turned down, post hit by Ryan and other chances missed again. Not surprising people were fuming after that.
I think most can see where we need improvements, we need more from the full backs and creativity from midfielders. Not getting that at present. CCC normally contributes with Ryan Colclough in the creativity side, but CCC was well below his previous levels last night. Pringle was tidy when he came on, but that might have just been relative to the other flat performances from the other forwards.
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Regarding the non-overlapping full backs, could it be they are told not to overlap?
Agree that Hulme looks better as a winger, so that might be the way to go with Dinanga as the 9.
Regarding getting players in there's only about 3 positions which we're good enough in.
All in all its a absolute sh*t show
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It may be that we need to trim the wage bill before we can bring anybody in. That's not easy when players we have on contract are almost certainly unattractive to other clubs. I mean, would YOU buy Osborne or Dinanga ? We'd have to pay them off, then bang goes our kitty. We're only 3 points outside the drop zone again, and others below us are showing at least some signs of gumption. We were beaten last night by a team whose current run of form was deplorable. It simply isn't good enough, and our tactics need looking at as a matter of priority.
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It may be that we need to trim the wage bill before we can bring anybody in. That's not easy when players we have on contract are almost certainly unattractive to other clubs. I mean, would YOU buy Osborne or Dinanga ? We'd have to pay them off, then bang goes our kitty. We're only 3 points outside the drop zone again, and others below us are showing at least some signs of gumption. We were beaten last night by a team whose current run of form was deplorable. It simply isn't good enough, and our tactics need looking at as a matter of priority.
Dinanga isnt a player I'd lose, but the lad has scored 6 and probably will hit 13/14 He scored a ton in South.
If I were a step 2 club, Id bite your hand off for him.
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We still look as though possession is our primary concern and if we score then that's a bonus.
An example being last night when one of their players picked up possession after the inevitable breakdown of one of our interminable passing sessions. He set off toward our goal, directly and at pace, no stopping to look for a sideways pass, just progress and a desire to score.
Much has been said about Osborne so I'll leave that subject.
Jordan actually gives us nothing. He looks for a CB when he comes on and is content then to engage in a 'wrestling contest'. A successful striker tries to get away from defenders, Jordan does the opposite. In terms of closing diwn, too often he seems to raise, at best, a quick jog toward defenders with seemingly no real intent to apply any pressure.
Sadly I think we need a significant change in system / philosophy / personnel definitely on the field of play, possibly in the dugout
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I agree with nearly all the insightful comments around our performance and the need for improvement. I thought though Barrows had one of his best games. We are sitting so deep it does not offer the full backs the options to get forward. Some credit to Wealdstone though. They were well organised and ran themselves into the ground
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It may be that we need to trim the wage bill before we can bring anybody in. That's not easy when players we have on contract are almost certainly unattractive to other clubs. I mean, would YOU buy Osborne or Dinanga ? We'd have to pay them off, then bang goes our kitty. We're only 3 points outside the drop zone again, and others below us are showing at least some signs of gumption. We were beaten last night by a team whose current run of form was deplorable. It simply isn't good enough, and our tactics need looking at as a matter of priority.
Dinanga isnt a player I'd lose, but the lad has scored 6 and probably will hit 13/14 He scored a ton in South.
If I were a step 2 club, Id bite your hand off for him.
No point getting rid of any forwards to free up funds unless we are going to replace them with the 'real deal' and not gamble on a young player who may come good this season or over the next three.
Maybe the suggestion of Hulme on the wing makes sense.
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Regarding the non-overlapping full backs, could it be they are told not to overlap?
Agree that Hulme looks better as a winger, so that might be the way to go with Dinanga as the 9.
Regarding getting players in there's only about 3 positions which we're good enough in.
All in all its a absolute sh*t show
Yes, I think they have been told to be more reserved, but it is restricting us and not the way Parky says we play.
Hulme did OK out wide against Torquay but then struggled to track back against Oldham,better teams will leave him for dead.
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It may be that we need to trim the wage bill before we can bring anybody in. That's not easy when players we have on contract are almost certainly unattractive to other clubs. I mean, would YOU buy Osborne or Dinanga ? We'd have to pay them off, then bang goes our kitty. We're only 3 points outside the drop zone again, and others below us are showing at least some signs of gumption. We were beaten last night by a team whose current run of form was deplorable. It simply isn't good enough, and our tactics need looking at as a matter of priority.
Dinanga isnt a player I'd lose, but the lad has scored 6 and probably will hit 13/14 He scored a ton in South.
If I were a step 2 club, Id bite your hand off for him.
I can't remember the last striker we had who was capable of having a shot at point blank range go out for a throw in.
