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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Jimmy on May 04, 2013, 08:57:33 PM
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Let down manager let down fans today im broken hearted hope players are
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If you look at various players Twitter Feeds I think you'll see that they are.
I know I wasn't there today but gutless seems a bit extreme. Other folk I'ce spoken to who were there said that we were poor, NOT intentionally, and that they were really really up for it, perhaps more than us? Gutless though....very unfair on a good bunch of lads who have done really well particularly during the second half of the season
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I was there today and it was a total Alty no show,such a shame we reserved ine of our worst performances of the season for such a big game.
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we had not had a bad performance for three months until today , just one of those days
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Agree that it was a poor performance our passing on a bumpy and bouncy pitch was not good enough.
Gutless is harsh and uncalled for.
The pass to densmore from the kick off should have been a pointer and have to say that their no.10 Louis was outstanding.
Just wondering if we could have taken one of our half chances, would they have panicked?
Outstanding turn out by our fans though, proud to be a robin!!!
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If you look at various players Twitter Feeds I think you'll see that they are.
I know I wasn't there today but gutless seems a bit extreme. Other folk I'ce spoken to who were there said that we were poor, NOT intentionally, and that they were really really up for it, perhaps more than us? Gutless though....very unfair on a good bunch of lads who have done really well particularly during the second half of the season
You missed out today as you would have been in your element. An awful referee with an attractive woman assistant waiving a flag ;D
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If you look at various players Twitter Feeds I think you'll see that they are.
I know I wasn't there today but gutless seems a bit extreme. Other folk I'ce spoken to who were there said that we were poor, NOT intentionally, and that they were really really up for it, perhaps more than us? Gutless though....very unfair on a good bunch of lads who have done really well particularly during the second half of the season
ATS eat your weetabix and f**k off home
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If you look at various players Twitter Feeds I think you'll see that they are.
I know I wasn't there today but gutless seems a bit extreme. Other folk I'ce spoken to who were there said that we were poor, NOT intentionally, and that they were really really up for it, perhaps more than us? Gutless though....very unfair on a good bunch of lads who have done really well particularly during the second half of the season
ATS eat your weetabix and f**k off home
Jamie's still feeling the love.
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FFS , just as i expected ,we lose and the knockers return , i know its a disappointment that we lost today , but i think we have had a good season overall , i want to say well done Lee and Tols , lets look forwards to the next season
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FFS , just as i expected ,we lose and the knockers return , i know its a disappointment that we lost today , but i think we have had a good season overall , i want to say well done Lee and Tols , lets look forwards to the next season
This.
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To be ho
I should hope not!
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FFS , just as i expected ,we lose and the knockers return , i know its a disappointment that we lost today , but i think we have had a good season overall , i want to say well done Lee and Tols , lets look forwards to the next season
100%. Going up next year as champions.
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To be honest i can understand both sides of this debate as yes we have played better football this season but also today the gap in standard showed, its just so frustrating as today they looked fitter and stronger to be honest and they recovered far better than our players after tuesday :-\
I'd love to thing we could go up as champions but realistically its gonna be a tough ask with brackley/halifax guiseley stockport barrow etc
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Really don't get why people think Stockport will challenge (if indeed they are in BSN, I think a reprieve is on the cards) and financially troubled barrow. Main rivals will be Telford, whoever loses next week in the final and guiseley. Maybe Boston too.
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If you look at various players Twitter Feeds I think you'll see that they are.
I know I wasn't there today but gutless seems a bit extreme. Other folk I'ce spoken to who were there said that we were poor, NOT intentionally, and that they were really really up for it, perhaps more than us? Gutless though....very unfair on a good bunch of lads who have done really well particularly during the second half of the season
ATS eat your weetabix and f**k off home
Cheers Jamie,
You obviously spent a long time compiling that response. Couldn't wait to slate us could you?
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If you look at various players Twitter Feeds I think you'll see that they are.
I know I wasn't there today but gutless seems a bit extreme. Other folk I'ce spoken to who were there said that we were poor, NOT intentionally, and that they were really really up for it, perhaps more than us? Gutless though....very unfair on a good bunch of lads who have done really well particularly during the second half of the season
You missed out today as you would have been in your element. An awful referee with an attractive woman assistant waiving a flag ;D
I would respectfully venture to suggest that she did more than WAVE a flag. I never like to see what some people define as an awful Referee either. Try playing without one eh?
