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Title: azzer way past it?
Post by: Leighton_Alty on February 10, 2007, 06:36:53 PM
is azzer past it?
Title: Re: azzer way past it?
Post by: Alty FC Idol on February 10, 2007, 06:58:06 PM
I dont think he didnt do alot wrong
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Post by: Nasha on February 10, 2007, 07:22:38 PM
Aspinall is possibly the the most frustrating Alty player.He is a decent defender (we always seem to be ok on the right and get raped by wingers on the left),but the number of overhit passes he makes in one match reallly grinds me.A perfect example of when it really annoys you was in the 1st half,where Little was in a brilliant position for a 1-on-1 situation,and Azza overhit it for a goal kick.
Title: Re: azzer way past it?
Post by: Alty Dave on February 10, 2007, 07:37:26 PM
Do people not think the defence needs an overhaul?

We canot surely single out one player today?
Title: Re: azzer way past it?
Post by: Nasha on February 10, 2007, 07:46:18 PM
Not a complete,but changes do need to be made.Personally I'd have Aspinall,Rose,Munroe,G Scott.Nothing against A Scott,maybe he just needs time to settle down,but presently I can't see him a better option as G Scott at LB,who would then be playing out of position.
Title: Re: azzer way past it?
Post by: Alty Dave on February 10, 2007, 07:50:52 PM
Just the thought I had on another post
Title: Re: azzer way past it?
Post by: baldrick on February 11, 2007, 10:06:43 AM
The team is just not good enough. The strikers don't score enough goals and the defence let too many in. A few new faces need to be brought in.
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Post by: Daycare Dan on February 11, 2007, 10:22:40 AM
The team is just not good enough. The strikers don't score enough goals and the defence let too many in. A few new faces need to be brought in.

Disagree, the team is good enough to stay in this league, we have shown that by beating a number of teams at ML, we are just going through a bad run at the moment. If out of the last 4 games we had a further 4 points would we have all this doom and gloom on here? Would people be calling for Azza's head on a plate if he'd scored against Southport and set another up for a draw yesterday? I doubt it.

A couple of new faces would be nice, and I'm sure GH did all he could during the transfer window, but as mentioned in another thread, with little cash to offer players we're going to have problems bringing people in.
Title: Re: azzer way past it?
Post by: CB on February 11, 2007, 10:44:00 AM
If out of the last 4 games we had a further 4 points would we have all this doom and gloom on here?

It's all ifs and ands. If we'd won this game, or won that one. There's no point in saying 'well we wouldn't be moaning if we'd got more points' when the fact is we haven't won in 4 or 5 so I think we are entitled to a moan.

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Would people be calling for Azza's head on a plate if he'd scored against Southport and set another up for a draw yesterday? I doubt it.

I haven't rated Aspinall at all this season and think people seem to accept his poor defending and woeful passing/crossing, just because he's scored a few penalties. Any number of the squad could be the penalty taker. I don't doubt his effort, but we seem to rely on him to much... but I've no idea why! Everytime I see him stand over the ball for a free kick I know that it's going to end up over the bar or out of the ground. Someone needs to step in and take the responsibility for free-kicks, crossing etc off him. We're so one dimensional it's ridiculous.

Title: Re: azzer way past it?
Post by: Daycare Dan on February 11, 2007, 10:58:34 AM
I didn't say people were not entitled to moan, my point was that for the sake of a bloody post things could be a lot brighter. I was gutted about yesterday, but I'm not in the dumps about it, we can still stay in this league, albeit most of our remaining games are away from ML.

Azza seams to get the ball so much as he's always available when the ball is at the back. Now Bush is back in the team hopefully he sill start picking it up off the back 4 and playing it forwards and take some of the pressure off Azza.

Re freekicks, maybe GH tells the team Azza is to take them, maybe nobody else wants them?
Title: Re: azzer way past it?
Post by: baldrick on February 11, 2007, 12:50:11 PM
Yes there is still a fair chance of staying in this league but that is because the bottom ten are a similar standard. A few improvements in key areas will guarantee safety. I think Joe can be a good striker if he gets the support he needs but a 20 goal a season man is needed urgently and the defence must be improved.
Title: Re: azzer way past it?
Post by: sotalty on February 11, 2007, 02:51:11 PM
I can't understand how aspinall has held down his place for so long, he is consistantly terrible. I don't like to single out or criticise individuals but after years of watching him can anyone tell me what he actually brings to the team? Especially as Gary Scott is as solid a right back as they come. Get Rose back in as well.
Title: Re: azzer way past it?
Post by: sotalty on February 11, 2007, 02:54:07 PM
Also, that reverse free kick we always take for Chalmers to head across goal dosn't work!!!
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Post by: galtyalty on February 11, 2007, 04:53:47 PM
azzer is just good at free kicks and is good at tackling!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: lukealty12 on February 11, 2007, 07:00:59 PM
yer in a way but i think with a few weeks rest hell hopefully come back stronger
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Post by: gazwarrington on February 11, 2007, 07:47:32 PM
for whats its worth I would like to see Gary Scott back in the side either as a right back OR left back. I think Aza gets a lot of unfair stick for his passing, he gets the ball a lot during the game and sometimes not when he has much time to do stuff with it, also I am sure he's only doing what he's told to do at Free kicks ?

I do however prefer Scotty as he attacks more and that can push teams back down the wings and give them something extra to think about, and create space for our winger infront of him.

I also don't think Andy Scott is as bad as what he's made out to be by people. I personally do not think he is a Conference National player (I said that about Munroe and look at him now though) but he is certainly not the worst player to ever wear on Alty shirt, as touted on here by a few and in the crowd. I don't think his positional play is that bad but what does worry me is his lack of pace and at this level you need to have a little pace as you are playing against full time wingers who will be fit and fast.
Title: Re: azzer way past it?
Post by: Timperley The Best on February 11, 2007, 08:37:50 PM
after robbie lawton ,karl munroe is poss next best player so far this season imo
Title: Re: azzer way past it?
Post by: Chris on February 11, 2007, 09:10:43 PM
azzer is not passed it he is just not on form at the moment.
Title: Re: azzer way past it?
Post by: bighairedmike on February 11, 2007, 09:53:27 PM
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what does worry me is his lack of pace and at this level you need to have a little pace as you are playing against full time wingers who will be fit and fast.

he is about the same as warren really. warren played very well at left back this season and i think that starting him on the bench on saturday was a mistake. wen warren plays left back he pushes up down the left as Gary Scott would down the right. could see andy scott trying to overlap on satdee but no one was passing to him when in space. what do you lot think?? peyton at left back or andy scott?
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Post by: No1 Ball Boy on February 11, 2007, 10:16:10 PM
MY BACK 4 WOULD BE   A SCOTT   MUNROE    BANDY   AZZER :)
Title: Re: azzer way past it?
Post by: Altysmiffy on February 11, 2007, 10:56:30 PM
How about a 3-5-2:

Stu
Rose, Band, Munroe,
Scott, Lawton, Bushell, Chalmers, Peyton
and any 2 from 6 up front

Worth a try?
Title: Re: azzer way past it?
Post by: bighairedmike on February 12, 2007, 08:18:17 AM
not bad but with our defensive form not being too good do you think GH will want to start with 3 at the back ???
Title: Re: azzer way past it?
Post by: Altysmiffy on February 12, 2007, 09:43:42 PM
3 at the back, but with the 2 wing backs in support.