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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: HashtagAlty on August 21, 2017, 04:35:53 PM
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Failure to beat Whitby could be the end of Phil.
I wonder if him sending all his squad out to discuss the game together on the pitch straight after full time on Saturday will have worked
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Failure to beat Whitby could be the end of Phil.
I wonder if him sending all his squad out to discuss the game together on the pitch straight after full time on Saturday will have worked
Wouldn't go that far. We can't carry on this daft carousel. Ten games minimum, for me.
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Failure to beat Whitby could be the end of Phil.
I wonder if him sending all his squad out to discuss the game together on the pitch straight after full time on Saturday will have worked
Think you are being a bit premature stating it could be the end of the manager who would you replace him with? Doughty?
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Failure to beat Whitby could be the end of Phil.
I wonder if him sending all his squad out to discuss the game together on the pitch straight after full time on Saturday will have worked
Think you are being a bit premature stating it could be the end of the manager who would you replace him with? Doughty?
I'm sure there are other other options between Phil and Matt. However if we don't fail to score or slump to another defeat, how long to we give him to 'click'.
Not suggesting we sack him, I just think he would lose backing from fans and players, from which he may never recover.
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Would be an outrageous decision if we sacked him now. Bloke needs some time to give it a proper go at the very least
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Losing the game would be a complete disaster. The end of game reception could destroy players and management team. Massive rest of character so all concerned.
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Would be an outrageous decision if we sacked him now. Bloke needs some time to give it a proper go at the very least
a fantastic post
If Alex Ferguson had not been given time that story would have been very different
To let Phil go would be a disaster for this club
Who would want to manage us ?
No one
We would be exposed and quite rightly so
Hey there is a managers job up at Alty .. fancy it... No thanks they don't back you
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Well, I hold no grudge with PP. The fact is that he is an evo stik league manager with evo stik league players (largely). Therefore although his budget will be favourable in itself it won't guarantee anything other than evo stik league results frankly. But we do need something to give us confidence going forward, we cannot just believe for the sake of it or stick with him for the sake of it.
What is far more pertinent is that if we don't start winning this week we'll be 9/10 pays adrift of title rifles and that margin becomes problematic
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If we are finally going to start winning games, it's going to be now. Whitby, Coalville and Lancaster at home and Witton and Barwell away.
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A poor start at this level for us would always prompt grumbles but it's the continuity at board level that's made the situation much more difficult and the upcoming matches all the more critical. It feels as if this is all a continuation of last season's fiasco, even though the management team has changed and the playing staff is quite different. One of many reasons why it would have been in the best interests of the football club for GR to stand down at the end of last season.
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Failure to beat Whitby could be the end of Phil.
I wonder if him sending all his squad out to discuss the game together on the pitch straight after full time on Saturday will have worked
Sounds like your belittling the act of having the squad out on the pitch when I read this. If you've lost faith already then fair enough and I don't blame you after the last two years. But do just come out and say it.
For me the man needs backing right now. Show the players we have faith in him, show the board we have faith in him and show the board it's them dragging the club down. I get the impression a fair few of our squad are surprised at how tough the league is like we could have just walked the ball in three or four times a game but get fouled a bit in between. Time we saw some b*ll*cks in an Alty shirt rather than 11 hapless prima donnas who think they're the gem surrounded by poo.
Parkinson can get the job done in this league, he needs time for things to click and given the awful footballing brains above him running the club it will not be an immediate click.
Edited to add that no it isn't a must win. Two games later probably would be. We should be at least winning the odd game without deserving it if we're as close to being ok as we think.
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Needs a season unless we get in a position where he could take us down.
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Failure to beat Whitby could be the end of Phil.
I wonder if him sending all his squad out to discuss the game together on the pitch straight after full time on Saturday will have worked
Sounds like your belittling the act of having the squad out on the pitch when I read this. If you've lost faith already then fair enough and I don't blame you after the last two years. But do just come out and say it.
For me the man needs backing right now. Show the players we have faith in him, show the board we have faith in him and show the board it's them dragging the club down. I get the impression a fair few of our squad are surprised at how tough the league is like we could have just walked the ball in three or four times a game but get fouled a bit in between. Time we saw some b*ll*cks in an Alty shirt rather than 11 hapless prima donnas who think they're the gem surrounded by poo.
Parkinson can get the job done in this league, he needs time for things to click and given the awful footballing brains above him running the club it will not be an immediate click.
Edited to add that no it isn't a must win. Two games later probably would be. We should be at least winning the odd game without deserving it if we're as close to being ok as we think.
I was belittling it. seems a very odd choice to send players to discuss (and what looked like blame each other) the game.
I think if we lose tomorrow the players will lose interest in his system, and that's the worry.
Phill has to be able to get the player playing it system and it working.
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We will know more about this team in the next 7 days. 3 games which we should get a minimum of 7 points.
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Tuesday clearly is a must win
And we're miles away from where we need to be - no plan b, and too many soft arse players who aren't good enough
Bored of hearing about his achievements at Nantwich - this is Altrincham and it's far from good enough
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I just think is just another that talks the talk. But anyone could pull the wool over GR eyes. I would do anything to get GR out of the club I love and he and he cronies have ruined. Until he goes and we get a Chairman that understands football we are doomed.! I shall be there tomorrow shouting for his head again and will keep doing do until he has gone or we win the league.
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The manager needs everyone's backing. He needs time to get things together. God knows we've had an 18 months a Hollywood script writer would be hard pressed to put together. But getting rid or worst still the manager walking away this early would make us into an even bigger laughing stock than we already are. We are where we are for now and need to get used to it pdq. No one wants it, no one likes it but we need to roll our sleeves up and get on with it. Who's going to want to buy 1% never mind 51% of a f**king circus that changes manager every 3 months, we'd only end up with another ex player anyway. This is a massive ship that's been cascading towards Niagara Falls for two years. Give the new captain more than 10 days to put it back on course
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It's way too early for this sort of thread.