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I sort of agree with everything that's been said, we certainly weren't at our best and they were a big, strong team who did a great job of stifling us.
However, I felt the real story today was a contrast between chances taken and chances missed. Put simply, they took theirs and we missed ours.
Despite not playing well we created four very good chances, all in the second half. Our first attack involved Reeve's shot being cleared off the line and Turley making a good catch (unsurprisingly Turley seemed to thrive on the sh*t being given to him). Then there was Havern's clear header from eight yards out that hit the bar. Brooke had a header at the back post that was straight at Turley and finally Reeves had a shot smothered by Turley right at the end. Creating four good chances away from home in the play-offs when you're playing poorly is no bad effort.
Brackley on the other hand created five or six good chances and scored three of them. The second looked like an own goal to me (Brackley could have scored a very similar own goal in the first leg but instead hit the post twice). Finally, Brackley's third seemed to be well hit but straight into the middle of the goal. I wonder if Stuart could have done better (similarly, from the highlights I thought that Stuart was caught a bit flat footed for Brackely's goal at Moss Lane)?
Brackley were the better team, but what really did for us today was our inability to take the chances we were offered.
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Good summary that Jimmy. To say that Altrincham players were gutless and didn't turn up is most unfair. Sometimes you just have to admit you got beaten by a team that did everything better than you on the day.
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Ian they were no better than they were on Tuesday
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If you look at various players Twitter Feeds I think you'll see that they are.
I know I wasn't there today but gutless seems a bit extreme. Other folk I'ce spoken to who were there said that we were poor, NOT intentionally, and that they were really really up for it, perhaps more than us? Gutless though....very unfair on a good bunch of lads who have done really well particularly during the second half of the season
It was the worst performance since xmas, woeful. I'm absolutely distraught. :'(
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Ian they were no better than they were on Tuesday
Of course they were better. they scored three goals. They didn't fade in the second half like they did at Moss Lane and they didn't allow Altrincham's players any space or time on the ball. You can only play as well as the other team lets you, and if Altrincham appeared to play badly it's because Brackley played well. The two recent games that people have used the "didn't turn up" comment were the defeat at Chester and this one. Altrincham need to turn up with better stronger players, and probably find some way of paying more money for them if they are going to get out of this division.
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If you look at various players Twitter Feeds I think you'll see that they are.
I know I wasn't there today but gutless seems a bit extreme. Other folk I'ce spoken to who were there said that we were poor, NOT intentionally, and that they were really really up for it, perhaps more than us? Gutless though....very unfair on a good bunch of lads who have done really well particularly during the second half of the season
You missed out today as you would have been in your element. An awful referee with an attractive woman assistant waiving a flag ;D
I would respectfully venture to suggest that she did more than WAVE a flag. I never like to see what some people define as an awful Referee either. Try playing without one eh?
I was not ctiticising the performance of the woman assistant referee, and personally I dont think she was bad at all yesterday and my other observation and personal opinion was that she was attractive - this was meant as a compliment to her. My opinion and that of most other Alty fans at the match, of the Ref's performanance was that he was very poor.
But as usual you come on this forum making a total prick of yourself not having bothered to attend our most important game of the season. You have a go at Alty fans at the game for commenting on what they saw and you defend the officials without witnessing the event yourself.
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Ian they were no better than they were on Tuesday
Of course they were better. they scored three goals. They didn't fade in the second half like they did at Moss Lane and they didn't allow Altrincham's players any space or time on the ball. You can only play as well as the other team lets you, and if Altrincham appeared to play badly it's because Brackley played well. The two recent games that people have used the "didn't turn up" comment were the defeat at Chester and this one. Altrincham need to turn up with better stronger players, and probably find some way of paying more money for them if they are going to get out of this division.
As much as I hate that last sentence Ian, I can't disagree with it .
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Ian they were no better than they were on Tuesday
Of course they were better. they scored three goals. They didn't fade in the second half like they did at Moss Lane and they didn't allow Altrincham's players any space or time on the ball. You can only play as well as the other team lets you, and if Altrincham appeared to play badly it's because Brackley played well. The two recent games that people have used the "didn't turn up" comment were the defeat at Chester and this one. Altrincham need to turn up with better stronger players, and probably find some way of paying more money for them if they are going to get out of this division.
fair enough we only appeared to play badly
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If you look at various players Twitter Feeds I think you'll see that they are.
