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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Alty Dave on November 10, 2022, 10:12:32 AM
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Huge game after 2 losses. will Parky go with the same starting 11 or will we see some tweaking. Personally, would like to see Newby starting, Dinanga up top, he is out top scorer, and we need goals. Osborne should start. Jennings or Hulme to come on as necessary with Marriott. Toby, should be getting close to a return.
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Who you dropping for Osbourne?
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Who you dropping for Osbourne?
Won't happen but would like to see. 4-4-2
Gould
Mullarkey J Jones Cooper Baines
Newby Lundstram Osborne Colclough
Hulme Dinanga
Bench, Barrows, Jennings, CCC, Marriott
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Let’s just have a proper go at a team for once….
Byrne
Mullarky. Jones. Baines
Ludstrum. Marriot
Newby. CCC. Colclough
Jennings. Dinanga
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Starting Osbourne over Marriott is a sign of insanity
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I think Marriott should start too!
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Who you dropping for Osbourne?
Won't happen but would like to see. 4-4-2
Gould
Mullarkey J Jones Cooper Baines
Newby Lundstram Osborne Colclough
Hulme Dinanga
Bench, Barrows, Jennings, CCC, Marriott
With the return of Marriott, two proper wingers and two hard-working forwards that probably aren't good enough to do it on their own...
...there's probably a decent case for 442 at the moment with the personnel we have.
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As suggested by Dec on the soon-to-be-released KGR podcast, I'd bring Osborne back in and pack the midfield with the three of him, Lundstram and Marriott. Let Lundstram and Marriott do the work that was being asked of Osborne, and afford him the licence to go further forward as he's more accustomed to doing: "he's coming off the back of a couple of hugely successful seasons and will bring goals, a creativity and dynamism that we are all excited to watch" https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53247327
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As suggested by Dec on the soon-to-be-released KGR podcast, I'd bring Osborne back in and pack the midfield with the three of him, Lundstram and Marriott. Let Lundstram and Marriott do the work that was being asked of Osborne, and afford him the licence to go further forward as he's more accustomed to doing: "he's coming off the back of a couple of hugely successful seasons and will bring goals, a creativity and dynamism that we are all excited to watch" https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53247327
I'm sorry to disagree, but on his recent performances he'd be lucky to reach my bench. I don't have any stats, but I'd be amazed if his pass completion was 60% or better.
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Packing the midfield with Osbourne is a reason not to pack the midfield!
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Player fails in a set system, gets written off completely. It's the Alty way. Almost as Alty as getting giddy over a trialist with yellow boots.
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Player fails in a set system, gets written off completely. It's the Alty way. Almost as Alty as getting giddy over a trialist with yellow boots.
Yup.
Osborne isn’t a bad player. Bit of recency bias at play I think.
Deservedly dropped in recent weeks after poor performances but until then was a weekly
6-7/10 every game. Lundstram and Marriott must start for me, but I’d be tempted to put a third central midfielder in on Saturday.
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He's not a bad player, but drops a horrendous goal conceding bollock on a regular basis.
He's 3rd choice in the '2' in the guaranteed 4-2-3-1
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Player fails in a set system, gets written off completely. It's the Alty way. Almost as Alty as getting giddy over a trialist with yellow boots.
Yup.
Osborne isn’t a bad player. Bit of recency bias at play I think.
Deservedly dropped in recent weeks after poor performances but until then was a weekly
6-7/10 every game. Lundstram and Marriott must start for me, but I’d be tempted to put a third central midfielder in on Saturday.
100% agreed - reminds me of our last relegation season where I'm convinced that, despite his individual shortcomings, having O'Keefe in there alongside Moult and Richman in a much more solid 451 - rather than trying to accommodate James Lawrie in a 4411 - would have probably seen us safe.
Remarkable current similarities - Osborne is O'Keefe, CCC is Lawrie - no offence to CCC, but I do see the benefit in having another more orthodox midfielder in there.
