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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: robininstockport on December 16, 2021, 10:46:46 AM
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Hoping NC aren't too bothered bythe Trophy. Assume Mooney isn't fit to start
Thompson
Senior Mularkey Hannigan Hampson
Moult Porter
Kosyko Pringle Colclough
Hancock
NC 2-2 Alty (Pringle,Colclough).
Win 3-1 on pens.
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Think that team virtually picks itself (Porter being the exception).
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Hoping NC aren't too bothered bythe Trophy. Assume Mooney isn't fit to start
Thompson
Senior Mularkey Hannigan Hampson
Moult Porter
Kosyko Pringle Colclough
Hancock
NC 2-2 Alty (Pringle,Colclough).
Win 3-1 on pens.
If Mooney isn't fit then this team
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Bit puzzled by the team. No Hancock in the starting 11, Mooney not even on the bench. Moult, Furman, Porter and Pringle all starting.
Hope I'm wrong but it seems like we're inviting them on to us with only Kosylo and Colclough to hit them on the break.
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(i) Hoping NC aren't too bothered by the Trophy.
(ii) Assume Mooney isn't fit to start
(i) The postponement of their scheduled Tuesday evening league fixture at Chesterfield has evidently resulted in them fielding a much stronger team than might have otherwise been the case;
(ii) Inevitable.
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Who the hell is playing up front?
Hope this proves to be a masterstroke.
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No9s aren't scoring, so get the goals from who is scoring! :D :D :D
Unless injured, shows a lack of faith in Dinanga and A-J L-S
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We're really not doing too badly here. Still in this.
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Colclough so close! :o
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We could have had three or four by now. Getting agonisingly close.
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What's the score - and how many Alty there?
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What's the score - and how many Alty there?
1-2 loss and about 120 iirc
Decent performance.
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Good performance but for me all hope was gone once Dinanga entered the fray.
I’m convinced if we had someone up top who could hold up the ball we would be much more potent up front.
I still reckon that no 9 from Nantwich Dan Cockerline could do a decent job for us
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The fact neither Dinanga, Peers or LS were in the starting 11 should tell us all that the penny is beginning to drop with PP.
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162 away fans announced in a crowd of 1200ish. Very good from us in the circumstances.
Yet another heroic, narrow defeat against a top side. We are becoming masters at them, deserved to take it to pens but not to be. Notts C away was a pretty harsh draw to be starting with to be fair. I thought Senior, Colclough & Pringle our star men. Watching it on a big screen (excellent stream) you really notice when he came on that Dinanga just doesn’t suit our style of play or game. I would get rid now. Oh well just the league between now and May then.
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So... focus on the league? Onwards...
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Another frustrating loss, deserved more, but were lacking a decent no9 and poor finishing to boot.
Credit to those that travelled.
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There is a stat showing us as having 19 efforts at goal that we're off target.
I think that says it all really
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The MOM for me simply had to be Tony Thompson. Made four really decent crucial saves.
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Unlucky to lose that game as we dominated for large periods in the second half. Plenty of decent approach play but lacking a ruthless killer striker which has been the case quite a few times this season. The amount of times we worked the ball into good areas only to be heavily outnumbered by their defenders was frustrating. Don’t think we are too far away and let’s not forget we are going toe to toe with big ex league clubs here, not the dog and duck. Some of the grief Parky and the players took at the end was a shame, and some of the lads looked totally bemused when their effort was questioned. Certainly no lack of effort from where I was watching.
Joel Senior was my MOM, thought he was excellent
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Unlucky to lose that game as we dominated for large periods in the second half. Plenty of decent approach play but lacking a ruthless killer striker which has been the case quite a few times this season. The amount of times we worked the ball into good areas only to be heavily outnumbered by their defenders was frustrating. Don’t think we are too far away and let’s not forget we are going toe to toe with big ex league clubs here, not the dog and duck. Some of the grief Parky and the players took at the end was a shame, and some of the lads looked totally bemused when their effort was questioned. Certainly no lack of effort from where I was watching.
