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Title: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: robininstockport on December 16, 2019, 09:53:30 AM
Clearly going to give The Trophy our upmost.

                    Thompson

Densmore  Hannigan  Jones  White

         Moult           Williams

Wall.          Hancock.        Walker

                    Hulme

Alty 2-0 Farsley. Hulme  Wall

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Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: CRT Butty on December 16, 2019, 11:26:50 AM
3 1 to Alty.
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: oneedham on December 16, 2019, 12:24:57 PM
Anyone know what JJ's injury is? And how long?

Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: robininstockport on December 16, 2019, 07:43:15 PM
Anyone know what JJ's injury is? And how long?



Not heard a thing, but think he'll be back before Ceesay and Drench
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on December 16, 2019, 08:28:02 PM
Anyone know what JJ's injury is? And how long?



Not heard a thing, but think he'll be back before Ceesay and Drench





Pulled a hamstring, as outlined by Phil Parkinson in this interview:

http://altrincham.today/2019/12/14/columns/view-dugout-defeat-disappointing-must-get-back/ (http://altrincham.today/2019/12/14/columns/view-dugout-defeat-disappointing-must-get-back/)

The information is out there...!


 
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: robininstockport on December 16, 2019, 09:08:34 PM
I've read it and stand by my statement!
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on December 16, 2019, 10:17:46 PM
I've read it and stand by my statement!

How long is a piece of (ham)string ?
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: hsmith1 on December 17, 2019, 08:46:00 PM
bloody wheres dens
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: PukkaPieman on December 17, 2019, 10:37:10 PM
How did we not win that ?
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: Sarf London Alty on December 17, 2019, 10:47:28 PM
I was having after the Lord Mayors Show at BPA but we are rapidly becoming a soft centred mess.

It’s about time we stopped feeling sorry for ourselves and woke up, given the utterly woeful performance at Kiddy in September there is no better time for the players to do their thing on Saturday. Come on ALTY!
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: robininstockport on December 17, 2019, 11:00:30 PM
Don't think you get too many games where you dominate to that extent and don't win but when you take 1 out of 20 chances and a player boardering on dwarfism scores 2 free headers from corners you probably deserve to lose.

Aside from a couple of poor passes that put us in trouble thought Williams ran the game, White was also excellent. Got to feel sorry for Hulme who again worked his bollocks off but is so isolated it's a crime.

Most improved player from Saturday goes to Elliott Wynne who unrecognisable.

Season is done and dusted.
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on December 17, 2019, 11:13:29 PM
Strange definition of domination ! Apart from the first 15 minutes of the first half, I thought we were poor. Too many of our passes sideways or backwards, or to opponents. We lack the guile to deal with a well organised defence. But above all, we STILL fail to deal with far too many balls into our box. That was our undoing tonight.

Hulme can't do it all on his own up front, and I'm afraid Peers isn't the answer to that problem. We need another proven striker before our season totally implodes.
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: oneedham on December 17, 2019, 11:20:17 PM
All about missed chances.

We also lost our shape when both Walker and Peers went off.

I appreciate Peers can be frustrating at times but he drives us forward and can hold defenders off. As for Walker, he is quality.

Walker and JJ should be decent on the wings. Missed JJ carrying us up the field.

Williams was class, became sloppy in extra time but I am guessing his energy levels were zapped.

Hulme was MOTM for me. Great forward play but not much close support tonight.

White was very good. Hampson very average.

We always miss Jones and Hannigan together.

Still think we are 2 or 3 players away from promotion. If we get JJ back soon, find a centre mid to push Williams and another number 10/striker to push both Hancock and Hulme, plus by miracle see Ceesay before the end of the season then we can get into the playoffs.

Rubbish result but lets get a run going. If the grey lets us play ;-)
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: TheGolfRoadView on December 17, 2019, 11:29:30 PM
Didn't think we dominated the game, but we certainly had the majority of possession. Heard a couple of people say after the game that we had loads of chances. I didn't think we did, in the first half a great move produced a decent chance for William's, but it wasn't a bad save by Wynne. After that I didn't think we created a great deal in normal time, apart from the goal, I dont remember Wynne being particularly overworked. He produced two great saves in the first period of extra time but again apart from the indirect free kick and hitting the bar, didn't think we created too many more clear cut chances in ET.
Didn't go to the game on Saturday, but you could see why people who did, rated their central defensive partnership, and overall they looked a decent team who were happy to soak up pressure and then hit us on the break. Indeed we could have been at least 2 down at half time given the chances they created.
One final point, that banging of the advertising hoardings ain't half annoying and personally always thought you have to be a bit simple to even  do that, pity the stewards couldn't have asked them to stop. Sorry if that's being a bit of a Scrooge!
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: Hale Alty on December 18, 2019, 05:02:42 AM
Farsley reminded me of Stockport in our games last season - very organised in defence, very hard to break down, and only doing enough to win and little more. The goals we conceded were from poorly defended corners, and Wynne was by far the busier of the two keepers. Altrincham certainly had the chances to win but constantly bringing the ball inside just meant being faced with their two banks of four. It needed more guile. Why Lewis Walters is stuck at Trafford goodness only knows. We needed someone to get in behind and put decent crosses in. Williams for all his huff and puff doesn't create anything. We had far more drive when Simon Richman came on, and I'm always at a loss to know why he doesn't start.
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: alty.fc on December 18, 2019, 07:23:06 PM
Bloody grey kit
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: Is this it? on December 18, 2019, 08:16:30 PM
Feel the criticism levelled here against the team's performance last night is rather harsh.  We must have had over 70% possession, most of which was spent in the oppo's half and I left the ground trying to fathom how on earth we hadn't won.  While we didn't create as many chances as our possession might suggest, we played some pacey, attractive football that on another day would have been rewarded.  I think that JJ would have made a big difference as it would have freed Hulme to cause havoc in the the area around the box.  As it was, Hulme had to track back too often, leaving no direct threat in front of goal.  Very disappointed that in the in space of two weeks we have exited all three cup competitions, however, it is what it is and we have to focus again on the league, setting the playoffs as our target.  Onwards......
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on December 18, 2019, 08:31:22 PM
We have the lion's share of possession in most games we play, but we too often fail to make it count. Study the post match stats in the Premier and EFL, and just see how many winning teams have less ball than their opponents - and we have the same problem with teams who soak up our pressure and then take advantage of our inability to deal with set pieces.
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: cheshire cat on December 18, 2019, 08:34:00 PM
I thought last night that White had taken over where JJ left off. We did have lots of possession but precision was lacking at times and Farsley made sure their area was always packed and there were too many bodies in the way a lot of the time.