I know I wasn't there today but gutless seems a bit extreme. Other folk I'ce spoken to who were there said that we were poor, NOT intentionally, and that they were really really up for it, perhaps more than us? Gutless though....very unfair on a good bunch of lads who have done really well particularly during the second half of the season
You missed out today as you would have been in your element. An awful referee with an attractive woman assistant waiving a flag ;D
I would respectfully venture to suggest that she did more than WAVE a flag. I never like to see what some people define as an awful Referee either. Try playing without one eh?
I was not ctiticising the performance of the woman assistant referee, and personally I dont think she was bad at all yesterday and my other observation and personal opinion was that she was attractive - this was meant as a compliment to her. My opinion and that of most other Alty fans at the match, of the Ref's performanance was that he was very poor.
But as usual you come on this forum making a total prick of yourself not having bothered to attend our most important game of the season. You have a go at Alty fans at the game for commenting on what they saw and you defend the officials without witnessing the event yourself.
Thank You Mr Redhill for demostrating that you still retain the ability to deliberately misinterpret what I post. Additionally you, once again, have to resort to personal abuse to (attempt to) make your point.
There are any number of people who don't travel for entirely valid reasons
Have a good Summer, chill out and redirect your energy away from petty squabbles toward unity in support
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Phil I'm sure you had a very good reason for not going however I fail to see how you can justify defending something you didn't see for the record I don't think the ref was that bad
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Phil I'm sure you had a very good reason for not going however I fail to see how you can justify defending something you didn't see for the record I don't think the ref was that bad
That is my exact point and it happens everytime an Alty fan (not just me) mentions the poor standard of officials.
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My view for what it's worth
Brackley were bigger, stronger and more physical than us and no Alty player (bar Havern) had a good day, so really we were just beaten by the better team on the day. Refs always seem to have their own interpretation of what is an acceptable amount of contact and unfortunately yesterdays was one of the let it go variety which played right into Brackleys hands, against sides that play like that teams like ours need protection and we didn't get it which made the task in hand even more difficult, the ref didn't remotely cost us the game though.
Before the game we felt that if it was goalless after 30 minutes the odds would swing our way, then bang 3 minutes and it never got better.
Anyway my point is these things happen, I'm not happy about it but sometimes you get beaten and that's a fact. Of course I would have preferred us to go down in a better fashion but again you need some luck and we didn't even have that yesterday - at the start of he second half you could see Brackley were nervous and if we had taken one of our half chances then who knows?
For all the talk of Brackleys ground - pathetic for this level - and the money spent on the team, I left feeling a bit sorry for the town. While I went to the game my partner wandered around and after said it was a lovely quiet sleepy place where nothing much happens. I would hazard a guess that most people who live there never signed up for the visit of Halifax next week never mind Luton et al if they get promoted, and now because of the money they are operating at a level too big for the town to handle.
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There's a lot of talk of Brackley's playing budget. How big is it? compared to ours for example and where is this money coming from?
If they're spending beyond their means, it's al going to come crashing down sooner or later surely.
Regards the game yesterday, gutted but beaten fair and square. Didn't think they were a better footballing team than us, just stronger and quicker.
I still think we're short of a couple of players to mount a title challenge next season but 80 points is a good haul, any improvement on that and we'll be up there.
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Gutless is really unfair.
If anything I think brackley learned more on Tuesday than we did and adjusted their tactics to neutralise alty's creative play. They simply did not allow us to get the ball wide and restricted any balls through to reeves and dunc' who both became isolated and were crowded out when they did manage to get the ball at their feet. Brackley did not press as hard when we had possession in our half (in contrast to Tuesday when they snapped away immediately), but dropped off and cut off the supply. We didn't have the guile to break them down and constantly gave away possession attempting long balls out wide which were often intercepted.
The early goal was a disaster for us and gave them belief. Tactically we could not cope and did not adjust. Not helped by the left side of our defence collectively having a 'mare, though I think doughty was restricted by injury from a very bad foul in the first minute, that went unpunished.