Joel Senior was my MOM, thought he was excellent
I watched on the stream so turned off after the end of the game. Unlike Tuesday night couldn't fault the graft of the majority of the players. So shame they got stick. But, thats due to some poor results lately and frustration showing. Our finishing was woeful and defending needs to be better, Mindful were playing full time ex league here with big money, so to push them close is creditable. Just need a little luck as well.
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Unlucky to lose that game as we dominated for large periods in the second half. Plenty of decent approach play but lacking a ruthless killer striker which has been the case quite a few times this season. The amount of times we worked the ball into good areas only to be heavily outnumbered by their defenders was frustrating. Don’t think we are too far away and let’s not forget we are going toe to toe with big ex league clubs here, not the dog and duck. Some of the grief Parky and the players took at the end was a shame, and some of the lads looked totally bemused when their effort was questioned. Certainly no lack of effort from where I was watching.
Joel Senior was my MOM, thought he was excellent
I turned off at the end of the stream so didn't hear any of the grief (if indeed it was audible). From the comfort of my armchair, I thought we equipped ourselves well, and the Notts commentators were not shy of praise for our performance. As another has already said, some of our fans need to have a reality check when they compare us to some of the opposition we are facing. Like it or not, in all but a handful of games, we are punching well above our weight in this league.
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i watched the feed and listened on rr,so switched off before the feed had fininshed,i missed and grief that was directed at the players and managerment team.Such a shame as we played really well.
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I can only deduce that the grief must come from those newer fans that have only ever seen Parky teams on an upward trajectory (I'd argue we're still on one of course)... or sections of the old fanbase that will simply never be happy.
We're certainly entitled as fans to have our opinions, but please forgive me if I think they're currently misplaced.
The fact we're upset by a 2-1 reverse away at Notts County says everything about how far we've come.
I'm sure we're not the only team in the league that wants a 20+ goals per season striker for Christmas. We might be a force to be reckoned with if we find one.
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Notts County certainly did their best to aid us during a second half in which they repeatedly gave the ball away.
Notwithstanding all of our possession though and the three decent chances that we fashioned (Moult's volley, Colclough's shot which grazed the post and Kosylo dragging a left-foot shot wide of the target when well-positioned), I still had the feeling that the home side were actually the more likelier to score again. Credit to Thompson for keeping tham at bay during that second half.
We did look extremely vulnerable down our left flank, where Hampson regularly seemed to be outnumbered. That's concerning for Boxing Day at Edgeley Park, especially if Southam-Hales is on song.
The streaming was pretty good and the commentators were fair.
Meanwhile, Radio Robins playing Panic by The Smiths during the half-time interval did seem to be rather a harsh observation on our current predicament!
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Played well in large parts but we are missing so many chances.
Kossy worked hard as a roaming no.9 and put them under pressure. Senior was MOTM with some top runs.
Looking weak at LB.
Poor sub bringing Dinanga on out wide. He was a headless chicken, should have been Peers in that game.
Anyone know what is up with Mooney now?
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Apparently, Andy White had a fantastic game in FCUM's win at Buxton yesterday. When can we have him back?
The main problem is the 3 centre forwards. For me, Peers is the best of them and the other two need shipping out asap with Peers used as an impact sub.
Presumably, Jackson and Mooney are being saved for the Christmas fixtures.
We are a very good team, with a strong manager with an attractive footballing ethos. Obviously, we can make it into the top half with a small tweak or two - will probably need to get lucky with a loan striker.
I didn't go yesterday. I wouldn't have had a go at the team myself, but I suppose, if people have paid to attend, they have the right to do so.
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Apparently, Andy White had a fantastic game in FCUM's win at Buxton yesterday. When can we have him back?
The main problem is the 3 centre forwards. For me, Peers is the best of them and the other two need shipping out asap with Peers used as an impact sub.
Presumably, Jackson and Mooney are being saved for the Christmas fixtures.
We are a very good team, with a strong manager with an attractive footballing ethos. Obviously, we can make it into the top half with a small tweak or two - will probably need to get lucky with a loan striker.