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It may be that we need to trim the wage bill before we can bring anybody in. That's not easy when players we have on contract are almost certainly unattractive to other clubs. I mean, would YOU buy Osborne or Dinanga ? We'd have to pay them off, then bang goes our kitty. We're only 3 points outside the drop zone again, and others below us are showing at least some signs of gumption. We were beaten last night by a team whose current run of form was deplorable. It simply isn't good enough, and our tactics need looking at as a matter of priority.
Dinanga isnt a player I'd lose, but the lad has scored 6 and probably will hit 13/14 He scored a ton in South.
If I were a step 2 club, Id bite your hand off for him.
I can't remember the last striker we had who was capable of having a shot at point blank range go out for a throw in.
Tom Peers? Damian Reeves? Almost like certain people have something against Marcus.
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It may be that we need to trim the wage bill before we can bring anybody in. That's not easy when players we have on contract are almost certainly unattractive to other clubs. I mean, would YOU buy Osborne or Dinanga ? We'd have to pay them off, then bang goes our kitty. We're only 3 points outside the drop zone again, and others below us are showing at least some signs of gumption. We were beaten last night by a team whose current run of form was deplorable. It simply isn't good enough, and our tactics need looking at as a matter of priority.
Dinanga isnt a player I'd lose, but the lad has scored 6 and probably will hit 13/14 He scored a ton in South.
If I were a step 2 club, Id bite your hand off for him.
I can't remember the last striker we had who was capable of having a shot at point blank range go out for a throw in.
You don't have to cast your mind too far back to remember the likes of craig hobson and george bowerman
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While all of those strikers were certainly capable of some dreadful misses (Tom Peers at Blyth is unforgettable) I don't recall any of them actually putting a ball out specifically for a throw in from as close as Dire-nanga was last night.
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Dinanga is not the worse striker we've had since Reeves by a long way, but he's not the answer.
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If memory serves me correct we paid a fee and gave Dinanga a 2 year contract originally. Horrendous business. While there is certainly worse he is hindering us a team significantly. His first touch is atrocious and his finishing is abysmal.
Osborne also been well off the required standards. Loses too many 50/50s slow and sideways in his passing all the time.
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While all of those strikers were certainly capable of some dreadful misses (Tom Peers at Blyth is unforgettable) I don't recall any of them actually putting a ball out specifically for a throw in from as close as Dire-nanga was last night.
That's not what happened with that chance. The ball was fired at pace from Colclough across the goal. Dinanga lunged for it but only managed to get part of his foot on the ball in time before it spun out for a throw. He wasn't there in time but there were worse misses last night than that
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For me, it's the fact that the criticism of Dinanga is disproportionate. Why do you not mention Jordan Hulme's 75 minutes on the pitch without a shot on goal, on or off target?
You could put a league 1 striker in the number 9 position in this system and they wouldn't be scoring.
I got my head bitten off last week for criticising Dinanga.
I said to Bill on the the way out.. If Dinangas the answer then we’re going down.. His reply was… He’d only been on 15 minutes.
His mates reply was . The cross came to Marcus too soon as he hadn’t been on long. Ffs
Ok the Ref was utter sh*te but..
Our back four only pass sideways or backwards.
When they receive the ball all they do is get rid, they never bring the ball out. That’s either because they haven’t got the confidence or that’s the instructions they have been given..
Barrows needs to get down the line more..
Jordon ploughs a lone track up top.
Josh works his socks off but he needs help .
Ryan is on a different level to his team mates apart from CCC. No wonder he gets frustrated.
We need some hard bastards in this team who can tackle. All the pretty tap ball isn’t working.
We are going to struggle, Barnet up next. I don’t want any more miserable nights out in Alty.
We need to spend that mysterious 300k that has been quoted on players starting with someone with a bit of nous and a fkn striker who can score.
I’m not interested in hearing how many goals Dinanga has scored in the last number of games. He ain’t good enough.
Jordon at least gets stuck in and I’m sure he would have scored the tap in that Marcus fluffed. Marcus has the knack of running about but doesn’t actually contribute much, his awareness of what’s around him is poor and he cannot keep hold of the ball due to his lack of strength.
I think Dinanga is well aware of the risk of getting clattered and takes evasive action. Watching Alty TV the cross is coming across and he’s favourite to get to the ball before the keeper. He must have seen the keeper coming out and slowed enough to allow the keeper to get there first despite him starting favourite. He’s a fancy player but lacks aggression and bravery. Has a knack for being in the wrong place at the wrong time too often for it not to be by design.
Thought all four penalty shouts looked promising live at the game. On Alty TV it confirmed that a competent refereee could easily have given all four.
