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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Alty365 on March 15, 2008, 09:14:04 PM
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yes yes yes but we all know its not going to happen because Heathcote has got the safest job in football
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As much respect as I have for GH, simple question: who is the better manager?
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We will only know if Ken is given a go, he comes to Moss lane often, he must ave an idea what is happening?
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People are saying "No" but not giving reasons. Please say why!
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I voted no because i don't believe anyone is as committed to the club as Graham. He is far more than just a manager. He got the club into the BSP and has kept us there with no money and only part timers and loan signings. Luck has played a major part in the fight against relegation in recent years and it will probably do so again this season, but the fact that Altrincham are still in the BSP is an amazing achievement and mainly thanks to Graham.
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I voted no because i don't believe anyone is as committed to the club as Graham. He is far more than just a manager. He got the club into the BSP and has kept us there with no money and only part timers and loan signings. Luck has played a major part in the fight against relegation in recent years and it will probably do so again this season, but the fact that Altrincham are still in the BSP is an amazing achievement and mainly thanks to Graham.
This attitude is going to hold the club back. There comes a time when you have to draw a line under certain things and move on. Common sense says it's time for Kenny.
You cannot repeatedly reprieve a failing manager based on luck! Tell me one other industry or business that would tolerate such failure year after year.
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i vote no at the moment because i think you have to look at how good our players our compared to other teams and how much GH can influence that,
he should be judged on decisions he's made tactically however and that is something he can be negative on, he likes to keep it tight which bores people,
if KM comes in the summer then let him re-shape the side to his liking think thats the way forward
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I voted no because i don't believe anyone is as committed to the club as Graham. He is far more than just a manager. He got the club into the BSP and has kept us there with no money and only part timers and loan signings. Luck has played a major part in the fight against relegation in recent years and it will probably do so again this season, but the fact that Altrincham are still in the BSP is an amazing achievement and mainly thanks to Graham.
This attitude is going to hold the club back. There comes a time when you have to draw a line under certain things and move on. Common sense says it's time for Kenny.
You cannot repeatedly reprieve a failing manager based on luck! Tell me one other industry or business that would tolerate such failure year after year.
I agree with Balders insofar as the club has benefited greatly from GH - he has been a great servant to the club and has done wonders on a minimal budget. Maybe that is his forte.
However, under the present circumstances, can he take the club further?
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I voted no because i don't believe anyone is as committed to the club as Graham. He is far more than just a manager. He got the club into the BSP and has kept us there with no money and only part timers and loan signings. Luck has played a major part in the fight against relegation in recent years and it will probably do so again this season, but the fact that Altrincham are still in the BSP is an amazing achievement and mainly thanks to Graham.
This attitude is going to hold the club back. There comes a time when you have to draw a line under certain things and move on. Common sense says it's time for Kenny.
You cannot repeatedly reprieve a failing manager based on luck! Tell me one other industry or business that would tolerate such failure year after year.
I agree with Balders insofar as the club has benefited greatly from GH - he has been a great servant to the club and has done wonders on a minimal budget. Maybe that is his forte.
However, under the present circumstances, can he take the club further?
Hence the question "The future of Altrincham F.C.?
To quote our current chairman, "The past does not equal the future".
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think GH mentioned holding talks with goodwin...should be interesting outcome
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I voted no because i don't believe anyone is as committed to the club as Graham. He is far more than just a manager. He got the club into the BSP and has kept us there with no money and only part timers and loan signings. Luck has played a major part in the fight against relegation in recent years and it will probably do so again this season, but the fact that Altrincham are still in the BSP is an amazing achievement and mainly thanks to Graham.
Actually, it's mainly thanks to Scarborough's financial woes; Canvey Town withdrawing from the league and Boston United's financial problems.
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I'd say no. If (and I stress if!) a new man was to come in, I'd do away with appointing either an old boy or from within. Although I doubt that will happen somehow.
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I voted no because i don't believe anyone is as committed to the club as Graham. He is far more than just a manager. He got the club into the BSP and has kept us there with no money and only part timers and loan signings. Luck has played a major part in the fight against relegation in recent years and it will probably do so again this season, but the fact that Altrincham are still in the BSP is an amazing achievement and mainly thanks to Graham.
Actually, it's mainly thanks to Scarborough's financial woes; Canvey Town withdrawing from the league and Boston United's financial problems.
I have to say that I find the way the events of 2005/6 are continually grouped with those of 2006/7 rather irritating. It's always being done on here, in programmes, media reports etc. and it isn't fair.
No-one would dispute that we got lucky last season with Boston's problems. But what happened with Canvey and Scarborough only affected us directly because of the Robinson affair. So we did get lucky in 2005/6 too but only after an enormous slice of bad luck. In other words, the luck evened itself out that season and in the end we got what we deserved based on performances on the field - staying in the Conference.
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At this difficult time i am behind Graham 100% as i feel any changes at this point of the season would probably have the reverse effect. EG unsettling players etc.
I am as all of you worried though that we are once again staring down the barrell of relegation again.
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I voted no because i don't believe anyone is as committed to the club as Graham. He is far more than just a manager. He got the club into the BSP and has kept us there with no money and only part timers and loan signings. Luck has played a major part in the fight against relegation in recent years and it will probably do so again this season, but the fact that Altrincham are still in the BSP is an amazing achievement and mainly thanks to Graham.