I didn't go yesterday. I wouldn't have had a go at the team myself, but I suppose, if people have paid to attend, they have the right to do so.
Agree with all of this.
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Last night felt like Phil throwing his weight to the strikers.
Showing he'd play without them. I'd have brought Peers as a winger.
We need a Reeves poacher, or to play with a Yussef style speed striker that can spearhead a front 3.
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Unlucky to lose that game as we dominated for large periods in the second half. Plenty of decent approach play but lacking a ruthless killer striker which has been the case quite a few times this season. The amount of times we worked the ball into good areas only to be heavily outnumbered by their defenders was frustrating. Don’t think we are too far away and let’s not forget we are going toe to toe with big ex league clubs here, not the dog and duck. Some of the grief Parky and the players took at the end was a shame, and some of the lads looked totally bemused when their effort was questioned. Certainly no lack of effort from where I was watching.
Joel Senior was my MOM, thought he was excellent
Joel senior is a credit to himself. Consistently our top Performer.
He'd have 2 or 3 assist a week with Reeves or Walshaw style striker.
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Apparently, Andy White had a fantastic game in FCUM's win at Buxton yesterday. When can we have him back?
The main problem is the 3 centre forwards. For me, Peers is the best of them and the other two need shipping out asap with Peers used as an impact sub.
Presumably, Jackson and Mooney are being saved for the Christmas fixtures.
We are a very good team, with a strong manager with an attractive footballing ethos. Obviously, we can make it into the top half with a small tweak or two - will probably need to get lucky with a loan striker.
I didn't go yesterday. I wouldn't have had a go at the team myself, but I suppose, if people have paid to attend, they have the right to do so.
I would have thought if Mooney is fit then surely he plays.
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Apparently, Andy White had a fantastic game in FCUM's win at Buxton yesterday. When can we have him back?
The main problem is the 3 centre forwards. For me, Peers is the best of them and the other two need shipping out asap with Peers used as an impact sub.
Presumably, Jackson and Mooney are being saved for the Christmas fixtures.
We are a very good team, with a strong manager with an attractive footballing ethos. Obviously, we can make it into the top half with a small tweak or two - will probably need to get lucky with a loan striker.
I didn't go yesterday. I wouldn't have had a go at the team myself, but I suppose, if people have paid to attend, they have the right to do so.
Agreed, good well-reasoned post.
I wonder if Phil plans to give the current squad until a certain gatepost (new year?) before making some drastic movements - I agree all striking options have had enough of an opportunity now and simply haven't taken them.
Kosylo isn't prolific enough to be a False 9, I'd much rather see him as a combative 10 with Hancock in front of him. Seems we're all mostly at a consensus of what the front four should be, we just very rarely get to see it.
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Apparently, Andy White had a fantastic game in FCUM's win at Buxton yesterday. When can we have him back?
The main problem is the 3 centre forwards. For me, Peers is the best of them and the other two need shipping out asap with Peers used as an impact sub.
Presumably, Jackson and Mooney are being saved for the Christmas fixtures.
We are a very good team, with a strong manager with an attractive footballing ethos. Obviously, we can make it into the top half with a small tweak or two - will probably need to get lucky with a loan striker.
I didn't go yesterday. I wouldn't have had a go at the team myself, but I suppose, if people have paid to attend, they have the right to do so.
Agreed, good well-reasoned post.
I wonder if Phil plans to give the current squad until a certain gatepost (new year?) before making some drastic movements - I agree all striking options have had enough of an opportunity now and simply haven't taken them.
Kosylo isn't prolific enough to be a False 9, I'd much rather see him as a combative 10 with Hancock in front of him. Seems we're all mostly at a consensus of what the front four should be, we just very rarely get to see it.
Football is a team game but I alway feel were sacraficing Kosylo in that role but that may be because of who plays 9. Mainly Kosylo will search for the ball which leaves nobody arriving on the penalty spot for pull back.
Based on last night I'd start Hancock up top with 2 of Mooney Colclough Kosylo with the other being 1st sub if available.
