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Title: Woking Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on March 07, 2024, 09:14:26 AM
Dont think Amaluzor will be fit to start. Same applies to Ross.

         Gould

Banks.  Cooper.  Baines.  Jones

   Osbourne. Wilson.  Marriot.

   Newby.   Con-Clarke.  Mooney

A fluid front 3

Alty 3-1 Woking (Newby, Con-Clarke,  Mooney)

 
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: Wilmslow Alty on March 07, 2024, 09:52:42 AM
Thought Ross was hoping to be fit for Saturday?
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on March 07, 2024, 09:58:44 AM
Tough game, there fighting for staying up. That said were fighting for the play offs. I think line-up will be.

              Ross
Banks Cooper Baines Jones
       Marriott Osbourne
       Newby CCC Kosylo
             Dior

Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on March 07, 2024, 11:33:50 AM
Dont think Amaluzor will be fit to start. Same applies to Ross.

         Gould

Banks.  Cooper.  Baines.  Jones

   Osbourne. Wilson.  Marriot.

   Newby.   Con-Clarke.  Mooney

A fluid front 3

Alty 3-1 Woking (Newby, Con-Clarke,  Mooney)

Amaluzor was on the bench on Tues so hopefully he will be ok.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on March 07, 2024, 02:44:17 PM
                        Ross

Banks      Cooper       Baines        Jones

               Osborne     Marriott

Amaluzor            Kossy               Newby

                         CCC

Or Amaluzor up top, with CCC 10 and Kossy back out wide.

Justin needs minutes.

Kossy’s best season was as a 10. CCC is more than good enough to be a fake 9 or go for the direct pace and power of Justin up top.



Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on March 07, 2024, 02:50:45 PM
Thought Ross was hoping to be fit for Saturday?
Hope springs eternal. Don't know if that means a keeper is fit or not.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: Altyrocket on March 07, 2024, 04:27:49 PM
also agree with justin up top, with ccc and kossy out wide.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 07, 2024, 07:21:34 PM
I don't think CCC is best used up top at all.

Justin Amaluzor will create more problems.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on March 07, 2024, 08:03:22 PM
I don't think CCC is best used up top at all.

Justin Amaluzor will create more problems.

Yeah, Justin could do a job. Will put them under pressure, Angus doesn’t do that.

In that case Kossy and Newby out wide, with CCC behind Justin.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on March 07, 2024, 10:02:49 PM
Another must win for me. Can’t let all the effort & hard work from Tuesday go to waste. Agree with others that Justin if fit starts ahead of Angus & behind him it’s the same 3 as Tuesday. I feel CCC is due a big performance & one of his spectaculars. GK the other debate, Gould was excellent on Tuesday night but if fit Ross has to come back in, no question.

Attendance the now standard Saturday 2200ish I reckon, maybe 120 from Woking who do have good support. See they’ve picked up a bit in recent games but I’d back us at home against any of the relegation threatened sides.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on March 07, 2024, 10:43:24 PM
Would 100% put Justin as number 9 if fit. He's big and stroke and used to getting bashed about by big centre backs.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on March 07, 2024, 11:14:44 PM
If he turns up with his A game Justin defo. If he's not up to speed he's so frustrating. Mind you, the same goes for Angus.
If he's not challenging for the ball when we haven't got possession why is he on the pitch?
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: altyusa on March 09, 2024, 05:09:42 PM
 >:(
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: Mick on March 09, 2024, 05:21:38 PM
Dour game.....think we mustered two shots on goal. They scored from our corner.
Offered nothing upfront with that long ball....could play til midnight and not score. Missing Linney !
Hope Isaac OK and injury doesn't ruin his England debut
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: TheGolfRoadView on March 09, 2024, 05:48:18 PM
Certainly didn't look good for Isaac, at the end. Poor game, but in the end going by their 2nd half chances, if any team deserved to win it, I thought it was them. Apart from the CCC free kick and a couple of shots straight at the keeper, we created very little. Didn't feel we ever really got going and although the supply wasn't great, thought Angus offered little up front and seemed to spend alot of time on the deck looking for free kicks. Hopefully an improvement on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on March 09, 2024, 06:21:45 PM
Terrible performance.
If possible, we need a striker and CM on loan. Maxi now back at United….
Without the pace and strength of Amaluzor, we create little out wide. Newby and Kossy always want to cut back in and it kills any sort of counter. Just wish Eddie would gamble more and get down the line. He is in acres most game.
Why are we so bad at set pieces? Awful corner led to their goal. We never want to attack corners.
Playing CCC out wide and Newby no.10 did not work at all, strange decision.
Need to make changes up top, until Linney comes back. Way way off the standard up there.
Marriott looked hurt, not good.
Felt like the momentum was lost after all the changes following the Aldershot defeat.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on March 09, 2024, 06:35:22 PM
back 5 did well, middle 2 ok, front 4 awful.