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While all of those strikers were certainly capable of some dreadful misses (Tom Peers at Blyth is unforgettable) I don't recall any of them actually putting a ball out specifically for a throw in from as close as Dire-nanga was last night.
That's not what happened with that chance. The ball was fired at pace from Colclough across the goal. Dinanga lunged for it but only managed to get part of his foot on the ball in time before it spun out for a throw. He wasn't there in time but there were worse misses last night than that
Yes Malones for a start
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Looking at the replays for the penalty appeals, looked like Kaja was pulled down by the falling defender who only stuck his arm out to drag Kaja down, totally baffling referee decision. The 2 on Colclough looked like trips that most refs would give as a penalty. For the first of these the ref is on the other side of the penalty area with about 15 players between himself and the action, so he would have had no chance of seeing it, lino was closer but then linesmen usually do nothing these days. The Conn Clarke one looked just outside the box but clearly a foul, possibly a red card, to give nothing again bizarre. Not sure what it would have taken for the ref to give us a pen last night, very odd and bad decisions.
Agree with Parky's interview about the scandalous missing of chances but need to improve it.
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Jordan used to be in the referees ear all the time to the point of getting booked but since he has been captain, nothing? I thought he would have had plenty to say about some of the decisions.
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Jordan used to be in the referees ear all the time to the point of getting booked but since he has been captain, nothing? I thought he would have had plenty to say about some of the decisions.
I think he does still challenge decisions but as he is the captain he does have the right to ask the question so refs allow a certain amount of debate.
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No. He used to be combustible about them but isn't anymore
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Watched the highlights and the only things the officials us was the yellow for copper. Me should have been a red.
At least one pen would have been the minimum and the Conn-Clarke was a free kick and straight red
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While all of those strikers were certainly capable of some dreadful misses (Tom Peers at Blyth is unforgettable) I don't recall any of them actually putting a ball out specifically for a throw in from as close as Dire-nanga was last night.
That's not what happened with that chance. The ball was fired at pace from Colclough across the goal. Dinanga lunged for it but only managed to get part of his foot on the ball in time before it spun out for a throw. He wasn't there in time but there were worse misses last night than that
"He wasn't there in time" - but that's a major part of his problem. How many times do we see him fail to make contact with a ball played in front of him ? The fourth goal against Dorking was possibly the only time he's dealt properly with such a chance this season.
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I did feel that a couple of times Ryan delivered the ball too quickly for anyone to get on the end of it. A bit slower it would still have beaten the defence but we might just have been able to get a boot on it.
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I did feel that a couple of times Ryan delivered the ball too quickly for anyone to get on the end of it. A bit slower it would still have beaten the defence but we might just have been able to get a boot on it.
Agreed and not just the Wealdstone game. The crosses are sometimes like cross/shots that are whacked across the 6 yard box, they are not that easy for any forward to direct or even get to
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While all of those strikers were certainly capable of some dreadful misses (Tom Peers at Blyth is unforgettable) I don't recall any of them actually putting a ball out specifically for a throw in from as close as Dire-nanga was last night.
That's not what happened with that chance. The ball was fired at pace from Colclough across the goal. Dinanga lunged for it but only managed to get part of his foot on the ball in time before it spun out for a throw. He wasn't there in time but there were worse misses last night than that
"He wasn't there in time" - but that's a major part of his problem. How many times do we see him fail to make contact with a ball played in front of him ? The fourth goal against Dorking was possibly the only time he's dealt properly with such a chance this season.
Hulme hardly scores tap ins. Peers the same.
Our lack of a proper Ten on the penalty means out 9 is never on the right spot.
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In law he doesn't
That's a fallacy
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While all of those strikers were certainly capable of some dreadful misses (Tom Peers at Blyth is unforgettable) I don't recall any of them actually putting a ball out specifically for a throw in from as close as Dire-nanga was last night.
That's not what happened with that chance. The ball was fired at pace from Colclough across the goal. Dinanga lunged for it but only managed to get part of his foot on the ball in time before it spun out for a throw. He wasn't there in time but there were worse misses last night than that
"He wasn't there in time" - but that's a major part of his problem. How many times do we see him fail to make contact with a ball played in front of him ? The fourth goal against Dorking was possibly the only time he's dealt properly with such a chance this season.
I was fortunate enough to see Bob Dylan at the Manchester Apollo last evening.
Notwithstanding the fact that Mister Dylan is now aged 81, I can confirm that he still appeared to move quicker over five yards than Dinanga.
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While all of those strikers were certainly capable of some dreadful misses (Tom Peers at Blyth is unforgettable) I don't recall any of them actually putting a ball out specifically for a throw in from as close as Dire-nanga was last night.