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One other thing that I think is worth a mention is that both Pringle and Mooney are very Left footed in as much as they only really use the right foot to stand on.. I feel that the opposition soon suss that out and force them on to their right side.
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I thought that Alty played well and easily matched County in what was in a very entertaining game. I am glad that I went and we deserved to make it to a penalty shootout. There was also a bad decision by the Referee not to give us a penalty close to the end of a game in which he seemed to give them everything and us completely jack.
I agree with other posts that mention that a good poacher could of had 3-4 goals from crosses across the box and from other chances that just went begging.
We are not far away from having a stonking good team and until we find the right formula I think that there is no cause for verbal crap to be directed at the management and players.
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I saw Notts County playing away against Mansfield the season they were relegated. Being a local derby I'd guess they had around 1500 in the away end.
Once things started to go against them a section of fans started booing much to the annoyance of some of their neighbours. Quite a big brawl ensued ending with the police ejecting at least 20 or 30 of them.
For a while it was more entertaining than the football.
I'm happy with the effort that is going in to our games. We need a bit of luck to break the run.
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Best away end in years, particularly in the first half. I hope it went some way towards reminding the players and management of the support they have.
I thought we played quite well and were really unlucky not to at least have a crack at a penalty shoot out. We edged good chunks of the game, without really having the sharp bite to make it all matter. I really liked the approach with three in midfield and I'd definitely like to see that again over these next three tough games. Still not completely sold on Porter but I think having Moult and Furman in there with him definitely helped, and it was his best game in an Alty shirt. He's obviously got a lot of technical quality.
Our momentum died with the introduction of Dinanga, unfortunately, although I'm not sure what bringing him on for a cameo on the wing was going to achieve.
Completely agree with posts praising Senior, we'll do well to keep him in January let alone next summer. Wonderful player. Pringle impressive again too. Thompson fantastic. That was a step back in the right direction.
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The away end, especially given the circumstances, was bouncing. A few new chants in the mix but one of the atmosphere where the chants kept rolling on (something I feel we lost with the lack of alcohol on terraces and Hulme chant retiring).
These players, or any that wear the Altrincham shirt, will get backed, but they have to match the terrace energy otherwise you get flat games like Southend.
New chants included:
Chester get battered, Macc Town they fold, Northwich are irrelevant, Altrincham score Goals, Altrincham score Goals.
And I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it
I li-li-like it, li-li-li
Here we go, Colclough and Kosy-looo
And I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it
I li-li-like it, li-li-li
Here we go, Colclough and Kosy-looo
He's dynamite when he is on the ball,
He can tackle, pass and he can score,
Our 24,
I don't know if he could do much more,
Seniorrrrr,
He's the boy that Altrincham adore
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The away end, especially given the circumstances, was bouncing. A few new chants in the mix but one of the atmosphere where the chants kept rolling on (something I feel we lost with the lack of alcohol on terraces and Hulme chant retiring).
These players, or any that wear the Altrincham shirt, will get backed, but they have to match the terrace energy otherwise you get flat games like Southend.
New chants included:
Chester get battered, Macc Town they fold, Northwich are irrelevant, Altrincham score Goals, Altrincham score Goals.
And I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it
I li-li-like it, li-li-li
Here we go, Colclough and Kosy-looo
And I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it
I li-li-like it, li-li-li
Here we go, Colclough and Kosy-looo
Seniooooor, he's the boy Altrincham adore.
Our twenty fouuurrr, I don't know if he can do much more.
He's dynamite when he is on the ball,
He can tackle, pass and he can score,
Our 24,
I don't know if he could do much more,
Seniorrrrr,
He's the boy that Altrincham adore
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Apparently, Andy White had a fantastic game in FCUM's win at Buxton yesterday. When can we have him back?
The main problem is the 3 centre forwards. For me, Peers is the best of them and the other two need shipping out asap with Peers used as an impact sub.
Presumably, Jackson and Mooney are being saved for the Christmas fixtures.
We are a very good team, with a strong manager with an attractive footballing ethos. Obviously, we can make it into the top half with a small tweak or two - will probably need to get lucky with a loan striker.