Loose passes can be forgiven more easily at 10 - compared to, say for example, giving Paul Mullin the ball in our own half (Osborne actually did this last season of course).
The team setup is greater than the sum of its parts.
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Player fails in a set system, gets written off completely. It's the Alty way. Almost as Alty as getting giddy over a trialist with yellow boots.
Yup.
Osborne isn’t a bad player. Bit of recency bias at play I think.
Deservedly dropped in recent weeks after poor performances but until then was a weekly
6-7/10 every game. Lundstram and Marriott must start for me, but I’d be tempted to put a third central midfielder in on Saturday.
100% agreed - reminds me of our last relegation season where I'm convinced that, despite his individual shortcomings, having O'Keefe in there alongside Moult and Richman in a much more solid 451 - rather than trying to accommodate James Lawrie in a 4411 - would have probably seen us safe.
Remarkable current similarities - Osborne is O'Keefe, CCC is Lawrie - no offence to CCC, but I do see the benefit in having another more orthodox midfielder in there.
Loose passes can be forgiven more easily at 10 - compared to, say for example, giving Paul Mullin the ball in our own half (Osborne actually did this last season of course).
The team setup is greater than the sum of its parts.
You know what mate I half-typed out an O'Keefe analogy in my original post but couldn't make it work! You've done it justice, I'm with you on this and think it's a very similar situation.
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He's not a bad player, but drops a horrendous goal conceding bollock on a regular basis.
He's 3rd choice in the '2' in the guaranteed 4-2-3-1
Agree that he's third choice if we're playing 4-2-3-1.
I think his recent form may have been due, in part, to the amount of minutes he has played. Might have needed a rest.
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Barrows banned for 3 Games due to an incident in the Wealdstone game.
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Barrows banned for 3 Games due to an incident in the Wealdstone game.
Maybe lundstram at right back?
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Barrows banned for 3 Games due to an incident in the Wealdstone game.
Maybe lundstram at right back?
Possibly Jackson
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Byrne
Jackson Jones Baines E.Jones
Lundstram Marriott
Newby Con-Clarke Colclough
Hulme
If Con-Clarke injured then Newby no.10 and Kaja out right.
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Starting Osbourne over Marriott is a sign of insanity
Yep
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Barrows banned for 3 Games due to an incident in the Wealdstone game.
Maybe lundstram at right back?
We need Lundstram in the middle 100%. Was going to suggest starting Jackson over Barrows before the ban.
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Barrows banned for 3 Games due to an incident in the Wealdstone game.
Maybe lundstram at right back?
We need Lundstram in the middle 100%. Was going to suggest starting Jackson over Barrows before the ban.
Opportunity to dip into the loan market again?
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Barrows banned for 3 Games due to an incident in the Wealdstone game.
Of all the mistakes the ref made that’s the one that gets overturned. Normally happy to have stuff picked up that the officials missed but in this case it is rubbing salt in the wound!
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A message from a York City supporting friend of mine...
Big match today! Good time to be playing my lot as we are on the crest of a slump. Big lumbering striker who cannot run or score, two wingers who also do not score, a weedy midfield and defenders who give most of the goals away on set pieces. But we do have a half decent goalie (on loan). Would have attended of a 3pm kick off but going to watch on BT. Hope you do not enjoy it!!! 😁😁
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A message from a York City supporting friend of mine...
Big match today! Good time to be playing my lot as we are on the crest of a slump. Big lumbering striker who cannot run or score, two wingers who also do not score, a weedy midfield and defenders who give most of the goals away on set pieces. But we do have a half decent goalie (on loan). Would have attended of a 3pm kick off but going to watch on BT. Hope you do not enjoy it!!! 😁😁
Was he talking about them or us?
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That was pretty much my response ;D
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Sounds like Mullarkey is available.
Think he'll replace Barrows id imagine.
Is there any footage of the Barrows' 3 game ban incident?
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I suppose there is but its not considered to be a highlight
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One down, 15 minutes. Staying at home was a good choice.