Marriott injury just compounds a dreadful afternoon.

Believe there in fighting post game. get a grip
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: TheGolfRoadView on March 09, 2024, 06:53:27 PM
Do you mean issues between some of the players?
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on March 09, 2024, 07:21:56 PM


I sincerely hope that I am incorrect, but I fear that I witnessed the effective end of our season this afternoon.

That was truly torturous viewing. We looked entirely devoid of any attacking threat and were simply pressed and outworked by the poorest quality Woking team that I have seen in years.

After that opening wretched 45 minutes, I would readily have settled for 0-0 at full-time.

Angus just looks so ineffective and brittle, and he spent so much time inspecting the pitch this afternoon that I can only assume that he is thinking of applying for the currently vacant role of groundsman.

Conceding that 90th-minute goal after we had a corner was utterly criminal. Echoes of similar breakaway goals scored against us in our matches at Eastleigh, Aldershot and Dagenham respectively.

Misery duly compounded by seeing Marriott carried off on a stretcher. We can only hope that the injury wasn't as serious as it looked.

Six defeats in our last seven games really does require some sort of explanation from the management team. Our season appears to have imploded.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on March 09, 2024, 07:33:09 PM
Take no pleasure in saying this but we are simply not good enough squad wise even if we did make the playoffs. I think we have flattered to deceive a little and now our lack of depth of squad has now been exposed. Plus side we won’t get relegated negative side we wont go up this time. Hopefully the investors will stick with us. I think next season could be the one to put in a sustainable effort.

I summarise by saying let’s keep the attendances up and keep sticking by the squad.

PS hope Isaac isn’t too badly hurt, it didn’t look good though.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on March 09, 2024, 07:34:41 PM
Before Dorking I thought six  points games from the three  homes  would be ok  just about .If we beat York the mood will shift again but with injuries and a small squad I think its last chance saloon soon
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 09, 2024, 07:51:46 PM
Some of the decision making this season has been shocking:

- not taking a game in that FA Cup weekend, where we could have played Hartlepool when they were a very different prospect to the one we played - and thus relieving this heavy period of one midweek game

- not giving the Trophy a go as a result

- taking expensive punts on players that weren't necessarily hugely needed at the time we got them (Crankshaw, Mooney) that could have gone to better causes now we truly need it

- I hope to God I'm proven wrong... but hanging fire on Alex Newby for a bit longer...?

- who knows... maybe we weren't that keen on getting the Southend game played either (although I'd be amazed if that wasn't just Southend causing mischief

- but the biggest was throwing the baby out with the bathwater after the Aldershot defeat - we all accepted that was an off day against a dangerous team, but everything that's followed has been dreadful.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on March 09, 2024, 08:02:10 PM
I thought the pitch was dreadful. It looked like they were playing on marshmellow. No grip whatsoever. Woking obviously came for a draw and we had no teeth. I went home to watch the rugby after they scored so missed Isaac's injury. I hope it's not too bad.

Only bright point was Justin's appearance. He looked up for it and caused problems once he came on.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on March 09, 2024, 08:19:11 PM
Players were slipping on the pitch today. Why PP insists on watering it is beyond me.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on March 09, 2024, 08:19:57 PM
sh*te. The lot of it today. I literally turned to my mate as we watched the game and I said "0-0 is the least Alty score ever" and boom a lad stood on our D was making his way up field to score.

We mustered nothing in attack and that is weird with the options we have up there.

If isaac is out we're fully f**ked because the other two options are the same player. Maxi fancy a game? I give him a chance of playing the Isaac role more than anyone else we have options on.

I still think there is a playoffs place for us, but I've stopped expecting results if we get there.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: jhcorbett on March 09, 2024, 08:23:38 PM
Toothless and powder-puff up front, felt a bit sorry for the GK and defence to be honest, who did well.
As O Needham says above, our wide men preferred to cut in and pass sideways/backwards. Need wingers who get past the oppo defence and get to the by-line and cut it back/cross/shoot from there, not slow everything down. Seemed like Justin Amaluzor created more in his late cameo appearance than our other forwards did all afternoon.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: Stuartalty on March 10, 2024, 11:09:59 AM
Has PP reached the ceiling of his ability? He has been learning on the job for a long time. We need an ex-league manager who can not only take us up but also keep us up.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 10, 2024, 01:30:41 PM
Has PP reached the ceiling of his ability? He has been learning on the job for a long time. We need an ex-league manager who can not only take us up but also keep us up.