So gutless - no. I think the players gave everything they had on the day.
But I do think for this game Sinnott was out thought and couldn't do anything to change it.
Unfortunately the best team won on the day.
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There's a lot of talk of Brackley's playing budget. How big is it? compared to ours for example and where is this money coming from?
If they're spending beyond their means, it's al going to come crashing down sooner or later surely.
Regards the game yesterday, gutted but beaten fair and square. Didn't think they were a better footballing team than us, just stronger and quicker.
I still think we're short of a couple of players to mount a title challenge next season but 80 points is a good haul, any improvement on that and we'll be up there.
You only have to look at that squad containing as it does numerous Conference names who've done the Oxford/Stevenage/Kettering circuit and then look at the 350 average league home gate and the total lack of infastructure to know there is no romantic rags to riches story with Brackley. I'm not sure who but someone is massively pumping cash into the playing squad.
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Brackley are bankrolled by Forbes list billionaire Allen Leighton, there is no little village team comes good story, he pays to fund a team of seasoned professionals from Oxford,Rushden,Stevensge and Kettering. Its just colne dynamos, superb team, no Infastructure, the conference really should have blocked any further progress until they at least had the basics needed in place. Its a good job we don't have many idiots, they could have had a field day yesterday..
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Would have thought banbury would have been a better option to bankroll bigger town potentially much bigger club
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Brackley are bankrolled by Forbes list billionaire Allen Leighton, there is no little village team comes good story, he pays to fund a team of seasoned professionals from Oxford,Rushden,Stevensge and Kettering. Its just colne dynamos, superb team, no Infastructure, the conference really should have blocked any further progress until they at least had the basics needed in place. Its a good job we don't have many idiots, they could have had a field day yesterday..
Halifax on the other hand...
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If you look at various players Twitter Feeds I think you'll see that they are.
I know I wasn't there today but gutless seems a bit extreme. Other folk I'ce spoken to who were there said that we were poor, NOT intentionally, and that they were really really up for it, perhaps more than us? Gutless though....very unfair on a good bunch of lads who have done really well particularly during the second half of the season
ATS eat your weetabix and f**k off home
Cheers Jamie,
You obviously spent a long time compiling that response. Couldn't wait to slate us could you?
Not sure that I have slated anything ATS
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Apart from weetabix
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We were not gutless yesterday, we panicked when they scored early and couldn't get motoring back into it. Needed Boshell
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Phil I'm sure you had a very good reason for not going however I fail to see how you can justify defending something you didn't see for the record I don't think the ref was that bad
Please quote back to me where I defended the Referee.
My point (which appears to be (deliberately?) misinterpreted, is that I don't like to see a Referee who is, in the view of some, not up to the task in hand. That goes from the Level 9 Referees I mentor up to the guys who cock up in the World Cup Finals.
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The games I don't go to I don't comment on I said we were gutless which granted was harsh but how did you know it was harsh
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Brackley are bankrolled by Forbes list billionaire Allen Leighton, there is no little village team comes good story, he pays to fund a team of seasoned professionals from Oxford,Rushden,Stevensge and Kettering. Its just colne dynamos, superb team, no Infastructure, the conference really should have blocked any further progress until they at least had the basics needed in place. Its a good job we don't have many idiots, they could have had a field day yesterday..
ceo at asda and a leeds fan according to wikipidea if its the same bloke, brackley connection seems to be he went to school there
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Gutless is really unfair.
If anything I think brackley learned more on Tuesday than we did and adjusted their tactics to neutralise alty's creative play. They simply did not allow us to get the ball wide and restricted any balls through to reeves and dunc' who both became isolated and were crowded out when they did manage to get the ball at their feet. Brackley did not press as hard when we had possession in our half (in contrast to Tuesday when they snapped away immediately), but dropped off and cut off the supply. We didn't have the guile to break them down and constantly gave away possession attempting long balls out wide which were often intercepted.
The early goal was a disaster for us and gave them belief. Tactically we could not cope and did not adjust. Not helped by the left side of our defence collectively having a 'mare, though I think doughty was restricted by injury from a very bad foul in the first minute, that went unpunished.
So gutless - no. I think the players gave everything they had on the day.
But I do think for this game Sinnott was out thought and couldn't do anything to change it.