Yet again a header from a corner. What do we practice in training all week ? It's happening with frightening regularity.
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A good win, decent performance and hopefully good enough to tempt a few more into the JDavidson and BT another visit
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Much better, Alty.
The first half was very much in keeping with recent form but it can only be an encouraging sign that we actually bothered to turn up in the second half - hopefully we'll put that hoodoo to bed.
In Newby at least we now have a different outlet, which is what we were crying out for.
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He's not a bad player, but drops a horrendous goal conceding bollock on a regular basis.
He's 3rd choice in the '2' in the guaranteed 4-2-3-1
Agree that he's third choice if we're playing 4-2-3-1.
I think his recent form may have been due, in part, to the amount of minutes he has played. Might have needed a rest.
It’s a slightly odd time to post this I guess but whilst Osbourne and Marriott was a good partnership last season, I’m happy to give Lundstram and Marriott a set of games to form a better one (given Osbourne’s lack of form and the fact that he and Lundstram haven’t really clicked).
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I think not conceding straight after half time for once was key. A better side would’ve put us away but that’s not our problem and we showed better mentality and urgency second half than we did v Wealdstone and Barnet.
A big win given that Maidstone and Yeovil won today.
Phew.
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Much better second half , would like to keep Newby if possible .Don't think Jennings is a number 9 as in hold the ball up and keep the centre backs occupied but he played his part in the second goal.
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Valuable 3 points that and did'nt look likely at HT. Lots of positives from the second half . Well done lads.
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That's the best side/squad we've got to put out imho. We need to stick with it.
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Much better second half , would like to keep Newby if possible .Don't think Jennings is a number 9 as in hold the ball up and keep the centre backs occupied but he played his part in the second goal.
Played a nice part in what should’ve been an equaliser just before half time
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Far from convinced with Byrne his distribution was awful tonight more than once kicked out of play,then spends his time flapping his arms about as if its not his fault.fantastic 2nd half tonight feared the worst after conceding early again,Ryan again MOM fantastic and a cool one on one finish for the winner onto a trough trip to Woking next week but hopefully the confidence levels should be slightly higher.
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Much better second half , would like to keep Newby if possible .Don't think Jennings is a number 9 as in hold the ball up and keep the centre backs occupied but he played his part in the second goal.
I thought Jennings played well. There isn’t anyone else at the club that can hold the ball up as well, OK Jordon is decent at it but Jennings has the size and strength. I think him Newby and Ryan worked really well tonight.
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Well done lads, much better. Great to have Toby back, we looked more solid at the back and full backs overlapped well. Eddy Jones did well for our first goal, found by Ryan Colclough and good cross for Elliot Newby who had half the York penalty area to himself, but still finished it very well. Newby and Connor Jennings look like decent additions with quality and experience and combined well to set Ryan up for the winner.
Still need to improve on defending set pieces again but 2 very well taken goals and the second half improvement was much more like a Parky side.
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Excellent second half, the energy and willingness to play for each other was a joy.
Jennings makes a big difference, bringing others into pay and being a hand full for the defence.
Toby looked commanding, CCC, Newby and off course Coco first class.
I must salute the fans, lots of singing and encouragement, the new breed taking on Ecky's mantle.
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Far from convinced with Byrne his distribution was awful tonight.
Agreed, and the way the players arranged themselves at goal kicks shows they fear it's going to get shanked.
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Considering his height he doesn’t seem to be able to be dominant when the crosses come in, he needs to dominate his 6 yard box more.. also, his kicking needs to be more measured
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Strange isn't it?
We push forward rather than perpetually going backwards and sideways, and, lo and behold, we score goals and win!!
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One down, 15 minutes. Staying at home was a good choice.
Yet again a header from a corner. What do we practice in training all week ? It's happening with frightening regularity.
Would have been ideal to turn up at half time. 😂😂
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One down, 15 minutes. Staying at home was a good choice.
Yet again a header from a corner. What do we practice in training all week ? It's happening with frightening regularity.