I didn't go yesterday. I wouldn't have had a go at the team myself, but I suppose, if people have paid to attend, they have the right to do so.
Agreed, good well-reasoned post.
I wonder if Phil plans to give the current squad until a certain gatepost (new year?) before making some drastic movements - I agree all striking options have had enough of an opportunity now and simply haven't taken them.
Kosylo isn't prolific enough to be a False 9, I'd much rather see him as a combative 10 with Hancock in front of him. Seems we're all mostly at a consensus of what the front four should be, we just very rarely get to see it.
Football is a team game but I alway feel were sacraficing Kosylo in that role but that may be because of who plays 9. Mainly Kosylo will search for the ball which leaves nobody arriving on the penalty spot for pull back.
Based on last night I'd start Hancock up top with 2 of Mooney Colclough Kosylo with the other being 1st sub if available.
I agree with you Hashtag (there's a first time for everything!)
Josh and Matty definitely bring different qualities to number 10, which is why I'd probably play them in tandem through the middle at false 9 and combative 10 (i.e. I'd play all four of them together when fit, why not).
We see what happens with settled XIs - look at West Ham this season - so I'd definitely like to go into the new year almost being sure of 10 of the starting 11, with maybe Jake's partner being the only position of contention.
I do think we miss having an old school winger like Brad Jackson available too, to stretch games and put it about a bit.
Do we have Joel Senior tied down beyond the end of the season?
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Do we have Joel Senior tied down beyond the end of the season?
I bloody hope so!! He must be attracting interest
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Do we have Joel Senior tied down beyond the end of the season?
I bloody hope so!! He must be attracting interest
It was announced on 1st July that he had signed a new deal: https://www.altrinchamfc.com/news/senior-moment-we-were-all-hoping-for-joel-signs-a-new-deal
It refers to 'a new one-year deal' so unless that was an extension on an existing contract, which I doubt, then we may be at risk of losing him on a free at the end of the season. Eek.
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Apparently, Andy White had a fantastic game in FCUM's win at Buxton yesterday. When can we have him back?
The main problem is the 3 centre forwards. For me, Peers is the best of them and the other two need shipping out asap with Peers used as an impact sub.
Presumably, Jackson and Mooney are being saved for the Christmas fixtures.
We are a very good team, with a strong manager with an attractive footballing ethos. Obviously, we can make it into the top half with a small tweak or two - will probably need to get lucky with a loan striker.
I didn't go yesterday. I wouldn't have had a go at the team myself, but I suppose, if people have paid to attend, they have the right to do so.
Agreed, good well-reasoned post.
I wonder if Phil plans to give the current squad until a certain gatepost (new year?) before making some drastic movements - I agree all striking options have had enough of an opportunity now and simply haven't taken them.
Kosylo isn't prolific enough to be a False 9, I'd much rather see him as a combative 10 with Hancock in front of him. Seems we're all mostly at a consensus of what the front four should be, we just very rarely get to see it.
Football is a team game but I alway feel were sacraficing Kosylo in that role but that may be because of who plays 9. Mainly Kosylo will search for the ball which leaves nobody arriving on the penalty spot for pull back.
Based on last night I'd start Hancock up top with 2 of Mooney Colclough Kosylo with the other being 1st sub if available.
I agree with you Hashtag (there's a first time for everything!)
Josh and Matty definitely bring different qualities to number 10, which is why I'd probably play them in tandem through the middle at false 9 and combative 10 (i.e. I'd play all four of them together when fit, why not).
We see what happens with settled XIs - look at West Ham this season - so I'd definitely like to go into the new year almost being sure of 10 of the starting 11, with maybe Jake's partner being the only position of contention.
I do think we miss having an old school winger like Brad Jackson available too, to stretch games and put it about a bit.
Do we have Joel Senior tied down beyond the end of the season?
Its a Christmas Miracle! :)
I agree on the Moult position, Furman or Pringle should be the only choice. Kirbys loss was a huge loss.
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The goals are now on Youtube.