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4 and 5

22 (71%)

5 and 6

6 (19.4%)

4 and 6

3 (9.7%)

Total Members Voted: 13

Voting closed: September 12, 2007, 11:58:28 AM

[RocketDan]

Just having a debate last night, but trying to find people who can solve and arguement in tastys at 3 in the morning is pretty hard, so please can you help.


My arguement
In "post-modern football" (as I call it), number 4 is generally considered a (deep) midfielders shirt,
 my exaples of Makelele (Chelsea), Hargreaves (United), Gerrard (England), Viera/fabregas (Arsenal)


Their Arguement
Squad numbers are pointless and people are given any number available.
In sunday league football, where there are no squad numbers are shirts 1-11 are issued each week, the two central defenders where 5 and 6
Munroe wears number 4, Sedgemore wears 6


The Answer (Wikipedia)
Although there were no hard and fast rules as to which number represented which position (especially given football's varied formations), a de facto standard emerged over time and was employed by most teams, with few exceptions:

    * Goalkeepers generally wore the number 1 shirt. This convention has become almost universal.
    * Defenders generally wore numbers between 2 and 6.
    * Midfielders most commonly wore numbers 4, 6, 7, 8, 10 and 11 (11 and 7 were typically used for the left and right wings, respectively).
    * Strikers wore 9 and 10, and less commonly 7, 8 and 11.

[altyf]

4 and 5 for me!!!! Maddox and Talbot!!!!

[baldrick]

I think this is irrelevant now as players wear squad numbers. The system of wearing 1 - 11 was invented for the old 2-3-5 formation which Sir Alf Ramsey killed off. In that formation there was only one centre half, number 5

[bighairedmike]

Squad numbers mean nothing are are generally given out to whoever, i feel. Not really a lot of thought put into it that much. However Number 6 is a 'utility' shirt and can be played anywhere (except up front/in net. 4&5 are definately centre half shirts.

[Jenga]

                                          1

2                   4                                    5                        3




7                   6                                   8                       11


 

                      9                             10


That is how numbers used to be worn. I muight have 2 and 3 the wrong way round though as for 4/5 and 6/8 and 9/10 it doesnt matter if they are the wrong way round.

[Baggers]

Originally, it would have been two full backs 2 and 3, three half backs 4,5,6 and five forwards 7-11. The numbers made sense then. Now it's all messed up. Perhaps we should go back to the old 2-3-5 formation. Who'd be wearing which numbers for Alty if we did?

[Altyant]

Due to use of squad numbers, tradition tneds to go iut of the window, however my answer would be numbers 4 & 6

[gazwarrington]

4 and 6 for me as well ...

[Alty365]

4 & 5

[ManagementGuru]

Back in time:

4 Malcolm Bailey
5 John Owens
6 John King

Therefore it has to be numbers 4 and 5 for me.

But would I be correct in my recollection that Paul Cuddy occasionally wore number 6?

[Jenga]

It was ALWAYS 4 and 5 - there is no arguement over it.

[AltySi]

I'm not sure there is a definitive answer to this. I've been looking at some old teams from pre suqd number days and there is a split with some teams having 4 and 5 as CB's and some with 5 and 6 as cb's.

[Baggers]

For me, it would have to be 5 and 6 being someone who remembers Jack Charlton (5) and Bobby Moore (6). (Roughly the equivalent of Tinson and Monroe).

[RocketDan]

right, the polls don't look good in my favour, maybe this will change your mind.
A brief history of the England number 4 shirt at the world cup,

1966 - Nobby stiles
1970 - Alan Mullery
1986 - Glenn Hoddle
1990 - Neil Webb
1998  - Paul Ince
2002 - Trevor Sinclair
2006  - Steven Gerrard

You see all midfielder, number 4 is a midfielders shirt. hence 5and6 are your centre backs.

[Alty365]

4 Paul Rowlands
5 Andy Reid
6 Gary Anderson

Need I say more?