Would have been ideal to turn up at half time. 😂😂
I'd quite likely have gone home at half time 😂
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Much better second half. Tempo was spot on and counter attacking football.
Good to see the wide players come off the line and what great finishes. Full back setting up a goal.
Well done lads.
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A much needed win. After CCC fluffed that golden chance on HT I didn’t hold out much hope for the second half but we belatedly woke up, two well worked goals & very well taken when you think of some of our woeful finishing this season. You could clearly see last night the influence Newby & Jennings are already starting to have & they’ll only get fitter & better. We really need to look at our game management though, I thought another Torquay was on the cards. This is where Pringle when fit would be so valuable. Set pieces too, hearts in our mouths every time we defend one & we continue to look unlikely on attacking set pieces, I’m hoping the return of Toby will help a lot in both regards.
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One down, 15 minutes. Staying at home was a good choice.
Yet again a header from a corner. What do we practice in training all week ? It's happening with frightening regularity.
Would have been ideal to turn up at half time. 😂😂
Team didn't.
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My mom was Toby Mullarkey , what a game he had and should keep Barrows on the subs bench.
I thought the eleven on the pitch were outstanding with special mention to a wonderful cross from jones and a superb finish from Newby.
I thought we didn’t get going for the first twenty minutes and stood a yard off , but once the belief came and the work rate was upped we were a positive looking team all over the pitch and gave York a tough night to reflect on.
Onward to Woking and to give them something to think about rather than the pretty passes at Wrexham.
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It was noticeable that there was far less passing across the back four last night.
Byrne may have got it wrong a couple of times but during our relegation season we had a succession of goalies who could only kick it out of play. The guy is still young. He's on a learning curve.
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My mom was Toby Mullarkey
Wow! Didn't realise you were related. 😂😂
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A scientific miracle!!
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Just watched the highlights. We scored 2 very well goals(should have been 3).
Their goal is beyond soft and Byrne doesn't do very well in his 6 yrd box again
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They've sacked Askey.
https://yorkmix.com/york-city-manager-john-askey-sacked/
Didn't see that coming.
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Gone down like a lead balloon with York fans on Twitter. Clearly a falling out between Askey & the Chairman, assuming about money as it normally is. York could get sucked into the relegation more easily now.
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Seems like the York fans seem to think ex united and York player (and allegedly chairman's mate) Jonathan Greening is the unofficial favourite to replace him?
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As per earlier post re the response from York fans on Twitter, lots of requests from their fans asking for refunds to a fund set up only recently by the ycfc Supporters Trust, to help John Askey with funds to boost the playing squad. Guy Mowbray certainly not happy, asking for his donation back. Interesting to see where John Askey goes next, would be surprising if he's out of a job for long.
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Gone down like a lead balloon with York fans on Twitter. Clearly a falling out between Askey & the Chairman, assuming about money as it normally is. York could get sucked into the relegation more easily now.
Wouldn't be ideal for us to lose a Yorkshire side
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Glad you clarified, HT, I agree. Would be more preferable to lose some of the longer trips.
Having said that, I do fear for Oldham unless they get a manager who knows what's needed in this league and who they give quite a bit of lolly to spend.
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Seems like the York fans seem to think ex united and York player (and allegedly chairman's mate) Jonathan Greening is the unofficial favourite to replace him?
I see Mike Williamson is in the running - logical choice seeing as it's one of his more local clubs and he's done a decent job with Gateshead by all accounts.
As for Askey - well, I suppose he'd be our most obvious choice in the shorter term if, for whatever reason, we found ourselves in the market for a manager (God forbid that be the case for now).
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Have Macc properly replace Whittaker yet? That would seem to be an obvious job for Askey. And would you really want him at Altrincham?
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Have Macc properly replace Whittaker yet? That would seem to be an obvious job for Askey. And would you really want him at Altrincham?
Replaced him with the fella that had walked away from Warrington Rylands not long previous
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63652635 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63652635)