Unfortunately the best team won on the day.
I think this a very, very accurate and insightful summary.
The only good thing about yesterday's no show was that we were spared the heartbreak of a cruel last minute deflected winner or something. Although to be honest, if I think it was possible to do a complete no show but still lose narrowly with a last minute killer, then Altrincham FC would probably somehow f**king manage it...
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Not gutless, outplayed yes. Simon Richman did turn up, for me he was Alty MOTM for his huge effort. Luca played well too. Scott Leather will have learnt alot from it, didn't let us down, but was up against it with Jefferson Louis. Lawrie struggles when we're under pressure.. does well when we are in control, Buzz was clearly struggling but as usual gave his all. Rodgers gave it a go, but we suffered so much from conceding early. Good to see the lads recognising the fans at the end.. they must have been gutted as we were.
Alty 'til I die!
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I'm not going to do deep analysis, everyone knows what they saw yesterday and a lot has been said.. It was a collective bad day at the office on the worst day it could have come.
That combined with the timings of the goals that could not have been much worse. 3 mins, then we huff and puff, 25 mins and they see the half out.
Just as we are thinking all is not lost, it is on 55 mins.
I just feel so frustrated we didn't show what we can do although maybe they never really gave us that chance.
A sad day on the pitch but proud of the support we took. And no one will take Tuesday night away from me, meaningless now or not.
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Good call Ecky
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Not gutless, outplayed yes. Simon Richman did turn up, for me he was Alty MOTM for his huge effort. Luca played well too. Scott Leather will have learnt alot from it, didn't let us down, but was up against it with Jefferson Louis. Lawrie struggles when we're under pressure.. does well when we are in control, Buzz was clearly struggling but as usual gave his all. Rodgers gave it a go, but we suffered so much from conceding early. Good to see the lads recognising the fans at the end.. they must have been gutted as we were.
Alty 'til I die!
Outplayed by a team we beat and hit the woodwork 4 times against a few days earlier yes gutless harsh but no show and not good enough are not you are right that leather will learn very good young player Luca my man of match
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I'm not going to do deep analysis, everyone knows what they saw yesterday and a lot has been said.. It was a collective bad day at the office on the worst day it could have come.
That combined with the timings of the goals that could not have been much worse. 3 mins, then we huff and puff, 25 mins and they see the half out.
Just as we are thinking all is not lost, it is on 55 mins.
I just feel so frustrated we didn't show what we can do although maybe they never really gave us that chance.
A sad day on the pitch but proud of the support we took. And no one will take Tuesday night away from me, meaningless now or not.
Just sorry I can't give you several goodwins for that post Ecky!
Gutted but realistic.
I've been down many times over the last 48 years but it just makes the next success all the sweeter. I would never have thought, a few years after watching us getting battered 6-0 at Holly Park, Allerton that a few years later we'd win at Wembley then win 2 titles on the trot.
We may not do all that again any time soon, but we will be back!!!!!!
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Tuesday night, and Jake's goal in particular will never be meaningless. It was one of the greatest nights at Moss Lane for years and shows that we are back on the right track, this is the start of the next chapter and August cannot come soon enough.
Still get shivers down my spine thinking about it now, probably will in years to come.
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For me we just stand off the opposition too much. Chester punished us for it and so did Brackley.
The good news was we had plenty of time to realise we were going to lose.
I was really dreading it going to penalties!
How is it you can drink Alcohol while watching the match at Brackley?
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For me we just stand off the opposition too much. Chester punished us for it and so did Brackley.
The good news was we had plenty of time to realise we were going to lose.
I was really dreading it going to penalties!
How is it you can drink Alcohol while watching the match at Brackley?
Shouldnt of happened unless they didnt check all bags on entry to ground. My bag was checked obviously not all were or they were concealed elswhere.
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Yes bottles and cans shouldn't have made it in but you could buy a pint in the bar and drink it on the terrace, just like several other grounds in BSN - Oxford City, Bishops Stortford
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Yes bottles and cans shouldn't have made it in but you could buy a pint in the bar and drink it on the terrace, just like several other grounds in BSN - Oxford City, Bishops Stortford
Oxford Gold at Oxford City totally relieved the loss of two points (or was it pints ?) ;)