Season 1998-9 (Unibond Premier)
Opening sequence:
Aug 22 Frickley (h) 1-1; Aug 25 Winsford (a) 1-2; Aug 29 Whitby (h) 1-1; Aug 31 Colwyn Bay (h) 1-1; Sept 5 Blyth (a) 0-0; Sept 8 Lancaster (h) 1-2; Sept 12 Worksop (a) 1-3; Sept 15 Marine (a) 1-2.
Record after 8 league games - won 0, drawn 4, lost 4, goals scored 7, goals conceded 12.
Final league position - 1st
Some of the names on that list are familiar.
This illustrates why I for one don't tend to take much notice of league tables until the number of games played reaches double figures.
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It's way too early for this sort of thread.
Season 1998-9 (Unibond Premier)
Opening sequence:
Aug 22 Frickley (h) 1-1; Aug 25 Winsford (a) 1-2; Aug 29 Whitby (h) 1-1; Aug 31 Colwyn Bay (h) 1-1; Sept 5 Blyth (a) 0-0; Sept 8 Lancaster (h) 1-2; Sept 12 Worksop (a) 1-3; Sept 15 Marine (a) 1-2.
Record after 8 league games - won 0, drawn 4, lost 4, goals scored 7, goals conceded 12.
Final league position - 1st
Some of the names on that list are familiar.
This illustrates why I for one don't tend to take much notice of league tables until the number of games played reaches double figures.
Didn't we have a change in management team after that run of games though with Ward brought in? Bernard wasn't the sole manager that season unofficially at least.
I fully back Parky by the way. I just think two more defeats in the next two games would set off massive alarm bells. It does echo of that season so far and look closely how that one evolved.
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It was the coaching team that was changed. Kilcline and Gleghorn left and I think Graham Heathcote took over. Ward arrived in about October and we then went on a really good run. Ward was awesome in his first spell with us and really helped turn our fortunes around.
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It was the coaching team that was changed. Kilcline and Gleghorn left and I think Graham Heathcote took over. Ward arrived in about October and we then went on a really good run. Ward was awesome in his first spell with us and really helped turn our fortunes around.
Good point. I think the pair of them left after the Worksop game.
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BT sat late in to the night with a group of us in the Noel white suite asking lads their genuine thoughts on the players and formations after that lancaster defeat, different times.
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BT sat late in to the night with a group of us in the Noel white suite asking lads their genuine thoughts on the players and formations after that lancaster defeat, different times.
It was refreshing to hear Ian Wright on the radio on Sunday giving some respect to the knowledge that fans who have been watching a club for years build up. Quite rare nowadays.
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Chopping and changing managers doesnt work, lets put this one to bed for the sake of the club
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Yes. As poor as the start has been, Phil Parkinson has been brought in with the objective of getting us promoted, rather than told he has to win the first three games. So that's what he should be judged on, or at least be given enough time until that becomes unrealistic.
Another thing that needs putting to bed though is the concept of continuity for continuities sake. I'd hate us to get into a position where we kept faith with a failing manager just because we'd had a few crap managers before them. Getting out of this league is far too important for that.
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It was the coaching team that was changed. Kilcline and Gleghorn left and I think Graham Heathcote took over. Ward arrived in about October and we then went on a really good run. Ward was awesome in his first spell with us and really helped turn our fortunes around.
Good point. I think the pair of them left after the Worksop game.
It was just before the Worksop game, I can remember Graham Heathcote being involved at Worksop, his first game back.
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It was the coaching team that was changed. Kilcline and Gleghorn left and I think Graham Heathcote took over. Ward arrived in about October and we then went on a really good run. Ward was awesome in his first spell with us and really helped turn our fortunes around.
Good point. I think the pair of them left after the Worksop game.
It was just before the Worksop game, I can remember Graham Heathcote being involved at Worksop, his first game back.
Correct, and in the forementioned late night discussion we all agreed that, and told BT that he was shoehorning gleghorn and killer in to the team because he felt obliged to. One of those events that stick with you
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Tuesday clearly is a must win
And we're miles away from where we need to be - no plan b, and too many soft arse players who aren't good enough
Bored of hearing about his achievements at Nantwich - this is Altrincham and it's far from good enough
A pertinent point. Losing in the evo stik play off final and a run to run fa cup 4th qualifying rd and the fa trophy first rd could constitute a great season for Nantwich. It would actually be the worst in Altrincham's history. PP needs to get his head around that sharpish
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Tuesday clearly is a must win
And we're miles away from where we need to be - no plan b, and too many soft arse players who aren't good enough
Bored of hearing about his achievements at Nantwich - this is Altrincham and it's far from good enough
A pertinent point. Losing in the evo stik play off final and a run to run fa cup 4th qualifying rd and the fa trophy first rd could constitute a great season for Nantwich. It would actually be the worst in Altrincham's history. PP needs to get his head around that sharpish
Indeed, but that still doesn't make tonight's game a 'must win'; it's important that we do, but that's not the same as 'must win'.
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We're second bottom in the evostick - how can this not be a must win ffs
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Never lost to Whitby ::)
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Record still stands!!
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We're second bottom in the evostick - how can this not be a must win ffs
Important to get the win, but NOT 'must win'...another phrase that is losing all meaning due to being over and incorrectly used as in this case. A true 'must win' game is one where the situation can not be retrieved if it is lost, that was patently not the case with this game.