My concern now is that we will still have last night's game in our legs on Saturday.
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: andrewflynn on December 19, 2019, 08:36:50 AM
Feel the criticism levelled here against the team's performance last night is rather harsh.  We must have had over 70% possession, most of which was spent in the oppo's half and I left the ground trying to fathom how on earth we hadn't won.  While we didn't create as many chances as our possession might suggest, we played some pacey, attractive football that on another day would have been rewarded.  I think that JJ would have made a big difference as it would have freed Hulme to cause havoc in the the area around the box.  As it was, Hulme had to track back too often, leaving no direct threat in front of goal.  Very disappointed that in the in space of two weeks we have exited all three cup competitions, however, it is what it is and we have to focus again on the league, setting the playoffs as our target.  Onwards......

On the money for me, this.

We win that 4/5-1 on another evening. No way Hancock misses three chances like he did. Mullarkey's free header. Wall an inch away from a ball across the face of goal, and so on.

I know we love a moan at Alty but I've seen comments comparing the game to the Neil Young era. Absolutely absurd that is.
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: Hale Alty on December 19, 2019, 09:17:21 AM
Plus there were some very strange results around the Trophy that night. I'd rather take league games as an indicator of form, and until we get a consistent run of those we don't really know where this team is.
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on December 19, 2019, 09:32:04 AM
If league games are the indicator, our last such fixture was a 2-0 defeat by the bottom club. We all know how good this team is capable of being, but right now they're some way below that. Some of you need to take off your rose-tinted glasses.
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: robininstockport on December 19, 2019, 11:32:44 AM
Without Ceesay and Johnson we lack pace and creativity going forward couple this with an Achilles heel at defending corners its all uphill.

As decent as Wall and Walker are they wouldn't start before Johnson or Ceesay.
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: andrewflynn on December 19, 2019, 03:09:55 PM
If league games are the indicator, our last such fixture was a 2-0 defeat by the bottom club. We all know how good this team is capable of being, but right now they're some way below that. Some of you need to take off your rose-tinted glasses.

Last five league games:

Loss at 22nd
Win vs 9th
Win vs 13th
Draw at 1st
Draw at 10th

...
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on December 19, 2019, 06:46:58 PM
The old adage is "you're only as good as your last game".
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: andrewflynn on January 02, 2020, 11:13:49 AM
Is it still a rose-tinted outlook?
Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: HashtagAlty on January 02, 2020, 12:40:23 PM
Is it still a rose-tinted outlook?

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

10 from 12 points is nothing to be sniffed but we were in a relegation fight on 19th December having lost to bottom of the league and out of 3 cup games.

I always felt that we were going to climb the table at some point and then could talk about playoffs. now we can.

Title: Re: Farsley Match Thread 2
Post by: andrewflynn on January 02, 2020, 01:19:12 PM
Is it still a rose-tinted outlook?

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

10 from 12 points is nothing to be sniffed but we were in a relegation fight on 19th December having lost to bottom of the league and out of 3 cup games.

I always felt that we were going to climb the table at some point and then could talk about playoffs. now we can.


There's no hindsight about it? I've maintained that we were never in a relegation battle at all. The criticism after the Farsley replay was incredibly harsh but that's the Alty way. It's not rose-tinted to have a bit of faith in the quality of your players, especially with how many chances we created that night. It was encouraging and you could see that we were nearly there.

At Bradford we were a side coming out of a long, cup-dominated run of games. We were looking to regain the momentum that was always going to be lost when you haven't had a consistent run of league games.

We were ten unbeaten before Portsmouth including wins at York and a draw at Kings Lynn - and that run came off the back of a dreadful performance at Kidderminster. I can't say I'm massively surprised that we're now six unbeaten (90 mins) after the utterly dreadful performance at Bradford Park Avenue. Always going to be a momentum side under Parkinson, just really happy to see us (hopefully) building some again.