We don’t need statements like this.
The problem is simply that we are short of first team quality squad players. Only one decent striker (now suspended) no really quality replacements for our key players.
We know this and so does Parky..
We're probably not ready to go up yet but we will finish in an improved league position this year and with a mini-clear-the-decks and good recruitment over the close season we'll be even better next year.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on March 10, 2024, 03:01:13 PM
It worries me a little that our issue is clearly lack of numbers, the available players are running on empty and yet there appear to be no funds whatsoever for a couple of short-term replacements.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on March 10, 2024, 03:47:08 PM
It worries me a little that our issue is clearly lack of numbers, the available players are running on empty and yet there appear to be no funds whatsoever for a couple of short-term replacements.

Is the 1.5 million investment announed last year not for the squad I wonder?
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: swindellsworth on March 10, 2024, 04:17:01 PM
The recent collapse has been as depressing as unexpected given where we were just a few weeks ago.  I'm sure we were all excited as it really looked like we had a shot at promotion to the FL , which now appears to be quickly fading away. If some supporters are thinking/hoping for a knee jerk reaction from the chairman and his board think again , it just isn't going to happen and rightly so.  Look at the bigger picture , 6 seasons ago we were in freefall and we started the NPL season with a 3-0 home defeat by Stafford . Think about that and compare it to now as we are regarded by our rivals as one of the most respected and outstanding teams in the NL . That's due to the brilliant management team we are lucky to have at the helm . Of course they make mistakes , all managers do at every level and despite the awful run we will probably still finish in the top ten . That's progress in a league where most clubs have equal ambitions to ours and there are very few 'easy' games ( Fylde , Maidenhead , Dorking etc).  We may or may not reach the 'promised land' with Phil and Neil but they have already achieved enough to merit our FULL support.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on March 10, 2024, 04:58:28 PM

It worries me a little that our issue is clearly lack of numbers, the available players are running on empty and yet there appear to be no funds whatsoever for a couple of short-term replacements.



I suspect that the construction of the current squad has already required a fair degree of financial investment this season.

Remember that one of our probably highest-paid players, Crankshaw, is presently completely out of the picture.

Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on March 10, 2024, 05:00:43 PM


Rewatching the totally unprofessional manner in which we conceded that late goal has certainly not improved my mood!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3SAm9xJDkw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3SAm9xJDkw)
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on March 10, 2024, 07:22:47 PM
It was sh*t or bust. We were going for the points and the gamble didn't pay off.

In the cold late of day I think Woking shut us down with their resolute tackling. It was one of those games where we didn't get any luck and all of our shots were straight at their goalie.

Hopefully, things will turn out different on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on March 10, 2024, 07:39:53 PM

It worries me a little that our issue is clearly lack of numbers, the available players are running on empty and yet there appear to be no funds whatsoever for a couple of short-term replacements.



I suspect that the construction of the current squad has already required a fair degree of financial investment this season.

Remember that one of our probably highest-paid players, Crankshaw, is presently completely out of the picture.

This shouldn’t be overlooked. Two big name & experienced players at this level in Crankshaw & Joey Jones will be on a good whack & have barely played a minute between them. Add to James Jones also being out for long periods & then there’s Byrne-obvs he’ll be off in the summer but he was signed as our first choice GK & will be on a decent wage again. So, when people say ‘get Maxi on loan’ or whoever then there’s x4 first team squad players who will be costing a pretty penny but have contributed little on the pitch all season. So, the Board can’t just go throwing money at it when you see the bigger picture.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 10, 2024, 08:06:06 PM
I think it's pretty clear the budget's run out for this season, sadly.

Was nice while it lasted, and perhaps one of my previous posts had the huge benefit of hindsight (i.e. signing players we didn't REALLY need) - but there will be a lot of learnings from this season, and we're still heading in the right direction year on year (last year flirting around the edge of the playoffs, this year actually being in them).

As long as we edge slightly further forwards each season and re-invest in the squad wisely (especially if a good bid for a player comes in), then so be it.
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on March 11, 2024, 09:39:06 AM
Still not recovered from Saturday, Dour game, draw looked on, then we were naïve beyond comprehension,  not marking a sole attacking option is Sunday league at best. I actually think seeing the highlights that Ethan could have done better, but he was rusty.

threadbare squad now has to pick up the mantle against York, whose form is similar to ours. need to get at them
Title: Re: Woking Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on March 11, 2024, 08:32:26 PM

It was sh*t or bust. We were going for the points and the gamble didn't pay off.

In the cold late of day I think Woking shut us down with their resolute tackling. It was one of those games where we didn't get any luck and all of our shots were straight at their goalie.

Hopefully, things will turn out different on Tuesday.



It wasn't a case of that though, was it? We weren't losing that game and chasing a late equaliser.
By all means, attempt to capitalise on our attacking corner, but we should also have endeavoured to preserve the point that we were already holding.

In his post-match interview, Phil Parkinson described conceding that goal from our attacking corner as being "An absolute disgrace." That's now the third occasion in recent weeks on which we have contrived to concede a breakaway goal after losing possession on the fringe of the opposition penalty area (see Aldershot and Dagenham).