James Lawrie, If he had been able to slot home an easy chance he'd probably have been at a much higher level. We said it about him all the time when he was here. The difference was when he scored they were worldy shots from outside the box like at Histon.
It's still so bizarre the vendetta some people have against Dinanga. He's doomed to fail here sadly.
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While all of those strikers were certainly capable of some dreadful misses (Tom Peers at Blyth is unforgettable) I don't recall any of them actually putting a ball out specifically for a throw in from as close as Dire-nanga was last night.
That's not what happened with that chance. The ball was fired at pace from Colclough across the goal. Dinanga lunged for it but only managed to get part of his foot on the ball in time before it spun out for a throw. He wasn't there in time but there were worse misses last night than that
"He wasn't there in time" - but that's a major part of his problem. How many times do we see him fail to make contact with a ball played in front of him ? The fourth goal against Dorking was possibly the only time he's dealt properly with such a chance this season.
I was fortunate enough to see Bob Dylan at the Manchester Apollo last evening.
Notwithstanding the fact that Mister Dylan is now aged 81, I can confirm that he still appeared to move quicker over five yards than Dinanga.
Great man and oh how the times they are a changin.
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Lawrie made a habit of losing a ball in midfield and then squealing in anguish to draw everyone's attention to what he had just done.
I liked him but not at this level.
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I’m glad someone else observed that Dinanga sh*t out of it for that chance knowing he’d get clattered. On the whole I haven’t got a downer on him but that disappointed me.
Regarding all the penalty shouts and the referee, the simplest thing to say is that his fitness and positioning was very poor and he was nowhere near being able to make a proper decision on any of them.
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While all of those strikers were certainly capable of some dreadful misses (Tom Peers at Blyth is unforgettable) I don't recall any of them actually putting a ball out specifically for a throw in from as close as Dire-nanga was last night.
That's not what happened with that chance. The ball was fired at pace from Colclough across the goal. Dinanga lunged for it but only managed to get part of his foot on the ball in time before it spun out for a throw. He wasn't there in time but there were worse misses last night than that
"He wasn't there in time" - but that's a major part of his problem. How many times do we see him fail to make contact with a ball played in front of him ? The fourth goal against Dorking was possibly the only time he's dealt properly with such a chance this season.
I was fortunate enough to see Bob Dylan at the Manchester Apollo last evening.
Notwithstanding the fact that Mister Dylan is now aged 81, I can confirm that he still appeared to move quicker over five yards than Dinanga.
Great man and oh how the times they are a changin.
Our chances of avoiding a return to National North next season really are "Blowin' in the Wind". And if we really are "Going, Going Gone" I'm afraid that "Beyond Here Lies Nothin'"
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Omg , here we go again , Just knew this was gonna take off Like a Rolling Stone .
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While all of those strikers were certainly capable of some dreadful misses (Tom Peers at Blyth is unforgettable) I don't recall any of them actually putting a ball out specifically for a throw in from as close as Dire-nanga was last night.
That's not what happened with that chance. The ball was fired at pace from Colclough across the goal. Dinanga lunged for it but only managed to get part of his foot on the ball in time before it spun out for a throw. He wasn't there in time but there were worse misses last night than that
"He wasn't there in time" - but that's a major part of his problem. How many times do we see him fail to make contact with a ball played in front of him ? The fourth goal against Dorking was possibly the only time he's dealt properly with such a chance this season.
I was fortunate enough to see Bob Dylan at the Manchester Apollo last evening.
Notwithstanding the fact that Mister Dylan is now aged 81, I can confirm that he still appeared to move quicker over five yards than Dinanga.
Did you manage to ask him his availability?
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I did feel that a couple of times Ryan delivered the ball too quickly for anyone to get on the end of it. A bit slower it would still have beaten the defence but we might just have been able to get a boot on it.
Agreed and not just the Wealdstone game. The crosses are sometimes like cross/shots that are whacked across the 6 yard box, they are not that easy for any forward to direct or even get to
I was at the Chequers End for the goal. A Wealdstone fan commented "great cross". I agree. A cross that the striker can easily get on the end of. Something we need rather than a fiercely hit cross-shot like Colclough's in the first half (I think). Whack and hope.
And I hope they practice corners in their week off!
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While Tuesday wasn't a great night for home supporters, it also wasn't great for some of the Wealdstone supporters.
Somebody I know is a friend of the Wealdstone chief steward and tells me that the supporters' coach (credit for bringing a coach to a long distance midweek game, by the way) developed problems with its windscreen wipers so pulled into some services on the M6. It took hours to get somebody to come out and attend to the problem, but, eventually, someone did, and the coach finally reached Grosvenor Vale at 5.30 AM. Ouch!
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I could have a great laugh until 5:30am after an away win to be fair.