Actually, it's mainly thanks to Scarborough's financial woes; Canvey Town withdrawing from the league and Boston United's financial problems.
Is that Canvey Town that play on the Island???? ;D
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i said no, in fairness the questions is stupid, is the future next week or next year?
i doubt mckenna will come to a side that is going to be playing in thevBSnorth next season, but please feel free to correct me if you think he would be happy managing in the BSnorth
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I voted no because i don't believe anyone is as committed to the club as Graham. He is far more than just a manager. He got the club into the BSP and has kept us there with no money and only part timers and loan signings. Luck has played a major part in the fight against relegation in recent years and it will probably do so again this season, but the fact that Altrincham are still in the BSP is an amazing achievement and mainly thanks to Graham.
Actually, it's mainly thanks to Scarborough's financial woes; Canvey Town withdrawing from the league and Boston United's financial problems.
Is that Canvey Town that play on the Island???? ;D
That's the one, Mister Flynn!
Oh dear, I'll never get a commentary job with Radio Manchester if I continue to commit schoolboy howlers like that....
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I voted no because i don't believe anyone is as committed to the club as Graham. He is far more than just a manager. He got the club into the BSP and has kept us there with no money and only part timers and loan signings. Luck has played a major part in the fight against relegation in recent years and it will probably do so again this season, but the fact that Altrincham are still in the BSP is an amazing achievement and mainly thanks to Graham.
Actually, it's mainly thanks to Scarborough's financial woes; Canvey Town withdrawing from the league and Boston United's financial problems.
Is that Canvey Town that play on the Island???? ;D
That's the one, Mister Flynn!
Oh dear, I'll never get a commentary job with Radio Manchester if I continue to commit schoolboy howlers like that....
I'll be able to match you stride for stride!!!
Flynnmanballs
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I answered no, simply because, if I said I would sack him in the hope of hiring McKenna, I would only be doing so based on his poor tactics...and I can see him changing them...everything else he has done for the club is miraculous and I can only hope that he sees sense to now have a go at teams and get that group of players fighting in these last 8 games...whether it is too late now is a different matter.
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I answered no, simply because, if I said I would sack him in the hope of hiring McKenna, I would only be doing so based on his poor tactics...and I can see him changing them...everything else he has done for the club is miraculous and I can only hope that he sees sense to now have a go at teams and get that group of players fighting in these last 8 games...whether it is too late now is a different matter.
Agreed we cannot lose GH in the hope.....that would be stupid in the extreme.
Also agree that what GH has done for the club is extraordinary, but can he take the Robins any further?
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Voting has now ended and the result speaks for itself.
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What 54 out of 1000 fans?
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What 54 out of 1000 fans?
No, 40 out of 54 fans. That's a reasonable cross section of opinion.
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What 54 out of 1000 fans?
important point:
54 out of how many users of the forum over the weekend
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1000 is an irrelevant figure anyway because if you're referring to our hardcore support the number would be much smaller.
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Tit.
What do you hope to prove with this anyway, very helpful and supportive!
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Tit.
Very mature of you that. If you don't have a sensible argument just say nothing.
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What? A stupid fan splitting so called vote when all should be clubbing together not causing factions? If you think so then yeh but some of us are possibly a bit longer in the tooth than you.
So you think Mc Kenna is even interested do you?
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I have no doubt that he would come here if asked. I believe he once said as much. I wouldn't worry yourself too much because it's not going to happen.
So, as a fellow southern based fan are you looking forward to our team not playing any games down here next season? Are you relishing the prospect of regional football in front of 500 or less every week? There comes a time when action is required to stop the rot whether you like it or not. I witnessed one of the worst Alty performances ever at Grays on Saturday and it was the last straw in my eyes.
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i think the only think you have proved is people come on this forum to moan. it is not "constructive criticism" its moaning.
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Grays on Saturday was a total debacle I agree. A management change and or internal civil war however is the last thing we need with 8 games to go and another relegation battle to deal with. Its pull together time. If changes were to happen this season it would've needed to be around Xmas or soon after. We are where we are, what we must do is try to keep everything together.
We could always give Keegan a call?
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i think the only think you have proved is people come on this forum to moan. it is not "constructive criticism" its moaning.
I totally disagree with you.
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Grays on Saturday was a total debacle I agree. A management change and or internal civil war however is the last thing we need with 8 games to go and another relegation battle to deal with. Its pull together time. If changes were to happen this season it would've needed to be around Xmas or soon after. We are where we are, what we must do is try to keep everything together.
We could always give Keegan a call?
Ok, that's a fair point. However, if we do ultimately go down should we then persist with a failed regime next season or do we look for someone with new ideas and a fresh approach? Two consecutive "relegations" is more than most managers would survive.
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Good! Lets then agree to only disagree a little bit then! :-*
I knew those management courses would one day serve a purpose!
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Good! Lets then agree to only disagree a little bit then! :-*
I knew those management courses would one day serve a purpose!
Nothing wrong with a bit of intelligent debate, that's what this forum is here for. Are you going to Aldershot on Saturday? If so hopefully see you there!
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Yeh, I'll be there. You are Southern based too? Do I know you?
I'll more likely be with my son on Saturday as my usual travelling companions can't make it.